[Toasty]

Or the battle lasts an unusually long time. But I like a game that's challenging enough to keep me playing, but not so hard that it makes me say "forget this, I can't even pass it after 10 times!" So I hope the beginning is easy, but after that, it should get a bit harder.

[Neon]

I think the beginning of the game will be about the difficulty of WW, and then jump up to a difficulty more comparable with OoT or MM.

[Mars Djinni]

Considering the Twilight Realm, I think there'd be more MM class difficuly, having to switch modes in order to finish dungeons. I'm expecting a colossal Spirit Temple-style in that sense.

[TheEnglishman]

I was hoping for that sort of thing as well. I'd like to switch between the realms to solve certain puzzles, or maybe as a way to defeat a boss.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, that would be cool, but the idea was already used countless times! For instance Metroid Prime 2.

Anyway, read this:

http://www.planetgam...cfm?artid=11567

Even before I read this I wanted to play TP on the GameCube.

[Mars Djinni]

Convincing. I am considering the GC version because I don't want to buy the Wii too soon. Probably when FE10 or SSBB coems out I may as well be ready for it. Twilight Princess seemes like a mroe mature and longer Wind Waker. If that's the case, GameCube's my bet. I'll change my mind if there is a special item that needs the Wiimote.

[Someone Else]

If the Wii Remote controls are optional, would you buy the Wii version?

[Echo_djinn]

What I am worried about is that the Wii version of this game will be better then the Gamecube version which would suck. Anyone also have this doubt?

[TheEnglishman]

I guess they can't make one much better than the other. It would mean that one would fail, which would damage their overall sales. I doubt they would make the Wii version too much better.

[Aquamarine]

I think the GC version will fail anyway. I mean, come on, releasing it for the GameCube the day a new Ninty console comes out! AND releasing a bit better version of the game for the Wii! The GC game is doomed.

But yes, I do think Nintendo made the Wii version better in some aspects and that's NOT good.

[Sea of Time]

They won't drop the ball on TP for the GC, because GC owners have been waiting two years for this game! Nintendo never disappoints and should not, no will not drop the ball on this game!

[Toasty]

I think it would be best to allow the option of using the GC controller on TPWii, but then again, that's what the GC version is for...

I think they should just make a GC version that has the option of being played on the Wii with extras. That would be my descision if I had a say in it. It would keep GC owners who have been waiting for this for a while, but it would also please Wii owners, since there would be added features.

[TheEnglishman]

I think that would make more sense than having two different versions. It would be like the Oracle games. Then again they will get money from the geeks who want both versions. ;)

[Golden Legacy]

Well, it's worth mentioning that the Wii is actually backward compatible with the GameCube, and has ports for four GC controllers and two memory cards, like the actual system itself. So there may very will be the option to play the Wii version of Twilight Princess with a GameCube controller.

[Sea of Time]

I'm not sure if it's worth noting, but out of all the playable demos, this game was given X-Play's Best in Show, beating out countless PS3 games.

[Golden Legacy]

Not surprising. Twilight Princess is going to be great; Nintendo has put aside massive funds and development behind it, so there's really no need to worry. Nintendo's promised to deliver the best Zelda game of all time, and I am confident that they will.

[Toasty]

Golden Legacy, on May 20 2006, 04:48 PM, said:

Nintendo has put aside massive funds and development behind it, so there's really no need to worry.

Well, that and the plain fact that the Wii is the most 'revolutionary' next-gen consol.

[Mars Djinni]

Yes, but apparently, TP doesn't make that good use of the controller otehr than easier targeting and cool sounds. I'm expecting an item like the Tingle Tuner that actually reacts with the new cotnroller's FULL capability.

[Sea of Time]

I still somehow have my doubts on this game as far as the control scheme, and I really don't know why. I just can't wait to get that controller in my hand and try it for myself!

[TheEnglishman]

With a new controller system, you're bound to have concerns before you use it. I'm sure you'll decide for yourself if it's good or bad once you've tried it.

[Mars Djinni]

In my case, I'm willing to beleive its revolutionized capabilities. All it'll take is a flick of my wrist to testify to that.

[Toasty]

Yup. I might just get this game even though I don't really enjoy the LoZ series as much as other people.

[Mars Djinni]

It's only because you got stuck. You'll enjoy it more if you tried other Zelda games to get the feel of it otehr than Wind Waker. I was graced with the luxury of having the Collectors Edition, so I was able to play the four famous Zeldas. That got me going on the series.

[Aquamarine]

When buying The Wind Waker I got the Collectors Edition too in which I had the remaked version of Ocarina Of Time, Master Quest. I started playing a long time ago and it's awesome! The dungeons are totally remade. I finished Forest Temple but I haven't played recently, mostly because this is about the fifth time I'm playing OOT, even if it is different. But I can't seem to enter Fire Temple. I mean, I enter the first and second rooms and then there is nothing else to do. I think I need the Fire Arrow to light up some torches, but you get that only after you've finished the Water Temple, which goes after Fire Temple...

[Sea of Time]

I'm wondering if there is anyway you can still get the Collector's Edition. I really, really want to catch up on all the past Zelda games before TP comes out.

[TheEnglishman]

I managed to get the collectors edition off the interenet. I bought it after my sister had gone to university and had taken her copies of OOT and MM with her. Playing the first two games was fun as well.

[Someone Else]

The only way that I can think of is E-bay. But if you're like me, you hate E-bay. :D

[Toasty]

Ebay does suck, but you usually can get a good deal on an item you want that is normally spendy.

[Aquamarine]

Maybe you could try Amazon. Not sure if they have it there though...

[Sea of Time]

I don't think Nintendo ever sold it wholesale. Just as a pack-in. I'll try Ebay and see what I can find...

[isaac rules]

i got the first golden sun game off e-bay, and i was satisfied with the results... i can't wait for tp to come out, so i can play it non-stop and swing link's sword and slay all who stand in my way! and the wii is small, so i'll fit in nicely in my already packed room

[Toasty]

Well hopfully you have enough romm to swing the sword around. I guess I'm lucky. I have a big screen TV (52") with a lot of area in front of it. Perfect for a Wii. But my dad never did really like me playing videogames on it though. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, my dad hates videogames too. No real reason to hate them though, since I don't play them too much. All he knows is that it's bad for like your eye sight and back, depending on how you sit.
Anyway, me and my brother have got a whole floor of our house for ourselves. In our shared sitting room we have a big TV, on which we'll put the Wii IF we get it. IF we get a Wii we'll be getting it around the time that SSBB releases and will get TP along with that.

[isaac rules]

i'll have enough room, maybe move some stuff out of the way, and if i don't because im too lazy too? then move it downstairs and play it on my 60" widescreen lcd tv downstairs! but if my brother is watching me play, its an "accident" if i hit him with the wiimote while playing tp
my parents hate video games, and my mom is paranoid about them. if i even go on google without telling her its homework, its considered a game for her. typing on microsoft word gets me in trouble because she thinks that why should i be typing so much only when shes there. answer:you happen to come right when im typing, and not studying

[Sea of Time]

I have a 27" TV with my Gamecube on it currently. We probably won't get a new house when the Wii comes out, so my room will be sufficient for one, maybe two players. I'm not so lucky, I guess.

[TheEnglishman]

I have like no space at all. I think the Wii design was made just to annoy me. :)
~900~

[Aquamarine]

What do you mean you don't have enough room for the Wii? It's so darn small you could fit it into your pocket! Almost... But really, how can you NOT find enough room for it?

[TheEnglishman]

I guess I didn't phrase that quite right. I meant I wasn't sure if I'd have enough room to swing the controller about whilst playing games like Zelda. I didn't mean the size of the console itself. I don't think I made that clear.
I'd need to get used to it as well. I remember how stupid I felt when I first used a Dancemat. I still do as well. :)

[Toasty]

Dnacemats are pretty fun actually, at least as long as you're good.

[Aquamarine]

Will you actually need to swing the wiimote around your whole body to brandish the sword or will a little flick be enough? I haven't seen anyone use the remote except in a Metroid Prime 3 movie, but that guy started rolling around the room, like to move Samus in Morph Ball mode, so that was just for show.

[Mars Djinni]

it was just an emphasis on the "don't play the game, LIVE the game" feel. You'd might need soemwhere in the middle of a full swing and a flick, maybe a movement jsut with the elbow. The bow will need a real pull back and shoot kind of thing, so I'm guessing....

[Sea of Time]

Forget the dance pad. Here's the way to have fun on a Friday night.

1. Go out and rent Karaoke Revolution Party.
2. Set up your eye toy.
3. Get piss drunk.
4. Get a friend.
5. Sing the night away.

And then in the morning you can watch tapes of yourself singing and be so embarassed you won't want to show your face.

As for room space, you really don't need that much. It's not like you'll be running back and forth. Wii Sports will be the game that will judge if you have enough room.

[Someone Else]

You won't use the Wiimote to swing the sword, unless there is some new update I didn't see. The Wiimote's only used to use long-ranged stuff/make Link do a quick spin attack.

[Somia]

Waited soo...so long desu >.> They delayed it wayyy to long...
Will they better not delay the release again.

[Mars Djinni]

They won't. They're sure of it. It's actually pretty smart to delay it until Wii's launch. It'll gain more popularity.

[Aquamarine]

Sea_of_Time, on May 26 2006, 03:35 AM, said:

Forget the dance pad. Here's the way to have fun on a Friday night.

1. Go out and rent Karaoke Revolution Party.
2. Set up your eye toy.
3. Get piss drunk.
4. Get a friend.
5. Sing the night away.

And then in the morning you can watch tapes of yourself singing and be so embarassed you won't want to show your face.

As for room space, you really don't need that much. It's not like you'll be running back and forth. Wii Sports will be the game that will judge if you have enough room.

You're my man SoT!! I do that far too often! Well, except the Karaoke Revolution Party... Though, wherever we are there is always music. Ah, good times...

[Saturos S.]

Just make friend, friends and then your my man too.
I like public when I'm ..... on liquor, not drunk, just boozed. :(

As for TP, it's probably my main reason to get the Wii.
(I'm all Nintendo fanboy again. Yes anubis I admit it.)

[Aquamarine]

TP IS being released for the GameCube, you know that don't you Saturos? Since that is the case, the main reasons for me to get a Wii would be Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. Brawl, though if I do get Wii I'll get this game for that console, not the GC.

[Saturos S.]

I know that, but still. Other games are awesome for the Wii too.
This is nintendo's comeback and I'm not missing it.

I just said it's probably my main reason, there are loads of others too.

[Mysterious Adept]

By the Way, When is TP suppost to be released anyway???

[Saturos S.]

Final quater of 2006, on the release date of the Wii.

[Toasty]

They'll say when the release date is sometime in September.

[Mars Djinni]

Twilight Princess is a launch game. It will be released when Wii shows up in stored.

[Sea of Time]

By the way, have they said anything about multiplayer for this game?

I might have asked this question before but I don't recall things well.

[TheEnglishman]

I don't think they've mentioned it but it would be great. Could you imagine a Four Swords style of play, but 3D? I doubt it would happen but it would still be cool.

[Mars Djinni]

They will probably not go for multiplayer, taking into consideration the length of the game. (70+ hours)

If they do, they'd most likely release another Four Swords type game involving a DS - Wii linkup.

[Toasty]

Talking about the DS-Wii linkup, what do you think the DS will be used for in TP?

[TheEnglishman]

Do you mean in a similar way to the GBA linking up to the Gamecube in Wind Waker? I guess it's a possibility.

[Sea of Time]

There could be a way to hook up Phantom Hourglass and Twilight Princess for added features. That would definitely be cool.

[Someone Else]

But the styles of the games are so different, it'd be wierd for them to relate to each other. At least I think so.

[Sea of Time]

Well, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime were very different games, but they managed to get them to work together.

It's really just an added content thing and nothing else.

[TheEnglishman]

Nothing that I can't live without. I never tried to connect the GBA and Gamecube together cause I knew it only gave a few extra hints, maps etc.

[Aquamarine]

So, the game will be released soon, making this topic very active once more. There are also a ton of previews circuling the Internet. Now, what I have to ask you is:
Please, Please, PLEASE DON'T talk about spoilers outside this topic! I won't be checking this topic anymore for that very reason. I want this game to be perfect for me, I don't want to know ANY spoilers. This is very important for me. This is the official TP topic, so there is actually no reason for you to speak about the game outside this topic(and any others that may be about TP). Remember, talking about spoilers outside the official topic will just ruin the game for many, such as myself.
Thanks.

[Caael]

Well I dont know any spoilers really. But I do know how to defeat that Giant lava boss.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, I know that too. ;)

But I'm sure some people will know some spoilers soon enough when they've read one of the spoiler-full previews or when they have bought and played the game. That is why I beseech you NOT to spoil the game for others! Once again, thanks.

[Caael]

I too would second what aqua said. I usually always get games spoiled.

[My Best Wishes]

Can someone tell me the story line? I'm getting it at launch but pretty much just because it's Zelda, and there's been a huge hype for ages about it being delayed and junk.

[FlamingDuck]

As far as I know, you are Link, Farmhand style, who realizes that Hyrule is in danger, and you go gallavanting off to go save it from the shadow realm. The shadow realm is where you get all wolfy and meet...Edna? I dunno, I forget her name. So Zelda is apparently trapped in theee, and you have to go save her. Fin.

[Sea of Time]

Did someone just ask what the plot was for a Zelda game? XD

I think it's a given you will be saving Zelda, the only variable is how and how long it will take you to save her. And what will happen in between.

[Aquamarine]

Twilght Princess IGN review:

http://wii.ign.com/a...6/746691p1.html

It got a higher score than Gears of War. :o

[Eugine]

Twilight Princess Gamespot review:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/thelege...lda/review.html

It got a lower score than Gears of War

[Sea of Time]

I don't know why we're comparing it to Gears of War, but both reviews were interesting. I never thought that the Wii controls could affect the gameplay so much. I also didn't expect them to be near-perfect, as the reviewers say they are. Interesting.

[Golden Legacy]

From what I can tell, the review that Eugine posted is the only one below 9/10. All other reviews are above that.

[pHantOm]

Gamespot are wii haters, they are biased to the ps3.

[Someone Else]

GameSpot was originally a site for PC games a long time ago, so it'd make sense that they go for consoles that are more for brute power.

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, you could tell throughout the review how the reviewer clearly had a bias towards traditional gaming. While every other review site on the internet is saying that the Wii parts of the game are in tune with the flow, Gamestop says that they're 'tacked on'.

[Caael]

What did you expect from a launch game? Sure it's been long expected, but a launch game is there to show off the Wii potential, which is probably why they said the features were tacked on.

[Toasty]

The game has been in development for ages. No matter who makes it, the controls are going to much better than just "tacked on." They're going to be near perfect.



On a side note, the GameStop in my town has had a Wii plugged in and hooked up to a TV for about a week now, but still no controller in sight. :P

[My Best Wishes]

Well most sites have been claiming that TP is a GC port so maybe thats why the controls 'fail'.

[Neon]

Of all the aspect of the game, the controls will be the least polished because the Wii controls were only made in the last year whereas the game has been in development for about 3.

[TheEnglishman]

Man tell me about it. Wasn't it E3 2004 when TP was first announced?
I guess the controls won't be perfected for awhile yet. People need time to get used to them first. It's like when Super Mario 64 DS came out, people complained about the touch screen controls, but now in newer games they're a lot better. Perhaps TP could have been held back so the controls were more familar, but the sales of the Wii would have been affected then.

[Toasty]

The controls will definately improve over time. ther's nothing wrong with the technology, since it's not that old, but since the way it's being used is new, the controls may be a bit unrefined. The same goes for the DS.

And I figured out why I couldn't find the controller. To play the Wii demos, you have to ask for the Wiimote at the desk since it's wireless, and attatching it with a cord would severely affect gameplay. Solution? Keep the Wiimote behind the counter, and exchange it for their driver's liscence. That way, people won't try to steal it because they need their driver's liscence. It's invaluable.

[TheEnglishman]

I checked the release date for the Gamecube version of TP and it doesn't come out until Dec 15th, I think. Does anyone else think that's a bit late? Isn't a bit too close to Christmas?

[Sea of Time]

The Gamecube version is pretty much an afterthought now. The controls won't be as good because they were made for the Wii, and the Gamecube is already old news. They're only releasing it because it was originally a game promised for the Gamecube.

[Someone Else]

Wrong. TP was MADE for the GameCube, it's ported to the Wii with a different control scheme. The control scheme won't be much different from the control scheme in WW, which is pretty darn good.

[Neon]

Why are we not raving about this game? I just finished it moments ago, and it was a pretty damn awesome game. A bit easy but it had its parts that had me stuck for a while. The bosses were all easy but some of them were memerable. The second boss was awesome with all the fire effects (and was fun to fight of course), and the last boss... omg, 4 phases of pure pwnage xP

Also the controls are good. It took me some time to get used to moving the wii remote to attack but it comes naturally now.

And for those who havn't heard, there's a rumour going around that there' Zelda coming for the Wii that has been in development for almost a year. I see no reason why it couldn't be true, Zelda is a massive title for Nintendo, and they also spend a long time working on them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they show a short teaser trailer at the next e3

[My Best Wishes]

You've already finished it?
I'm not even up the second temple!!!!

[Linear]

x) AHAHAHAHAHAHA!! *is playing it...* o.o Darn you Neon in finishing the game before me. XP

x) I just finished the Snow Temple a couple of horus ago ._. kind of odd/cool to have a house for a dungeon...I felt like I was playing Resident Evil all over again...maybe because it's a house and you have dogs of snow/ice jumping at you outside.
So far my favorite is the Desert Temple... XD I enjoy spinning...looks just like a beyblade! Watch it spin! .__.;

o.O Using the Wii remote is fun... ._. instead of my fondling it...I think I should go ahead and actually go back to playing it.

[My Best Wishes]

A Snow and Desert Temple -_- I finished the Fire temple just now, man I'm behind.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Don't worry watch, I just finised the Desert Temple to, and I actually hate it that I'm so far in the game already. T_T Just enjoy your time playing it, before you know it's over.

The Spinner is cool. I was rather suprised when I got it out of the chest... I hoped for something as Hoover Boots. .__.; The boss battle was cool though. ^^

[Echo_djinn]

Alright, I got my hands on LoZ:TP for the GC. Very nice.
[Spoilers]
Right now I am in the Gordon Mines looking for the keys that the elders have so I can fuse them into a big key and enter the room to fight the bersek Gordon. I got the first Key and now I am looking for the second Elder but I can't find him? HELP PLZ? Right not I have the traditional Hyruleian Shield that doesn't burn, four hearts, the boomerang and Iron Boots. What should I do and where can I find more "peice of hearts"?
[End Spoilers]

This is my first Zelda game and I am loving every minute of it. Being the wolf is sick. The best part of the game

[My Best Wishes]

This is what I use and it is very helpfull, although it is for the Wii version so use your head in some parts.

Gamespot

I loved the item from the Fire Temple. I'm currently at the Desert Temple, probably about halfway, those Poe spirts are pissing me of.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I loved the item from the Ice Temple. The mini boss you had to fight before hand already used the item, and it felt pretty natural. But to think you actually got that item...I was like: **** YEAH! :(

I've beat the game like a week ago... And even though it was fun, the last boss was a little too easy for a Zelda game in my oppinion.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm still waiting for someone to allow me a copy. All of the gamecube versions are sold out. You can guess that this annoys me.

[Echo_djinn]

So last night I beat LoZ:TP for the GC. This was also my first Zelda game ever so....*Pats himself on the back* Now that I completed this game with little help possible, I just have a few questions about the ending. Please help a brother/gamer out to clear up the foggy parts. Alright here we go:

[Spoilers]
Question #1: Why did Midna destroy the Twilight mirror? I thought she loved/liked Link. She even said she would see him later or it would be nice to see him again? What's up with that?

Question #2: Why did Zant appear in a vision/memory just when Ganondof was about to die? It's like he came back to signal his death when he cracked his neck. Zant was being used so I see no reason for Ganondof to think about him just before he dies. Again, what's up with that?

Question #3: I know sequels are rare in the Zelda series but is anyone else thinking there will be a sequel to this game? Ganondof did say it wasn't over and that shadow and light would always struggle to maintain power or something to that extent. Midna also said she would like to see Link again but than broke the mirror? This leads me to believe there might be another way to get to the Twilight realm. Is there a sequel in the works?

Thanks for answering my questions

[Blink]

I'll clear this up for you Echo... (so obviously, my post will be spoiler ridden too)

[Spoilers]

Echo_djinn, on Jan 13 2007, 04:49 PM, said:

Question #1: Why did Midna destroy the Twilight mirror? I thought she loved/liked Link. She even said she would see him later or it would be nice to see him again? What's up with that?

You know, it's kind of like one of those things were you just don't ask. Midna did love Link (just like Ilia, as an eternal friend, maybe even something more than that), but she knew things just couldn't be like that, and that there was no way their worlds could coexist if they continued to go between them. It was one of those "She did what she had to, no matter how much it hurt her to do it" things, when she destroyed the mirror, and broke the bridge between the two worlds.

Echo_djinn, on Jan 13 2007, 04:49 PM, said:

Question #2: Why did Zant appear in a vision/memory just when Ganondof was about to die? It's like he came back to signal his death when he cracked his neck. Zant was being used so I see no reason for Ganondof to think about him just before he dies. Again, what's up with that?

Zant was the body that Ganondorf had been housed in. Ganondorf could only revive himself as long as Zant was alive, and Zant could only revive himself as long as Ganondorf was alive. Remember how just before the vision, he was saying it wouldn't end here? He thought that he could just revive himself, but when he tried, he realized that Zant was dead, and he couldn't do anything, hence why he was then left to die there, as he was too weak to continue struggling.

Echo_djinn, on Jan 13 2007, 04:49 PM, said:

Question #3: I know sequels are rare in the Zelda series but is anyone else thinking there will be a sequel to this game? Ganondof did say it wasn't over and that shadow and light would always struggle to maintain power or something to that extent. Midna also said she would like to see Link again but than broke the mirror? This leads me to believe there might be another way to get to the Twilight realm. Is there a sequel in the works?

Well yeah, Ganondorf always says that kind of stuff, he really never gives up. And you see him later in Windwaker and whatnot. So, no, there are no direct sequels in the works, and the Twilight Realm will not always be known as the Twilight Realm (it was the Dark World in A Link to the Past). Don't expect to see direct connections in a direct sequel, but you will see more Zelda games, and many will reference to TP.



I myself beat the game on Friday. I fell victim to the Cannon Room Glitch (NEVER SAVE IN THE CANNON ROOM!!!) so I had to buy an SD card to download someone else's file in order to complete the game. I finally did though, and I really liked the ending. MORE SPOILERS AHOY. Most people disliked aspects of it because they didn't "get it" since there were a ton of references. The only part I disliked was the Ganon battle. I'll quote from another topic on another board, since it was a long post...

Blink, on Jan 14 2007, 11:55 AM, said:

So, now I understand why people dislike the last portion of the game. I myself actually thoroughly enjoyed it (everything except the Ganon boss battle...that was weak...) but I think it may have been partially since I'm such a big fan of references to old games.

I don't think there was a single aspect of the Zant battle that wasn't referring to Majora's Mask. Zant was Ganondorf's puppet, Zant seemed completely insane, there was the whole giant ball of energy that was symbolic of the moon crushing Termina (or so I think...), Zant went to battle in four different zones from earlier on in the game, just like the four sections inside the moon, and Zant's final form resembled that of the Garos (the ninja guys from Ikana Canyon) combined with Majora's Incarnation. I could go into greater detail, but I think anyone who's beaten Majora's Mask would understand these right off the bat.

Hyrule Castle was a perfect mix between Ocarina's HC and A Link to the Past's HC. The music fit to a T, it was abandoned yet powerful, and climbing the stairs was another OoT flashback. A little dated of a way to approach the final boss nowdays, but it fit because you KNEW where it was really coming from...if you played OoT. I actually got stumped when the stairs completely disappeared, I didn't realize you COULD clawshot the lanterns. When you finally fought Ganondorf, the scar on his chest was a great reference to the adult Ocarina ending, when you see Ganondorf clutching his chest and coughing up blood. I'm sure to anyone else, it would just be "a scar", but to me, it felt like I was seeing the results of what I'd done years ago. xD

The final boss battles were really cool, the Zelda one was dramatic and fresh, the Ganon one was the most Persian feeling boss battle I've ever played (but it was cool to attack the gem on his head again, yet another Ocarina reference), the horseback one felt like a Windwaker reference in a new setting, as to keep things diverse, and the last battle just felt perfect. I have no idea where he got that sword, since he's supposed to have a trident (I swear, his weapon changes every game), but it still seemed to work out.

My main disappointment was that the fighting was too easy. I beat every boss on my first run (mind you, those runs took forever), and the only time I ever had to repeat something because I was felled in battle was because I died the first time I fought the boss (the three knights) in the Cave of Ordeals. I actually beat them the second time, when I remembered that I had the seemingly useless but ultimately totally useful Golden Armor (that works really well when fighting the ice creatures in there). So yeah, combat was disappointing, but it was really cool to actually feel it in your arms that you had just swung your sword a whole freaking ton, and you really WANTED to be finished fighting these guys, and just defeat them already.

So, yes. I write a lot nowadays. xD

Hope that answers your questions Echo. What do you guys think of the references and whatnot?

[Luna]

I just got ****ed by the cannon room glitch :D

[Blink]

Sheba, do you have any SD cards? You can continue the game on someone else's save file. Go here and download the game save from just before the cannon room glitch. You can continue from there (WITHOUT SAVING. XD) and then beat the game, like I did. If you have any questions, just PM me, I'll be happy to help.

[Luna]

Don't have the card. And I'd much rather have my work + my items + everything (I had nearly upgraded everything, had all 4 bottles, lots of hearts and nearly all bugs and poes).

[gsninja]

I still have my Wii copy of Twilight Princess sitting at home without a Wii to play it on. I'm getting really edgy. D=
I've read that Link can snowboard in tis game. Is it true?

[Luna]

Extreme snowboarding, yesh.

[Blink]

Funny fact: Replace "ugh!" with "eh?"

It makes them Canadians. For reel! D:

Sheba, trust me, there's no way around the glitch. The save file actually has all four bottles. It has 14 hearts, and a good couple bugs. Half the poes, yeah, but it's better than playing another 30 hours of the same exact Zelda just to progress into the last 20%.

See if you know anyone with an SD card. You only need it temporarily, to move your save file off the console and move the gamefaqs save file onto the console.

[Luna]

I'm already replaying it ): IT'S A TEST OF DEDICATION. ...Because never, in my whole gaming history, have I completely replayed a game. Ever. I've tried to but I only get to about 1/4 of the game and then forget about it completely.

[My Best Wishes]

What is this Cannon-Room glitch...

[Luna]

Here are two videos on the cannon glitch:

-Short to the point one: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XkB53h2M5Pw
-Long one that explains how it happens: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=JiWa7_ZQ_EQ

The videos don't show any spoilers, really. Except that you're in a room with a big cannon and you need to get the cannon out.

[My Best Wishes]

I'll be sure to save before that then. I'm currently looking for the characters. However, one of the comments said the glitch doesn't occur in the PAL version. How about the GC version?

[Luna]

I'm not 100% sure but from what I found out, it IS possible in the Wii and can't be fixed. In the PAL version.. I think they said it was possible but fixeable. There's a video about it somewhere in YouTube. As for the GCN version... I'm not sure.

There's infinite talk about this everywhere in the internet, but people always fail to point out which version they are talking about (unless it's really obvious like the Wii).

So, you're bound to find something if you make a Google/YouTube search >>

[I'm Always BROKE]

The Cannon Room Glitch has been completly removed from all PAL games. I tried it out on my friend's game yesterday and it didn't worked. Not sure about my game though...

[My Best Wishes]

So then I take it Sheba has a NTSC(?) version.

Just finished Sky temple, in the Twlight one...

[Luna]

Dude XD I know what PAL is but I don't know what the letters themselves "P", "A", "L" stand for. So I have no idea what "NTSC" stands for/means either XD

[Caael]

I got this game almost 3 weeks ago now, and i'm on Sky Temple. I think it's 30 hours i've been playing.

Spoiler alert

Just highlight to read

I got all bugs and the big wallet, 32 poes, 15 hearts which means 35 heart pieces I got. I think. I got all the secret hidden moves, 3 bottles, all items, Big Quiver, 3 Bomb bags, but not many fish. Thats about it. And in 30 hours. I'm proud of myself =D

[TheEnglishman]

I completed the game today after having it for two weeks exactly. The Ganondorf fight was good, though I would have preferred not having to do the Ganon fight before.

[Caael]

Did you get all the secrets and heart pieces, secret moves ect?

[TheEnglishman]

I got all the secret moves, but I never aim to complete every side quest. I leave that to when I play through it again.
Besides, the fact that you can't save at the end (again :huh: ) means that I can back and do those things when I want.

[Caael]

You suck at life. You get the heart pieces and stuff before Ganon. Its easier that way, then you have more life. I think the best side quest is probably Agithas bugs. You travel, but not as much as you do to get to the poes.

[TheEnglishman]

Caael, on Feb 25 2007, 02:14 AM, said:

You suck at life. You get the heart pieces and stuff before Ganon. Its easier that way, then you have more life. I think the best side quest is probably Agithas bugs. You travel, but not as much as you do to get to the poes.

To be honest I did fine with the hearts that I had. I wasn't desperate to all the other heart pieces as well.
What do you get for all the bugs?

[Caael]

Giant Wallet- holds up to 1000. Not essential, but helpful for when using the magic armour.

On a side note, I completed the Cave of Ordeals in 1 go today : D

[Someone Else]

I wanna talk about this game. So far it's really good. But... if you remember, in Ocarina of Time you got hurt by how long you stay in the lava. Don't know what it was like in WW. But in TP it hurts you by two hearts and you start back at the beginning of the roomj. Which is... strange, because by this part of the game you probably only have 4 hearts. Dubbya tee eff.

[Caael]

Well there's pots at the start of the temple, so if you're finding that part difficult, just keep entering and leaving to get the hearts.

[Moonear]

I just got this game, but now I'm stuck when you get turned into a wolf for the second time. I think you have to find a bridge or something. Can someone help?

[Folcon]

If its a wooden bridge, then I think I remember finding it in the woods that lead to the first dungen. But I don't know for sure.

*Checks stratagy guide*

Here it is, yes it is in the North Faron Woods. There is a bridge propped aginst a rock wall. Midna will port you and the bridge back to the gorge and drop it in place.

[Moonear]

Thanks, escout. Now I am off to play. I hate being a wolf.

[Someone Else]

I beat the Goron mines. The game claims I've been play 15 hours already? That doesn't seem right. Maybe it was the times I left the game playing in the pause screens.

[Folcon]

ihatekraden, on Oct 27 2007, 11:05 AM, said:

Thanks, escout. Now I am off to play. I hate being a wolf.

No problem. I'm pretty far into the game, I just haven't played it much for the last several months because I picked up other games, including my DS.

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Oct 28 2007, 02:55 AM, said:

I beat the Goron mines. The game claims I've been play 15 hours already? That doesn't seem right. Maybe it was the times I left the game playing in the pause screens.

Yea the game is like KH in that aspect.

[Someone Else]

I've not played KH. But I poked around on the internets a bit and it would seem that other fans had also hit an about 15-hour mark when they finished the Goron mines. Jesus. This game is huge. I feel like I've only scratched the surface and and now I'm at 20 hours. By this time I would've beaten Phantom Hourglass. :P

[Toasty]

Well, I don't own TP (yet), but I'd like to know one thing. Are the motion senseing controls better than the demo versions they had at GameStop? Because it was kinda hard to keep the bow steady when fireing arrows. Plus, the demo frequently said that it lost the signal from the Wii, but the batteries were fine. So, are the controls smooth or just so so?

[Caael]

You can change the sensitivity to make it smoother.

[Someone Else]

You can turn Wiimote aiming off by going to the in-game options and setting "Pointers" to off. This also gets rid of the fairy cursor. I prefer this. You aim using the analog instead, just like in the GameCube version.

[Folcon]

I play the gamecube version, so I don't know.

[Golden Legacy]

Dude of Wind, on Oct 28 2007, 06:41 PM, said:

Well, I don't own TP (yet), but I'd like to know one thing. Are the motion senseing controls better than the demo versions they had at GameStop? Because it was kinda hard to keep the bow steady when fireing arrows. Plus, the demo frequently said that it lost the signal from the Wii, but the batteries were fine. So, are the controls smooth or just so so?

I don't know about the demo version, but for me the aiming with the Wii remote was not only smooth and natural, but it was probably the best part of the control scheme for the Wii. If you ever get the game (or for WD, who already has it), I strongly recommend just going with it - it works phenomenally well once you get the hang of it (which is pretty soon) and it also makes simple, intuitive sense.

[Someone Else]

The fairy cursor annoys me... plus I tend to slouch on my couch to play and people constantly walk around in front of the TV, making Wiimote aiming glitchy. It's just more convenient not to have it.

[Golden Legacy]

Convenience is one thing, but gameplay is another. Trust me, you're missing out on a whole dimension of accuracy that is simply not possible with the analog stick. Trying to aim arrows in Wind Waker or even in the GC version of TP feels so archaic and slow by comparison. Trust me, you'll not only get used to it (it isn't hard), but it'll be extremely helpful for some of the later battles in the game.

[Someone Else]

Fairy cursor makes me D: I've used it, but usually I just target anyway.

[Golden Legacy]

It can get admittedly a little annoying, but all you need to do with it is have it on the side or the corner of the screen (with the remote) and just move Link around with the nunchuck. Better yet, just aim the fairy off the screen when you're not using it. You're somehow making the control scheme sound a lot more complicated than it actually is.

[Someone Else]

Well then... I like the battle music in TP! :P

[Golden Legacy]

... haha, I actually laughed at that. At any rate, I've made my point about the control scheme, and so have you. I just really think you need to give it a chance, there's a reason why the Wii version of TP is better, and it has to do with being able to aim with the remote.

I'm off to bed now (well, "bed" as in finishing up a math problem set that's due tomorrow, lol, I just remembered). Night.

[Toasty]

The aiming was pretty easy in WW because of the L targeting (which admittedly took me until the tower of the ods to get used to. lol), but as far as I know, TP doesn't have L/R targeting, which is why motion senseing controls would make aiming a lot easier. if I get TP (which I probably will), I'll definately try useing the motion senseing. I mean, why buy the Wii version for 10 or whatever more dollars if you're not going to use the motion senseing? An "aquaintance" of mine made a similar statement about brawl. He said the he wasn't going to even look at it unless it had motion senseing [because that's what the Wii is known for].

However, if the controls are too choppy for my likeing, or for whatever other reasons, I'll consider the non-motion senseing controls.

But I think that's pretty cool that you can choose between the two. Good move on Nintendo's part.

[Caael]

TP does have lock on, and it makes it a hell of a lot easier to hit stuff rather than taking pot shots with your bow.

[Moonear]

I feel so left out, I don't even have a bow and arrows yet. D:

[Folcon]

You get it in the Goron Mines. And it is so much better than the slingshot.

[Moonear]

Hey, I'm in the Goron Mines right now, I just beat the fat dude in sumo wrestling. Except now I can't get out of the first room. I hate dungeons :P

[Folcon]

Get the strat guide.

[Laharl]

TP was amazing, easily my best game of 2006

me has it on Gamecube and no issues with controls whatsoever as a result.

think the only thing i didn't do was get all the poes because i couldn't be arsed. Loved the cave of trials, even if it was a bit on the unfairly difficult side

[Someone Else]

I've got the Master Sword. The Water Temple wasn't insanely hard like in OoT. It was a little confusing at the beginning but after you obtain

Spoiler

the Clawshot

it got a LOT easier.

I beat the temple with all Wiimote aiming except for when I used Z targetting. It is nice, but the fairy cursor really ruins the immersion factor. Call me eccentric, I just don't like it. I can easily beat Iza's river rafting minigame with traditional aiming, so I'm all right.

[Someone Else]

You know what's disappointing? So far I haven't had to look up for help online. Really, I've been able to find Heart Pieces, defeat bosses, and go through dungeons all on my own. I beat the

Spoiler

Arbiters Ground

yesterday. Nothing's left me stumped and going in circles like a Link to the Past would. Enemies will be lucky to lower my health by two hearts. In a word, the game is easy. Not ridiculously easy like Minish Cap or Phantom Hourglass but still easy.

Also, I know that Link in TP was supposed to come across as a very kind soul, the way he always does his little smile thing but sometimes...

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/WindDude/midna.jpg

But I still love the game, it's just my duty to criticize. :P

[Golden Legacy]

^ ROFL. :P

And you're already beaten the fourth temple? Very nice! Tell me the boss battle at the Arbiter's Grounds wasn't awesome -

Spoiler

revolving around the skull creature on the spinner, then having Link fly off into it? that was @#$%ing brilliant!

- it is by far my favorite boss battle in the game, excepting the final boss.

[TheEnglishman]

I felt the same way about that boss. It felt far more inventive than any of the others.

[Someone Else]

That was the only boss (so far) that made me swear. I'd always

Spoiler

jump too soon or too late and fly into the fireballs.

And I love the item from that dungeon. It's really fun, and different than the other items from all of the Zeldas. I hope it's used some more in the future.

Now that I've beaten the fourth temple, I'm taking a break from dungeons and have just been screwing around in the game doing whatever odd thing I could see. Tried out fishing. It's fun with the Wii controls but the water in TP is far too reflective to be... conducive to fishing. I can't see any fish! The undetailed water from OoT would be better in this case. :P So if any of you have any tips on where exactly to expect fish, that'd be awesome sauce. I've only been able to catch Hylian Bass and Ordon Catfish.

[Ironsight]

Dude, I wanna Wii so bad...

~500~

[Moonear]

Yay, jjust beat that super annoying part where you hav to

Spoiler

get the carriage with the zora kid acros the plains and i got the zora armor. Now I'm in the water dungeon.

[Caael]

But the part with the chase is so fun! I love the horse battles, they're the best parts of the game.

[Someone Else]

I beat the game yesterday. Now I'm sad, because I want to play more.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS GALORE if you haven't beaten the game. So just skip this whole post, because I'm not gonna bother spoiler-tagging the whole thing.



Things I didn't like about the game:

• Too easy. Fighting was too easy, bosses were too easy, dungeons were too easy... for me at least. Not everyone will find it easy I guess, but I seem to remember Nintendo saying that this aimed at hardcore Zelda fans but ultimately, the game was still easy.
  
• Auto-block. This is only in the Wii version. It isn't a big deal, but it still made me D: a little.
  
• Horse-back combat was only used, I think, three times in the game. Boo.
  
• The wolf form was barely used in the second half of the game.
  
• And while we're on barely used things, half of the items you find are still barely used much like previous Zelda games, with the exception of the Clawshot and if you're like me, the Hero's Bow.
  
• The Overworld, while huge, left me feeling somehow empty. I don't know, it is huge, but I feel like it just wasn't really used.
  
• The Overworld battle music tends to come in late. The dramatic battle music tends to come in after and only after I kill an enemy.
  
• Shield attack/spin attack controls. I could pull out my spin attack MOST of the time, but not always. Shield attacks were terrible though. You have to hold the nunchuck at a specific angle, and when the shield attack DID work Link would go crazy with his shield for some reason, even though I swear that I'm holding my left hand still.
  
• The game practically THRUSTS money in your hand.
  
• Magic Armor.

A few things that really stood out as awesome:

• Very long. I clocked about 65 hours in the game. I'm not entirely sure how, but I did. Maybe the times I left the game on in the pause screen did some of those hours, but it's still long.
  
• Horse-back combat. Yeah.
  
• Wolf Link was pretty cool. It's a great idea, shame it was mostly used in the first half of the game.
  
• The Overworld theme music. Absolutely love it, and I like how it changes depending on if you're moving or standing still or riding on Epona.
  
• The hidden moves are awesome. Even if fighting is as easy as it's ever been, it's still a lot more fun than just having three moves. Four if you count WW's parry move. (Swing sword, jump attack, spin attack, parry in WW)
  
• Art style. TP isn't the most high-tech in graphical terms, but it made impressive use of bloom lighting and it's just great to look at sometimes.
  
• It's a Zelda game.

I have more un-awesome than awesome things about the game. That's probably because when a game is as great as TP is, the un-awesome sticks out like an ugly, un-awesome thumb when compared to the rest of the game. The game was fun, but I'm D: because I've finished it. I can always try to find secret stuff I guess.

[Caael]

I agree with everything WD said, especially about the empty overworld.

[Aquamarine]

Well, I've finally finished the game. I can't bother typing as much as WD wrote, so I'll just do it quickly:

The bad:

One of the most linear games I've ever played.
Barely anything to do outside of dungeons, even less than OoT. I don't like playing one dungeon right after the other, so I always attempted to do other things after beating a dungeon. However, after awhile of searching for stuff to do in Hyrule, I would get bored and frustrated and continue to the next dungeon.
Fishing in the Fishing Hole, from the boat, is annoying, unrewarding and incredibly boring.
The Wolf is underused, unimaginative and boring.
Temple of Time was pathetic from beginning to end. Easy, short and boring with an unimaginative boss.
TOO MANY OoT references! I'm really pissed off about it, over half of the music was taken from Ocarina!

There are other things, but these are the most important.

The good:

Lots of excellent and very imaginative dungeons and bosses.
The game was more difficult than I expected it to be after reading the reviews.
Bunch of new and really awesome items, plus hidden skills which are great.
Horse-back combat.
Incredible facial expressions.
Chock-full of fresh and truly awesome ideas.

Again, there are more, but these are the most important.

So in the end, it was an excellent game, but not as good as I expected. The point of the game was to make a bigger Zelda than Ocarina of Time. This is Nintendo: 'Zomg, Ocarina had a gigantic Hyrule Field, so lets make an even bigger one even if there's no reason for us to do so! Oh, and Ocarina had eight dungeons, so lets make NINE dungeons this time!' However, OoT had four mini-dungeons whilst TP had none, so Ocarina is still a longer game.

Oh, and I'm also completely in love with the Hyrule Field music. So many times did I ride through Hyrule just to listen to it. =D

[TheEnglishman]

I think it ended up spending too much time doing references to OoT. Sure the occasional piece of music or monster is fine, but they relied on it too much.

[Caael]

OoT is funking overrated too much. Sure, it's good, but everything ever says its the best game ever. ITS NOT!!!

TP was awesome, but I did like the mini dungeons in OoT. TP shoulda had more of them/

[Someone Else]

I ended feeling like there was more in TP that I hadn't discovered. In fact, I didn't see any Great Faries, and at first I thought there were none in the game until I read people talking about them. I'll probably play TP again using a guide this time as a sort of a checklist to find things.

Playing through OoT now... just beat the Goron Temple. I dread the Water Temple... I played OoT a little bit as a ROM as some of you might remember me saying, stopped playing shortly after the Water Temple because using the ROM to hack cheats was too tempting. =/

Anyway, OoT's a great game but I find myself missing TP as I play it. It's not so much the terrible graphics, more because OoT's controls are God-awful. Link turns way too sharply and it's damn near impossible to make him walk. I can see why people hold OoT as the Holy Grail of gaming, though I think TP is superior in many ways.

And how can you say TP doesn't have enough to do between dungeons? There are whole story segments that don't involve dungeons!

[Aquamarine]

Wind Dude, on Dec 8 2007, 03:37 AM, said:

I ended feeling like there was more in TP that I hadn't discovered. In fact, I didn't see any Great Faries, and at first I thought there were none in the game until I read people talking about them. I'll probably play TP again using a guide this time as a sort of a checklist to find things.

Playing through OoT now... just beat the Goron Temple. I dread the Water Temple... I played OoT a little bit as a ROM as some of you might remember me saying, stopped playing shortly after the Water Temple because using the ROM to hack cheats was too tempting. =/

Anyway, OoT's a great game but I find myself missing TP as I play it. It's not so much the terrible graphics, more because OoT's controls are God-awful. Link turns way too sharply and it's damn near impossible to make him walk. I can see why people hold OoT as the Holy Grail of gaming, though I think TP is superior in many ways.

And how can you say TP doesn't have enough to do between dungeons? There are whole story segments that don't involve dungeons!

The Great Fairies are at the

Spoiler

Gerudo Mesa, beneath the large stone wall that is part of the Bridge of Eldin.

Of course TP is superior in many ways, it came out ten years after OoT. But for it's time, Ocarina was WAY better than TP.

Yeah whole story segments in between dungeons. Great. You can beat each of them within 15 minutes. And plus, in the second half, the game doesn't even have these segments. Especially towards the very end of the game: when you finish the

Spoiler

City in the Sky you can go to the Palace of Twilight without doing anything, and when you finish that dungeon the path to Hyrule Castle is completely open.

TP barely has any sidequests and mini-games. OoT had the

Spoiler

Gerudo Training Ground

that was an optional mini-dungeon, it had the huge trading sequence, and tons of mini-games that you could play for ever and ever.

[Laharl]

Wind Dude, on Dec 8 2007, 02:37 AM, said:

more because OoT's controls are God-awful. Link turns way too sharply and it's damn near impossible to make him walk.

that's what you get for using a mouse and keyboard :b

the controls are fine with an N64 or GC pad.aying TP

Water Dude, on Dec 8 2007, 11:34 AM, said:

OoT had the

Spoiler

Gerudo Training Ground

that was an optional mini-dungeon,

I'm taking it no one has actally done the cave of trials then?

Replaying TP myself, currently up to the Zora temple

[Someone Else]

laharl the slayer, on Dec 8 2007, 06:29 AM, said:

that's what you get for using a mouse and keyboard :b

the controls are fine with an N64 or GC pad.aying TP

I was talking about OoT, playing it on the Virtual Console. When I was playing it as a ROM I'd use a PC gamepad that was basically a rip-off of Sony's DualShock. It was a little better in that I could optimize the gamepad's settings to make it less sensitive.

But when I actually play it on my Wii Link still controls horribly. It's really not a big deal, but I still wonder why it was done this way.

[Aquamarine]

laharl the slayer, on Dec 8 2007, 03:29 PM, said:

I'm taking it no one has actally done the cave of trials then?

You mean the

Spoiler

Cave of Ordeals

in TP? Yeah, I played it and finished it on my first try. That's far from a mini-dungeon though. It's just a bunch of

Spoiler

monsters that you have to fight

.

[Someone Else]

Found the Great Fairy on my own. She's better than the previous Great Fairies, but is it just me or is her face kind of... strange? I mean, it's great that she's pretty much naked and just surprisingly more anatomically correct considering it's a Nintendo game, but it's something in the lower lip. Ah well.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, I noticed the face thing too. XD The Great Fairies were naked in OoT and MM too though. All they had were like vines all over their bodies.

[Someone Else]

This fairy shows a bit more though. Surprising from "kiddy" Nintendo.

The OoT/MM fairies scare me. I think they do that to everybody.

[Caael]

Wind Dude, on Dec 9 2007, 07:19 PM, said:

The OoT/MM fairies scare me. I think they do that to everybody.

It was the laugh when they appeared and dissapeared.

[TheEnglishman]

It always sounded more like crying to me. Also, one looks like she's on a mobile phone as well.

[Caael]

Aqua is a polygon pervert. Cmon, there's gotta be lik 10 polygons on those fairies in OoT

[Aquamarine]

Polygon pervert? Wait, did I ever say they were sexy or anything? I'm not turned on by people made of squares, thank you very much.

[Someone Else]

The OoT/MM fairies have pointy bits. ;)

[Moonear]

I got up to the water zora temple and then i got bored of the game. I plan to beat it someday though.

[Someone Else]

I take it you're bad at Zelda games?

[Moonear]

This is the first Zelda game I've ever played and I got to the zora temple in about 2 weeks. Yeah, I guess I'm bad.

[Someone Else]

Lol. I beat most dungeons from the latest Zelda games in one day. And I only play video games for generally 2 hours a day. On "good" days I can go for nearly 5 hours. ;)

[Caael]

Ihk, first play OoT. Then play Majoras Mask. Then play LttP for the hell of it. Finish them all. Now TP will be a lot easier for you.

[Someone Else]

LttP is really hard...

At least that's the way I remember it.

[Toasty]

When I first got it, Wind Waker was hard for me (DON'T LAUGH). But then after I set it aside for about a year, I came back to it and almost finished it. Here I am, a good two or three years after I got the game, and I still can't even get to the last two bosses before you reach ganon. It's the fire and grass bosses. I know I can beat them, I just can't get to 'em.

[Someone Else]

Omfg. Good luck playing any Zelda game except PH and maybe MC if WW is too hard for you.

Here's a tip: Look at the rooms you haven't been to from your map. See if you can get to those rooms. If the doors are unreachable or if it's locked, then try to see if you can get to any other unvisited rooms and IF you can't, then the keys you're looking for are in a room you've already been to. Compasses are your friends for looking for chests. Really, Zelda games aren't that hard. You just need lateral thinking.

What are we going to do with you, Toasty? ;)

[Moonear]

I'll try to get Ocarina of Time on the virtual console. What systems are Majora's Mask and Wind Waker on?

[Someone Else]

Majora's Mask is N64 like Ocarina, Wind Waker is GameCube.

I want MM to come onto the VC! I think it'd be my favorite Zelda if it did.

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Dec 10 2007, 05:32 PM, said:

Omfg. Good luck playing any Zelda game except PH and maybe MC if WW is too hard for you.

Here's a tip: Look at the rooms you haven't been to from your map. See if you can get to those rooms. If the doors are unreachable or if it's locked, then try to see if you can get to any other unvisited rooms and IF you can't, then the keys you're looking for are in a room you've already been to. Compasses are your friends for looking for chests. Really, Zelda games aren't that hard. You just need lateral thinking.

What are we going to do with you, Toasty? ;)

That's not it. This is the final dungeon, and there's only one small room between you and each boss. I just can't seem to get past the lava to get to the scorpion guy in the lava room, or get the gondola thiy to move past halfway through the room in the grass room.

[Laharl]

cant remember the end of WW, just know it was a walk in the park and the final fight was win

have to agree that 2D Zelda is A LOT harder, Link to the Past, Link's Awakening and the Oracle games were way harder than the 3D incarnations of the series, OoT was tricky first time but finishing it gives the experience and skill to totally remove the difficulty from the 3D games. Even Master Quest was patheticaly easy....

[Someone Else]

I haven't played Master Quest. How would you rank the Zelda games you've played in order of difficulty?

Toasty: Use Ice Arrows to make spaces to jump on. That part was annoying.

[Laharl]

in order of difficulty i'd say (hardest first)

Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Link to the Past
Minish Cap
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
OoT: Master Quest
Twilight Princess
Wind Waker

not played Phantom Hourglass, the original or Adventure of Link

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Dec 11 2007, 07:43 PM, said:

I haven't played Master Quest. How would you rank the Zelda games you've played in order of difficulty?

Toasty: Use Ice Arrows to make spaces to jump on. That part was annoying.

I figured that out, but then I got bored. I'll try again later. Still have absolutely NO clue on how to get to the grass boss though.

[Aquamarine]

laharl the slayer, on Dec 12 2007, 04:05 AM, said:

cant remember the end of WW, just know it was a walk in the park and the final fight was win

have to agree that 2D Zelda is A LOT harder, Link to the Past, Link's Awakening and the Oracle games were way harder than the 3D incarnations of the series, OoT was tricky first time but finishing it gives the experience and skill to totally remove the difficulty from the 3D games. Even Master Quest was patheticaly easy....

Really? I found it pretty difficult... And I consider myself good at games, seeing as Echoes wasn't all that hard for me.

[Someone Else]

laharl the slayer, on Dec 11 2007, 11:55 PM, said:

in order of difficulty i'd say (hardest first)

Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Link to the Past
Minish Cap
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
OoT: Master Quest
Twilight Princess
Wind Waker

not played Phantom Hourglass, the original or Adventure of Link

Hmm, Minish Cap harder than OoT and TP? That's surprising. I remember MC being easier than TP in my opinion, though it's a been around a year since I've played MC.

[Folcon]

laharl the slayer, on Dec 12 2007, 02:55 AM, said:

in order of difficulty i'd say (hardest first)

Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Link to the Past
Minish Cap
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
OoT: Master Quest
Twilight Princess
Wind Waker

not played Phantom Hourglass, the original or Adventure of Link

I don't know about that, I found Minish Cap easy. I beat it in a day or two. And LttP was't that hard either, took me a week or so. But I'll agree that the Oracle games were hard, just not among the hardest games.

[Laharl]

i'll admit it was only really the end boss of minish cap that was difficult, compared to the no challenge whatsoever posed by the 3D titles. Seriously if you've played one 3D zelda you've played them all.

Have to say Okami was better than the majority of Zelda titles, except OoT

[Someone Else]

I though LttP was hard. Though that might be because it was my first Zelda game, and it has the most dungeons as far as I know.

[Caael]

14 IIRC.

[Golden Legacy]

Twilight Princess discussion folks, please. Anyone up to making a general Zelda topic, go right ahead.