[Someone Else]

There is news speading around of a new console to be developed by Nintendo, yet there is no news about this on Nintendos Official Site. Unfortunately, Nintendo does not want to release much information for fear of Sony stealing there idea. What are your thoughts on this?

Find out more here: Nintendo Revolution

[Andross]

Old news. IGN already reported on this. ATI and IBM are involved (from what it looks like); IBM will possibly be putting dual G5s in there, or a single 2.7GHz G5. It will be implicating a new way to play games (like the DS will do), but nothing has been said otherwise.

http://cube.ign.com/....html?fromint=1

[Golden Legacy]

Ahh, I thought I'd make this topic to discuss anything about future Video Game Consoles, namely the Xbox Next (codename: Xenon), the Nintendo Console known as Revolution, and Sony's PlayStation 3, known as... PlayStation 3 (meh).

So... yeah...

Edit: Sorry if another topic was made about them... I couldn't find it (I found one on the Revolution, a seperate topic with only one post and really old...)...

~~1111~~

[Eugine]

I'm going with the PS3, but its so obvious it all comes down on the games you like again, people here like Nintendo, so Revolution will win here.

[Golden Legacy]

Well, you're right- Revolution for me (but afterwards, I do plan on eventually getting PS3...)...

As of now, it's difficult to conclude anything about the actual technology involved- Sony has a new Cell Processor, and the Xenon's chips, I think, are being made by IBM... and one other that I forgot... And seeing the Nintendo's daring plans for the DS, you can't help but wonder what's in store for us ;)

[Echo_djinn]

nitendos revolotion will be like PS2 while PS3 will become like a whole new thing but i dont know if the will call is PS3.

[Iloverpgs]

Don't know, but I can't wait :mellow:

That's all I have to say heh.

[BloodPhoenix]

ent got a clue, but one thing i do no is tht i'm gettin a psp as soon as they are out! lol

[Izar]

Which ever comes out first, I guess. I dunno, but they all seem cool.

[Golden Legacy]

Nintendo's successor to the GameCube is shrouded in mystery, albeit a few enigmatic quotes from the Big N itself. As President Satoru Iwata stated, this system will offer a distinct, new form of gaming never [truly] experienced before.

Many speculate that it will feature Gyration technology, and rumors abound about its sweet technology (I will post it soon enough).

I for one, seeing the Nintendo's daring plans for the DS, especially, can't wait for Revolution =D

So, comments? ideas? etc...

[The Postman]

Sounds cool. Too bad I'm not getting any more consoles after I'm done with my GC. I might have been interested, but everything seems to cost so much more now, like the Nintendo DS for instance, 150 USD?! I'm in Canada, it'll cost even more here. Considering it is a portable and compact system, that doesn't mean the successor to the GC will cost that much more, but still.

[Silo STATIC]

I decided that this should be pinned, on the count of the pending of future consoles may cause great in-depth discussion. I support this whole-heartedly, and hopefully more future comments, ideas and assumptions will be added in tribute to the new consoles that are coming out soon. Keep this topic alive and well.

[Golden Legacy]

And so it shall. Thanks Silo B)

I'm obviously a Nintendo Freak... err, Fan, but here's something interesting about Sony's PS3- its cell processor will not only be used in the console, but in other Sony products and appliances as well. Through your PS3, you could connect to ANYTHING with the cell processor, meaning you can link multiple PS3's, download footage to a Sony Camcorded, or even make toast on the corresponding high-tech toaster!

Oh yeah, and I forgot- it plays games too o.O

[Linear]

^.^ Who doesn't like Nintendo? B) Videogames are so much fun to play!

[gsninja]

I read an article on the newspaper stating that the DS will be released on 11/21. Nintendo wants to release it just in time for the crucial shopping season.

[Kikuichimonji]

I've heard that too

For me, I can't wait for all of them to come out (apart from the Xbox one, die Xbox!), because then I can analyse the sheer technological differences between the 2 giants, sony and nintendo, and how much they have improved...

[The Postman]

Micerosoft wants to buy Nintendo...
WOE THE DaY THAT HAPPENS! I hope it doesn't cause then it'll be goodbye to the good old days.
Anyways, I'm waiting to see waht the DS is like, one of my friends is getting it for sure.
Anyone know exactly what the DS will be able to do apart from playing games?

[Kikuichimonji]

nya not sure, not doing my research nowadays, MICROSOFT BUYING NINTENDO? oh I how I hate microsoft taking over everywhere!!

[Golden Legacy]

That is not true (hopefully). It was simply a "business joke" that Bill Gates had made at a conference. Otherwise, I would be in a coma right now.

Now, let's get back on topic, please.

[Kikuichimonji]

Sorry about that...I would like to see if any of the consoles are different in what the games for the console are formatted in... unless they are sticking to CD's

[Blade Lord Lyn]

Well. . .

I'll buy whichever one has the newest FE, jk.

Seriously though, it's gameplay that would actually count. I'm not going to buy a video game console if it has all these special features and barely any games.

Come on, I already have a CD and DVD player.

[Kikuichimonji]

hmmm, it's like the big N himself said, people are more interested in a good game rather than special effects and graphics...no what I mean is as it is, GBA games are in cartridge form, GC and PS2 are in CD format, will they "improve" on that, that's all

[Golden Legacy]

Yes, Gameplay is the true essence of gaming... something that Nintendo has far and throughout stayed true to. Unfortunately, nowadays, it's all about graphics and such...

New DS DATA:
United States Release: November 21, 2004
Japan release: December 2 or 3
Europe/Austrailia: Sometime in 2005

To be released with DEMO of Metroid Prime: Hunters and Pictochat, joy yes.

[Echo_djinn]

GL the new DS News has the US, Japan, Europe and Australia but what about Canada?

Realy Iam starting to get A little tired of getting new Nintendo system when I just got a GC and a Xbox. I wait until the prices go down but when I wait for that I get my hands on one a new system comes out which bugs the HECK out of me. Anyways if there is a new Nintendo system I might as well just wait to get it as soon as possible.(Now how much do I got saved in my piggy bank 1 penny 2 pennies 3.......)

[NuMou Sniper]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 29 2004, 11:18 AM, said:

Yes, Gameplay is the true essence of gaming... something that Nintendo has far and throughout stayed true to. Unfortunately, nowadays, it's all about graphics and such...

New DS DATA:
United States Release: November 21, 2004
Japan release: December 2 or 3
Europe/Austrailia: Sometime in 2005

To be released with DEMO of Metroid Prime: Hunters and Pictochat, joy yes.

THe Japan release date is set for December 6th. If Microsoft ever bought Nintendo. I would probably protest and start a bunch of riots everywhere. Then if Microsoft resisted my attempts to get back our original Nintendo I'd probabaly die from shock.

But on a lighter note I can't wait for the DS to come out and the Revolution. I am a Nintendo FREAK. Like they said in this months issue of Nintendo Power. "Playstation 2 eats little children and X-Box would give you brain trauma if dropped on your head." lol

[The Postman]

How true...
Anyways, nah, I'm sticking to my good old gamecube. I just hope the Revolution doesn't come out too soon, that way the games will keep coming my way.
And Microsoft said they would like to buy Nintendo, if such an opportunity presented itself. IT WON'T HAPPEN. Thank the lord too.

[ForteGX]

I think it's a bit early to be considering all these new systems and such. But I agree with the Postman; I don't want to see these new systems for a while; I love my GCN, and I'd hate to see it become obsolete so soon.

[NuMou Sniper]

The Postman, on Sep 29 2004, 08:52 PM, said:

How true...
Anyways, nah, I'm sticking to my good old gamecube. I just hope the Revolution doesn't come out too soon, that way the games will keep coming my way.
And Microsoft said they would like to buy Nintendo, if such an opportunity presented itself. IT WON'T HAPPEN. Thank the lord too.

ForteGX, on Sep 29 2004, 09:13 PM, said:

I think it's a bit early to be considering all these new systems and such.  But I agree with the Postman; I don't want to see these new systems for a while; I love my GCN, and I'd hate to see it become obsolete so soon.

I wouldnt like the new systems to come out for a while also. So I agree with both of you and my sources tell me Revolution wont be out till 2006. For the record I treat my nintendo systems like royalty. lol ;)

[Kikuichimonji]

Lol, N64, I <3 you

I see your point but I think it's a good sign that systems are being made quicker

[The Postman]

Not necessarily, it just means they wanna make more money by making people buy the new systems and games, that's it really. But if the Revolution ended up being able to play GCN games, that would be great. Though I still wouldn't get it. :D

[Echo_djinn]

Man with Halo 2 coming out and A new Xbox system on the horizon I just dont know what to do like if HAlo2 does come out they should wait a while before revealing the next Xbox system because I know alot of people will be after this game. (half of my schoool talks about it and I just don't mean the gamefreaks out there)

[The Postman]

It's that bad? At my place practically no one talks about any XBox games, just PC and the rare PS2. And the even rarer GameCube, basically just me and my friend. :wub:
Anyways, I'm really curious about how these systems will operate considering all the stuff they wanna put in them.

[Nemphtis]

Sorry, since I'm only at the forums for a brief period, I'm not reading any of the latest posts, but will like to point out a few things just for those who may not know, Revolution may not support 3rd Party developer's, and the codename for the second Xbox is not Xbox-Next, it's Xenon. <_<

Also there's another Handheld coming out soon that was displayed at gaming expo's called the Gizmondo, but it doesn't look like it's going to be as big a player as Ninty or Sony. check it out if you want though, www.gizmondo.com

[Silo STATIC]

Um ... so? Who cares?

Anyway, since I'm forced to, XBox Next has been renamed Xenon.

[Meglo]

I really think it's alot wiser to wait until the have an official release date-- it's too early for me to judge, as I don't like choosing on vague hints and rumors from the companies and players. I'm going to start researching once we have some solid information and the systems have been created/tested/reviewed, but not yet released. Then I'll decide.

I've always been a Nintendo fan myself, if that counts for anything.

[Nemphtis]

Silo STATIC, on Oct 9 2004, 03:24 AM, said:

Um ... so? Who cares?

Anyway, since I'm forced to, XBox Next has been renamed Xenon.

I guess Max didn't put Manners in Moderator requirements. I posted the information for your conveniance, not so I can see you whine about being wrong. And feel free to called the Xenon "Xbox Next", I'm not holding a gun to your head.

Meglo, on Oct 9 2004, 03:41 AM, said:

I really think it's alot wiser to wait until the have an official release date-- it's too early for me to judge, as I don't like choosing on vague hints and rumors from the companies and players. I'm going to start researching once we have some solid information and the systems have been created/tested/reviewed, but not yet released. Then I'll decide.

I've always been a Nintendo fan myself, if that counts for anything.

Well said, Nintendo and Sony are promising us alot of things, but until we get a solid play of each handheld we can't be sure, and in the end neither of them will be the best since it depends on your prefernce, clearly both handhelds are pretty different from eachother.

[Golden Legacy]

Well, I originally created the poll and I put “Microsoft Xenon (Xbox 2)”, so I guess it’s my fault, sorry.

Quote

Revolution may not support 3rd Party developer's

That is incorrect, Anubis. Back in late 2002/2003, Nintendo stated that it had approached certain developers for new titles for the Revolution, and a few of these third-party developers also supported it.

Nintendo is asking them to remain quiet about their titles, as simply put they don’t want to risk revealing the technology behind the Revolution.

The only confirmed game so far is “Mario 128”, but, THE GOOD NEWS is that Nintendo has stated that launching with the Revolution will include some of their best: Mario, Link, Samus, Star Fox, Kirby, etc.

RUMOUR has it that Super Smash Brothers 3 may also be a launch title!!!!

ABOUT MICROSOFT: this time around, they are focusing on software titles. Elder Scrolls IV and Dark Sector are two games that have been announced for Xenon. And Microsoft has hinted that…

HALO 3 may be released ON THE DAY THAT SONY PLANS ON RELEASING THE PS3!!!

-_-

[Nemphtis]

An article was posted on the Gaming Vortex Forums that I did some extra research on that showed Ninty are thinking about not allowing third party developer support, since your news is dated it could be they have changed their mind, or maybe it's just rumour. *Shrugs* Yup, trust Nintendo to use Mario, Sonic etc. as their spearheads. -_-

"We're releasing the Nintendo DS 2, so far games announced is Mario6235 and Sonic Classic which has all the classic Sonic games in one, the other Third party games can be announced later when we're bothered!" XP

[Sea of Time]

PSP! Woohoo, why bother with the DS's bad graphics (N64-like) when the PSP has the same graphics, or close, to the PS2? If you want a touch screen or wireless chat, buy a cell phone, they're a lot cheaper! :mellow:

[Nemphtis]

Graphics don't make you have fun, they just make you saw wow.

Gameplay makes you have fun, and say wow.

[Chaos Daemon]

Echo_djinn, on Aug 10 2004, 09:25 PM, said:

nitendos revolotion will be like PS2 while PS3 will become like a whole new thing but i dont know if the will call is PS3.

How will Revolution be like PS2 when Gamecube is superior technologically to the PS2 in every way? Oh and take your time next time ED you made some spelling mistakes. ;)

To the topic creator: The DS in Nintendo DS stands for Developers System, not Dual-Screen

[Golden Legacy]

I repeat:It was I who created this topic/poll (it merged with a few other topics). Originally, I had put just the Home Consoles (Revolution, PS3, Xenon), and Silo graciously added the DS and PSP to the Poll after I asked him to merge/pin the topics together (thanks again :))

THE DS NO LONGER STANDS FOR ANYTHING – Yes, Nintendo had originally considered it to stand for Dual Screen or Developer’s System, but they decided to keep DS since it sounds, how can I say, simply cool.

Besides, it gives freedom for different names, such as the two mentioned before.

REVOLUTION WILL PWN ALL!!!!

[Neon]

Nintendo isn't stupid enough to not allow 3rd party developers. PS2 and Xbox live off their 3rd party games, and they are beating the crap out of the GCN.

IGN had an article recently about the formats of the new consoles. Sony are using Blu-ray ( i think that's the name :mellow:) and Nintendo and Microsoft are still undecided. Blu-ray is one of the new formats made to replace DVDs, it can store heaps more data, and movies will be of much higher quality.

Apparently they're planning that the ps3 will jumpastart the blu-ray format. If it can only play blu-ray discs, then people will have to buy blu-ray movies if they plan on watching movies on their ps3.

Read the article, it explains it so much better than I do :D.

[Golden Legacy]

Hmm... I prefer HD-DD (or however it's written), for some strange reason... I'll have to reread that article again to support it...

I'm gonna go with whatever Nintendo comes up with :mellow:

[Mallick]

I chose the Nintendo DS.....because well, if GS3 came out, thats what it would be on!

[Neon]

Yeah, DS is has me the most interested. PS3 and Xenon or whatever it's called will just be more powerful than the current ones, and the Revolution... i'm not sure what to think yet.

They better release a strategy game on the DS. The touch screen would make it possible to play RTSs on the DS.

[Golden Legacy]

Advance Wars DS has been officially confirmed. Check out IGN or www.ds-insider.net

-_- sweetness

[Echo_djinn]

Golden Legacy, on Oct 12 2004, 09:07 PM, said:

Advance Wars DS has been officially confirmed. Check out IGN or www.ds-insider.net

:) sweetness

Nice.... yeah so Iam wondering if there will be a FE game for the DS(most likely yes) Do you know? Also what price is the DS right now?

[NuMou Sniper]

Sea_of_Time, on Oct 9 2004, 07:14 PM, said:

PSP! Woohoo, why bother with the DS's bad graphics (N64-like) when the PSP has the same graphics, or close, to the PS2? If you want a touch screen or wireless chat, buy a cell phone, they're a lot cheaper! :)

Anyways the DS will NOT have bad graphics. The graphics i heard were between N64 and Dreamcast. Also like it was said earlier graphics dont make the game, gameplay does. Then again that's my opinion but the DS will have good graphics.

[Silo STATIC]

I second NuMou. Graphics don't make the game what it is, it's the gameplay (replay value, gaming genre, etc.) and creativity that goes into that counts.

[Elliott]

Whats the nintendo revolution?
Is Xenon Xbox 2?
I will get the next gameboy, I'm not really a huge console boy, I like my handhelds :) .

[Golden Legacy]

Nintendo Revolution- Enigmatic successor to GameCube that will supposedly offer something distinct and "revolutionalize" gaming (hence the codename :angry:)

Xenon is Microsoft's Xbox Two.

The next Game Boy (working name, GameBoy Evolution) will appear in 2006 (I will post more on it later...)

[Silo STATIC]

But ... wait, the next GBA is the DS. That just leaves me to think that you're at least a bit screwed-up there ... :blink:;;;

[Echo_djinn]

What iam with Silo here DS is the next gameboy right? Well they said it wasn't suppose to be a replacement for the SP. Man there making these new handheld come out to fast. Let the people enjoy the system for a while jeez :joy:

[Nemphtis]

Hm, does anyone have anymore news on the PS3's Blu-Ray choice?

[Golden Legacy]

*sigh*

To Silo and Echo Djinn: The answer is NO.

The Nintendo DS is a COMPLETELY SEPARATE system, just as the GameCube and GBA are. Nintendo is calling it its "Third Pillar".

The DS was given the backward compatibility with the GBA because
A.) It's quite an advantage for a company that's dominated the handheld market for fifteen years
B.) DS games can read data from that GBA slot, meaning that (this is sweet) a developer could theoretically create numerous levels for a game just by switiching the gba cartridges- heck, they could even make one huge memory card.

THIS means that years into the future, we may see something as the "DS Advance": IN OTHER WORDS, consider this:

Nintendo has three things working for them:
The Home Console (Currently GameCube, Revolution is the successor)
The Portable Gaming "Traditional"System: (GameBoy Advance/SP- successor is the GameBoy Evolution)
Portable Innovation- The DS

BUT, you are correct, Echo Djinn, in saying that Nintendo is moving too fast. Nintendo is moving ahead with the IDEA that the DS will not interfere with the GBA's sales, and let's be honest, the SP is pretty much the number one selling portable device.

*whew*

[Nemphtis]

They have three things working for them but not all are selling well and one isn't even out yet. The GBA is their only noticable success recently. I respect Nintendo for 2 things, Gameboy, and SNES. That's all they deserve respect for.

Of course for those that are hard at understanding most (If not all) of what Anubis has posted is opinion based.

[Golden Legacy]

Oh wait, that was an opinion, Anubis?
*hides evil-looking weapon*

There are two reasons why the GameCube failed, in comparison with the PS2 at least:

A.) Lackluster 3rd Party Support- this was especially true for the N64, and it remained so for the beginning of the GC's life. Nintendo's president, Satoru Iwata, has done a good job of fixing it. Consider Capcom's Resident Evil franchise and the Zelda GameBoy games, Namco's Soul Caliber II (with special character Link in the GC version), Square-Enix returned since the fabled days of the Snes (*sigh*), and of course, good ol' Camelot =D

B.) Release Date- after the PSone's incredible success, Nintendo should have not given Sony a chance to release the PS2 earlier, to give it an advantage that it would never overcome.

C.) Poor Marketing- ... meh

THERE are other factors, but that's generally it. Nintendo has stated that Revolution will address these issues and achieve far more.

[Neon]

Hoping the relvolution isn't so oddball that it scares away all the potential buyers. We don't want another 'Virtual Boy' Nintendo! >_<

Nintendo will have to put a lot of effort into marketting if they're going to win back anyone. PS3 and Xenon already control most of the market.

In Australia, the PS2 and XBox were all over TV when they were released. The GCN only appeared with a list of kids toys for christmas!!

[Nemphtis]

And knowing next to nothing about the revolution, you are all speculating about the console?

Also, for B, it's not an advantage ro release a console before the rest, PS2 released a year before GC and XB, both machines had an advantage to be able to surpass the PS2 in specs, meaning that Sony's would be the first into the Market, but it would be the worst console Spec-wise out of all three. Now, Microsoft are planning to release their "Xenon" a good year ahead of Sony this time, but is that such a good idea if Sony comes crashing down on MS with a more powerful system when that was a huge advantage this year for XB?

I'm assuming you've all heard about that little battle between Sony and some other company that had patented the "Dual Shock" technology. MS did the good thing and paid a couple million, apologised about the misunderstanding and even bought a few Shares from the company, but Sony is putting up a fight and now have to pay double the ammount MS did, and they might not even get the Dual Shock feature since MS controls a part of the company now and could refuse. The point is the PS3 may not even have a dualshock feature.

Then there's the Blu-Ray case though, PS2 has that going fo them, and they have the means to make it mass-marketed on their own without any help if they wanted, I'm really looking forward to this new Era of CD technology.

Like I said, SNES and GameBoy are all fine, but Nintendo needs to fix themselves up before they begin crumbling like Sammy Studios.

[Neon]

i think nintendo need to incorperate online capablities and movies/music. I know that that isn't the point of a console, and i agree completely. But let's face it, that's what the general populous want, why else was the PS2 such a massive massive massive success? It was marketed on television as being the best home entertainment unit, as it had all three mediums in one.

Marketing has everything to do with it. Many are still convinced that PS2 has cutting edge technology and graphics. Don't say that these people are stupid, because 90% of the market know nothing about console specs, and go only by the marketing campains and what's 'all the rage' at the time :rolleyes:.

[Someone Else]

Dual Screen for me, my parents are evil and I doubt they will buy me a console.

[Nemphtis]

Well if they're willing to buy you a handhel which will probably be more expensive than a Microsoft Xbox or a PS2, then think of how odd that kinda sounds. :rolleyes:

[Echo_djinn]

Neon, on Oct 19 2004, 10:30 AM, said:

i think nintendo need to incorperate online capablities and movies/music. I know that that isn't the point of a console, and i agree completely. But let's face it, that's what the general populous want, why else was the PS2 such a massive massive massive success? It was marketed on television as being the best home entertainment unit, as it had all three mediums in one.

Marketing has everything to do with it. Many are still convinced that PS2 has cutting edge technology and graphics. Don't say that these people are stupid, because 90% of the market know nothing about console specs, and go only by the marketing campains and what's 'all the rage' at the time :rolleyes:.

Very nice I see your point but wouldn't it look like nintendo was just copying off of Sony. That would not look good on them now would it. They would need to some up with something new for there next system like the DS with its dual screen.

[Nemphtis]

Knowing how Ninty are obsessed with being different they could never bring themselves to copy Sony. :rolleyes:

If it's going to please the gamers, why not do it. Besides Microsoft's XNA idea required the console's to be a little similar and from the idea's they put forward for the XNA project it seemed like a perfectly good idea. :)

lol I doubt anyone has even heard about the XNA project here for obvious reasons. XP

[Echo_djinn]

Anubis, on Oct 19 2004, 11:13 AM, said:

Knowing how Ninty are obsessed with being different they could never bring themselves to copy Sony. :rolleyes:

If it's going to please the gamers, why not do it. Besides Microsoft's XNA idea required the console's to be a little similar and from the idea's they put forward for the XNA project it seemed like a perfectly good idea. :)

lol I doubt anyone has even heard about the XNA project here for obvious reasons. XP

You got me there I have know idea what XNA project it but I wonder if you know anything about it? You say Microsoft is making this right?

[Nemphtis]

Yeah it's old news but it's still in it's infant stages. To put it very plainly and leaving out all the details XNA was an idea Microsoft thought of to help developers create better games quicker and cheaper. :rolleyes:

[Echo_djinn]

So if thats the case will they only be putting it on the Xbox or the new xbox system? Or will they share their idea with the world so all the other companies get to make these better games for the regular guy who likes games.

[Nemphtis]

Like I said it's still in the baby stages of the plan and I researched this months ago so I can't remember all the details lol

I'm sure if you snoop around the net for XNA you'll find a few things. =)

[Neon]

they'l give them out as development kits for making xbox games, then the developers will turn around and use them for making nintendo/playstation games :blink:.
Only i'm sure M$ isn't stupid enough to make the same mistake twice :lol:.

[The Postman]

They'd most likely simply put in the contracts that they can only use it for Xbox. Whouldn't be the first time somethin gl ike that would have been done.

[Echo_djinn]

Yo people tell me that the next GTA game will not be able to be played on the PS2 because it 2dvds in one and the PS2 wont be able to hold it. So they decided to put it on the next PS system. Now I don't take to notice rumors but iam wondering if you heard this as well.

[Neon]

I've never heard that, but it sounds believable. If the game is very large and would be better suited for the next console, then why not develop it for that console instead. SFA style ;).

The blu-ray discs can hold a considerable amount more than the current discs :o.

[Golden Legacy]

Indeed, although I need to clarify something:

It's BLUE LASER technology, and the two dominant ones are the Blue Ray and the HD-DVD ^_^

Go Revolution :lol:

[Linear]

Revolution is good! Although.......... -.-;; a friend of mine has no clue in what revolution is... ^_^ :lol: -_-;;;;

[Golden Legacy]

Ahh, well, when it is released... Gaming will forever change, yup yup ^_^

[Neon]

erm, isn't Blu-ray the only one that uses a blue laser? Blu-ray is the name on the blue laser technology. HD-DVD still uses red, which isn't as good, but means that it's cheaper for companys to begin development of HD-DVDs.

Unless I'm confused, as usual :P.

[Tachyon360]

HD-DVD uses violet light. That allows it to read and write to standard DVDs as well as read and write higher density DVDs. Though Blu-Ray can hold a little more data, it's a lot more expensive and a lot less versatile. I'm betting that HD is going to win that format war, unless they go make yet another all-in-one combo drive.

Edit: XNA is finished. The XBOX was the end result. Microsoft made a PC-like console so that developers could create games on it with greater ease. Then again, I could be confusing XNA with a different Microsoft project, but I'm quite sure XNA led to the XBOX.

[TobiasMar]

I look forward to the Nintendo DS, and I hope it can play GBA games, if so, I will get it. :)

[Sol.Warrior]

Nintendo Revolution, hopefully with a GS3 at launch :)

jus messin, Nintendo seem to be winning the poll anyway

[Issac_Zero2]

Gimli the Great, on Oct 27 2004, 06:26 PM, said:

I look forward to the Nintendo DS, and I hope it can play GBA games, if so, I will get it. :huh:

It does play GBA games...
I will probaly get DS, if it does well and if I have enough money...

[My Best Wishes]

[quote name='Wind Dude' date='Aug 6 2004, 08:47 AM']
There is news speading around of a new console to be developed by Nintendo, yet there is no news about this on Nintendos Official Site. Unfortunately, Nintendo does not want to release much information for fear of Sony stealing there idea. What are your thoughts on this?

..........why would sony steal from nintendo? sony is so much bigger and better and more rich then ninteno,btw ds looks crap and big, big expensive paper wieght

[Echo_djinn]

It looks like the DS is out on the market now. SO who here has there hands on this new system?

[Elliott]

I'll wait for the Nintendo Evolution, (it's evolution, not revolution). The DS puts me off with it's stupid design. The dual screens, and flip top design annoys me.

The GBA had the best design of all IMO, give it a backlight and a screen cover, then thin it a little, and you have a perfect console.

[Ravenblade]

yeah to be honest the DS could have had a better design..

I honestly cannot wait for Nintendo's next one...have they released any important statments about it recently

[Golden Legacy]

The GameBoy Evolution? Not much, but check this site:

http://www.n-sider.c...p?articleid=296

Also deals with Revolution.

[Renagade Sol]

Ok this sounds like a load of !@#$ but I am hearing rumors in different places.....that nintendo is sorta down in ratings with the last generation of , consoles.......because they are working on something that will be at least 20 years ahead of all systems when realeased.......I am not sure on details but I heard a few things about textile.....and virtual reality....just a rumour....but I will help spreade it

[Ravenblade]

it would be impressive if they achieved something like that i must admit but if it was 20 years ahead of its time then dont you think the price would be very very high? I dont know if they would invest time in something that wasnt affordable...still if they could get something like that going at an affordable price then it would definately be a good thing

[Renagade Sol]

I dunno......Its just what i heard.....I hope it hapens cause that sounds awsome

[Mallick]

Do you know what's awesome? Proper spelling and grammar. <_<

Anyways.

I hear the DS has it's own, free, wireless, messenger service. Can anyone confirm/deny this? I am sure it is untrue, but you never know.

[Golden Legacy]

Pictochat is in fact a built-in messenger program. Up to sixteen people can join a "chatroom" (from 100+ feet in good, optimal conditions, although 30 is the minimal guaranteement) and exchange messages.

Bet it's really helpful in school :blink: I'm such an evil person...

[Tachyon360]

Hey, now that I think about it, PictoChat would be an awesome cheating tool. Most teachers don't know about the latest gadgets available (they're usually one step behind the students). If they don't know about PictoChat (and they won't), you can get away with it by saying, "It's just a Gameboy thingy."

Thanks for the idea. Too bad I don't have a DS.

[Sea of Time]

The DS is great with the stylus. I just can't see myself using my fingers for the lower touch screen.

[Manning sucks]

your finger dont touch it you use a stick thingy

[Nemphtis]

The more Anubis looks at the poll, the more he laughs. XD

[Silo STATIC]

Anubis, on Dec 9 2004, 02:29 PM, said:

The more Anubis looks at the poll, the more he laughs. XD

The more you make rude comments, the more you aren't welcome to the forums.

I've played the Metroid DS (can't remember the title) game at Wal-Mart the other day, and I tell you, it's that good for a handheld system with near-perfect 3D graphics, and great control.

[Golden Legacy]

^Same here. Speaking of the graphics, I found it VERY interesting how Nintendo utilized both screens for CG scenes, as noted in the opening presentation of Metroid Prime: Hunters, and when a level loads.

I got to try it out with the wrist pad, too, and it oddly enough felt like a "virtual analog stick".

And Anubis, I'm sure I know what you are referring to... please, it's simply uncalled for and unfair to others.

[Nemphtis]

Unfair? Look at the poll. Does that look "fair"? lmao

Oh and Silo, I'm sure your opinion is somewhat interesting to someone out there, but to me, it's garbage. =)

What's wrong with me thinking the poll is one-sided? Try making this poll in let say for example the Gamespy forums, or the CVG forums, or even the IGN forums if they have one. That's a place where there isn't just fanboys for one console, but fanboys of all sorts. Then this poll will truly be somewhat fair. =P

[Silo STATIC]

Anubis, on Dec 10 2004, 04:41 AM, said:

What's wrong with me thinking the poll is one-sided? Try making this poll in let say for example the Gamespy forums, or the CVG forums, or even the IGN forums if they have one. That's a place where there isn't just fanboys for one console, but fanboys of all sorts. Then this poll will truly be somewhat fair. =P

Well, I don't see it as unfair, seeing that there are more loyal Nintendo fans here than, well, any Xbox or PS2 fan. Besides, it's what they can afford. Money doesn't grow on trees, you know. =/

[Nemphtis]

Well do what I do. Get a J.O.B.

[Echo_djinn]

Since this site is a kid site more people would vote in favour of the new Nintendo Revolution system coming out. I personally Like PS and Xbox better but I don't have a PS2 so I have to side with the Xbox and GC.(I have both of those systems)

[Nemphtis]

I have all three systems, I like my Xbox the most due to it's Live services, but I actually like the Gamecube more than my PS2, sadly though it lacks a nice dose of games compared to the Xbox and PS2 so I only play Metroid on it.

[Silo STATIC]

Anubis, on Dec 11 2004, 06:35 PM, said:

Well do what I do. Get a J.O.B.

That's a difficult feat for anyone. I mean, you'd be driven nuts because your annyoing boss calls up and tells you to get down to work for no aparent reason. *points to the whiny and b****y Senior girl at his school who has a job.* =/

Anyway, I second ED, in saying that anyone here would rather settle over GameCube. Not that the Xbox and PS2 cult is left out.

[Someone Else]

I've got the Nintendo DS. Friggin' awesome. Me and my sis enjoy being in the PictoChat, drawing crazy faces and what not, then sending them to each other. ^_^

Metroid is awesome too, although I'm getting a bit bored of blasting stuff and rolling around in Training mode, but then, shooters aren't really my kind of genre. =/

What's really cool is playing your GBA games again in the DS. The DS has a better quality light then the SP did, bringing out the colors more. I even noticed a few special effects in GS that I never saw before, like how the backgroung flares purple when Sheba casts Storm Ray. However, you should remember to charge your DS before playing, because the DS will might make 'static' sounds while playing certain parts of sound effects and music when somewhat low on battery, which ends up sounding pretty strange.

I think it beats the PSP by a long shot, but then, PSP hasn't been released yet. We'll have to wait to see which is the best, although I think I'm pretty much settled.

[Silo STATIC]

Wind Dude, on Dec 26 2004, 03:02 AM, said:

I've got the Nintendo DS. Friggin' awesome. Me and my sis enjoy being in the PictoChat, drawing crazy faces and what not, then sending them to each other. :P

Metroid is awesome too, although I'm getting a bit bored of blasting stuff and rolling around in Training mode, but then, shooters aren't really my kind of genre. =/

What's really cool is playing your GBA games again in the DS. The DS has a better quality light then the SP did, bringing out the colors more. I even noticed a few special effects in GS that I never saw before, like how the backgroung flares purple when Sheba casts Storm Ray. However, you should remember to charge your DS before playing, because the DS will might make 'static' sounds while playing certain parts of sound effects and music when somewhat low on battery, which ends up sounding pretty strange.

I think it beats the PSP by a long shot, but then, PSP hasn't been released yet. We'll have to wait to see which is the best, although I think I'm pretty much settled.

Well, someone's really happy with the DS, and I'm glad to see that.

Although, I really don't think the move from small cartridges to thin cards was a healthy aspect for Nintendo, seeing that the PSP is going to use mini-discs instead, so it's improved the overall frame rate. I just hope Nintendo gets out of using cartridges soon, since it's beginning to seem too cliché.

[Someone Else]

Cartridges and cards seem more durable to me, plus, I think disks are the ones that are clichéd.

Heck, the only reason we use CDs as much as we do is because in the old days we were still used to playing those big records for those record players. =/

[o0Yo FLipsideR JQ0o]

I'm hoping nintendo would pull this off. i cant say what i want jsut yet, scicne I know lamost NOTHING about nintendos product. The other two are pretty good picks though.

I can say, the BNAD thing about it, is that it might be so uniqe, that games which would normally sell on all systems "like NFS Underground 2" might not be available to the revolution. I hope thats not the case.

[Echo_djinn]

I would rather see the cartridges stay rather then the dics and thin cards. It would be hard to keep the dics clean and not loose the cards. the cartridges are pretty big and I can't really loose them.

[Someone Else]

Echo_djinn, on Dec 27 2004, 05:08 PM, said:

I would rather see the cartridges stay rather then the dics and thin cards. It would be hard to keep the dics clean and not loose the cards. the cartridges are pretty big and I can't really loose them.

See, ED has another point. Cards and cartridges are just as good as disks, you have to keep disks clean and unscratced, whilst the most common danger to your cartridge or card is getting dust on/in it, which can be fixed by blowing on/in it. (not recommended in the Instruction Booklet, though)

And, about the losing cards thing, as long as you keep your cards safely in a box, you should be okay. =/

I do wish that Nintendo had released more games in advance for the DS though, like I said, Metroid is getting boring. :)

[Elliott]

Discs are better as they are smaller, hold more, and you can burn them.
Blowing into a cartridge is NEVER good idea, unless you have zero moisture in your mouth, as the saliva can mess up the inside of the cartridge.

[Tachyon360]

As if. Unless you spit up a monsoon with every breath, there's nothing to worry about when you're blowing into a cartridge. It cleans the dust out really well, plus it's much faster than getting a Q-tip and some ethanol.

As for the disks vs carts vs card, there are two simple reasons why optical media and flash memory are quickly replacing carts. Optical media is cheaper to manufacture and it stores more data. Cards are small and convinient. Back in the day, all there was for storing data were tapes and cartridges. Carts were cheaper and faster, making them ideal for games. Then came all kinds of other stuff, and now that there are many cheaper and better alternatives, their grasp on games is waning. That's it in a very tightly packed nutshell.

[Nemphtis]

Out of curiosity, why have so many people voted for the revolution? Can anyone in here honestly show me a website showing some dECENT information about it? Why vote for a console you have no idea about? Nintendo announces "It will be revolutionary" and all the fanboys get into spazm attacks just for that comment.

"like omg! the revolution will 0wwwwwn all the other consoles!"
"You don't even know the hardware in it, how do you know it will own?"
"i just do! shuddup and go away you nintendo hater! call it the instinct of a nintendo fan!" :blink:

[Somia]

Uh...many voted for Dual-screen too...beside people just like Nintendo products. I think the DS is pretty good and so this shall be good too.

[Ganon]

Well anubis.Would you say the same thing if there were tons of votes for the ps3 or the xenon would you say the EXACT SAME THING?Because there's nothing really known about those!And if you would'nt complain if those were winning....*smells possible fanboy fight if that were to be true*

[Nemphtis]

Yes I would, I'm running the same debate on an Xbox fan-forum actually. Everyone's voting for the Xbox2 for the stupidest of reasons "I vote Xbox2 because its gona have good graphics and stuff!" wtf?! If I selected things just because of the brand name I'd be poor by now. Let's face it, Nintendo do sometimes screw up just like any other company, how do any of you know that this console will not suck? Just because a spokeperson said "It's gonna kick ass, trust me" ? Like they say, never judge a book by it's cover. I can understand people voting for the DS since it's OUT in stores and people have a preferance, but the Revolution is a completely different story because it's the exact opposite.

[Golden Legacy]

Anubis, I understand what you are saying, and it does annoy me as well. When I created this poll (yes, that was me), I was merely interested in what people generally were looking forward to.

But of course, as you said, they have the wrong intentions in voting. Better graphics, it's gonna be so cool!, I like the name, sony pwns microsoft dr00ls...

Ah well.

As for the Revolution, all that is officially known about it... are just rumors. In fact, all we DO know is that it will hook up with a Computer monitor, and all we have to justify its "Revolutionary gameplay" is Nintendo's word, which isn't much.

[Someone Else]

*shrugs* I voted for the Nintendo DS because of what you said Anubis, I'm a Nintendo fan. While just voting for this kind of stuff just because you favor one company over the other is kind of stupid, it's the only thing we can really do now. We don't really know that much about them yet.

[Nemphtis]

You can learn alot by going to places like IGN.com/Gamespy.com/Gamespot.com

Oh and Ganon if I was some sort of Sony or Microsoft fanboy I wouldn't have voted "I'll think about it" because that's what I was expecting most people to vote, how can anyone here speculate on consoles that hardly have next to nothing info about them. At least wait until there's some hard information about them before jumping to conclusions.

[Flamefire]

Gamespot is much better than IGN,i think ;)

[Silo STATIC]

Flamefire, on Jan 3 2005, 10:51 AM, said:

Gamespot is much better than IGN,i think ;)

This isn't a contest that debates between gaming information sites; this is a poll for what you're gonna go buy in the upcoming generation of video games (and heated discussion about it). Take it somewhere else.

Yeah. All I've been hearing about the Revolution is just scarce rumors and rational n00b banter. If there is really a new Nintendo console in production, they could have at least given us a little more detail on what it's gonna have and why. It's getting a little annoying just hearing about it through other people's opinions than actually hearing it from the official source.

[Golden Legacy]

Well, there's no denying that... but again, the only "hard" fact we have about the Revolution is that it will hook up with a computer monitor.

But yes, all the next-generation consoles are shrouded in mystery...

And there are even those ALREADY talking about the next-generation GameBoy, including rumored specs, design, and a hard-drive like element. Interesting, as Nintendo has only stated that it is working on it, but they haven't even confirmed the name, which some say is "GameBoy Evolution".

[Someone Else]

Yeah, Nintendo always said that the Nintendo DS was not a GameBoy, and everyone seemed to just say, "Yeah, right, you're just over-promoting your new system" but now they're ACTUALLY making a new GameBoy.

I wonder how they can possibly improve graphics for the GameBoy. If they made it support 3-D graphics it'd seem more like a DS than a GamBoy. ;)

[Echo_djinn]

Damn rumors. Like come on they already made the Ds they couldn't possibly be making another new GBA. They know how to produce. If you wait to long for the price of one system to go down a new better system comes out.

[Ryu Zero]

Sony Playstation Pocket sounds great :D

[Nemphtis]

I was playing the PSP today, God it's great, Lumines is an awesome game! I'm still eager to try it out on the DS. :unsure:

[Isaac13]

Exactly HOW good is the PSP? I have been thinking about getting it.

[My Best Wishes]

yea, its been a struggle for me to decide, but i'm gonna go with the ds. cos of the mario games. i don't really know why. maybe cos its coming out earlier. but whats this nintendo revoultion? the new gamecube or something? and no the ds was just released so nintendo will be thinking about their next tv console not a new gameboy. as far as i'm concerned the gameboy has changed its name to dual screen

[Silo STATIC]

Well, the DS is just an add-on to the handheld game genre. It's not particularly a Game Boy because it's pretty big. And even if it does play GB and GBA games, it still doesn't count.

[Nemphtis]

How good is the PSP? Graphically, it rapes the DS. Generally you'll be keeping it around yourself longer. But the DS's current game selection is better than the PSP's (Not for long, though). If you want to play your games on 2 screens for a change, then the DS is cool, but it's not so inovative really; I'm going for the PSP first, I'll get the DS at a later point when games of my style are relased etc.

Oh and I think the PSP is actually smaller than the DS since I was holding both and trying to see which one I want to buy first. :blink:

[Elliott]

Still waiting for the new gameboy, but if DS does too well, Nintendo may not release it.
If not, I'll look into a PSP, but I have a good computer so I can just emulate everything anyway.

[Nemphtis]

Emulating handheld games loses it's magic since most of them are made so you can play them on-the-go. :P

[Elliott]

Meh, still get the graphics, audio, story and to an extent the gameplay. I'm not complaining ^_^ .

[Silo STATIC]

^Agreed. ROMs are the same exact thing as their cartridge predecessors (if you have enough RAM space on your computer).

I only use ROMs for when I want to try out a game before I buy it, or if I've had the game, but lost it, and want to play it again. That's rather sensible, but I still would have to buy the game, since I really owe it to Nintendo to making the great few GBA games we have today.

[My Best Wishes]

yea this is for anyone who currently owns a ds(which i'm getting in a month) how does the mutliplayer work? its wireless right? is it built in? and how far is the range?

[Ravenblade]

i think WD told me it was IR and yeah its built in. The range is about 30 feet although ive heard tell that in the right conditions it can make 100 feet.

[Golden Legacy]

To any moderators, please read the message at the end of this post.

I would like to clear up some speculation, first of all. The next GameBoy HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED. In other terms, Nintendo is in no way promoting the next generation GameBoy system, as it would be foolish to do so with the GBA SP’s continued success and of course, the newly released DS. However, it is in development. My guess, from what I’ve heard however, would be 2007 onward.

The Nintendo Revolution is the next generation home console, to succeed the GameCube and challenge the PlayStation 3 and Xenon (Xbox 2).

The Nintendo DS IS NOT THE NEXT GAMEBOY (see above).


Now that that has been settled, the DS is capable of wirelessly connecting with up to fifteen other systems (16 total) from a range of 30-100 feet (30 guaranteed, 100 if it is in ideal conditions).

To the moderators: Please be aware that I was the original creator of this topic and poll. Silo once merged my topic with Wind Dude’s (which had only three posts), and the end result is that Wind Dude appears to be the topic started. Forgive me, but would you please fix this, somehow? Also note that, again, the poll and even the topic description are mine, and you will notice some irregularity at the beginning posts of this topic, which came from that merging.

Thanks.

[My Best Wishes]

Ravenblade, on Jan 23 2005, 09:48 PM, said:

i think WD told me it was IR and yeah its built in. The range is about 30 feet although ive heard tell that in the right conditions it can make 100 feet.

cool, link cables fustrated me.

Golden Legacy, on Jan 24 2005, 10:35 AM, said:

I would like to clear up some speculation, first of all. The next GameBoy HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED. In other terms, Nintendo is in no way promoting the next generation GameBoy system, as it would be foolish to do so with the GBA SP’s continued success and of course, the newly released DS. However, it is in development. My guess, from what I’ve heard however, would be 2007 onward.

The Nintendo Revolution is the next generation home console, to succeed the GameCube and challenge the PlayStation 3 and Xenon (Xbox 2).

The Nintendo DS IS NOT THE NEXT GAMEBOY (see above).
Now that that has been settled, the DS is capable of wirelessly connecting with up to fifteen other systems (16 total) from a range of 30-100 feet (30 guaranteed, 100 if it is in ideal conditions).


Thanks.[/i]

the sp is sucking lately. and the ds is now un-officaly being called the new gameboy. picotchat is built in right? cos that thing was cool. and how many pens do you get with the ds?

[Golden Legacy]

Again, any moderators, please see my previous post.

The DS is "unofficially" being referred to as a GameBoy because, quite simply, the handheld market has been Nintendo's for fifteen years. I have even heard the PSP being referred to as that.

Actually, disregard what I said about the GameBoy Evolution's supposed release; there are those who are hinting that the next GameBoy might even be revealed at THIS year's upcoming E3. Of course, I doubt it, for aforementioned reasons, but just know that it is in development, and will supposedly have near GameCube power (imagine... perhaps even a portable version of the GameCube!)

But don't quote me on that. Again, the GBE has NOT been officially announced, so if you want a handheld device now... well, if you can hold out until E3 to confirm, else go for a DS.

[Nemphtis]

The Xenon and Playstation3 is RUMOURED to be released the end of this year and around January of next year. Looking forward to see how well Microsoft learned from their previous mistakes, and I also wanna see if the PS3 has become more mature now and less bullying. Also want to see if Nintendo actually stand a chance.

[l3lueMage]

I wonder, since Sega teamed up with Sammi will they be making a new system, Hold on, gonna research a few minutes to find out.

[Nemphtis]

I'll save you the time. They will not.

Infact Sammy are planning on stopping Sega from developing games for consoles and PC's AT ALL. Sammy want to make Sega focus on the Arcade industry, the place where it all started for Sega and the sector both Sega and Sammy are both succesful in.

[Ravenblade]

Microsoft tried to buy out Nintendo didnt they? Of course they were laughed out of Japan, but even still - if that had happened, i think Song would have been in a spot of bother, seeing as they STILL dont have any decent PS only games (that i know of - i'm sure there must be some) But personally i still think Nintendo will be going by the end of this. In truth, the X box and the Playstation have so many similar games that they may as well be the same console. All of the next gens will have their strong points, but Nintendos, as ever, will be quality of gaming.

[Nemphtis]

The xbox is God of FPS games in the console war. Not even Sony can match Microsoft's FPS domination. Sony has a shiatload of Plasystation only games, I'm sure with some research you will find some (i.e Devil May Cry etc.).

Also I just imported my PSP from Japan! I am now holding one sexy piece of hardware in my very hands! <_< God the screen is so beautiful! I'm playing Ridge Racer at the moment, I also ordered Metal Gear Ac!d which will arrive this Monday! OMG this is teh r0x0rs! I also played the DS but it didn't impress me as much, especially with their game lineup.

[Blink]

Anubis, on Jan 28 2005, 01:31 PM, said:

I also played the DS but it didn't impress me as much, especially with their game lineup.

Heh, just wait til March, there's a ton of games coming out then in response to the US release of the PSP...it's gonna be handheld madness march...

anyways, I'm sticking with the Revolution, it just sounds so cool right now, rumor wise. Backwards compatible with GCN games, smaller flatter system, gyroscopics in the controller, much more ergonomic controller, etc...

[Nemphtis]

Well if you want to believe in rumours that sounds cool it's like me making stuff about the latest Playstation2 and saying it's gonna rock. The latest PS2 hovers in mid-air! It also has 6 S.C.U.D Missiles, 4 Tomahawk missiles, heat seeking Stinger rockets, a 30mm Gatling Gun. etc. It's going to rock! :P

Edit: Oh and everyone has a awesome game lineup this March, not just DS. :) Check the MArch releases for PSP, DS, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube.

[Sea of Time]

To video game companies that want to change things up by putting a "touch sensitive" screen on their system or a "super-cool gun". I say, stay traditional! Games were meant to be played by a controller. Don't try to sell more stuff by being innovative. Make better graphics but keep the systems the same.

[My Best Wishes]

Ravenblade, on Jan 28 2005, 10:37 PM, said:

Microsoft tried to buy out Nintendo didnt they? Of course they were laughed out of Japan, but even still - if that had happened, i think Song would have been in a spot of bother, seeing as they STILL dont have any decent PS only games (that i know of - i'm sure there must be some) But personally i still think Nintendo will be going by the end of this. In truth, the X box and the Playstation have so many similar games that they may as well be the same console. All of the next gens will have their strong points, but Nintendos, as ever, will be quality of gaming.

Hey microsoft appaoched sony about making a joint ps2/xbox, they got REJECTED. XBOX WILL NVA BE IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS PS2

[Ravenblade]

i agree - PS is far superior to X-Box. As is GC in my humble opinion. I hope nintnedo live up the their generally accepted "most innovative" title with this next console.

[Nemphtis]

Actually, Microsoft do have a big chance of passing the PS2 in a few years. Maybe even this year. People are more interested in the Sony brandname than what Sony is actually offering WITH the brand name. The "Sony Playstation 3" will sell first and foremost because of the reason it is Sony. It's what gaining a reputation is all about. Microsoft were the new kids round the block, but considering the fact they were new, they still bought in alot of great stuff. Just like Sony are the news kids in the Handheld block, look at their PSP though, compared to the DS it's a quality piece of hardware.

[Ravenblade]

i dunno..ive seen and played both the PSP and the DS, and i preferred the DS but thats really just opinion stuff^^

I guess you're right about Microsoft moving up the field but...i dunno it just doesnt seem like the kind of market they'd be very good at. Unless they can start being more inventive with games rather than following the standard formats, they might have a tough time shaking the reputation that "sells" Sony.

(might i ask what the battery life of the PSP is...?)

[Echo_djinn]

Well, with the hype the DS is getting I don't see what the big deal is. The 3D games and better graphics is a great bonus but I don't see the need for a dual screen. The PSP seems more like a mini computer then a handheld system. It feels like you really need to take care of it. Anyways, all I am really interested in is which system has the better games? Since thats what it's all about right? DS games are looking better everyday but the PSP has PS2 graphics so it's a tough choice for a customer like me. Any suggestions.

[Nemphtis]

Okay put it this way, the PSP is not just a handheld, but that doesn't mean it's not a good one. The PSP's screen is great quality. Not just PS2 graphics but with such a quality screen it feels as through you're watching your home TV as you play it. Then there's the added BONUS of features, let's pretend it wasn't a handheld. Then we still have the ability to play music, watch films, and I hear you can soon even have a web browser fitted into it to check emails etc. !

What does the DS have? It also has tricks up it's sleeve, Backwards compatibility means you can play your old GBA games on it, the Duel screens allows you to play games in a new and different'ish way but also can get VERY annoying.

All in all it depends on what kind of games you like. IF you're a fan of Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Zone of Enders etc. like me you'll go for the PSP, if you still aren't sick of Mario and Sonic games then the DS by all means. :huh:

[Golden Legacy]

Anubis, you forget one important feature of the Nintendo DS; it's Touch Screen! I'll admit, Dual Screens may not seem like much, but add in a touch screen interface (and Voice Recognition) and you have innovation, although the more innovative games have yet to come.

ALSO, note that THE DS AND GBA-SP CAN PLAY MP3s and MPEG4 VIDEO FILES!!!

That caught your attention, I'm sure. Nintendo is releasing this "Play-Yan" adapter which will allow your DS/GBA to offer MP3 playback and the ability to play MPEG4 Files, though the latter does not match the PSP.

ONLINE GAMING has been hinted on being revealed for the DS very soon; in fact, the DS has actually been confirmed to have games that will take advantage of the Wi-Fi, a cool shooter Nanostray (by Majesco), and presumably, Mario Kart and Animal Crossing.

One last thing: the DS is about Innovation, the PSP is about traditional console strength. Take your pick.

[Nemphtis]

Indeed, I did forget those things. :)

Well it comes down to the obvious choice as usual doesn't it, the age old choice. Which suits your style more? Each are very different handhelds, I've played both handhelds and I preferred the PSP as it suits my playing style better. But I can understand if others prefer the DS.

[Ravenblade]

That same point as been said of Sony's playstation and Nintendo's opposing consoles for some time now. Is it accurate to say that the PSP falls into the same playing style category that the Playstations did? And similarly the DS falling into the standard Nintendo "playing style". If that made any sense...

[Nemphtis]

Yes, both company's are appealing to a different audience. I'm teh type of Audience that doesn't have one specific preferance though, I like to put my finger in every pie, not just one. :agitated:

[Golden Legacy]

Well, you can't say that Nintendo has never appealed to the older demographic. I mean, it has always been Nintendo's philosophy to create games that appeal to EVERYONE, not just the supposed younger audience.

The reason I suppose is that Nintendo is still, to a degree, "living in the past", back in the glorious (S)NES days. Their games were enjoyed by everybody, as video gaming as we now know it had truly begun. But that was over two decades since its initiative, and Nintendo still abides by that audience.

Just consider the Metroid Prime games, the new Legend of Zelda, and even 3rd party titles such as Resident Evil 4, Biohazard, Metal Gear Solid (and MANY more: Tales of Symphonia + Baten Kaitos [Namco], for example). Nintendo is trying. And hopefully, it will succeed.

[Golden Djinn13]

I'm planning on buying either the PSP, but now i'm considering the DS. I which one should I buy?

[Nemphtis]

Depends on your preferance. But I'd choose the PSP for myself anyday. Design-wise, Game Lineup-wise, Capability-wise.

[Golden Djinn13]

I like the DS, but it looks a little to confusing to use, thats why I sort of wanted the PSP more.

[Nemphtis]

lol You've got it the wrong way around, the PSP is the complex one, the DS is the simple one. You don't have to manually ceate folders and directories for your DS just to watch movies, you do with the PSP.

[Golden Legacy]

:) Yup, not to mention the DS is all about "intiutive and innovative gaming" with the Touch Screen and Dual Screens. It's different, but not so that you'd be confounded. Really, I mean, I get boggled just staring at the PSP's functions, buttons, and stuff. It could just be me.

Then again, the screen is the majority of the unit's exterior, so yeah...

[Nemphtis]

Indeed. The PSP is more confusing to use, but after you figure it out it's also more rewarding. I have a 1GB PSP Memory Stick, I upload 5-6 episodes of Animé and a couple of albums and still have tons of space left. lol

[Golden Legacy]

And may I ask just how much this 1gigabyte Memory Stick cost? Honestly, the 32mb that comes with the PSP (the value pack at least) is worthless for anything other than game saves, and I recall seeing the 512mb Memory Stick retailed for roughly ~120 US dollars...

[Nemphtis]

Depends on where you look and how good you are at spotting a good deal. Bought my 1Gig mem stick for £54.99p.

Also the 64-250MB ones are enough for the average person, but I rely on my portable system alot soI went for the 1gig.

[Sea of Time]

Nintendo screwed up with the DS when they decided to put in a touch screen. That was more of a screwup than a revolutionary move, to state my point again. The PSP looks like it is more for gamers like me who look for graphics rather than 'fancy dual screens'

[My Best Wishes]

Well, sea of time the extra screen is made for games, main example:madden, you can create your own plays telling your guys where to go.

I already have a mp3 player and a protable dvd player so the psp have nothing to offer for me. I have a ps2 so theres my sony games.

I'm going Ds becuase of the classics, mario, mario karts, maybe super smash bros, zelda, and metriod prime looks good, plus final fantasy cyrstal chronicles.

If the psp really hits me, i'll grab that aswell. but if it really grabs my attention, and i have enough cash to support both systems. And if anubis is correct the memory stick for psp will be exspenive jsut for some songs which could already go on my mp3 player and some movies. Again, just play them on portable dvd.

[Golden Legacy]

watch, on Feb 9 2005, 01:02 AM, said:

Well, sea of time the extra screen is made for games, main example:madden, you can create your own plays telling your guys where to go.

I already have a mp3 player and a protable dvd player so the psp have nothing to offer for me. I have a ps2 so theres my sony games.

I'm going Ds becuase of the classics, mario, mario karts, maybe super smash bros, zelda, and metriod prime looks good, plus final fantasy cyrstal chronicles.

If the psp really hits me, i'll grab that aswell. but if it really grabs my attention, and i have enough cash to support both systems. And if anubis is correct the memory stick for psp will be exspenive jsut for some songs which could already go on my mp3 player and some movies. Again, just play them on portable dvd.

Precisely!!! Unless you are truly willing to devote tons of resources for the PSP, then just realize that it is another smaller version of the PS2, with an admittedly cool screen. Yes I sound like a fanboy, and yes, I realize that this can be countered. But EXACTLY as Watch stated, yes...

Again, the DS is also innovative and new. I assure you, any games designed specifically for the DS would not be able to be ported on any other game system, portable or console. Conversely, any game created for another system could be ported over to the DS, with additional Dual Screen, Touch Screen, and Wireless capabilities.

Just in general.

[Nemphtis]

Again all I have to say is, it's about preferance. Personally I have an MP3 player and a portable DVD player, I still got the PSP, why? How often do you see a guy sitting on the bus watching a DVD on his portable DVD player, then put it away and take out his MP3 player and listen to that, then put it away and take out his gameboy? It's not about owning such features already, it's about having all these features in one machine, not several.

[Someone Else]

Sea_of_Time, on Feb 7 2005, 06:52 PM, said:

Nintendo screwed up with the DS when they decided to put in a touch screen. That was more of a screwup than a revolutionary move, to state my point again. The PSP looks like it is more for gamers like me who look for graphics rather than 'fancy dual screens'

I laugh when I hear things like this.

Okay, to all you DS haters out there, the touch screen is usually OPTIONAL.

I admit, I didn't exactly love the touch screen at first my self, but sometimes during the game (e.g. Mario 64 DS) the touch screen can really beat the D-Pad and the buttons, like when you need to go stealthy for example.

Remember, OPTIONAL.

[My Best Wishes]

Anubis, on Feb 10 2005, 07:29 PM, said:

Again all I have to say is, it's about preferance. Personally I have an MP3 player and a portable DVD player, I still got the PSP, why? How often do you see a guy sitting on the bus watching a DVD on his portable DVD player, then put it away and take out his MP3 player and listen to that, then put it away and take out his gameboy? It's not about owning such features already, it's about having all these features in one machine, not several.

You do have a point, but personley i don't go on public transport, i'm talking about drives, i'm not sure about your family's but often enough my family and i go for a drive for a day or to the beach, and then the stuff i listed comes in handy.

I was psp all the way when i first heard of them, But i'm getting the ds becuase i loved the gameboys, not minuatre all around machines.

[Nemphtis]

I use public transport to go school, work, anywhere else. My parents are too busy to lend me the car. :lol:

[My Best Wishes]

Yea so for you the psp would be a deffiant yes, beucase you can put movies on it and songs and games.

I'm to young to even have my L's

[Nemphtis]

Which comes down to my point again, it's all about preference.

I've been playing Ridge Racer on the PSP recently, the opening CG is godamn awesome. Gameplay-wise I think GT4 and WipeOut will be better, but until then I needed a few games to keep me busy so Metal Gear Ac!d and Ridge Racer shall do. :wacko:

[DullahanX7]

u got metal gear solid 3: snake eater?

[Golden Legacy]

No, Metal Gear Acid, a launch title for the PSP. I personally don't know much about it (obviously, you should ask Anubis), but I do understand that it is a turn-based card game... or something to that effect. Care to correct me, Anubis?

[DullahanX7]

wha?

oookay....
never heard of it.....
whats it like?

Please keep your posts as constructive as possible, DullahanX7. -ForteGX

[Nemphtis]

It's not out in the U.S or UK yet... I imported it.

It's good, worthy of carrying on with the Metal Gear Brand. But not everyone will like it. Personally I think it's a good move. This is the first game that puts stealth into Turn-Based Strategy.

Also I havn't got MGS3 yet because it's coming out in MArch in the UK.

[My Best Wishes]

Since the DS still hasn't been released over here in aus, what games should i get? i'm getting mario64 ds and maybe metriod prime, if the demo is any good.

Any suggestions for me?

[Golden Legacy]

I would recommend, in addition to those that you have mentioned, WarioWare, Yoshi's Touch and Go... Feel the Magic, certainly (may also be known as Project Rub)...

And there are so many exciting titles coming out. Such as Nanostray with supposedly online support and graphics that match the Dreamcast, Animal Crossing (very likely with online as well), Another: Code (a great adventure/mystery title that puts the DS's capabilities to the test)... and so many others.

[Ravenblade]

I haven't heard on Nanostray or Code before. Are they all out for the DS do you mean or is Nanostray out for the next Ninty big one? I wasn't aware the DS had online capabilities as such.

[Golden Legacy]

Well, in terms of release dates, Nanostray is coming out a few months from now, Another: Code is going to be released in just a few days, and Animal Crossing is still... up in the air, so to speak. But yes, both the DS and the PSP have online capabilities built into it.

[Nemphtis]

Indeed, I was just playing my friend from Canada on Ridge Racer. :mellow:

[Golden Legacy]

Honestly? I had no idea that Ridge Racers specifically had an online component... Well, the true degree of the online capabilities of the DS (which many expect will be revealed before the PSP launch in North America) should be Nanostray, Animal Crossing, perhaps even Mario Kart and that new Four Swords DS adventure...

[Ravenblade]

Oh wow!! Four Swords and Mario Kart online would be totally awesome. I would buy one just for that, even though i have no money at all! (damn being a student). What do you think the lag would be like though?

[Golden Legacy]

Well, though this is different, there have been no lag issues with the DS wireless multiplayer connections. As for Wi-Fi, it has a built-in 802.11b card, as does the PSP. The lag for online is expected to be minimal for the DS, but for the PSP, you would have to ask Anubis.

[My Best Wishes]

How exactly does the DS play online? is there a cable or software you used to use it? or does the wireless functions have some special feature i'm not aware about. And when and how does the voice reconigtion work.

[Golden Legacy]

The Nintendo DS, as previously stated, has built-in 802.11b Wi-Fi capabilities that should function when you are within a wireless "hotspot". As for the voice recognition, it must be programmed by the developers. Actually, so far, it has only been as simple as blowing into the microphone and such, but there have been suggestions that Nintendo will release a headset adapter that will allow you to chat with other players worldwide via the microphone, and some have even suggested PDA like software that uses it, but of course that is doubtful.

[Ravenblade]

Is this all not getting a little ambitious for one small machine? I mean how far ahead of the rest of the world do Ninendo want to go here? And what else could they possibly do next time around apart from improve on these features?

[Golden Legacy]

I believe that question could also be given to Sony with both the PSP and PS3. The PSP is being pushed not as a video game system, but as a complete multimedia device with music and movie playback. The Cell Processor to be used in the PS3 is supposed to far surpass any technology that as of yet has been created.

[Ravenblade]

I really don't know how good it'll be though even with all those features. I still won't buy one as the games just don't appeal to me^^

Sooner or later, someone will just make a box that does everything...It'll sit in the middle of the room with a TV screen on every edge and entire families will just sit and stare at it...

But not quite yet^^

[Golden Legacy]

Haha! :P

Then of course, there is always Nintendo's enigmatic Revolution system, its next-generation home console. It promises to deliver something unprecedented and completely innovative to video gaming.

But that will all be revealed at E3...

[Ravenblade]

I know nothing about that really and i have to say that im really excited about it! I was kind of hoping they'd do a game sphere but that woulda been kinda silly.

I honestly hope they decide to go full out for online capabilities this time, although i can understand why they didn't want to do that last time.

[Golden Legacy]

There are actually rumours that Nintendo was considering full online support for the GameCube, beginning with Super Smash Brothers Melee. If it had done so, I believe conditions would be different for Nintendo now.

Supposedly, with the Revolution, there might be something known as the "N5 Network"; each Revolution console could very well act as its own server to connect to other systems all around the world... That alone would be ingenious.

[Ravenblade]

That'd be good to include with the forums actually - online tournaments etc could be possible on games like melee. You only have to check the melee topics number of posts to see how popular it is. It'd be awesome to have the chance to play against everyone. They really will have to be careful with lag though as that would really destroy the fun. Thats my one gripe with online gaming.

[My Best Wishes]

Lag fustrates the hell out of me.

So GL the ds can play online, but only in a 'hotspot' how could you find where these aree located?

Finally the DS is luanched in australia today, i'm getting my DS after school.

[Neon]

I'm still throwing around the idea of getting a DS. My friend thinks i'm stupid for not buying one yet :P.

It just seems a little gimmicky to me. Nobody seems to be using it's features to create serious games. Right now it's only mini games and sloppy attempts to create analogue action games :P.

I'm waiting for Advance Wars DS and Golden Sun 3 :D

[Golden Legacy]

Advance Wars DS, of course! That is certainly one of the most highly anticipated DS games, and it will make good use of its technology. The ability to control your ground troops on the lower screen, and the top for Aeriel units... not to mention wireless multiplayer capabilities.

Neon, if you are looking for a "serious" game, there is one that was recently released in Japan known as Another: Code. It received very high ratings, and stars a young girl, who's mother is dead and father missing, setting out on a journey to find out about a mysterious weapon, known simply as Another. Yes, I am not good with summaries, but that will no doubt satisfy what you are looking for.

Not to mention Sonic DS, Nanostray, Animal Crossing, Legend of Zelda: Four Swords...

[Alex]

Nintendo Revolution. Never heard of it, but I don't really care. Nintendo all the way.

[Nemphtis]

Just because I feel like saying it, I have recently bought Metal Gear Solid 3 (a day before UK release, so yay!) nearly completed it on Normal mode and I gotta say this game rawks! The closest game to MGS1 on the PS1 out of any other KCEJ game!