[Thor's Adept]

So, the mystical draught of Lemuria gives youth. Piers was out of Lemuria a long time. He didnt age in that time, or turn in an old man. Babi did when he ran out of the draught. So Piers is perhaps just as old as the other characters.
Also, Babi and Lunpa gained some Psynergy when they were in Lemuria. So the draught not only brings youth but makes an Adept of someone also. Just like the Psynergy Stones do, and the wind blowing from Airs Rock makes Adepts of the people of Garoh. But how do the people of Prox gain their Psynergy then?

[Lord Master Ivan]

1st question: Piers does not change his age, like Babi, when they run out of mystical draught he became old, in Piers case, he probably drank alot of that draught to stay alive that long.

2nd question: One comment, Lunpa did not get psynergy, only Babi did because he found that Cloak Ball and he was "taught" psynergy of how to use the Cloak Ball.

3rd question: It's like Vale and Contigo, their ancestors was an adept so, they kept spreading their population around.

[Teblor Tribe]

Piers didn't age that much he only aged like a normal man. It just wasn't superslow. Bibi was and old man because he was already old the drougt just slowed the aging prosese

[MysticWarrior]

Let's do some research.

In Lemuria, near the springs, an old man says he doesn't know his age, and he lost count after 200. So it is well over 200 years old. However, he is a very very old man. Piers on the other hand, looks "roughly the same age as Sheba", therefore the opposite of very old, very young. Also, he still knows his age, since he was about to answer Sheba before he found out about the conspiracy. Therefore, he must be under 200. Judging by this and the fact that he's young, I say around 100-110 years old. But that's all based on theory.

[Mallick]

WOW!!You are very wise when it comes to this stuff Mystic Warrior!!!But I don't think Piers looks like he is 14,He looks about 28 not old,but not young either

[Valistrix]

Yeah kinda but also a funny part is when Piers asks Felix to help him when jenna and sheba are bugging him about his age and all Felix says "..." the first thing in the game he says

[Mallick]

yeah.... WAIT!!!!He says "..." when you first see him on Idijema,so it is the second thing he "said"

[Valistrix]

Oh yeah and the next thing he said is why at the shaman village ubt at the end iof the game he starts having a conversation with everybody

[Mallick]

yeah,You and I seem to take a lot of topics off topic together don't we?lol, well I guess I should go on-topic.I don't think Piers actually IS that old

[Valistrix]

as I think someone said he looks really like a young adult but if I had to say I'd say he's in his 20's-30's

[Mallick]

Yeah, I say about that age too.....mainly late 20's-mid 30's.......but we could all be wrong

[Tachyon360]

Lord Master Ivan, on Aug 26 2004, 08:20 AM, said:

1st question: Piers does not change his age, like Babi, when they run out of mystical draught he became old, in Piers case, he probably drank alot of that draught to stay alive that long.

2nd question: One comment, Lunpa did not get psynergy, only Babi did because he found that Cloak Ball and he was "taught" psynergy of how to use the Cloak Ball.

3rd question: It's like Vale and Contigo, their ancestors was an adept so, they kept spreading their population around.

1. Babi died when he ran out of draught. So why didn't Piers age rapidly? Babi was old to begin with and the draught only slowed the aging process. Piers was still young and healthy, so even if he'd start to age at a regular rate, he'd still be rather young and healthy after the quest.

Piers also had constant access to the springs, whereas Babi needed to ration the draught, which probably reduced its effectiveness. It's also worth mentioning that Lemurians didn't make any more draught after Babi stole their last bit.

2. I don't think we ever learned whether or not Lunpa could use Psynergy. He likely did learn it. Furthermore, Babi wasn't taught how to use the cloak ball. He was taught psynergy. It was the psynergy he learned that let him use it. I don't see the point you're trying to make with that statement.

3. WTF are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense.


Going on to the original post...
The draught does not grant Psynergy - it just slows aging, so that Lemurians could last long away from Lemuria. The people of Garoh, Vale, and Izumo get their abilites from psynergy stones. The people of the Mars and Mercury clans apparently get their psynergy from the lighthouses they were put in charge of defending. Psynergy flows freely in Lemuria and that ancient city that flew up (I can't seem to remember its name at the moment), so just being there and learning how to use psynergy would suffice. As for Contigo, they likely get their power from either the Jupiter Lighthouse or from the remnants of that ancient city's psynergy.

[Mallick]

The city you are talking about is Anemos (the one in the sky) but.....
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Lord master Ivan@August 26th 2004, on 8:20am, said:

3rd question: It's like Vale and Contigo, their ancestors was an adept so, they kept spreading their population around.

its like if both my parents and granparents had cancer,then I would have an increased chance of cancer,therefor LMI is saying that they were adepts from thier ancestors

OI!!Long post!!

[Linear]

;) guessing is a good thing. i have no idea how old Piers is. and if Vale and Contigo are ancestors, then Lemuria should be water...and...hmm...what's fire? O.O Hmm...since i have no idea what the ancestor of Fire is, I'll just remain quiet on that.

And I dont know how old Piers is. O_O;; But I just like to say he's 18.

[Teblor Tribe]

Vale is Earth and Fire that's where the adepts in the game come from. Isaac, Felix, Jenna, Garet

[ForteGX]

I believe that Piers is possibly older than Kraden.

[Teblor Tribe]

Wouldn't daubt it After all the people that you talk to when you first try to get into lumireia are older then Kraden

[Alex]

Lemurians live long. It says so in GS1. Piers did not look very old at all. However, looks can be deceiving. Piers looks as though he is somewhere in his twenties, right? However, as a Lemurian that has long life, he could be in his forties even! I think he's in his fifties or somewhere around there, considering thgta the old man in Lemuria that MW mentioned looks as though he is about in his nineties for a normal man's age, Piers must be older than his twenties.

[Ultimate Felix 22]

The two Lemurians you meet at the entrance who are older than Kraden, look younger than Piers, so therefore Piers is older than Kraden. It's THAT simple

[ForteGX]

How can you tell that they look younger than Piers?

They have no facial sprites.

[Teblor Tribe]

I think there the same age as Piers. And the kids in lumeria say that in 30 years they will be adults

[Kikuichimonji]

a bit off the topic but someone mentioned about Lunpa using psynergy, coz isn't Lemuria the only place where alchemy is unleashed or summink, so even ordinary can wield it...

go back to the topic, piers looks early 20s but is probably 70

[Teblor Tribe]

Around there is my thinking but to me he looks like he is Felix's age

[Arkarian]

I'd have to say 80 years old at the least, simply because that old man in Lemuria says that he stopped COUNTING his age at 200 he never said he was only 300, for you to forget simply how old you are I'd imagine is extremely difficult. For all we know that old man might be 500-800 maybe even a thousand years old. The point is that could make piers somewhere in the region of 300 and still looking young and healthy. I mean look at babi he was a very old man when he started taking the drought. and it kept him alive for 100 years. when perhaps he should have died in 5-10 years.

[Sea of Time]

Prox had psynergy? I can see what you're saying though. Mars Lighthouse???

[Lind]

We're never told ingame at the rate someone ages if the drink the draught in Lemuria. For all we know, one year for Piers could be ten years for the rest of the group! Since to me he appears to be in his late teens (as far as looks go), he might be 170 years old. That's really just an example.

In Lemuria, he is still a teenager, but sometimes he remarks about the group being children or still young (specifically yelling at the Wise One about Jenna fighting her parents. "How do you think a child feels after striking down her parents," or something.)


On a differrent note:
I thought Prox was the great Fire city. Over time, it just deterioated to the village it is today. Anemos was the Wind city (it was torn from the ground and now floats in the sky as the moon). Lemuria was the Water city (it's deteriorated too and has walled itself off from the rest of the world). I'm confused about the earth city, however, becuase the one city near the Venus Lighthouse was Lalivero. Vale is the city of Sol Sanctum.

[Ravenblade]

yeah i agree with the city alignments totally...although lalivero does seem a little less obvious then the others ones...maybe the towns near the elemental rocks such as Gaia rock (cant remember the name of the town) could be seen as lesser forms of the same. As for Piers' age your guess is as good as mine...but judging by the reasoning of both Lind and Arkarian i think both guesses sound quite justified.

[Roka_Shotar]

I think it said that Piers left when the title wave hit Leumeria. So he has only been ouit a while.

I think that they learned how to use psynergy, but they did not gain it. The Lumerians taught it.

The wind from Airs Rock blew fragments and little particles of Psynergy Stones

I think that there were five elemental hotspots back then. There was Leumeria (water), Prox (fire), Anemose (wind), Vale (Sol Sanctum), and the Venus Lighthouse. Since the seals were placed around these cities, I think their inhapidants (sp?) gain some of the elemental powers. The town based on earth, however, has perished. Since Wayward is shrinking and starving, maybe the civilization connected to the earth itself has perished as well. Maybe Lemuria was origionally by Imil, but it drifted off as Wayward began to change. Since it was protected, but Imil was not, it still had its main civilization. Imil, however, changed a great deal into the now guardian of the Mercury Lighthouse.

Vale is a unique case. Since it is the guardian of Sol Sanctum, or the area where the Elements all meet, it produces different adepts. After all, Jenna and Garet are Fire, while Issac was Earth.

Well, do you think I am right?

[Sea of Time]

That sounds like an idea. Wow, there are a lot of mysteries in this game aren't there.

[Lind]

I agree with Roka. I never thought of it that way, the land being eroded away, so the city of earth perished completely... It makes sense. Like Lemuria being hidden by fog (the water is evaporating away). Prox is waaay up north (extremely cold place). Anemos is flying away (maybe a storm sent it into orbit?). Vale was completely destroyed to nothing.

It seems like during the lighting and extinguishing of the lighthouses, the psyenergy went wild and wreched(sp?) havoc at whatever cities were near it.


I need to write all this down... -_-