[Eugine]

Well, it has come to everyone mind that the Forum is just rapidly being disliked.

So this is the topic to post what you hate about Golden Sun Syndicate Forums, what needs changing etc.

Here's my thoughts.

1. I hate the newbish topics people make, usually topics now are just newer versions of old topics.

2. I hate the SPAM Forum now, I used to like it but now it has just been totally useless, atleast when posting SPAM post sensibe SPAM not no repeated SPAM always, every SPAM is now some misleading topic then the creator just post some nonsence.

3. I prefered the Forum when there were Fewer members, I'm not saying the new members aren't nice, but before I actually used to enjoy posting now, it's less fun.

[Max]

I just thought I'd mention that I have allowed Eugine to post this topic under the condition that no flaming occurs and that only constructive criticism is given. This topic will be closed at the first sign of flaming or other disruptive, inappropriate behavior.

[Shikamaru]

LOL- thanks for clarifying that Max, I was about to question whether this topic was permitted or not.

One thing I hate is when people take a very negative attitude to new members instead of trying to help them at all. I know that n00bs irritate us all, but sometimes you have to tolerate the n00bness and go on. Note that I'm not talking about n00bs that keep on spamming after being warned by authority- those n00bs should be banned and sent off to some random wannabe invisionfree GS forums ASAP.

Item Two of the hateness: When I post and people can't tell that I'm kidding.

Shikamaru

[Andross]

On item two: It's the Internet. No one can figure out if you're kidding or not that easily. There isn't a magical tone of voice thing that transmits the way you are speaking. If you're kidding, say j/k, use a wink smilie, or plain say you're kidding.

Now, if you mean people can't figure it out after that...yeah, that's pretty sad.
Agreed on #1 as well. There's newbs and then there's n00bs. The prior is the member that turns into a well liked person. The latter is a spammer, who's hated and is on the chopping block from day one. People need to figure out there's a difference.

[Mallick]

I hate how people (yes I did read what Andross said) Mix up newbs and n00bs,it is offensive to the newbs!

[Amon]

Eugine, on Aug 30 2004, 08:58 PM, said:

Well, it has come to everyone mind that the Forum is just rapidly being disliked.

So this is the topic to post what you hate about Golden Sun Syndicate Forums, what needs changing etc.

Here's my thoughts.

1. I hate the newbish topics people make, usually topics now are just newer versions of old topics.

2. I hate the SPAM Forum now, I used to like it but now it has just been totally useless, atleast when posting SPAM post sensibe SPAM not no repeated SPAM always, every SPAM is now some misleading topic then the creator just post some nonsence.

3. I prefered the Forum when there were Fewer members, I'm not saying the new members aren't nice, but before I actually used to enjoy posting now, it's less fun.

I admit I have probably taken advantage of the spam forum WAY too much. But honestly I really found some of the senior members to be downright annoying. Maybe it's because they've had to deal with alot of newbies, or maybe its because they're under alot of pressure. Whatever the case, I feel that gssf is having trouble getting along.

[Shikamaru]

Andross, on Aug 30 2004, 10:18 PM, said:

On item two: It's the Internet. No one can figure out if you're kidding or not that easily. There isn't a magical tone of voice thing that transmits the way you are speaking. If you're kidding, say j/k, use a wink smilie, or plain say you're kidding.

I was mainly refering to when I use the ' :rolleyes: ' emote and people take me seriously. I agree with your points. :blink:

Shikamaru

[Mallick]

Amon, on Aug 30 2004, 11:06 PM, said:

I really found some of the senior members to be downright annoying.

You don't hate me do you? :rolleyes: :blink:
-I hate how some people fight constantley
-I also hate when people PM you just t be mean

[Luna]

...

-I just dislike it when some people here can't just ignore mean stuff or "n00b"-ish stuff or just stuff that plain annoys them o.o;

-And I really hate it when they fight for the dumbest things...

[Mallick]

Were you talking about where I said

Myself ealier today said:

When people PM you just to be mean!

? Because that happens alot,and it really bothers me

[Luna]

Nah, I was talking in General o.o;

And...I still wont understand why in the world will someone PM someone else just to tell them something like that... It's a waste of time and has nothing productive..

[Luna]

...I'm not sure of what you mean with safe...

@.@; And, everything will be just fine.. you just have to get to know the place.. but that is off-topic. Read the Rules and you'll be fine n.n;; (at least I think so)

[Elliott]

~~Spam forum: Used to be good for a laugh, nows there's too many topics like this:
Title: "Hey, you gotta look here!"
and then when you look, the user just says, ha ha fooled you!
Very lame...
I did it once, about 3 months ago, now there are too man.y And all the n00bs hang out there, which means there is no worthy conversation. Only spam topics I bother to go to are "check this out!" (made by me), and the advertising topic.

~~n00bs: NOT NEWBS!!! They are 2 VERY differeent things, if you don't know the difference, you a n00b, lol. n00bs, as they make stupid and duplicate topics, spam, sometimes even flame, take everything either too serious, or nowhere serious enough. Gets very frustrating.

~~GS Boards: I never go to them anymore, as I have no interest in GS anymore. Not really a hate, but I just don't like them. Can't wait for IPB 2.0 becuase you can hide forums you don't like. (apparantly).

~~How big the forums is: It was the best when there was about 5000 posts, about 70 members (10 or 15 active regulars). It was less busy, more fun, but still serious topics. And there we no n00bs in site. Paradise.

~~Izar

Thats about it reall, apart from that it's ok.

[Kikuichimonji]

I have to admit that when ppl write up similar topics and stuff it is annoyin, use the search option bfore you do that okay?!

[Elliott]

Also: People who frequently mispel multiple words in one posts, that gets annoying.

[Kikuichimonji]

Were you implying that to me??? :rolleyes: If it was, then I'm sorry :blink:

Oh yeah, just thought of 2 more dislikes, multiple posts (not just double posts), and really long sigs or huge pictures, all you have to do is crop them?!

[Elliott]

No need for aplogies, just gets annoying when people constantly mispel simple words, but we all do it. Just annoying when they do it so much, but, I'm rambling now...

[Kikuichimonji]

Don't matter, well I haven't been that long on the Gss forums coz I'm a Newb but I'm already finding some topics which are quite boring/useless.

[Elliott]

Whoa, for a while there, I thought you were "bearerofKikuichimonji" (another user), anyway, yeah we get a lot of new users here, but it's good most of the older ones stayed. (except Danska, yo spirit hao, DL_Shadow etc.).

[Dullahan]

i hate stupid topics like this that just complain the site.

[Eugine]

Dullahan, the whole point of this topic is so that the members will try to fix it, not complain about fixing the problems.

[Dullahan]

they can fix it by just having one big moan topic where people can go on and on i've seen plenty of topics that just complain about something.

[ForteGX]

It's clear that most of the n00bs (not newbs) don't read the rules. So, maybe, you could make adjustments so that the Rules page is the first thing to appear on their monitor after they've validated their account.

Apparently they won't/can't read it on their own.

But that's really more of a suggestion than a complaint. My apologies.

[kate]

okay don't hurt me, but shouldn't this go in the "suggestions for the forum" cuz i mean, it's constructive criticism so the ppls can try and fix it, so it's basically suggesting stuff for the forum...or i could be crazy

[Someone Else]

Dullahan, on Aug 31 2004, 05:32 AM, said:

i hate stupid topics like this that just complain the site.

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It's clear that most of the n00bs (not newbs) don't read the rules. So, maybe, you could make adjustments so that the Rules page is the first thing to appear on their monitor after they've validated their account.

Apparently they won't/can't read it on their own.

But that's really more of a suggestion than a complaint. My apologies.

These are good ones, and I'd also like it if people would just stop complaining, we've heard it before, we know how you feel, so just stop. (even though I'm complaining right now too O o)

[Kikuichimonji]

kate, on Aug 31 2004, 01:15 PM, said:

okay don't hurt me, but shouldn't this go in the "suggestions for the forum" cuz i mean, it's constructive criticism so the ppls can try and fix it, so it's basically suggesting stuff for the forum...or i could be crazy

Ooo good point kate, Wind Dude it was just something I noticed but it probably due to the decline of the community or whatever. Not only that, it is also a chance for newbies such as myself to see what we should or should not do and then otherwise branded as a nOOb. Thats why I went on it, to check it out.

[Silo STATIC]

This is getting stupid ... it'll only raise the floor in flaming.

*report*

[Nick Presta]

Guys, this topic is redundant.

Everyone just says they hate the whole n00b/newb mix up, how n00bs/newbs are treated, etc.

If you have real complaints to make that regard something a staff member can change, PM one.

This is just a topic regarding behavior of the forums, and Sheba already has one pinned.

[Topic Closed]

[Izar]

Max said this was to stay up, and they got a little off topic, so, I think it should be permitted to stay up... Of course they said they hate the "n00b" thing, but uh yeah...

[Topic Opened]

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~~Spam forum: Used to be good for a laugh, nows there's too many topics like this:
Title: "Hey, you gotta look here!"
and then when you look, the user just says, ha ha fooled you!
Very lame...

If I recall correctly, you started this trend...

Anyways, I don't really have a complaint, exept the member relations, that and the skin is getting a little old, but Max is working on more, so... I guess no real complaints.

[Eugine]

Nick, Sheba topic is locked, Sheba topic don't mention the SPAM Forum trend, Sheba topic is only about the behavior of the members, not about the Forums in general.

[Andross]

Agatio, on Aug 31 2004, 11:15 AM, said:

~~n00bs: NOT NEWBS!!! They are 2 VERY differeent things, if you don't know the difference, you a n00b, lol. n00bs, as they make stupid and duplicate topics, spam, sometimes even flame, take everything either too serious, or nowhere serious enough. Gets very frustrating.

......


~~Izar

Agaito, you were one of the people who called a newb a n00b.
And would you STFU about Izar now? If you hate him, fine, but the complaint you always seem to have is how he's always warning you or something. How about trying not to state stuff like that? Then he won't actually do anything, and you won't have to interact. He isn't the one who always starts things too ya know.

[Lightning Star]

i hate all the hating (wait does that make sense?) :)

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hate the SPAM Forum now, I used to like it but now it has just been totally useless, atleast when posting SPAM post sensibe SPAM not no repeated SPAM always, every SPAM is now some misleading topic then the creator just post some nonsence.

*gasp* but spammin is FUN! geeze, people need to loosen up! JK

[kate]

yah, after all, that's why it's called the spam section. what do you expect in there??? intelligent convos about the ways of the world??? not gonna happen...tho some things in there are getting old...fast.

[Linear]

:mellow: Yeah, I suppose...the spam section is meant for spamming...=\ like...talking about things...well...yeah, i guess. :) I guess your right about it getting old really fast though.

[kate]

well, not everything, just those deceiving topics. like, at least attempt to have a purpose so that we can then horribly warp it :)

[Linear]

Ah...good point. Like that one with the Asians...gah! That creaped me out...seriously...! >_<;;

[Elliott]

Andross, on Sep 1 2004, 12:48 PM, said:

And would you STFU about Izar now?

Yes, put quote simply, I'm thoroughly sick of it myself. I'll never do it again. Sounds lame and unexpected, but I'll never do it again, and If I do, I give the mods expressed permission to suspend me :) :mellow: :P . That should shut me up!
Moving on...

[Eugine]

See, this topic actually helped! *congratulates himself* One problem down, 100 more to go!

[Echo_djinn]

You people really like to voice out yuor thoughts...

Dislike: its not a big problem but when people post right at the same time as you and they answer the queston before you that gets annoying.
Then you got to change or edit your post but its not a big problem and its not really GSSF fault.

[Kikuichimonji]

lightningstar, on Aug 31 2004, 10:52 PM, said:

i hate all the hating (wait does that make sense?) :)

sure it does, and I agree, forums are meant to be for ppl who want to interact nicely and have some common ground, this for instance Golden Sun series...

[Amon]

Wow. I didn't know so many people hated the spam forum so much...the truth comes out! j/k

And yea there's way too much hating on this board.

[Echo_djinn]

Amon, on Sep 1 2004, 03:07 PM, said:

And yea there's way too much hating on this board.

That is something you can't really stop. Not everyone will like this person or that person and people will fight beacuse thats the first thing that comes up in there minds. Its human nature but you can always dim it down and control yourself not to always speak out when you find something is wrong or you get angry at something or someone. This has been a Echo_djinn statement.

[Amon]

Echo_djinn, on Sep 1 2004, 03:14 PM, said:

That is something you can't really stop. Not everyone will like this person or that person and people will fight beacuse thats the first thing that comes up in there minds. Its human nature but you can always dim it down and control yourself not to always speak out when you find something is wrong or you get angry at something or someone. This has been a Echo_djinn statement.

Yeah, I guess. But c'mon. I mean take a second to look at the title of this topic. Very negative if you ask me. Then again, you didn't. Oh well.

Let's see. I hate...

Members who join and then never post.
Members with negative attitude and comments.
Members that flame other members when they're upset.

[Kikuichimonji]

I don't hate the spam forums, it's the only place where you can double posts and not get killed for doing, but it does lose its er... quality after a while, long live spam!

[Kikuichimonji]

Amon, on Sep 1 2004, 03:19 PM, said:

Members that flame other members when they're upset.

No Amon, when other members just flame for the hell of it... hang on you meant, I get it now :) ;;

[Amon]

Kikuichimonji, on Sep 1 2004, 03:24 PM, said:

No Amon, when other members just flame for the hell of it... hang on you meant, I get it now :) ;;

Uh...Kikuichimonji...I'm not a mod or anything but u know u double posted.

I hate the 30 second flood control system. It bugs me.

[Kikuichimonji]

I did??? oh that was an accident...(Pls don't kill me possible wndering mods), 30 second flood control? yeah thats annoying but it only happens to me in spam forums^_^

[Amon]

Kikuichimonji, on Sep 1 2004, 03:33 PM, said:

I did??? oh that was an accident...(Pls don't kill me possible wndering mods), 30 second flood control? yeah thats annoying but it only happens to me in spam forums^_^

I get it alot because I post alot pretty quickly. I wish they'd change it to 15 or 20.

[Elliott]

You do more than 1 post every 30 seconds? You must really want to get a high post count for some reason. I think it only really needs to be 10, as that would stop accidental double posts, why not suggest it in the suggestions for forum board.

[Linear]

30 second flood control. I get that a few times. When I'm in a hyper mood, I intend to post really fast for no reason whatsoever. But if I'm in a hyper mood, but still a bit sane, I go normal speed. (I have no idea what normal speed is for me)

[Mallick]

Right now, I have nothing to hate at Gss,no one mistaking newbs as n00bs,no fighting,not as dupe topics!

[Kikuichimonji]

Meh, i agree with PDM on this one, it's a nice forum and hope it stays that way

[Linear]

True. I also have to agree with you on that.

[Eugine]

That's why there is a search feauture CrystaJenn, in the rule Max clearly states to search before making a new Topic and new members don't.

[Izar]

Andross, on Aug 31 2004, 09:48 PM, said:

Agaito, you were one of the people who called a newb a n00b.
And would you STFU about Izar now? If you hate him, fine, but the complaint you always seem to have is how he's always warning you or something. How about trying not to state stuff like that? Then he won't actually do anything, and you won't have to interact. He isn't the one who always starts things too ya know.

Yup, I'ved stopped for what, 3, almost 4 weeks from replying with a bad note.

Another bad thing... the posting of irrelevent to the topic. If it's not a post related to the topic, don't post it. It's very disturbing when some one posts something small like "Oh thanks" or "that's cool."

[Luna]

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Another bad thing... the posting of irrelevent to the topic. If it's not a post related to the topic, don't post it. It's very disturbing when some one posts something small like "Oh thanks" or "that's cool."

Oh-ho-ho I absolutely despise that -_-

It's done by new members specially. It kind of gives you the need to tell them to follow rules and stay on topic, but then, you keep on scrolling down and down and then, half of the topic (or even more) is just their nonsense posts that don't have ANYTHING to do with the topic.

And then I just leave the topic because it got boring with this nonsense -_-

I believe it's mostly people that want a higher post count and sometimes just plain spam to get it.


[EDIT] It's like watching an interesting discussion or having an interesting discussion with a person and then a random member just pops up, states his views and then another one pops up and starts having a convo with the other member in mid topic.

And by a convo, I DO mean convo as in:

Harr harr: Yeah and so, pandas are getting extinct which is quite a loss

Harrdity harr: The poor things, they are so cute. I hope genetics advance and we can get more pandas or something before they're totally gone...

Person #!: Yeah, I don't like that
Person#2: yeah, I agree
Perosn #1: Yeah, lol
Person #2: o.o?
Person #1: Nah, was just laughing
Person#2: oh ok, lol then.

[Bomber_X]

haha i hate to read stuff like dat....lol spamming

[Eugine]

Yeah Bomber, posts like that we were talking about, posts that don't contribute to the topic. ^_~

Anyways, I also hate the members that break the rules and get warned about it and still do it again.

[ForteGX]

I hate topics that pretty much involve someone ranting about something they really don't know about; THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE IN PETICULAR! Ya' hear?

[Alex]

People who say "ya. he's cool." and people who Spam a lot. It gets annoying. And also, people who make dupe topics when all you ahve to do is go to the next page. I've made one dupe topic, but I searched almost everywhere and I couldn't find it.

[Linear]

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People who say "ya. he's cool." and people who Spam a lot. It gets annoying. And also, people who make dupe topics when all you ahve to do is go to the next page. I've made one dupe topic, but I searched almost everywhere and I couldn't find it.

I guess you're right. That is a bit...well, sort of a hate.

[Elliott]

The only thing I really hate now is that a lot of members have left, and the ones that replaced them aren't all that great. Also, I think Max could stand to post a bit more, and I'm also annoyed at the fact that nothing is being done to revive the site.

Oh yeah, *bump*

[smeagolio]

What does GSSF stand for? :rolleyes:

[el_Sethro]

Golden Sun Syndicate forums

anyway, for me, it's pretty much the same as Agatio's last post. only for me not so much that the new members aren't as good, but I prefered the forums when they where quieter, smller, and everyone knew each other.

[Izar]

What I don't like:
-Inactivity.
-Nothing is being done to revive this place, yet, I don't think anything will help.
-Some mebers think they can do whatever they want and get by with it, and most of the time they do.
-Max doesn't post alot like a member does.
-Sometimes too strict.

[Someone Else]

Everything Izar said, particularly the "Nothing is being done to revive this place" and the "Some mebers think they can do whatever they want"

I don't actually mind the inactivity. Forums are made to be a place to post in for a few minutes and then leave, not a place to hang around all day with big, bustling activity like this place used to have. :rolleyes:

[Elliott]

Of course Max has plenty of reasons for not posting (school, other site, family etc.), but I don't think 4 or 5 posts a day just to let us know he cares could hurt.

[Izar]

Wind Dude, on May 22 2005, 11:13 AM, said:

Everything Izar said, particularly the "Nothing is being done to revive this place" and the "Some mebers think they can do whatever they want"

I don't actually mind the inactivity. Forums are made to be a place to post in for a few minutes and then leave, not a place to hang around all day with big, bustling activity like this place used to have. :rolleyes:

I don't stay, I just keep the site open while I do other things. it's just now, the end of the school year, no one posts.

[Elliott]

Wind Dude, on May 23 2005, 03:13 AM, said:

I don't actually mind the inactivity. Forums are made to be a place to post in for a few minutes and then leave, not a place to hang around all day with big, bustling activity like this place used to have. :P

If people only post a few minutes a day it gets boring, and the place will die, half an hour to an hour is plenty though, means there are a lot of posts and topics of interest, not boring like this place can be.