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#1   TobiasMar 

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    Posted 12 February 2005 - 10:17 PM

    Well, I know a ton of people have wanted Name changes to their accounts, and I think this is how the name change system should work:

    -Members are allowed to have their name changed, but only once ever, and they have to have to be active at GSSF and have been there for a while. Newbies will not have their names changed until they are no longer 'Newbies'.

    Thats just what I think of it. I mean, there are a ton of topics on this, but I doubt any of them actually have a requirement system to have their names changed.

    (If the admins agree, please change my account name to Tobias)

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      Posted 12 February 2005 - 10:38 PM

      Max is usually pretty firm on this. I don't think he would want members changing their names. It's up to him though. The only 2 that have ever changed are Julian (Gippal), and Eugine (Dullahan). A nice idea in theory I think.

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        Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:27 PM

        Well, if post count is nothing but a number (which that is all it is) just create a new account and transfer over any sigs/avatars.

        If you are well known, people will know who you are.

        I say no to this as it causes too much confusion.

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          Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:23 AM

          Agatio, on Feb 12 2005, 08:38 PM, said:

          Max is usually pretty firm on this. I don't think he would want members changing their names. It's up to him though. The only 2 that have ever changed are Julian (Gippal), and Eugine (Dullahan). A nice idea in theory I think.

          :wacko: I'm so special >.o btw, i never knew dullahan and eugine were the same person!!! :OOO
          That's one of the reason i'm going against it, people will change their usernames way too much and nobody will know who's who..

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            Posted 13 February 2005 - 06:29 AM

            Dullahan joined like 2 days after the forums opened, then changed his name to Eugine a few months later. After that, a new Dullahan joined.

            #6   TobiasMar 

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              Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:26 PM

              nick1presta, on Feb 12 2005, 11:27 PM, said:

              Well, if post count is nothing but a number (which that is all it is) just create a new account and transfer over any sigs/avatars.

              If you are well known, people will know who you are.

              I say no to this as it causes too much confusion.

              Well, not that post count matters, just I believe that you should have to have a way to earn a name change rather than have it never changed period. Okay? Plus, they will know who I am if I keep my sig. and I will add a little side-note in it saying that I used to be Gimli the Great. Isn't that okay?

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                Posted 13 February 2005 - 01:56 PM

                Agatio, on Feb 13 2005, 04:29 AM, said:

                Dullahan joined like 2 days after the forums opened, then changed his name to Eugine a few months later. After that, a new Dullahan joined.

                Yeah... all this time i thought Dullahan was Dullahan (the new one) XD
                I was so confused :P

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                  Posted 14 February 2005 - 05:48 PM

                  But if he had his name changed, why isn't anyone else having their names changed? Just a question.

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                    Posted 14 February 2005 - 06:42 PM

                    Gimli the Great, on Feb 14 2005, 03:48 PM, said:

                    But if he had his name changed, why isn't anyone else having their names changed? Just a question.

                    Hmm, well, probably because me and eugine both changed our names to a "normal" one, as in our REAL names, :\ If we would have asked for it to be changed to... lets say...
                    ~~xX-aznROCKlee-Xx~~Naruto♥♥♥~~
                    ... he would have said no >> (heh, i sorta over exaggerated on the example)

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                      Posted 14 February 2005 - 07:04 PM

                      As has been stated, I am firmly resolved against allowing users to change their usernames. I have denied about 4 requests in the past two months, and I am standing by my decision. You say to only allow each user one change, but doing that would open the door to even more than one change. If you don't like your username, create a new account (and only one, not multiple), and let people know who you are. But changing usernames will just confuse matters for everyone.

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                        Posted 15 February 2005 - 09:43 AM

                        Max, what is going to stop other people from creating more and more accounts, it is so easy to get an e-mail address. Think logically. If you let people change thier names it will be easier.

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                          Posted 15 February 2005 - 09:50 AM

                          There is the issue of wanting to preserve post counts...and the admins can check peoples IP addresses if anyone is suspected. Also, we'll probs just figure it out and report it. I don't think its a huge issue though as not many people ever seem to want to change.

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                            Posted 15 February 2005 - 09:56 AM

                            not that I particularly care because I like my user name but

                            Seeing as there are alot of users who would like a different username but would like to preserve their post count, I heard there is an option of merging accounts. Please correct me if I am wrong though

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                              Posted 15 February 2005 - 10:00 AM

                              i am eligible to go on this site from 11 diff computer 3 home 8 school. just let people change their name. getting a new is more work than just cangeing it. DUH!! I'm stupid and even i know that.

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                                Posted 15 February 2005 - 03:19 PM

                                Julian, on Feb 14 2005, 06:42 PM, said:

                                Hmm, well, probably because me and eugine both changed our names to a "normal" one, as in our REAL names, :\ If we would have asked for it to be changed to... lets say...
                                ~~xX-aznROCKlee-Xx~~Naruto♥♥♥~~
                                ... he would have said no >> (heh, i sorta over exaggerated on the example)

                                Yeah, and "Tobias" IS my real name. And Max, I will put a side-note in my sig for the name change. And what do you mean by "You say to only allow each user one change, but doing that would open the door to even more than one change?" That doesn't make sense to me. Plus, this was my name my whole time here, and it is boring now. Why am I not making a new account? Because I will be treated like a n00b if I do so. And I don't want that. And how about when you do name changes, you put a side note about the username in the sig? That'll cause far less confusion.

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                                  Posted 15 February 2005 - 03:25 PM

                                  Gimli, the guy made his mind up and said no. He obviously knows what he's talking about so just let it be. This isn't going to get you anywhere. And if you don't want to be treated like a n00b after signing up again, then you should carry out your plan of putting a note in your signature. It's not like we wouldn't know who you were anyways.

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                                    Posted 15 February 2005 - 03:50 PM

                                    Yah, but, if I don't have my post count, then some people will think that I'm not active, and I hate having two accounts! Too confusing. >_<

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                                      Posted 15 February 2005 - 04:10 PM

                                      If someone really, really wants to change their account (Gimli), don;t make a new htread about it, PM Max personally, ro talk to him over IM. Creating this topic has just got more people wanting to do it, thus making Max even firmer with his decision.

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                                        Posted 15 February 2005 - 05:34 PM

                                        *Sighs* Look people, I truly do understand where you are coming from, but I do not think that that is such a good idea. What I meant in my earlier comment was that if you allow each user 1 change, then after that they may want another and another, and by allowing them to change in the first place you gave them the idea that it may be possible to get additional changes.

                                        I don't really see what the big deal is with changing usernames. Usernames are for the sole purpose of identifying members, and so when you start changing usernames it confuses people. That's why avatars and signatures are customizable: so that you can go through identity or personality changes and people will still be able to identify you. If someone can give me a really good reason for needing a username change then maybe I'll reconsider my position on this matter.

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                                          Posted 16 February 2005 - 06:12 AM

                                          Julian, on Feb 13 2005, 07:23 AM, said:

                                          :) I'm so special >.o btw, i never knew dullahan and eugine were the same person!!! :OOO
                                          That's one of the reason i'm going against it, people will change their usernames way too much and nobody will know who's who..


                                          Max, on Feb 15 2005, 01:04 AM, said:

                                          As has been stated, I am firmly resolved against allowing users to change their usernames. I have denied about 4 requests in the past two months, and I am standing by my decision. You say to only allow each user one change, but doing that would open the door to even more than one change. If you don't like your username, create a new account (and only one, not multiple), and let people know who you are. But changing usernames will just confuse matters for everyone.


                                          If you're worried about people getting confused, change their title to "Formerly xxxxx"

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                                            Posted 16 February 2005 - 06:24 AM

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                                            If you're worried about people getting confused, change their title to "Formerly xxxxx"


                                            If you change their title then you don't see their rank, which people obviously seem to care about.

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                                              Posted 16 February 2005 - 10:36 AM

                                              if you give one GOOD reaseon why we should't be allowed to change our names i will switch my side.

                                              And I don't want a crappy one like, WEll this is my site and what is say.

                                              That is the carppyist excuse i will ever hear.

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                                                Posted 16 February 2005 - 11:01 AM

                                                Oh please, hasn't Max given his reasons why the names shouldn't be changed?

                                                Max is the admin, what he says goes.

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                                                  Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:32 PM

                                                  don't be a woss, it doesn't matter. If he kicks me off iwill just create another account and continue on.

                                                  Are you seriously afriad of Max.

                                                  i am just taking a stand agianst what i think is right so if that means being punishen than so be it.

                                                  A wise man ince said

                                                  there is nothing to fear but fear itself.

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                                                    Posted 16 February 2005 - 01:21 PM

                                                    But if it is such a big deal then go ahead and create another account. And implying that you would create another account if you were to be banned is not a way to go either if you want to be taken seriously :)

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                                                      Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:07 PM

                                                      Maybe if you learn to spell people will take you seriously?

                                                      You come across as an annoying 11 year old who justs want to get what they want. Take a breather and acutal read what Max has posted, maybe it will make sense, maybe not. If not, keep your mouth shut rather than giving an incoherent rambling about what is right and wrong.

                                                      And no, we're not 'afraid' of Max. It's just that he has the power to ban our IP adresses from even viewing the site, so it's best NOT to piss him off. Also, he's a great guy, so don't talk about him as though he's some ogre.

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                                                        Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:17 PM

                                                        *smacks forehead and runs his hand down his face*

                                                        Sorry, but, Max won't do it. No matter how much you protest. Just face the facts ... <_<

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                                                        EDIT: And by the way, it's not that we're afraid of Max, MS. It's because he runs the forums, and you sit back and enjoy yourself. What he says goes. Isn't that enough? :)

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                                                          Posted 16 February 2005 - 05:01 PM

                                                          MS, I'm disappointed to see you react like that. I had assumed you were a reasonable person that would read responses and consider the points of others. I guses I was wrong. Only two people have ever been banned, and both were spammers, so I doubt anyone is afraid of me.

                                                          Anyways, why do I need to give a reason to keep things how they are? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You failed to give me a satisfactory reason, so I see no reason for a change. I'll unlock this topic for now, but please don't abuse it.

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                                                            Posted 16 February 2005 - 08:06 PM

                                                            This is why I think we should change names, not make new accounts! The people who do make new accounts may also be trying to escape their warning level that they REALLY deserved on their other account or escape even ban! Having to make new accounts instead of doing name changes can be abused by n00bs that easily. So, don't you pretty much see why I think we chould actually CHANGE the member names? Well, is that good too?

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                                                              Posted 16 February 2005 - 11:09 PM

                                                              That makes no sense.
                                                              If someone wants to change their name, get a new account.
                                                              If you change your account to avoid warning, Max, and I think the moderators, can check you IP anyway, so they tell if it's you. Then they can ban you. Period.

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                                                                Posted 17 February 2005 - 08:53 AM

                                                                Max, I also say respect is earned not given. I my life I have only given respect to 10 people and one is dead. Me, everything sat is stuff I learned. A man can not be punished ofr words not actions. Anyway I reflected is your decision is final and i can not argue that any more.

                                                                Sorry for making a big thing out of nothing.

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                                                                  Posted 17 February 2005 - 03:07 PM

                                                                  Agatio, on Feb 16 2005, 11:09 PM, said:

                                                                  That makes no sense.
                                                                  If someone wants to change their name, get a new account.
                                                                  If you change your account to avoid warning, Max, and I think the moderators, can check you IP anyway, so they tell if it's you. Then they can ban you. Period.

                                                                  Well, yeah, but dial-up users can alwars come back, because their PREVIOUS I.P. was banned.

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                                                                    Posted 17 February 2005 - 03:26 PM

                                                                    But they will always get found out. It is pointless to come back after being banned. Because you either lie to make people like you, or you tell the truth and people hate you like they did before, then you get banned all over again.

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                                                                      Posted 17 February 2005 - 05:46 PM

                                                                      I'm going to finally close this topic.

                                                                      Manning, you still aren't spelling things correctly or using grammar, so that last post of yours is slightly incoherent. I never asked you to respect me, and if you don't that's fine with me.

                                                                      Nick and I discussed this a bit and have come to a decision. It will be announced soon.


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