[Echo_djinn]

Just curious, who here has gone drinking? Let me be more specific, who here has ever gotten drunk? If you answered no to both question my last question is have you ever tased or drank a alchool beverage? Why am I asking this? I am just curious. Most of us are not above the drinking limit yet I am positive most of us have had a taste of alchool.

[Mars Djinni]

I've tasted Beer, Red Wine, Champaigne, and Sherry(sp?). Not as much as to get me too "hyped up", though. Those all were are family parties. Red wine and such were part of my mom's recipes, so yeah :P

[Zxor]

I have tasted lots of different kinds of Alchohol. And I have gotten drunk, I know bad boy, to young, yada yada yada. I got drunk in Italy drinking bacardis and Coke&Malibu. <<<<<--------------- So good!!!! *tastes it* And what sucked, I got drunk the night I got on the plane, so I didn't fall asleap until the plane and had a hangover on the plain T_T Thank you Lord I didn't throw up/

[MysticWarrior]

I never plan to drink. Although when I was 7 my dad let me have a sip of his beer.

It tasted awful.

[Elliott]

I first drank when I was 16, got drunk a couple of months later for the first time though. I've drank heaps since and gotten drunk plenty of times. It's no real claim to fame, everyone does it. Beer does taste **** but when it's free at parties I don'y complain. My favourites are Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Cougar.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I have drank pretty much, but my favorite is Passoa. Tastes great. And yeah I have been getting drunk alot.

[Luna]

I hate drunk people with a passion. If any of you is ever drunk in MSN and decide to talk to me, for everyone's sakes DO NOT DO IT. Some people hate muslims, some people hate racists, some people hate pop singers.

I. Hate. Drunk. People. Period.

And for some reason, some people take a fancy to going on MSN while they're drunk. I have no earthly clue of how can they even TYPE but, it has happened to me more than a couple of times. Not cool.

As for drinking myself, I can't drink more than 2 drops of any type of alchoholic beverage cause the taste is just HORRIBLE. BUT, I sure have tried some things just 'cause.

Example: I wasn't going to leave France without tasting the wine and the champagne or that weird drink that was made with a secret process guarded by monks for generations and which had 40% and 55% alchohol. That last one tasted like normal farmacy alchohol but, it was interesting XD.

I've also tried Coke&Malibu, it tasted so-so at first and then I was just all "D:.... nu more drink plz it's eww". Also tried Caipirinha and a bunch of wines.

>> I just simply can't see how people like it so much. I drink when I'm thirsty, not for whatever other reason.

This post has been edited by Sheba: 30 January 2006 - 11:29 PM

[musicman2059]

Sheba said:

which had 40% and 55% alchohol

Bad sheep! Go to your stable!

Bah, I drink, but I don't get drunk. I maybe have a beer every month or two.

[Laharl]

I go drinking every week or so, pubs are good and I AM NOT an alcoholic! Beer did taste like **** at first but i got used to it, pretty nice now actually, probably because i killed all my taste buds withit

[Mycarayne]

Two simple words: Bundaberg Rum.
My favourite drink ever (Mixed with coke)

I don't mind the odd Tequila shot either. Though, I leaves a stong aftertaste sometimes. I swear I could still taste it about 12 hours later once.

I don't drink beer. Full Stop. It tastes like crap and I tell everyone who asks me to have one exactly that.
"I'll have a rum and coke though"

[pHantOm]

MysticWarrior, on Jan 30 2006, 10:54 PM, said:

I never plan to drink. Although when I was 7 my dad let me have a sip of his beer.

It tasted awful.

Parents are smart doing that, when you're little it tastes awful so it will stay in your head forever. Too bad didnt work with me lol. I drink at parties, only got drunk once and I dont intend to do it again....hangovers are awful.

[Mycarayne]

Yeah, hangovers suck. Yet, people still drink?

Probably because being drunk is a fun and social thing.

[pHantOm]

Memories Remain, on Jan 31 2006, 07:46 AM, said:

Yeah, hangovers suck. Yet, people still drink?

Probably because being drunk is a fun and social thing.

I drink because it kind of makes me how can I say this...carefree? And its fun at parties, long as you just drink carefully. The first time I drank at a party, im like wow cool and started drinking like soda LOL...HANG OVER! :P I was wasted. I used to drink often, as a treat to myself with a beer or so. Its an aquired taste, and I wont lie, I like it. LOL But I havent drunk in awhile, have alot of other things going to drink. But I will say this...playing ms drunk is fun lol. Long as your not DRUNK, just a little tipsy.

[Laharl]

A good quote about hangovers

"Although the destination is **** you don't half enjoy getting there"

yes, they do indeed suck

[musicman2059]

That's one reason why I don't drink more then one. :blink:

But yeah. I get discounts upstairs in the pub at the rink i work at. So yeah. :P

[l3lueMage]

I have never tried it, never will, never will even touch the stuff, actually I had 1 sip but I spit it out cause it tasted so bad...so technically I havent had any :blink:

Drunk people on mSN...I had 1 person do that, it was funny messing with him XD...but....I blocked him cause he got drunk like everynight -.- and I deleted him :P anyways.....Never ever will touch the stuff

[I'm Always BROKE]

l3lueMage, on Jan 31 2006, 05:57 PM, said:

I have never tried it, never will, never will even touch the stuff, actually I had 1 sip but I spit it out cause it tasted so bad...so technically I havent had any :blink:

Drunk people on mSN...I had 1 person do that, it was funny messing with him XD...but....I blocked him cause he got drunk like everynight -.- and I deleted him :P anyways.....Never ever will touch the stuff

Whoa dude you talk about alcohol like it is drugs... Well I can't really force you or anything but with the age of 17 you should atleast try it out once again. I had 1 sip beer when when I was like 6 and yeah then it tastes really bad. But then again I drank it when I was 14 and I began to like it. So it isn't that bad really... Only just don't drive when your drunk and you'll be fine.

[l3lueMage]

THats cause it is a drug O_O;; And it also makes you fat if you drink it all the time >_>

[pHantOm]

l3lueMage, on Jan 31 2006, 12:45 PM, said:

THats cause it is a drug O_O;; And it also makes you fat if you drink it all the time >_>

Because of the yeast in it. Do I look fat? The key is budlight. :blink:

[Elliott]

Alcohol is a poison. And it's beer that will make you fat, or give you the 'beer gut'. Drinking alcohol loosens you up, gets rid of inhibitions, and can make you do fun stuff you probably would not do if you were stone cold sober such as making out with randoms or getting naked.

[I'm Always BROKE]

l3lueMage, on Jan 31 2006, 06:45 PM, said:

THats cause it is a drug O_O;; And it also makes you fat if you drink it all the time >_>

Yeah but eating burgers and things makes you fat to. It doesn't really mathers but you don't have to drink it all times.

[l3lueMage]

And I have maybe 1 burger......a month? lol...so there :blink: I dont know a time that I have had the same food more than twice a week x-X;; and last time I had a burger was like 3 weeks ago

[Neo]

// I managed to get on the laptop for a few minutes!!


I see everybody talking about "Beer being poison", "I will never drink it!", "I hate it", and all that stuff... I actually laugh at that. Sure, it's a matter of opinion... but my opinion is; Beer is Good! It tasted good, has lovely side effects and get's you going. I've been drunk numerous times, never had a hang-over, and got into some pretty funny situations with beer....

My two small cents.

[Golden Legacy]

All right. Now, chances are, I'm not going to be very popular with this post. I just want to state that this is purely my own notion, my own opinion, and my own take on drinking. I am not flaming or criticizing anyone, please understand.

Drinking... no. It's wrong. It's awful. It is a sign of weakness in moral and ethics. Drinking submits yourself to one of the absolute sins of human nature. I say "sin" simply because I don't know another word for it; I don't believe people who drink are necessarily bad.

But why? Why should you risk ravaging your own body, why should you flout your own moral conscience, why should you decide to lose control of yourself and lose your innocent bearings?

(This can apply to other things besides Alcohol, of course... namely the misuse of drugs, cigarettes, even sex, and other such things of that nature)

To put it very simple: Never drank alcohol, never will.

[Eugine]

I never drank alcohol, and I don't intend to. Yes, I've tasted mild beer, and alcohol in cakes, but OMG, a sip made me disgusted. I hate liquor. GL practically explained my feelings :blink:

[Enoch]

I'm as old as I am, and have never drank before. Not even by accident, as far as I'm aware. Never intend to do so either. :blink:

Although all my freinds drink...........or get stoned......... or trip on something...............theye are cool though. I don't hate! :P

This post has been edited by Enoch: 31 January 2006 - 04:07 PM

[el_Sethro]

no, I don't do ANY drugs. I think I've had a sip of wine a long time ago, and I didn't like the taste. But the main reasons I don't drink alcohol (or any other drug) are that it is addictive, horrible for your health, it kills irreplacable brain cells, and most of all, it impairs judgment. I have no idea why some other people like drugs so much, as I personally would NEVER want to lose control of my body and mind.

[Toasty64]

I've had a sip of wine once myself, didn't taste all that great, kinda makes me wonder why people do it any way, BESIDES THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU DRINK YOU USUALLY END UP DOING SOMETHING CRAZY. My friends grandpa(and before you suspect anything, his entire family is christian, none of them are drug addicts or in any other way addicted to something) mixed up about 12 different alchohols (like beer, RUM, brandy, ect.) in a glass and told him to take a sip, he said it felt like someone had poked a branding iron down his throat. I myself would never do that in a lifetime.

[Golden Legacy]

Now, may I ask something?

Some of you make it clear you mean not getting drunk. Others have stated merely not drinking at all, not even the smallest alcohol consumption.

Which exactly would you make clear? I personally am inclined to the latter; total abstinence. I was just confused from some of the posts as to which exactly it referred to.

[l3lueMage]

Would never drink, never get drunk period.

[Elliott]

A few people, Golden Legacy in particular, have this silly misconception that drinking any alcoholic beverage at all will make you: act like a total retard, do something crazy, take drugs, and have sex. That only happens in the rarest of cases, I can tell you from experiencing quite a few situations and parties that have involved alcohol.

I've been drunk plenty of times and not to this day have I had sex, or done drugs. Sure drinking excessively can cause you to do something stupid, but it's their choice, and their actions so what the **** is it to you? People who are so against drinking are generally against parties (real parties I mean), which can be a sign of social outcasts who are against drinking simply because they can never do it, and the other reason is their religious beliefs (which I am pretty sure is the case with GL and Eugine).

Anyway, drinking lightly is fun, it gets rid of the nerves and you can end up meeting and having good conversations with people, so there isn't a real reason to be against drinking at all, only to be against people who get drunk, and do something along the lines of drugs, or driving under the influence.

It all depends on the person. I have a mate who smoked weed while drinking, and a few people who have had sex after drinking and regreted it (emphasis on the 'regret' part). If you're stupid enough to do any of these things then you deserve to get pregnant/get someone pregnant or get addicted to a drug.

This post has been edited by Agatio: 31 January 2006 - 09:43 PM

[l3lueMage]

Okay fine I dont really care, just dont be around me when drinking or being drunk -.-;

Now as for smoking I will never do it because
1. When im around anyone that smokes(even if they are far away and the wind blows in my direction) It makes it impossible for me to breathe and sometimes hurts my chest.
2. Why kill yourself? People say because it relieves my headache or stress, oh boy lets go kill ourself to release some pain, so are you saying you cant get through it like all the rest that dont smoke?

ALSO THE MOST ANNOYING THING IN THE WORLD, is the stupid reasons people come up with, adults/teenagers that I have asked why they smoke and these are the two most common So called counter arguments they use.

Breathing air is bad for you but you still do it
Drinking water kills you but you still do it.

The top one sounds super emo and retarded, the second one does also. Even just talking to someone that smokes if their breath smells like smoke and they breath on me, that even makes it hard to breath x-X;;

[Neo]

I second what Agatio said. Drinking lightly does make you feel more comfortable. You care less about stupid things as "Maybe she/he hates me..." and you just talk. Getting a conversation started without drinking is easy too, but let's be honest; once you care less, you try more. I never had any hard drugs, and I never had sex after getting drunk... It's possible to "think" while being drunk, you know. When some girl comes up to you, starts kissing you and asks you to go with her, It's not that hard to say know -- unless she's damn hot XD. I don't see why people can be against alcohol -- except for religious reasons -- and I find it rather strange that on this forum, almost everybody is against alcohol, and on other forums I've been nobody is against it. Pretty funny that this place is some sort of anti-alcohol/smoking/drugs place -- I'm against hard drugs too u know...

[pHantOm]

Neo_Genesis, on Feb 1 2006, 04:16 AM, said:

and I find it rather strange that on this forum, almost everybody is against alcohol, and on other forums I've been nobody is against it. Pretty funny that this place is some sort of anti-alcohol/smoking/drugs place -- I'm against hard drugs too u know...

Look at the ages, you will notice the older the age the more they are willing to try it or actually drink. :blink: A few exceptions but the rule is pretty much marked in stone. Older you are, more of a chance you will like it or actually drink already.

[el_Sethro]

Agatio, on Feb 1 2006, 01:10 AM, said:

People who are so against drinking are generally against parties (real parties I mean), which can be a sign of social outcasts who are against drinking simply because they can never do it, and the other reason is their religious beliefs (which I am pretty sure is the case with GL and Eugine).

no, we "generally" aren't, and saying that people who don't drink are social outcasts is exactly the the reason why so many people do drink - to fit in. I am not against drinking for religoius reasons (obviously, because I'm an athiest), or because I'm a "social outcast", but because of the physical and mental consequences, which I really do not want to inflict upon myself. I know that small amounts of alcohol don't make you raging drunk, but even small amounts DO impair your judgment (just not as much as larger amounts).

I do believe in freedom of choice - I won't try to stop you from using drugs, but don't think that I'm a social outcast because I don't poison myself regularily.

[Toasty64]

Even though drinking is sort of against my religion(christianity), I still would never drink until I was 35, even then I would only have a beer 4 times a year at most. I would also NEVER do drugs or get really drunk because I don't want to act like some viking from the tenth century who got drunk and high on poison mushrooms and beer, they run around screaming with foam in their mouths going on a killing spree. I learned that in my social studies class today, and only three vikings would do that before battle because it scared the he*l out of their opponents.

[Golden Legacy]

Agatio, on Jan 31 2006, 11:40 PM, said:

A few people, Golden Legacy in particular, have this silly misconception that drinking any alcoholic beverage at all will make you: act like a total retard, do something crazy, take drugs, and have sex. That only happens in the rarest of cases, I can tell you from experiencing quite a few situations and parties that have involved alcohol.

I've been drunk plenty of times and not to this day have I had sex, or done drugs. Sure drinking excessively can cause you to do something stupid, but it's their choice, and their actions so what the **** is it to you? People who are so against drinking are generally against parties (real parties I mean), which can be a sign of social outcasts who are against drinking simply because they can never do it, and the other reason is their religious beliefs (which I am pretty sure is the case with GL and Eugine).

Anyway, drinking lightly is fun, it gets rid of the nerves and you can end up meeting and having good conversations with people, so there isn't a real reason to be against drinking at all, only to be against people who get drunk, and do something along the lines of drugs, or driving under the influence.

It all depends on the person. I have a mate who smoked weed while drinking, and a few people who have had sex after drinking and regreted it (emphasis on the 'regret' part). If you're stupid enough to do any of these things then you deserve to get pregnant/get someone pregnant or get addicted to a drug.

Amusing, really. Agatio sees fit to disregard everything I had said that I am not trying to criticize others, nor am I trying to "convert" others to my belief. Instead, you simply took out the core of my argument and used that as your source against myself and Eugine. Nicely done. (And yes, that is my rare use of sarcasm)

First of all, I am well aware that drinking in minute amounts does not cause you to be a raging, drunk being with no control. I understand people drink to lighten the nerves. I understand, and quite unlike you, I am willing to acknowledge that, and to consider it.

Is it the choice of people to drink? By all means. However, surely it isn't necessary to actually engage in, as Agatio puts it, "good conversations with people"? It is a way out, the easy way out. Even that doesn't do it justice. Instead of changing a person's character, or trying to interact with others, you would rather bring yourself to this point? The point where you must rely on potentially dangerous and disdainful means?

Without going into anatomical details, alcohol, in whatever extremity, is a foreign toxic to the body. And as El_Sethro explains, even it will have some effect.


And let's face it. This does not apply to all people, but with drinking, especially at social gatherings, what's to stop you from doing rather "bold" things? One has already proven himself submersive to the norms of society (yes it's a cliche), that person has already demonstrated the inability to resist the temptation. The first barrier is not doing it at all; once you pass that threshold, resistance falls. Considerably.

And finally, Agatio, it is incompetence to assume that people who demonstrate these morals and ethics (which, I will concede you seem to lack in pride and perhaps even arrogance) are social outcasts. In fact, I myself have attended my fair share of parties, perhaps even more than you have. And yes, these were "serious" parties, with people drinking.

All in all, Agatio, you have the right to damage your body, your pride, and your morals. But I will be confident that I have not.

[pHantOm]

Once again, it would be going against YOUR morals. Everyones are different.

[Someone Else]

Being drunk and driving a car is one of THE stupidest things you can do. I believe that you KNOW you're drunk? So why drive when you know you're drunk.

That's my two useless cents.

I've tried beer, and tried some wine. I hated beer, but wine is... okay. I doubt that I'd drink beer but I MIGHT drink wine when I get older. I heard that drinking some wine is actually good for you. Makes ya live longer or something like that.

[Elliott]

Good rebuttal GL.

Concerning the social outcast thing: I assumed that you being a hardcore Christian, and the way you post on here (so sophisticated etc.), you would be a bit of a nerd in real life. But since you say you have been to a few parties (though there may be some debate about 'real' there), and I assume now you were invited, maybe that isn't as true as I thought.

For people such as myself, who aren't the biggest talkers, a couple of drinks is a good way to loosen the tongue, and do things I wouldn't do normally like start talking to a random hot chick.

And I don't give a **** about pride, in my own mind I am right, and I couldn't give a flying **** what other ****heads think. So If I've done something stupid I will shrug it off easily, I still get invited to parties and have a lot of friends so obviously alcohol isn't ruining anything there.

The rest of you post aside from the above points was filler crap, so I'll disregard it.

[Golden Legacy]

Agatio, on Feb 1 2006, 10:33 PM, said:

Good rebuttal GL.

Concerning the social outcast thing: I assumed that you being a hardcore Christian, and the way you post on here (so sophisticated etc.), you would be a bit of a nerd in real life. But since you say you have been to a few parties (though there may be some debate about 'real' there), and I assume now you were invited, maybe that isn't as true as I thought.

For people such as myself, who aren't the biggest talkers, a couple of drinks is a good way to loosen the tongue, and do things I wouldn't do normally like start talking to a random hot chick.

And I don't give a **** about pride, in my own mind I am right, and I couldn't give a flying **** what other ****heads think. So If I've done something stupid I will shrug it off easily, I still get invited to parties and have a lot of friends so obviously alcohol isn't ruining anything there.

The rest of you post aside from the above points was filler crap, so I'll disregard it.

Agatio, I honestly don't mean any harm with what I posted. I simply felt that youhad not given the slightest consideration or regard for my own ideals, as well as others.

A nerd? I won't deny that completely. I suppose you could call it that, considering that I do consider my grades often, and I generally try to avoid slang and such. So perhaps, in a sense, yes. But just on a slight note, I still play sports, I enjoy going out with friends. A social outcast? Certainly not. I will even say that I'm not nearly this "sophisticated" at times; I can be relaxed and spontaneous (and daring to say the least, but I won't elaborate there :blink:).

To go back to the issue, it just seemed odd to me. I've always felt that the best way to counter nerves is to simply have the will to do so. Just have the strength to overcome whatever fear, awkwardness, etc. you may have. So, when you said that drinking helps relax you and to do things you normally wouldn't do, I just found it to be (forgive me) a sign of weakness.

Think of it this way; that drink only relaxes you physically, relieves your anxiety, and the result is your mentality becomes relaxed and open. Fair enough. But at the same time, is that truly what you are? I mean, to use your example of a "random hot chick", let's say you've been drinking and you meet a girl, and you start talking and whatnot. What if the alcohol alone is clouding the fact that you ordinarily wouldn't have really liked the girl? I mean, just because you're nerves are calmed down doesn't necessarily mean you actually feel that way, right?

And it might be because you rarely feel so relaxed that you do it; you feel great, calm, and collected, and you just want to try something you've never done before.

One last point on that example (sorry, I know I'm rambling); your nerves. What if your anxiety is telling you something? What if the reason you might be so nervous around a particular girl is that you can't really seem to feel anything towards her? Just a possibility.

This post has been edited by Golden Legacy: 01 February 2006 - 09:17 PM

[Elliott]

It just gets the tongue moving, there's no amazing thesis behind it. And obviously I would like the girl if I talked to her after only a couple of drinks just the same as I like her before that, the alcohol just loosens me up enough to approach her/make conversation. If I had a slab then made out with some chick who I don't even know who was ugly and gey then that would be a different story, never done that though. And me as a person is generally nervous around the girls I have an interest in.

[Laharl]

GL is only 16 and unless he's Spanish it should be illegal for him to drink, i didn't touch the stuff til i was 18 and then nearly died, once it's legal it's a lot more accessible so you kind of get used to it

[musicman2059]

Toasty64, on Feb 1 2006, 03:18 PM, said:

Even though drinking is sort of against my religion(christianity)...

I'm christian, and both my dad and I drink. I know a few other christians that drink, too.

[Golden Legacy]

laharl the slayer, on Feb 2 2006, 09:25 AM, said:

GL is only 16 and unless he's Spanish it should be illegal for him to drink, i didn't touch the stuff til i was 18 and then nearly died, once it's legal it's a lot more accessible so you kind of get used to it

Whether I am 16, 26, or 56, I simply would not drink, regardless of whether it becomes "accessible" or not.

[pHantOm]

Agatio, on Feb 1 2006, 10:45 PM, said:

It just gets the tongue moving, there's no amazing thesis behind it. And obviously I would like the girl if I talked to her after only a couple of drinks just the same as I like her before that, the alcohol just loosens me up enough to approach her/make conversation. If I had a slab then made out with some chick who I don't even know who was ugly and gey then that would be a different story, never done that though. And me as a person is generally nervous around the girls I have an interest in.

You wouldnt believe how shy I used to be when I was under 15 to ask a girl out. >_< But at like 15 I realized, hey these ugly dudes are scoring hot girls and im not half as ugly. So screw it. And I just asked the girl, and what do you know we are still going. :blink: Even though she moved to Canada! >_< 6 hour drives on weekends are killer, but totally worth it. Once school is up for me, I can be together with her all the time again.

[Elliott]

^ That's commitment.

At the risk of this turning into another relationship topic, I've just been shut down a few too many times by girls. And at this stage it doesn't really bother me having a girl or not. Sure at a party after some drinks I'll approach one, but it doesn't mean it's a life or death situation.

[Julian]

I never got drunk, but i've drank beer, wine, etc etc... before. I think everyone would have atleast tasted it once or twice by the time ur 15... my parents let me drink some on occasions (chinese new years xD) =p
they dont have a age restriction in china so i used to drink when i go back.
Dont get me wrong, i dont drink that much. ><

[Laharl]

No restriction in China!? then again it's not like the government will actually allow the populace any.

note: i may not post tomorrow i fear the qworst from cheap vodka

[Wiflewood]

Beer doesn't taste well, nice, really, but its refreshing, and I drink it when I can.
I have gotten drunk once at a party, and it feels pretty cool. A bit like once you get off a roller-coaster, but less sickening. I wouldn't make a habbit of it though. As my said after the party, if you got drunk every night/week or something, it would take away the 'specialness' of it.
We also usually have Vodka or Tequila and stuff at parties. it doesn't taste very nice just straight (burns your throat) but its OK mixed in coke or lemonda or stuff.

[Echo_djinn]

I've tasted red wine and vodka. I've also had a brazilian drink but I forgot it's name. That drink had the best taste to it.

Anyways, I don't tend to drink since for one reason alcohol smells like **** to me. I've got responsible friends so they don't drink either or at least not in front of me even if they are above the drinking age. No one wants to start getting tipsy of us incase they start to do/say something that we can always blackmail them later for.

[Toasty64]

I'm not sure how good of friends you are blackmailing eachother, but yeah, beer smells like ****.

[Luna]

I just don't like drunk people cause of two VERY bad experiences I've had with my own family getting drunk and ending up intoxicated or something. And leaving nobody else but -ME- in charge :D How fun!

I don't really care if someone drinks or not. As far as I know, 98% of my friends in real life do so. It's ok as long as they're not around me when they get drunk X|. It pisses me off to have to end up with the burden of being forced to take care of someone in that state.

[el_Sethro]

Sheba, on Feb 4 2006, 07:46 PM, said:

I just don't like drunk people cause of two VERY bad experiences I've had with my own family getting drunk and ending up intoxicated or something. And leaving nobody else but -ME- in charge :blink: How fun!

Ah, yes. I had a very similar experience. My parents where throwing a party with their friends (all old people - like late 40's - 50's), and there was waay too much vodka. Basically, they ALL got drunk, and myself, my brother, and the two kids of one of the other guests spend the night barracaded in my room from sheer terror. My dad was stumbling around with our iguana on his head, a guest was passed out on our lawn on top of her dog (poor dog... she was big, so she didn't get hurt, but she coudn't move with her owner on top of her), and another guest was tearfully telling her daughter that everyone there was a truely good person, and that if ever she needed someone, they'd be there for her (that was immediately before we barricaded ourselves in my room). It was a very memorible night, and it turned out okay - aside from a few people throwing up, everyone was fine, and no one drove, but all the same, that was the night I swore off alcohol.

[pHantOm]

Agatio, on Feb 2 2006, 09:17 PM, said:

^ That's commitment.

At the risk of this turning into another relationship topic, I've just been shut down a few too many times by girls. And at this stage it doesn't really bother me having a girl or not. Sure at a party after some drinks I'll approach one, but it doesn't mean it's a life or death situation.

A few drinks never hurts :blink:

And alcohol is probably the worst thing to abuse, you could ruin your entire life if you have too much. Now adays, it costs THOUSANDS of dollars, if you drink and drive. You would have to be an utter fool to even have your keys on you when at a party. Its best to leave them with a friend and ask him to pick you up later that night, even if you dont plan on getting drunk, or even drinking for that matter. If there is alcohol, its best to assume the worst.

[My Best Wishes]

I do not drink. And yes my faith has something to do with it but like everyone else i still have to the choice to drink or not.

1. It harms your body.
2. If you need booze to have a good time/party whats the point of being out?
3. I've served too many drunk wankers at work.
4. It's for pussies. If you need to get drunk to forgot your worries then i completely regard that as a sign of weakness. Even if it's Agatio's reasons just to talk or ask someone out, still need that one drink makes you that much weaker in my eyes.
5. Over 95% of fights start because of drinking. There was a fight outside my work the other night and the sercuity let their German Shepards of the leads, and the cops rocked up! WTF.

Drinking=Weakness and being Idiotic

[pHantOm]

watch, on Feb 9 2006, 12:21 AM, said:

I do not drink. And yes my faith has something to do with it but like everyone else i still have to the choice to drink or not.

1. It harms your body.
2. If you need booze to have a good time/party whats the point of being out?
3. I've served too many drunk wankers at work.
4. It's for pussies. If you need to get drunk to forgot your worries then i completely regard that as a sign of weakness. Even if it's Agatio's reasons just to talk or ask someone out, still need that one drink makes you that much weaker in my eyes.
5. Over 95% of fights start because of drinking. There was a fight outside my work the other night and the sercuity let their German Shepards of the leads, and the cops rocked up! WTF.

Drinking=Weakness and being Idiotic

Its funny, how you people automatically assume you drink to get drunk. For those people that leave the computer rooms and socialize, and have friends, drinking responsably is perfectly normal. Ofcourse im under-age, but that isnt the point. :huh:

[Laharl]

watch, on Feb 9 2006, 05:21 AM, said:

1. It harms your body if you drink more than body can handle.
2. Pubs are a good place to aquire alcohol and a key part of social infrastructure
3. I work in a place for drunk wankers.
4. Drinking gives you confidence and makes you more sociable.
5. 95% of fights are started because the bar staff don't know or care as to when to stop serving.

Drinking=Sociable and having a good time

i couldn't have summed it up better myself

[I'm Always BROKE]

pHantOm, on Feb 9 2006, 09:52 AM, said:

Its funny, how you people automatically assume you drink to get drunk. For those people that leave the computer rooms and socialize, and have friends, drinking responsably is perfectly normal. Ofcourse im under-age, but that isnt the point. :P

I totally agree with that.

Drinking is just something social. You guys watch too much drama tv about what drinking CAN do to you. Yeah perhaps it's true you may live a little bit less healty... but then again we're young! I don't care, since I drink Bacardi like coke. :huh:

[Sea of Time]

Am I too good? I've only had a couple of beers in my life and I've never gotten drunk.

[pHantOm]

Sea_of_Time, on Feb 9 2006, 12:01 PM, said:

Am I too good? I've only had a couple of beers in my life and I've never gotten drunk.

Getting drunk or drinking alcohol in general is nothing to be proud of, its simply another beverage. Bragging about being drunk, essentially saying you love being brainless and love letting out your ego(ego is a psychology term that says your good judgement and rule consideration isnt involved) and causing anything to happen is just stupid. Admitting you've been drunk etc. is alot different than bragging about it.

[Sea of Time]

So, you're saying it's good that I've never been drunk?

[pHantOm]

Sea_of_Time, on Feb 9 2006, 03:43 PM, said:

So, you're saying it's good that I've never been drunk?

I'm saying its not anything to be ashamed of. :huh:


XD

[My Best Wishes]

laharl the slayer, on Feb 9 2006, 11:49 PM, said:

Why yes I am a ****head

Well Dullahan i'm glad you finally admitted it.

pHantOm you have a vaild point i'll agree that much. I still see it not as wrong but a waste of time and money.

[Laharl]

lmao, quote editing is fun.

Alcohol is for people with Social Lives, they go out and have a good time or you could just sit in your house and be bored ****less, that said it's down to opinion, which are mostly irrelevent anyway. I'm really going to listen to a 15 year old about something they have no or little experience with, it's like me recommending a toy for a 10 year old i don't have a ****ing clue

[Elliott]

^ That's what I tried to say earlier in the thread. Drinking socially is fine. As long as you don't get drunk everyone has a good time, people make new friends, couples can be formed etc. and it can take the nervous edge of parties. Can you imagine a party of 250 + people without alcohol? Not gonna happen.

[Golden Legacy]

Agatio, on Feb 10 2006, 08:49 AM, said:

^ That's what I tried to say earlier in the thread. Drinking socially is fine. As long as you don't get drunk everyone has a good time, people make new friends, couples can be formed etc. and it can take the nervous edge of parties. Can you imagine a party of 250 + people without alcohol? Not gonna happen.

And is that the only way to socialize? You seem to be implying that alcohol is the sole means of making new friends, of forming relationships. Now, whether that is or not true I will leave you to decide, but I for one am proud and content that I have friends, gone to parties, hung out with people, etc. and all without ever turning to alcohol.

[Elliott]

You're only reading what you want to read GL...

I said alcohol can lead to new friends, it can help with socializing, and it can help to have fun. It depends on the person

[pHantOm]

Just got back from bowling with about 15 of my hockey team mates, and shall I say, alcohol was involved before hand. :huh: And no, I'm not drunk or anything. But it leads to alot of fun when bowling and watching one of your friends go to the wrong lane and bowl LMFAO XD

[My Best Wishes]

Agatio, on Feb 11 2006, 01:09 PM, said:

I said alcohol can lead to new friends, it can help with socializing, and it can help to have fun. It depends on the person

Yes but think about it, you meet new friends through drinking. Is that really the best form of a relationship?

Person a: Hey Vanessa meet Neil
Vanessa: How'd you guys know each other?
Person a: Oh we're drinking buddies
Vanessa:.....

[Laharl]

that's a really bad example, a more likely answer is "in a pub" or a "at a nightclub"

[Golden Legacy]

Agatio, on Feb 10 2006, 10:09 PM, said:

You're only reading what you want to read GL...

I said alcohol can lead to new friends, it can help with socializing, and it can help to have fun. It depends on the person

And usually you're the one who does that, Agatio.

If you read my post closely, you'll see that I used the word "implying". Your attitude toward this issue, especially when you criticized others for their reasons for not drinking, indicated that alcohol was a necessity to socialize at times. I am well aware it differs with person to person, but can you at least admit that, in your case, alcohol is perhaps one of the few ways to get to know people?

And Watch makes a good point; is drinking really the best way to form a relationship? Even if it is as laharl the slayer says, at a pub or nightclub, you're under the influence of a toxic, regardless of the quantity you consume. It's not really you that's trying to form a relationship, but simply the effects the drinking.

Let me ask you this; let's say you do meet a girl or whatnot, at a pub, because your drank a little alcohol to "calm the nerves" as you claim. Then, what if you try to pursue a relationship with that girl? The next time you meet her, what if it's not at a party? You'll need to speak to her normally, without having drunk. Then what?

[pHantOm]

You can only say so much to show or prove something, and I think that the arguement about drinking has been pretty worn down. It is obvious that there are a group of active teenagers that have tried alcohol, and socialize in a positive manner and a group of strong christian school boys that have never sworn in thier lives. You will notice the same people that are highly against drinking, to be the most religious. All I can say, is that I feel I lead a very healthy life. I have a girlfriend, I play sports and get out of the computer room. I read articles and information regarding war and current events in our lives. I have drunk alcohol, and I have been drunk once, yet I feel my life has not been effected by it at all, other than just another experience. All I can say, is that it is obvious who gets out and has an active life, and who is a book worm and sits inside with little social contact the majority of thier time. And both lifestyles are fine, it is up to the person and what thier preference is. Anyways I guess I will now get into the nice little discussion about hookups because I highly doubt many of you know what your talking about.

The views of GL and watch, are no offense here, nieve. You are missing the entire point Agatio is trying to make. The hardest part of a relationship, is mustering the courage to break the ice with the girl and walk up to her. If you become a little more carefree, it becomes very easy. Perhaps, when some of you get a few years older, you will see where a few of us 17-19 year olds are comming from. But maybe not, religion plays a huge roll.

[Someone Else]

Jeebus, I've NEVER been drunk and I haven't tasted an alcoholic beverage in MONTHS and even I can tell that watch and GL are acting like complete babies. :huh:

Alright, I agree that getting drunk and making friends that way may not be a good idea, since I assume that people act somewhat different when they're drunk. You don't know who you're making friends with, right? It's a bit like having sex under the influence of alcohol. This is coming from a complete virgin as far as alcohol goes, mind you I've only seen a drunk person once before, so stop me if I'm wrong.

Like pHantOm said, this little debate has worn down a bit, and their isn't much else to be said. As long as you don't get addicted to the stuff, I think it could be a great way to party WITH FRIENDS as long as you don't get completely wasted on it and do something stupid.

[Golden Legacy]

pHantOm, on Feb 11 2006, 10:32 AM, said:

You can only say so much to show or prove something, and I think that the arguement about drinking has been pretty worn down. It is obvious that there are a group of active teenagers that have tried alcohol, and socialize in a positive manner and a group of strong christian school boys that have never sworn in thier lives. You will notice the same people that are highly against drinking, to be the most religious. All I can say, is that I feel I lead a very healthy life. I have a girlfriend, I play sports and get out of the computer room. I read articles and information regarding war and current events in our lives. I have drunk alcohol, and I have been drunk once, yet I feel my life has not been effected by it at all, other than just another experience. All I can say, is that it is obvious who gets out and has an active life, and who is a book worm and sits inside with little social contact the majority of thier time. And both lifestyles are fine, it is up to the person and what thier preference is. Anyways I guess I will now get into the nice little discussion about hookups because I highly doubt many of you know what your talking about.

And perhaps all of you have missed the point too. I have a fairly active life myself. I am on two sports teams myself, go out with friends fairly often, and am as socially active as I can be content with. I see people, I interact with others, I am fairly aware of the events that are happening around me. And all this without the influence of alcohol.

The problem that your arrogance blinds you of seeing is the fact that the world IS NOT split distinctly into two groups, those who drink, and those who don't. The world isn't divided among those who have "an active life" and those who aren't. Just because a person doesn't drink does not mean they don't socialize. I honestly can't believe how naive you all are being in that sense.

Again, just because a person doesn't drink does not mean he or she doesn't have a socially active life; it just means they have decided to abstain from an intoxication that can be relaxing and helpful, and yet, can also destroy yourself and your body. It's a choice, NOT an indication of how one leads his life. And you would all do well to remember that.

[Elliott]

I give up on this argument. It's become easy to tell through this topic who the social losers on this forum are, and I can't see myself changing anyone's mind so why bother?

You're not worth an entire post, Agatio, so I'll just say this; how many times must I tell you that how socially active you are HAS NOTHING TO DO with whether or not you drink? You display the sort of arrogance and insolence that really defines some of the worst people. I've been calm, I've allowed you your own opinion, and I've sit back while you've been flaming everyone who does not agree with your ideals. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, Agatio. You've been nothing but a source of disorder and calamity, especially in this topic and the Religion topic. Get yourself together, or there WILL be consequences - GL

This post has been edited by Golden Legacy: 10 September 2006 - 08:18 AM