[Golden Legacy]

I am creating this topic to succeed the World’s Flaws topic, rather than reviving it, for two reasons:

- To start Afresh- as some of you may recall, the original topic is quite old, and also very large too (it was once the largest topic too… * cough Spam cough * :wub:)… And I really want to begin all over again, yet I still hope that the discussions will have as much insight as the original…
- More Importantly: Many New Members have joined. It simply wouldn’t be fair to them, as everybody should have a right to express themselves…


So please, keep this topic open, and hopefully, as I said before, please put your thoughtful insight and hearts into these topics, as they truly show the world as it unfortunately is…

* sigh *

[Kikuichimonji]

the day the world surrendered to evil was when.....MARMITE WAS CREATED!!!!

nah just my lil joke

well there loads of flaws really in the world but if we always look down upon it, we'll never be happy... I wish poverty, illness, depression never existed but rather than look at it, do something about it.

[Ravenblade]

that was a really moving post...problems with the world...well the fact that the most powerful country in the world wont sign a deal to limit greenhouse gas emissions is pretty depressing i guess....although maybe it has its reasons...oo much secrecy and stuff...paranoia...that kinda thing

[Kikuichimonji]

hmm, all the secrets within friends, nobody can trust anyone anymore now

but heck I am happy go lucky... my view on life is just toget on with it :wub:

[Golden Legacy]

Kikuichimonji, on Nov 14 2004, 07:32 PM, said:

well there loads of flaws really in the world but if we always look down upon it, we'll never be happy... I wish poverty, illness, depression never existed but rather than look at it, do something about it.

But, what can we do about it? I’m sitting here, typing this, and elsewhere, BILLIONS OF PEOPLE are starving, at the mercy of nature and, inevitably God.

Here I am, wondering what the purpose of existence, and I have achieved NOTHING. Nothing to give me a reason, no true motives for living…

The World has its flaws, far too numerousto explain, but they are there. I recognize them, many others do, but they remain like that… is that why we exist, to CAUSE more conflicts, and to hopelessly seek to resolve them?

To put it simply, this world is corrupt and terrible, and causes all the grief and sorrow. What’s even worse is that we have caused this unto ourselves…

...suicide...

* Just so you know * This isn’t truly how I feel. What I have said above is an understatement of my emotions, but I doubt I have the energy or time to truly express myself now… forgive me…

[Sol.Warrior]

Don't worry because George W. Bush is going to bring peace on earth....

It'll be a smouldering wasteland.....but it'll be quiet.

[Ravenblade]

you really have an axe to grind here dont you? everything happens for a reason so maybe humanity is meant to go down fighting (itself) but theres nothing anyone can do about it except try and make life better for the people that come into contact with. The world will always have problems...

[Kikuichimonji]

but I look to hope GL, it's always there even when it is most hardest to see it

I know we as individuals cannot do much, but if every individual strives to make themselves better, then it wouldn't be an individual it will be loads of individuals.

No GL, we are not placed onto this world to fight, we have been given the gift of knowledge...but unfortunately we are too stupid to see beyond bitter differences between race, religion...

I know what I am looking at is a utopia which will not happen in our lifetime, but I somehow know, it will work out in the end

[Ravenblade]

well it has to work out in the end...sooner or later we'll all be dead and it'll be over...sigh...what God must think of us...

[Linear]

:wub: God gave us a reason to live though. Even in we do something wrong, he knows it wasn't for a real purpose. (-.-; if you guys get me in what said back there). Mistake, or non-mistake. God still loves all of us. :wub:

[Ravenblade]

very true! ^^ well said..

[Kikuichimonji]

uhh, this is off topic area RB :wub:

well said Lin, I always will believe justice will prevail

[Ravenblade]

<curses wildly> right sorry...its nice to see so many ppl think the world can be saved... kinda gives hope for the future and everything...go you guys! ^^

[Nick Presta]

Guys, we all know the "standard" flaws (Poverty, war, etc), you don't need to post them again.

Post things that are happening within your town, city, etc.

Just recently (A couple days ago) a man was out and while he was out his barnhouse caught fire.

His pregnant wife and SEVEN kids were inside and died of smoke inhilation before they could even save themselves.

The man is broken and relies on his faith to get him through his life.
Extremely sad =(

[Ravenblade]

hmm that is awful...at least he has faith though...i always hear about bad things happening in the news but i guess i kinda just accept it now...someone gets killed where i live every other week it seems...i wonder what could possess people to do that...

[Andross]

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Life is too important to take seriously.
-Corky Siegel

Life is something that everyone should try at least once.
-Henry J. Tillman

If you ponder stuff like this all the time, you'll just slump into utter depression. And since you only have one life to live (or, if you believe in reincarnation, one trip you can't remember again), you might as well be happy.

So stop b!tchin and start living! :wub:

[Echo_djinn]

The world has to many flaws to count them all. People always try to cover them up or forget about them but you can never do that. Everywhere you go you see problems allaround you and you can do nothing about it...

[Someone Else]

Some basic stuff:

Arnold is at CA's wheel

George W. is at the countrys wheel

Other stuff:

People seem to only be getting stupider

I feel as if I work hard all my life, only to work more, until I die.

[Kikuichimonji]

lol, like a never ending cycle, I know the feeling but I've just realised something today

If you always think too much, you will not be able to see all sorts of neat stuff going by you...hope that makes sense

[el_Sethro]

I think that the answer to starvation is surprisingly simple: I believe that 80,000,000,000$ (80 billion) was spent on the US military last year, which is clearly ridiculous. by using that money to feed starving people in developing countries. I believe that the military is completely unnecissary and that the whole concept of war is ridiculous, but I do realize that the military is here to stay (even though there was no reason to invade Iraq and there have been no terrorist attacks on the US since 9/11). even so, the money should go towards feeding and clothing the people in dveloping countries instead of being used to by the military to destroy homes and lives.

in conclution: the world's flaws = Bush

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there...that feels better. :lol:

[Echo_djinn]

el_Sethro, on Nov 16 2004, 04:06 PM, said:

I think that the answer to starvation is surprisingly simple: I believe that 80,000,000,000$ (80 billion) was spent on the US military last year, which is clearly ridiculous. by using that money to feed starving people in developing countries. I believe that the military is completely unnecissary and that the whole concept of war is ridiculous, but I do realize that the military is here to stay (even though there was no reason to invade Iraq and there have been no terrorist attacks on the US since 9/11). even so, the money should go towards feeding and clothing the people in dveloping countries instead of being used to by  the military to destroy homes and lives.

in conclution: the world's flaws = Bush

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there...that feels better. :lol:

You sure it was that much...maybe over a period of time but not in one year. IF that true that madness right there. That could feed the world over at least 2 times. Crazy...

[Andross]

Echo_djinn, on Nov 16 2004, 09:52 PM, said:

You sure it was that much...maybe over a period of time but not in one year. IF that true that madness right there. That could feed the world over at least 2 times. Crazy...

Eh, no, that's right on the money. In total, almost 1 trillion dollars has been spent by the Bush Administration, 100+ billion on Iraq. That money is needed anyway. Although, it would be nice if the gov't was more open about how the money is used :agitated:

BTW, military forces ARE needed, or else there would be no way to counter attacks on the US or allies. We'd be sitting ducks pretty much. You can't bomb for peace, but that's not exactly what terrorists try to do. They bomb to terrorize, and we have to bomb to stop their terrorizing.

The only way this'll stop is if the US gets smart and starts at the source - education of children in the mid-east. Might as well start infiltrating.

[Elliott]

Well put andross, you're a smart guy.
Osama Bin Laden admitted that he kills the innocent. The guys an eveil *******, no doubt, no denying it. The problem in Iraq (and the whole middle east in fact) is lack of Western involvement (America, Australia, England etc.). We need to get education in there, like Andross said. Thats the only way we can stop the Muslims from terrorising our society. I'm all for war in Iraq, as long is it solves teh problem :agitated: .

[Andross]

Well, the other problem is, the damn British pissed 'em off the first time, turned 'em off towards western civilization, and we've been going at it ever since. The problem with the US now is that they're forcing western democracy in a land that opposes western civilization. What we need to do is stop acting self-righteous and merely resolve by truce, rather than overthrowing these people. Worked for Ghandi, didn't it?

[Elliott]

I'm more of a white power person, go in there and sort the Middle Easterners out is my approach. With enough millitary and money, anything is possible. But I'm not sure many people here would ever agree with my idealogy...

[Julian]

power tends to corrupt. absolute power corrupts absolutely.

that's is so damn true.
Agatio, it think you are right. I agree ANYTHING is possible with money and militairy. But if that happens bush would probably become more corrupt and become a tyrant. I'm still not sure but i'm sure i don't agree on many of his rule. I don't think I'd trust a man who tells a dog about how much he "loves" his job (ya, i read that in a magazine (time magazine maybe, i forgot), it's crazy how these people try to get votes). XD. Because i'm not american, i can not go really indept and stuff but that's my views on that.

Anyways, i gatta rant about something here.
About those fat idiots who WERE trying to sure Mcdonalds... I gatta say this... GET A LIFE! I mean seriously, what? you think it's mcdonald's fault that your FAT? NO! It's YOU! omfg! I mean, stop whining and face the facts. Maybe you woulda been thinner if you ate less than a dozen burgers per day! EESSH! Just forget about it! You are who you are! Except yourself or no one else WILL! so you're fat, WHO CARES? does your friends care? does your parents care? NO! SO JUST LIVE LIFE! eesh, i think it's so stupid how the media is showing us these skinny hot people in magazines and such. God, they are making more and more people to NOT accept themselves for who they are. people should just be themselves and be proud of it, don't be something that the MEDIA TELLS YOU TO BE. JUST BE YOURSLEF. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. LIVE LIFE.

[My Best Wishes]

just about the whole war thing: terriosts (may have spelt wrong) read the name, they are not here to kill they are here to make terror terrorize people make things choatic.

my b!itch!n topic is the whole marragige and sexual standards in the world. Pornography is so easy to find, one girl in my class is 14 and has had sex already, same for two guys, we had a medival day and the girl came as a goth but with a black mini skirt that only coverd about a quarter of her thighs. and my brother is ingagaed and he is 21 nearyl 22 and some people say his wife to be (same age) must be a skank, i got so fricken :agitated:

in short: skanks are everywhere porn is easy to find as long as you know how to use the internet but getting married 20-25 is considerd bad, when my parents were married bout 23 years ago if you were 28 and not married it was considerd bad.

[Kikuichimonji]

one word for mcdonalds- super size me :P (anyone seen it?)

seriously though, I feel very sorry for mcdonalds, I've never seen this many complaints to it in ONE year! Now they are forced to make everything less salty, greasy and crap...

I mean, they sell PORRIDGE for breakfast now -.-;

But I never really liked Mcdonalds anyway, but you have to pity them

[Ravenblade]

1) McDonalds are just a corporate company..who cares about them? let them get themselves in and out of trouble...they dont need pity...

2) what kind of plan is going in to the middle east and forcing them down? they'll only hate you more...and unless you get rid of all muslims you will never get around that...most of the world hates america (im sorry to say)...i really think if you just laid back a little then people would just give up...i really wish we hadnt gone flying into iraq after you...Blair will never get away with something like that ever again...totally against public opinion...the world would be a much safer place if people stopped flaunting their might around and that really goes for all countries...the problem is that no one is brave enough to take the first step...

[Kikuichimonji]

I know, but it is kinda sad that a few lawsuits because people blaming them for their being fat, can do this

makes you wonder huh?

And yes, forcing stuff on people will not work

[Ravenblade]

i agree that these people are being totally pathetic with the mcdonalds issue..i agree totally...

[Arkarian]

Err, excuse me? I know I'm going back abit in the topic but it was not the british who went in there and stirred it all up in the first place. We owned Iraq for about two years after the first world war then the league of nations took over. We sat on india i must admit but we let them go and what they did after that was there fault not ours. I mean look at Australia we did the same to them yet I don't see suicide bombers running from that country nor canada. At this point I'd say the worst apple of the bunch is america, going in like rambo is not the way to go about it you lot just agreed that goin in with the military is right and yet most of you would dissagree that what the birtish did 200 years ago was NOT the right thing. and though you may have your heads in the sand its quite easy from my position to see that more fighting has occured (hence more death) with the so called military meant sent to stop that sort of thing there, than when they weren't. and before you say it I'm not patriotic im just practical, the fact is the worst the british did back the is wipe out resistance which is never really wiped out if ou thnk about it theres always one gets away. and told them they could only trade with the birtish and WE did not bomb the hell out of there houses (though I admit this is because we didnt have bombs and that we may have done if we had)
now thats my rant
(Now on topic)The truth of the matter is, the so called flaws of the world are of human perception. I mean when was the last time you saw a fox go, "bloody hell margerie them over on t'other side o't'creek ave lost the hunting flock this season its gonna be a bit of a famine on that side a reckon, what's the world coming to, eh?"
The point is you don't, they just get on with it. Only humans see things as needing fixing, they look at the polar ice caps and say oh no there melting we've gotta stop them it aint natural. when everyone bloody well knows its full well natural coz if you got ice ages you sure as will have hotter periods on the planet without ice, I mean otherwise the dinosaurs couldnt have existed, as they where lizards and therefore cold blooded and needing the sun to warm them, it takes a crocodile a couple of hours every morning to heat up so just think how long it must take for a Tyrannasaurus in present day temperatures, eh? Te fact of the matter is that the porblems of the world are either just things moving on (change has forever been something people dont agree with) or completely human induced and human instigated and therefore of completely human origin and therefore not a flaw of the world. There, here endith the essay. :P

[Ravenblade]

ok - this guy knows his stuff - i dont think the british were the nicest occupiers the world has ever seen but i agree that i dont think the iraqis hate the west so much cos of us - if that was the case then it would be us being the main target i guess...but who knows the real answer...still its not worth taking sides over cos thats just how these kinda things start up in th first place

[Issac_Zero2]

Wow, this topic is finally revived...
Anyhoo, on the McDonald's topic:

It is the obese people's fault. Nobody forced them to or even told them to.
They're just too weak minded to accept the truth that they are tempted to eat there...
But noo...They just had to sue McDonalds...
Its their fault, face it...

[Someone Else]

Well, who goes to McDonalds for breakfast anyway? No one can sue McDonalds for making people fat, it's their own stupid fault for being too lazy to make their own lunch, dinner, etc.

I understand working people often go to Fast Food places on their breaks, sure, I get that, but fast food once every day (excluding holidays) probably won't make you fat, this would be from sitting on your butt, munching on pizza all day. That makes you fat.

Healthiest fast food = Taco Bell or KFC. :P

Done and done.

[Julian]

Kikuichimonji, on Nov 17 2004, 11:11 AM, said:

one word for mcdonalds- super size me :P (anyone seen it?)

seriously though, I feel very sorry for mcdonalds, I've never seen this many complaints to it in ONE year! Now they are forced to make everything less salty, greasy and crap...

ahhh, super size me was what gave me this opinion. I watched it from science class when we were learning about nutrients and stuff.

People these days are so stupid, they are so caught up in trying to become something the media tells you to that they don't have ANY time to BE themselves and LIVE FUGGIN LIFE! god! I have a friend who absolutely LOVES nike, okay, his clothes... from head to toe, even his socks are nike and why you may ask.... is it not because he sees it on commericals, magazines and people who wear it is also promoting nike? ofcourse it is, what else gives him the idea to LOVE nike so much? Not only is nike freaks for all the child labor they create they are also giving people the wrong image. Fashion is nothing when you CAN'T BE YOURSLEF. The media is hypontizing all these people into believing in something that is NOT REAL, one day this can create serious damage to our world because by then a good amount of the world's population will NOT know WHO THEY ARE, they will only be what everyone else tells them to be.

Today, i had a student from my english class do a speech on Iraq and the war. He himself is from Iraq, he lived there 2 months ago. I was very interested in hearing what he had to say. Was Saddam a tyrant? not really. Were there weapons of mass destruction? hell no! Have they found Binladin after tearing Afghanistan apart? pfft no. The only TRUE thing that Bush has done is steal Iraq's oil and bring chaos to the land. Do the citizens get a say in this? aren't they the ones LIVING there? i got one word... N-O. That's what he basically had to say and i have to agree with him.

[Kikuichimonji]

nike= sweatshops

one of the main reasons why i don't buy nike stuff...besides I don't follow the crowd, the world is way better without clones

[Julian]

Kikuichimonji, on Nov 17 2004, 04:54 PM, said:

nike= sweatshops

one of the main reasons why i don't buy nike stuff...besides I don't follow the crowd, the world is way better without clones

You are totally right... i mean picture this...

White T-shirt :P
$8.00

White T-shirt with nike logo on it
$20.00

for some people with comon sence, they would pick the first but unfortunatly i know a lot of people who would pick the second. I think that is just so stupid.
1. what the hell is the difference?
2. they are just advertising OFF YOU

[Kikuichimonji]

XD I never thought of the second point...that enlightened me

I swear, at my school ,which is a girls school, everyone was obsessed with some Louis Vuitton gear...when I saw it, I was like ....that meant to look nice?

I know some people who buys hundreds of pairs of sneakers, shoes...what's the point? I am happy with the two pairs I've got!

[Someone Else]

Yeah, people are just walking bulletin boards nowadays...

Speaking of which, another flaw is that people are very ... materialistic nowadays. Hell, you don't need a yo-yo with a built-in camera and MP3 to be happy! Sometimes I find enough pleasure in just petting my cat for a few minutes. :D

[Andross]

watch, on Nov 17 2004, 06:14 AM, said:

just about the whole war thing: terriosts (may have spelt wrong) read the name, they are not here to kill they are here to make terror terrorize people make things choatic.

No, they terrorize to try and get the US OUT of the mideast, and also get rid of Israel. Why? Because they hate ALL things that represent western civilization, as the western people were the ones who made their lives hell in the first place.

[Julian]

ya, that's very true too.

I also hate ageism, god that who fact is so stupid. I mean, have you ever walked into a shop thinking your being watched? why are kids always the ones being pickpockets? i always see on commericals, kids stealing. GOD OPEN YOUR EYES! adults STEAL too! I mean, why is it that kids are always being accused of everything... i mean, lets say your a older makes a mess at a coffee machine and the shopkeeper lets him go easy (or he doesn't notice at all) but when it's a kid with a slurpee machine, they stare at you until you leave and shout when you make a mess... god it's so stupid. Don't kids have rights? Do our appearance make us criminals? Why should we be prejudged because of out age? Don't we deserve just as much respect as anyone else?

[Elliott]

No, cause we're youth. Thats the way it has always been. Get older, get more respect.
Live with it.
Period.

[My Best Wishes]

Andross, on Nov 18 2004, 03:06 PM, said:

No, they terrorize to try and get the US OUT of the mideast, and also get rid of Israel. Why? Because they hate ALL things that represent western civilization, as the western people were the ones who made their lives hell in the first place.

ok my turn, first the parlastinions (may have spelt wrong) after the second world war the allies gave jerruselm back to the jews, because that was thier land, now the parlastinions were kicked out and the jews sorta own them. so they are homeless with no country to call their own are getting back at the jews for kicking them out.

and terriosts and bombins have been happening long before the us went into irag or afghanastan. it has been going on for ages. westeners did make it hell for them,
quote from scarecrow: (this is the gist of it) westners have been tought to fight with honor and be fair, the french duelling at ten paces, the english jousting, americans:duells.
a terriost wins becuase he is EMONTIONALLY ready to die. and that sacres westeners.

Terriosts want to strike fear into our hearts, make us so scared. they do this by killing and doing unthinkable things, we do not undersatnd becuase we are not at their emotion level. that is what i meant in my last post.

[Andross]

watch, on Nov 18 2004, 08:35 AM, said:

ok my turn, first the parlastinions (may have spelt wrong) after the second world war the allies gave jerruselm back to the jews, because that was thier land, now the parlastinions were kicked out and the jews sorta own them. so they are homeless with no country to call their own are getting back at the jews for kicking them out.

The Jews DID NOT kick the Palestinians out. The situation was the result of stupid managment by the British gov't when they began to withdraw from the mideast. In no way did JEWS kick them out.

[Ravenblade]

exactly the same kind of stupid management that has UN troops bogged down all over the world...the americans and regretably us in iraq...Britain in ireland...besides Britain only withdrew from the middle east cos America said it was going to stop paying money to our industries...thus we lost the Suez canal...i bet the west is regretting that now hehe...if only we would leave ireland alone...

[Julian]

Agatio, on Nov 17 2004, 09:46 PM, said:

No, cause we're youth. Thats the way it has always been. Get older, get more respect.
Live with it.
Period.

LOL, it's the truth Agatio, i know that, some things just can't be changed. But I sometimes feel like i'm being treated like dirt and i can't fight back. I just feel so angry about it sometimes. When dealing with teachers or adults, i just feel so defensless because i can't fight back. I guess it's partially fear of the bigger. I don't know. Sometimes adults go too far. It's unfair.
btw, I'm living with it, i have to. don't tell me what to do when you don't even know me at all. It was only a opinion, and so is every other post in this topic.

[MysticWarrior]

Agatio, on Nov 17 2004, 09:46 PM, said:

No, cause we're youth. Thats the way it has always been. Get older, get more respect.
Live with it.
Period.

Tch, if that's the only reason they treat us like sheep, then the people who shaped the world must be missing a bit of something in their heads.

[Elliott]

True, but face it, there's nothing we can do about. Just wait 5 or 10 years, then get respect, thats just the way society works, like it or hate it, thats the way it has always been, and thats they way it will remain.

[Julian]

Agatio, on Nov 18 2004, 08:26 PM, said:

True, but face it, there's nothing we can do about. Just wait 5 or 10 years, then get respect, thats just the way society works, like it or hate it, thats the way it has always been, and thats they way it will remain.

tell me agatio, have anyone ever said it wouldn't. like I said before. It's only a opinion.

[Elliott]

Chill Julian, no need to get angry. I know it's opinion, I never said I didn't.

[Someone Else]

Truthfully, I never really noticed 'ageism', but I suppose you're right, Julian.

Another thing, stereotypes.

Here's something I noticed: A 10 year old girl can walk out of Toys R Us with a Hotwheels set and not get bothered or called '***'. A 10 year old boy can walk out of Toys R Us with a Barbie set and everyone will make a deal out of it. What's up with that?

[Echo_djinn]

Heh funny thing about that. Do you normally see a boy run out with a barbie set or any other girl doll...no. Now a days you see many tom girls and it doesn't bother people. MAybe if boys bought more dolls then it wont bother people as much but will that really happen.

[Kikuichimonji]

o O do you want a barbie?

Well, awkward as it is like saying men should not be looked down upon if they wear skirts because women nowadays wear trousers

so I see your point but if I saw a man wearing a skirt...

[Someone Else]

Heheh, I'm not saying I want a Barbie, but yeah, you know what I'm saying. ;)

[My Best Wishes]

Andross, on Nov 19 2004, 12:27 PM, said:

The Jews DID NOT kick the Palestinians out. The situation was the result of stupid managment by the British gov't when they began to withdraw from the mideast. In no way did JEWS kick them out.

i realize that but the allies gave jersluslm back to the jews. so in a sense the palestinians were kicked out.,

[Kikuichimonji]

erm, this is slightly delicate topic, lets not turn this into a flame war of sorts

flaw- Everyone is looking for flaws! If you live your life looking for flaws then you are not living!

[Andross]

watch, on Nov 21 2004, 03:29 AM, said:

i realize that but the allies gave jersluslm back to the jews. so in a sense the palestinians were kicked out.,

You specifically said that the Jews had kicked out the Palestinians, which is incorrect. The Israeli government, British government, and the War of 1948 were responsible for the removal of Palestinians. The only relevance that this has to the Jews is that Israel was deemed a Jewish state, but it is not as if the the entire Jewish population decided to remove Palestinians. The Israeli government themselves did not even have much to do with the removal except that they were acting in self-defense during the War of 1948.

[Arkarian]

I must admit the fact that stereotypes are annoying but they can also be very funny, I love to laugh at the ingnorance of most peoples viewing of the English. Where all tea sipping picnic basket wielding, cottage dwelling, alright chaps, wot, wot. The middle eastern problem began along time ago Andross. If you look back far enough the collaspe of the Roman empire led to the invasion of today europe all the way to france from places such as Iraq. This was then followed by the real annoying crusades where christians of that period with all their "If you're not a christian your a pagan heretic who must be executed after we take your money and land off you." Decided that to control Jerusalem would be a good thing as we tried to impress are religion upon them. That is a good start for this continous unrest.

And the whole respect that you only earn it by becoming older is wrong, I mean juist look at china they used to take orders from 10 year old emperors seriously. and try not to hurt his feelings due to fact that he could have them executed, lol.

[Elliott]

Please get a smaller signature image Arkarian. It's far too oversized.

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Here's something I noticed: A 10 year old girl can walk out of Toys R Us with a Hotwheels set and not get bothered or called '***'. A 10 year old boy can walk out of Toys R Us with a Barbie set and everyone will make a deal out of it. What's up with that?

Thats a prime example of the whole equal rights thing going to far. Can't they just make it so girls have to wear girl clothes, and boys wear boy clothes. Boys play boy sports, girls play girls sports. etc. etc. Woments rights have gone too far. It's becoming now that women get more rights than men. It's impossible to insult a female without being crucified for it, and yet there are so many advertisements where women downgrade males. I don't know the exact statistics, but men are much more likely to commit suicide than women. Geez, I wonder why. This day in age we are all so pathetic and caugh up in political correctness. What ever happened to freedom of speech. They days when a man could call a homosexual a "poof" and not get fined for it. Gone are these days. Welcome to the new era where nothing is sacred, and you have only one right, to remain silent.

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If you live your life looking for flaws then you are not living!

If you don't like it Kiku, the get out. We're here to discuss, and if your not capable of that, then please leave. We don't want people ruining probably the only sane topic on this whole forum. (Thats why I want a veterans lounge).

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so I see your point but if I saw a man wearing a skirt...

Thats exactly what I'm talking about in my first paragraph. You have a built in thing in your brain that tells you men can't wear skirts. Bad example I know, but the fact remains, these things are forced into our brains from childhood. It's almost brainwash, but not quite that far yet.

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And the whole respect that you only earn it by becoming older is wrong, I mean juist look at china they used to take orders from 10 year old emperors seriously. and try not to hurt his feelings due to fact that he could have them executed, lol.

It's an entirely different culture fool. I was refering to western society. And it's true here. The older you get, the more respect you earn. And to be honest with you all, I'm happy with it that way. Something to look forward to I say.

Concerning the Middle East subject. The US should team up with Australia and England, pump a few billion into a new operation. Send in teachers, and plenty of firepower. Then wipe out the terrorists, and re-educate the children and the general people of the area. Just stomp on this problem now, before it gets too out of hand.

[Dullahan]

the pathetic excuses of 'government' that run most countries.
an american public consisting 56 millionpeople who are stupider than Bush by voting for him, increase money on defence fromwhat? alien invasion? meteor impacts?

the sheer amount of yobs and dregs of society that roam the streets who beat people up 'for looking at them funny', i could go on for hours, i'll just stick with original statement

THERE ARE MORE THINGS WRONG WITH WORLD THAN THERE ARE RIGHT.

[Kikuichimonji]

okay, but there's no harm in being positive

and I'm just commenting on how the public would see it if they saw a guy walking down the street wearing a skirt, it all depends on the whole media network, if they it fine, then sure everyone would find it acceptable, but as it is, it doesn't

but hey, you wanna walk down the street with skirt, be my guest

EDIT- i do agree about certain things in your post, like how women tend to get custody over children in divorces, that's actually unfair

[Dullahan]

theres nothing to be positive about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ravenblade]

you could argue loads of things to be positive about...for example, there is a greater drive to educate the world and through this education we can understand one another better and hopefully have less confrontation. I met a woman on the street asking for money for a hospice (i gave her some of course) - people like that are a positive thing in society. Family bonds and friends - theres always positive things about peoples lives. This is more on an individual level (apart from the education bit) but then all the world is, is the perception of an individual of his/her surroundings. If you look for it you can find positivity in your life and that in turn essentially makes "the world" as you see it, a more positive place. Or at least i think so..

[Kikuichimonji]

It depends on people Dullahan, I used to be very pessimistic, but nowadays I have to find something positive otherwise I have no drive. No drive means no worth to me and thus I don't reach my potential, geez I sound like a robot...anyway

Those of you who live in the UK are aware of the fathers 4 justice group surely, and I fully back them. I think it's unfair on how the male counterpart is treated in situations like this

[Ravenblade]

i sympathise with them too i have to say kiku...especially since my dad and mum are separated...it woud have been awful if i couldnt see him. Although...storming Buckingham palace dressed as Batman?...ummm...interesting

[Kikuichimonji]

yeh but don't you see, that's how it works and it's how alot of adverts work too. Take something either simply very stupid or very unusual and it is a device in which enables people to remember stuff

besides, that was kinda cool :lol: but it also shows the sheer depth of this problem and that these people are taking to "extremes"

[Ravenblade]

but...it just made circus of their cause...sure the media and a side of the general public would have been impressed but...politicians?..the people that they really should be aiming for?...i dont think so..plus he could have been shot!!

Still...it definately brought it back into the public eye...

[Kikuichimonji]

But you see, if the media and the public is affected then the politicians will definitely be affected

It's like a pyramid, the foundation is the media , next is the public, next is the politicians. If one collapses, the others follow

The media has ALOT of power...

[Mallick]

Yes, it's kind of sad how the media can make or break someone's life.

I get what you mean with the pyramid Kiku, it also is kind of saddening.

The media is definetly a flaw, in my oppinon. They put the spotlight on someone's life, sometimes for days, making them look "evil" or however you would like to word it. Then we find out that the person didn't do anything bad, or we don't, and the person didn't do anything. His life has basically be ruined. The media never apologizes.

[Andross]

Dullahan, on Nov 25 2004, 12:39 PM, said:

the pathetic excuses of 'government' that run most countries.
an american public consisting 56 millionpeople who are stupider than Bush by voting for him, increase money on defence fromwhat? alien invasion? meteor impacts?

Arrogant socialists who act more like fascists by claiming that socialism is much better than a free-market economy and such societies are doomed are probably a bigger problem :unsure:

[Ravenblade]

Kikuichimonji, on Nov 26 2004, 05:57 PM, said:

But you see, if the media and the public is affected then the politicians will definitely be affected

It's like a pyramid, the foundation is the media , next is the public, next is the politicians. If one collapses, the others follow

The media has ALOT of power...

the media only has power over thse too ignorant to see through it...although i concede that this makes up a lot of people

[Sea of Time]

Ravenblade, on Nov 28 2004, 03:15 PM, said:

the media only has power over thse too ignorant to see through it...although i concede that this makes up a lot of people

Even if you aren't ignorant, you can still get sucked in by the media. It is everywhere, you can't escape the media.

[Ravenblade]

i've been escaping the media for about 2 months now...just totally ignoring it. However i follow right wing and left wing news and then tend to settle my opinion somewhere in the middle or with whichever sounds most plausible. One of the first things i learnt at university was how easy it was to ignore the media.

[Elliott]

Up with right wing, go Bush, go Jonnie!
*awaits crusifiction*
There are plenty of things to be positive about, it's just that we as a society focus too much on the negatives. Thats a world flaw IMO.

[Ravenblade]

you're right though - and i guess thats where the media really do have influence - they generate a lot of negative images and overtime that can make everyone cynical.

[Elliott]

Very true. All the news shows is war, famine, political talks etc. etc. They never show the positive side. (can't think of any examples, but you know what I mean).

[Eugine]

They do IMO, its just that the negative side just has a siloutte over the positive.