[Izar]

Ok, I know some may have said these, but here it goes, my only post for these two weeks...

1 - A little building name, right when you get to the door, where on the top of the game's screne it will say something like: "Chat house" or whatever, so you don't really need to memorize stuff.

2 - Cussing Filter, some one said this, but it's a good idea.

3 - Wardens. You know, Computer controlled guys who will give you warnings, so you never have to getr mods for GSW.

4 - More spirites :(

5 - More Items in shops, etc

That about sums it up.

These are all "IF YOU CAN" statements, so, hopefully you know how to reply. :(

[Meglo]

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2 - Cussing Filter, some one said this, but it's a good idea.

I talked to AveneR about this on GSW, and he said that after reading through people's thoughts on this, he has decided that it is probably best to include a filter in GSW's future versions (thankfully :(). I'm going to assume this means mods will crack down on people who are talking innapropriately and swearing, also.

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3 - Wardens. You know, Computer controlled guys who will give you warnings, so you never have to getr mods for GSW.

I don't think it's possible for a computer to be able to tell if something is a violation of the rules when people are freely chatting...

I don't think we have computers advanced enough to figure out when someone is trying to get around a swear filter. Or disrespect a authority figure. Or any similar type of violation. o_~

(forgive me if I didn't quite understand what you are suggesting)

[Izar]

There IS a way for computers to tell if your doing something wrong. I meant a warden as a cussing filter guy. Like on FFTA where the judges get you for breaking a law.

And again, these are "IF YOU CAN" Questions, ugh. You answer then if you know exactly how to answer them, and you say why they are good and bad, both points...

[Someone Else]

I get what Meglo is saying... when you're chatting it's different than a judge in a video game, I don't think a computer warden would understand when someone was dissing someone else or something...

But then, I'm not the computer genius here so...

But everything else is a good idea. -_-

[Meglo]

In FFTA, Judges getting you for breaking a law is very basic, not that much of a genius is programming, because it just makes a judge punish you when you do one of several limited choices, that each “trigger” an effect. Like clicking attack on someone will make the units collide and the outcome is based on chance and statistics and whatnot. However, chatting is not that limited. Sure, you can program something to punish when someone types the exact text that it’s programmed to punish for, like a swear word. But, like a forum’s filter, anything could be bypassed if you just do it creatively. For example, change a letter slightly in a swear word and it will not be edited, because a filter only has a few specific selected things programmed into it that it will automatically edit. And because the programs are not ‘intelligent’, they do not understand when someone is posted something offensive. Follow me?

Summarized: Let’s say a forum filter is programmed to filter the word ‘idiot’ and change it to ‘#####’. So if you just post

You are an idiot.

It will change to "You are an #####". However, if you posted

You are an i[SIZE=3]d[/SIZE]iot.

It will not be filtered- the word will still be there, because the filter is only supposed to edit the exact word 'idiot', and this one wasn't just 'idiot'. The word would still be there, just one of the letters would be a slightly different size. People do that on forums with filters all the time to get past them.

Moderators can tell that people got past a filter or broke a rule without it being obvious. For chatting, computers cannot. We don’t have that advanced A.I.

Unnnnnddddeeeerrrstand?

[Someone Else]

Yeah I understand, I've done a simple program like that with triggers and such in my robot, but you were talking to Izar, right?

[Meglo]

Wind Dude, on Sep 15 2004, 09:55 PM, said:

Yeah I understand, I've done a simple program like that with triggers and such in my robot, but you were talking to Izar, right?

Yeah...or anyone who would read the whole thing, really. o_~

[Izar]

I didn't mean a dissing warden thing, I meant as a cussing filter warden..

[gsninja]

Yeah. dat is true dat.

[Nick Presta]

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Like on FFTA where the judges get you for breaking a law.

That is complicated. The Judge only knows the "rules" to be strings of data. Such as "When a Bow is used when it's not supposed to be" punish them.

But on a chat service,. we don't know what people will say and sure, you can auto flag words, but not sentences and a warden couldn't replace a mod on a free form chat.

[Kikuichimonji]

hmm well if someone is cussing in the chat service the only thing you can do is report to a mod...

[Meglo]

Izar, on Sep 17 2004, 07:54 PM, said:

I didn't mean a dissing warden thing, I meant as a cussing filter warden..

Wouldn't it be just as easy to put in a swear filter?...

[Colonel Tycho]

ya no kidding... the judge thing would get too complicated and require much more work than a swear filter.

[Linear]

I might think of it as...nevermind. Swear Filter...meh. :P (I was about to say something about it, but then I thought it was a bad idea to actually talk about it)

[Echo_djinn]

Does anyone here even swear? If no one really swears in the furoms then why would we need one.

[Kikuichimonji]

But ED, remember in GSW? That's where you had all the swearing people which is not appropriate for possible younger people...

[Linear]

GSW, there were some, or actually many people who sweared. The "perves" of GSW. They swear, and say things that what others do not even want to hear.

[Kikuichimonji]

...and did stuff we didn't want to know either, those people should be banned...ewww

[Linear]

Yes, there were many in the morning, and some of the worse at night time. Memories in being stalked were not plesant to me.

[Kikuichimonji]

Ooo, and those cloning people!, I had to ask WD for his sig as proof of who he is every time...

[Linear]

Yes the clones were very annoying.

[MysticWarrior]

I do not get how stalking on GSW is so nerve-wracking.

[Kikuichimonji]

It is...meh shouldn't this be closed, coz we are not saying anything that constructive now, I've repeated myself so...

[Linear]

Well...put it this way MW. If you want privacy, and you want to get away, there is a stalker always following. You want to be left alone to think, and you cant if there is a person just following you everywhere.

The stalker begins to swear at you and say nasty things to you. I think it's a bit...uneasy if I think about it. I got stalked the entire week of GSW.

[Kikuichimonji]

I had someone stalk me but it was just annoying really...what a mean stalker...

[Meglo]

Echo_djinn, on Sep 21 2004, 10:32 AM, said:

Does anyone here even swear? If no one really swears in the furoms then why would we need one.

There is swearing on the forums, but it's not serious offensive stuff here. Mainly because there are mods and rules here. GSW was a chat system with no mods, no filter, and people who weren't even members of GSSF were popping in acting like morons, so yes, it is needed, in my opinion.

[MysticWarrior]

If you want to be alone, go offline and sit in a corner. XD

[Kikuichimonji]

I think she meant when you just want to tlk to like 1-2 people, but then the perv gets in the way...I know theres msn but some people don't have it.

[Linear]

MW, you must keep it so simple I guess.

But what if the person doesn't WANT to log out yet?

[MysticWarrior]

Then they shouldn't complain...

[Linear]

Ugh, that is not what I meant MW. But I guess I'll keep my mouth shut about it now. =X

[Meglo]

MysticWarrior, on Sep 21 2004, 06:01 PM, said:

Then they shouldn't complain...

The same thing applies to this forum...why are topics closed? People could just avoid them, or log off.

Just putting it in perspective. :mellow:

[gsninja]

That's true. There is no point in closing topics...kinda.

[MysticWarrior]

You're good. Except, when a topic needs closing and isn't, it applies to everyone, not just yourself (or myself, or themselves).

[Linear]

:) When closing a topic, it would mean there has been a lot of off-topics going about on it, or there has already been a topic about it. :D I wonder how many topiced got locked...