[My Best Wishes]

Dunno, but it was the worst of the bunch. It was mostly setting the scene for the following books.

[Ironsight]

didnt like it that much either, i think it was the same reason as Watch, and that they

Spoiler

killed Sirius off at the end

[TheEnglishman]

Argh spoilers! :P
I think Sirius's death didn't spoil the book. Just made it a bit more dramatic.

[Ironsight]

Me111, on Aug 17 2007, 02:31 AM, said:

Argh spoilers! :P
I think Sirius's death didn't spoil the book. Just made it a bit more dramatic.

damn, im sorry. i keep thinking every one here has read the book like i did

there fixed it, no problem now i hope

[TheEnglishman]

It was a joke. Don't worry about it.

[Aquamarine]

Me111, on Aug 17 2007, 09:27 AM, said:

Well if they had the big supper mega fight of death in the fifth book, what would they do for the last two?

That doesn't really make a lot of sense. Goblet of Fire had an awesome end-of-book battle, and so did Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, so why couldn't Order of the Phoenix have one? I mean, it was Dumbledore versus Voldemort, it was supposed to be something amazing.
Oh, and it's easy to make up good, big battles. Srsly.

[Golden Legacy]

^ I agree that the battle between the two could have been better - Rowling could have at least made it longer, and shown us what else Voldemort and Dumbledore could do.

I know this might sound strange, but the instant that I read Sirius died, I was actually a bit amused at first, because it was like:

Sirius and Bellatrix are dueling.
Sirius shouts, "can't beat me!"
The next attack hits him straight in the chest.

Then, as he fell through the veil, it hit me that he "died"... but still, I dunno. I think his death could have been accomplished better.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Aug 17 2007, 05:59 PM, said:

That doesn't really make a lot of sense. Goblet of Fire had an awesome end-of-book battle, and so did Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, so why couldn't Order of the Phoenix have one? I mean, it was Dumbledore versus Voldemort, it was supposed to be something amazing.
Oh, and it's easy to make up good, big battles. Srsly.

I guess. It wasn't amazing but you can argue that the ones which come afterwards make up for it.

[Someone Else]

"Harry Potter and the Curse of High Expectations" is what I'm thinking right now.

[Eugine]

The part that made be love OoTP so much was the scene in the Headmaster's office. I loved that part so much. I read it over and over just because of the lines JK gave Dumbledore.

[Golden Legacy]

^ The scene where Fudge, Umbridge, Dawlish, etc. try to take Dumbledore in by force, and he takes them all out? Yeah, that was pretty sweet.

[Aquamarine]

Hey, what ever happened to Fudge anyway? He didn't appear in the last book at all, and I remember him talking to the Muggle Prime Minister(Tony Blair, in other words) in the first chapter of Half-Blood Prince. Did he get killed in that book or something? I can't remember...

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Aug 18 2007, 04:21 AM, said:

"Harry Potter and the Curse of High Expectations" is what I'm thinking right now.

Whose fault is that? You write a series that gains momentum over 10 years, you're bound to have praise and critics.

[Gardna]

Aquamarine, on Aug 19 2007, 11:57 AM, said:

Hey, what ever happened to Fudge anyway? He didn't appear in the last book at all, and I remember him talking to the Muggle Prime Minister(Tony Blair, in other words) in the first chapter of Half-Blood Prince. Did he get killed in that book or something? I can't remember...

If I remember it correctly, he had to resign after Voldemort's great comeback at the Ministry. I never liked him much anyway.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, I remember that, but that doesn't really explain his sudden and complete disappearance in Deathly Hallows. His name only once appeared in the whole book.

[Gardna]

Aquamarine, on Aug 21 2007, 11:14 AM, said:

Yeah, I remember that, but that doesn't really explain his sudden and complete disappearance in Deathly Hallows. His name only once appeared in the whole book.

There was probably no need for him to appear anymore, he wasn't very important anyway.

[My Best Wishes]

Where?
*All Filler no Killer*

[Gardna]

watch, on Aug 21 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

Where?
*All Filler no Killer*

Eh, what do you mean?

[Sea of Time]

It's a Sum 41 reference...but only Canadians or fans of the band would know that.

[Gardna]

Including Bryan Adams (:
According to wiki it's the 'Sum 41's best selling album to date', though I have no idea how is it related to HP.

[My Best Wishes]

It's actually all Killer no Filler, but I just included it so my post wasn't only one word. Hence 'filler' came first.

[Caael]

Eurgh. The Deathly Hallows was horrible. It was the most contrived book I have ever read.

Spoiler

Oh look a sword in ice, i'll jump in and get it. Oh no! I'm dying, but I bet Ron will save me, like he always does in tight situations.

OMG! Red hot, multiplying treasure! Gosh, what an obstacle! Oh look, a conviniently placed dragon that we make our escape on. Lucky we know a spell that makes things a lot bigger, so we break out


Oh, yeah, i'm not dead, Dumbledor is just telling me how to win and defeat voldemort, so its all good.

Oh yay, I win because love always prevails!

Eurgh.

[Julian]

I just got the book a week ago here in China since it was all sold out in Canada *rolls eyes* (damn those hardcore harry potter fans...).

Honestly, I cant say that I was completely and utterly disappointed beyond repair or anything. I actually liked the whole Snape thing and everything else was pretty... okay. I probably would've enjoyed it a lot more if i was a lot younger.

I personally thought a lot of the deaths were extremely random and most of the time, too fast. They all happened waay too suddenly. The whole incident when Fred dies made me kinda go blank cuz i didnt know how da hell it happened until i reread that part again.

I also didnt like how Hermione and Ron didnt do jack at the climax of the book. Other than that, the highlight of my disappointment is...

Bellatrix getting defeated by a house-witch.

[Eugine]

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Bellatrix getting defeated by a house-witch.

I really agree with you. Come on, I like Molly and all, but killing Bellatrix? The woman who is responsible for so much evil? I'm sure she was the second most powerful Death Eater and probably Voldemorth most precious servant.

Killed by a 'house-witch' which hasn't performed curses in probably ages. Haven't fought in ages. I doubt even immense love of her Children could allow her to do such an act. Come on, Molly killing? <__< ... It just didn't fit in with the Molly I knew for 6 books.

[My Best Wishes]

Now that someone mentions it, that is a good point. I was just wrapped in the fact that Molly said Bitch.
Surely Malfoy or someone would have been more powerfull then Bellatrix? She spent years in Azkaban.

[Aquamarine]

I got the impression that Snape and Bellatrix were the two most powerful Death Eaters.

[My Best Wishes]

Snape over Malfoy? But Malfoy was still in the community and doing as he pleased, where as we learnt that Snape was actually a good guy, so wouldn't that have limited his dark magic? (Patronus changing etc)

[Aquamarine]

Sure, he was a good guy, but that doesn't mean he was weaker than the other Death Eaters. He was always in love with the Dark Arts and knew Dark Magic really well. He didn't exactly have a good personality... And Voldemort trusted him greatly, whereas Lucius Malfoy made blunder after blunder.

[Sea of Time]

I like the fact that at the end of it all, I actually found Snape to be a likable character. That chapter where Harry is in Snape's memory was probably one of the best in the book.

[Julian]

lol, yeah but the thing with me is, i never really disliked snape or anything =\ I guess it might just be because i was never too fond of harry that much.

Honestly, when Dumbledore was pimping the hell out of him in end, i found myself constantly rolling my eyes. It seriously made me cringe when he claimed Harry as the supposed true "master" of the hollows. I mean, yeah he is the rightful master of the cloak and perhaps the elder wand but the resurrection stone? Im sure he would've used it in a heartbeat if he had gotten his hands on it earlier. Seriously it has nothing to do with "self sacrifice". I seriously have a problem with Dumbledore praising Harry in every single book. Everything seems so sugar coated. :D

[My Best Wishes]

Yea Rowling always said Harry was no saint but he never really did anything too bad, except for 2 of the unforgivable curses but who cares.

[Aquamarine]

She didn't mean that Harry did bad things, just that he had an attitude and a high opinion of himself. No one's perfect.

[My Best Wishes]

Aquamarine, on Sep 4 2007, 01:24 AM, said:

She didn't mean that Harry did bad things, just that he had an attitude and a high opinion of himself. No one's perfect.

I'm very tempted to post the O RLY Owl.
I don't think he thought highly of himself, that was one of the faults Snape had with him and he always debated it.

[Aquamarine]

I actually think he did have a high opinion of himself. Not overly high though. Just higher than some other mortal would. I mean, in all seven books he kept pitying himself and kept complaining how nothing goes his way and his life is miserable and stuff. Which was often quite true, but he often acted like he was the only one who had problems.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Sep 4 2007, 05:16 PM, said:

I actually think he did have a high opinion of himself. Not overly high though. Just higher than some other mortal would. I mean, in all seven books he kept pitying himself and kept complaining how nothing goes his way and his life is miserable and stuff. Which was often quite true, but he often acted like he was the only one who had problems.

So he's an emo then? :o
I guess you could say that he spends time thinking about himself but I wouldn't say he thought only he had problems.

[Someone Else]

Harry has a larger burden on him than other people could honestly say. With that said, Harry dealt with these things better than, I'm sure, other characters in the book could. Keep in mind though, Harry may have magic, but he's still human and has to deal with his personal problems just like anybody else.

[My Best Wishes]

I thought he was a whiny ***** for a lot of the series.
'Oh my parents are dead, Snape hates me, I get into fights with my best friend.'
Really, for the chosen one who would rival the greatest (?) wizard ever, he sure was a bit of a brat.

[Julian]

watch, on Sep 5 2007, 01:43 AM, said:

I thought he was a whiny ***** for a lot of the series.
'Oh my parents are dead, Snape hates me, I get into fights with my best friend.'
Really, for the chosen one who would rival the greatest (?) wizard ever, he sure was a bit of a brat.

lol! my sentiments exactly!

[Caael]

I'm going to sum up the last book. Spoilers, but I assume everybody has read it now

' Oh yay, back at the house. Oh look! Wizards! Lets go to rons house for a wedding!

Oh no! she killed a main character off for no apparant reason!

Oh look, wedding crashers! They've come to kill us all!

Yay, lets go on a giant treasure hunt around the conurty!

Oh no, i'm drowning. But no worries! My friend who deserted me randomly will find me and save me!

Oh no! Another useless plot device. Oh look, the elf died, again, for no apparant reason!

Oh look, a convenient place for a dragon, guarding treasure.

Oh crap! The treasure is burning hot and multiplies Holy Shiznit, that is not contrived at all!

Lets escape on that conveniently placed dragon.

Oh no, war at the school! Lets go, friends! Oh no, another contrived part! Malfoy must have a tracker to follow me around! And another dead character, but fortunately, it destroyed one of those treasures we've been looking for to destroy! Hoorah!

Oh no, yet again another pointless death. Why, god, why?!

Oh look, a hall brimming with people who died. This sure is disturbing.

I know, lets give myself up to save the others. I'm so selfless!

Crap! He killed me. Wait, i'm not dead.

Lets have a conversation with my dead headmaster about how powerful I am, and how I am the true king of everything. Yes! I can win!

Damn, i'm being framed by some snake dude. Not to worry, my cowardly friend will gain courage and kill the final treasure! Yay!

And i'm back to life, and i'm fighting the snake guy!

Meanwhile, my friend's mum just killed somebody, for no apparant reason. Again. Totally out of her character, but not to worry, people will still find it funny.

Yay! I beat the snake guy! Lets fastforwards my life to where I live with a ginger, and my 2 best friends got married. Wow, I did NOT see that coming.'





No, I did not like the book.

[Ironsight]

lol, best summary ive ever heard
i agree, it was kinda random at some parts

[Caael]

It was just so contrived! Grr, it makes me angry.

[Aquamarine]

I agree it was very "coincidental", but it was very good nonetheless. One of the very best HP books.

[Someone Else]

Caael, on Sep 8 2007, 07:07 AM, said:

It was just so contrived!

You like that word a lot... there were a lot of plot devices, but I still like how everything fit together pretty well It could have been worse.

[Moonear]

BUMP, I don't wanna make a new topic.

I love the Harry Potter books, but the movies absolutely suck. The Goblet of Fire is my favorite book out of the seven. The seventh book may have been random and stupid at some parts, but it was nonetheless a great book worth reading.

~200~

[Eugine]

Thinking back, imo
OoTP > DH > GOF > POA > COS > SS > HBP.

[SavageMoon]

The fifth movie made me mad because they skipped a whole lot of scenes, especially ones from within the Ministry of Magic. There was supposed to be a huge duel, which would have been awesome...and instead they did almost nothing.

The books are definitely a million times better.

[Folcon]

Consider how long the books are though. If the movies creators were to put everythin in the movie, the film would be up to, if not past, six hours long. Can you honestly say that you would sit in a movie theater that long to watch a movie? I wouldn't.

[Eugine]

Neither would I.
imo, OoTP was the best HP movie. I really enjoyed it. Umbridge was fantastic.

[Someone Else]

I remember enjoying PoA the most, and I remember liking the movie for it too. Don't really remember watching the movie for OotP, so it must not have been that great.

[SavageMoon]

No, I wouldn't want to sit in there for a really long time, I just think they could have spent a bit more time on the Ministry part. They could have added maybe ten more minutes. It would have showed how they all have grown into better wizards (especially Neville, since he plays an important role in helping the others). Oh well, as long as they include all the important parts in the seventh movie I won't mind as much. I guess I just had greater expectations for the books.

[Caael]

They did cut a lot from the MoM. I remember a bit with some brain things in the book, which sucked on Rons face or something. I dunno, it was 3 years ago I think now.

[SavageMoon]

Yeah, there were brain things with tentacles that attacked Ron, a spell that made Neville's nose bleed like mad, Ginny broke her ankle, some crazy spell hit Hermione and even more, but those are the ones I remember. That's pretty good considering I haven't read it in a few years :D

[Aquamarine]

.eugine, on Dec 1 2007, 11:28 PM, said:

Thinking back, imo
OoTP > DH > GOF > POA > COS > SS > HBP.

GoF > HBP > DH > PoA > CoS > SS(PS) > OoTP

[Moonear]

DH>GoF>HBP>PoA>SS>CoS>OoTP

[Neon]

OotP > DH > GoF > PoA > PS > CoS > HBP

[Saturos S.]

HBP > GoF> PS > DH > CoS > OotP > PoA

[Neon]

I know of other HBP fans too. What exactly do you guys see in the book? >>
All I see is a poorly constructed 'mystery' trying to be like the first few books but failing to interest. Then there's the terrible ending too. It just seems like a filler book to me, trying to set up the plot for the 7th book...

[Ironsight]

I thought the last book was terrible...

[Saturos S.]

The end was lame.

Spoiler

Hey, I've got kids. O wow, I gave them lame names too. SUCKZORS BALLS! "What was that dad?" "nothing some crap about my scar.

I liked HBP the best because.... I found the history in it the most fascinating.

Now that I think about it, GoF was probably better.

[Golden Legacy]

GoF was definitely one of the better books - the reason why it's my favorite (after PoA) is that it finally opened up the true scale of the Wizarding World - The Quidditch World Cup. The two rival European schools. The politics and workings of the Ministry of Magic. It really was the first time that I felt that Harry's story mattered more than just solving some puzzles on Hogwarts soil, that it had a larger and more influential impact.

[Ironsight]

Sorcerer's (Philosopher's) Stone was my favorite. GoF being my second. I also liked PoA because it showed the possiblility that Harry might have some relatives left.

[My Best Wishes]

Neon, on Dec 17 2007, 11:05 PM, said:

I know of other HBP fans too. What exactly do you guys see in the book? >>
All I see is a poorly constructed 'mystery' trying to be like the first few books but failing to interest. Then there's the terrible ending too. It just seems like a filler book to me, trying to set up the plot for the 7th book...

I would say the same about OoTP

Not sure If I've posted mine,

HPB>POA>DH>GOF>CoS>SS>OoTP

I remember POA being my favourite for ages, but HBP really set the stage for the final book, it gave Harry Potter some meaning other then just finishing School.

[kate]

asdh>afd>hpds>nim

k but really last book was so awesome until the twenty years later thing or whatever. okokok who cried when we saw the snape flashbacks?! *raises hand* just me? i'm a loser? ok then.

aaand my life was also completely overturned when i found out dumbledore was ***. i mean, it was a cool plot twist, but he spent waaay too much time alone with harry. goblet of fire was easily the best book though, followed by PoA. other than that they're all just awesome but not quite as much so.

Personally I can't believe it's over. I was raised with those books. When I turned 11 i totally wanted a letter :D turns out i'm not magic <.< darn

[My Best Wishes]

kate, on Dec 24 2007, 08:09 AM, said:

asdh>afd>hpds>nim

Am I missing something?

[Saturos S.]

I know I am... crappy translations?

[Eugine]

Awesome news!
I hope 10 years turn to 5, then to 3! I really miss the Harry Potter universe ;_;

[My Best Wishes]

How can it be a Harry Potter novel if Harry Potter isn't the central character?

[kate]

Haha see people say she has billions so she's done with it, but she's like us, she's grown all attached n.n

But I know what you mean eugine, it seems weird to be living in a world without Harry Potter craze o.O I sound sooo lame

[Sea of Time]

I think the story's done and if she wants to continue writing, she should do so in ways away from the whole "magical world" deal.

[Aquamarine]

Seriously, I think she should do something new. As much as I love HP, seven books were enough.

[Eugine]

She's writing two new series.

I really do not want another book which surrounds Harry, I just want a book within the same 'universe'

[Moonear]

As long as some of the old characters from the other books are minor characters, I'll be happy.

[kate]

Alright then I'm just a loser fanatic who can never have enough Harry Potter.

At least with any other series she writes you know the writing's going to be good. Of course the true brilliance of Harry Potter was in the concepts as well, so I doubt it will be as good.

...I miss Harry Potter :) now I just have to wait for the movies to slaughter the rest of the books and then it's all over.

[Eugine]

Kate I do too ^^. I doubt any of her new books will be as successful as Harry Potter. Yes, I give her credit for bringing out the universe so vividely, but imo, there is something distinct about the world she created that is impossible to replicate. I honestly hope I am wrong though.

[Drizzy Drake]

Marjor spoilers. Don't read if you don't want the book ruined.

Spoiler

Voldemort dies, Harry lives. Hehe.