[Golden Legacy]

That's right. To the casual gamer and average consumer, the name won't deter them from buying a console. Choosing to buy a game system for them is a large decision, and if they're willing to set aside a few hundred dollars for the system and games, then the name won't have any effect at all.

I'd just like to say that we can expect the launch of both PS3 and Wii to be successful, and for a complete sell-out. Each console has enough of a fan base to ensure that will occur.

The question now is, which will carry the momentum further?

[Someone Else]

Wii has potential to have a very, VERY large variety of games, both classic and unique. Sony may have ripped off the concept for the motion-sensing controller, but Wii will still pull it off better, thanks to a design that is overall better for swinging, aiming, you name it. And don't forget, Wii will also allow you to download games from the N64 down to the NES, so people like me who haven't owned any previous Nintendo console can enjoy games I wouldn't be able to play otherwise.

BUT, the PS3 is a multi-media masterpiece... And that's all you really have to say about it.

(You can totally tell that I'm more enthusiastic about the Wii :blink: )

[Toasty]

The Wii will definately carry farther. Both consols have their pros and cons, and both consols have a lot going for them. But the Wii has free online service, free classic game downloads, and the potential for a huge variety of games thanks to it's motion sensing. The PS3 will still do good thanks to it's fans, and people who have cash and want it for the multimedia features, and mabey some other people who are willing to shell out that kinda cash for it. But because of the price, it won't go very far till the price drops. But once it does, it'll bite back pretty hard.

[Mars Djinni]

I say the PS3 and the Wii will excel at what they were made for. Most who are starting off with an entertainment system should choose the PS3 because of it's multimedia capabilities. Wii will cater to the enthusiastic gamers already out there and those who enjoy a lot of game itneraction at parties and such. There are a decent amount of the "audience" that PS3 and Wii target, so we can expect them to be even in terms of sales.

[TheEnglishman]

Basically, Wii for the gamers and PS3 for the people who want more than just games?

[Toasty]

Yeah. I'd say that sums it up best.

[Blink]

Wii is simplistic, so much so that even nongamers can use it and not get confused, but PS3 is complex, complicated, and goes above and beyond technology. That's probably the best way to put it.

[Someone Else]

I feel like neither one will excel over each other at Christmas, even though I favor the Wii.

[Aquamarine]

So, who of you guys is actually getting a Wii in the first month of it's launch? If I ever get it it'll be 6-7 months after launch. And who is going to get a PS3?

[Eugine]

It depends on the games released this year for me. I'm more interested in the PS3 games, but I'm sure they're not releasing this year.

So, depends on the launch games.

[TheEnglishman]

I always try and wait for awhile, after a console is released before I consider it.

[Mars Djinni]

More or less, I'd get if for my next birthday or Christmas. I want to wait for the prices to drop.

[Someone Else]

I'd like to get a Wii at launch so that I can download games like OoT, MM, and buy WW. And TP if it's there (which it should).

If I can get the Wii, and get all these games... well, I'll be busy for a while. :blink:

[TheEnglishman]

I've only gotten an actual console once for Christmas. I guess people are more willing to get the games for me than the actual system.

[Someone Else]

Alas, my dad will buy many things for me, but any console made by Nintendo isn't one of them. =( I don't get that.

But he says if I can buy it myself, then maybe he'll let us have one.

I've got around $90 bucks saved up, and it won't be hard for me to get $100 this summer... so if I can get $10 more (which isn't too hard), I'll be all set if the console sells for $200!

*begs* Please don't let it be $250...

[TheEnglishman]

The prices are looking painful for me at the moment. I only get £15 a month! Don't force me to act responsible and get a job!

[Golden Legacy]

I've been wondering why people think Nintendo would be at a disadvantage of launching the Wii at $250 rather than $199. Yes, obviously, the lower price point is more attractive to consumers, but Nintendo is already guaranteed to be sold out at launch, because all the Nintendo hardcore fans will buy the system, regardless of price.

Nintendo may as well benefit and get more profits by selling at 250, then drop it to 199 the next year, once the console gains more momentum and begins to appeal to the non-gamers.

[Someone Else]

Don't say that!! If it does sell at 250, I'll have to find a way to get 50 more bucks!

[Eugine]

199 is good price, 150 would be the bomb, 99 would guarantee success D:

I'm sure the Wii costs the same to produce as a GC... So it'll be cheap.

[Someone Else]

I doubt it'll be less expensive than 200. 150 is pushing it, but it still might be enough that Nintendo could make some profit.

100 would probably be suicide, they would LOSE money making the units.

[Eugine]

Who say so? I'm sure the majority of the parts of the Wii are extremely cheap since it's last years technology (year before maybe lol).

Only thing expensive is the... CONTROLLER? I highly doubt...

[Sea of Time]

I'm actually doubting whether I actually want a Wii now. I'm not a big video game player now, and if our house gets renovated this spring according to plan, I will finally be able to buy my own computer + ipod. I would really rather have that than the Wii.

If I do get it, it will be after SSBB comes out.

[TheEnglishman]

I might wait to see how the launch titles do, and to see what other titles are coming.

[Someone Else]

Eugine, on Jun 4 2006, 09:51 PM, said:

Who say so? I'm sure the majority of the parts of the Wii are extremely cheap since it's last years technology (year before maybe lol).

I think you're exaggerating a little bit.

I haven't seen the hardware specs for the Wii actually.

[Golden Djinn13]

I'd have to agree with Eugine on that one. I doubt the Wii parts were extremely expensive, compared to the other systems. Thats probably another reason why they won't sell it as much as their competition.

[Sea of Time]

The Gamecube was solid and yet it was still the cheapest of the systems. Perhaps the Wii will be the same deal.

[Golden Djinn13]

When I heard about the Wii's price, I actually started thinking about getting one. Although it wont be the first next-gen that i get.

[Toasty]

Sea_of_Time, on Jun 5 2006, 03:15 PM, said:

The Gamecube was solid and yet it was still the cheapest of the systems. Perhaps the Wii will be the same deal.

Litterally. On TV, a videogame show dropped an XBox, a GC, and a PS2 from a 5 story building. The XBox was oblitterated, the PS3 was a bunch of shattered plastic, but the GC only lost it's lid.

Wii Specs at bottom, or Wii Specs scattered, but probably more accurate.

PS3 Specs at bottom

The PS3's CPU is a 3.2Ghz.....The Wii's CPU is 729Mhz.......WTF?!? How can a system survive nowadays on anything less than a 1.2Ghz?!? The Wii's is less than one gig..... At least the Wii has 512 MB of inernal sotrage. I have a 512 for my GC, and it's not nearly even 1/4 full, while the PS3's is half that. But what's the difference between Flash memory and XDR memory? The Wii's discs can hold up to 8.5 gigabytes, so that's pretty good I guess. They just need to include DVD support built in. The Wii is also efficient, check the specs in the second link.

But so far, if I judged a system by it's looks, I'd get a PS3.

[EDIT] heh, GC controllers are already being called classic. ( second link, bottom )

[Someone Else]

I like the Wii's look better, but that's just me. I've always been fond of the clean, small, look. Plus, I like the little glowing blue thingy (the place where disks go in?)

[Toasty]

Mabey the larger ones. The place that looks like it' goes in to me is just to the left of that, but judging by the picture, it doesn't look like the Wii discs will fit in.

[Aquamarine]

I like how the PS3 looks, though the Wii isn't too bad. But I would never even dream of getting a console without Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon...

The GC costs $5 to make. What!? But in the selling price for any product must be larger than the manufacturing cost, because the company has to cover the marketing costs. Advertising is very expensive. Also, they need to make a little profit, so they have to make the price of the console a little higher.

[Sea of Time]

Mr.T, on Jun 5 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

Litterally. On TV, a videogame show dropped an XBox, a GC, and a PS2. The XBox was oblitterated, the PS3 was a bunch of shattered plastic, but the GC only lost it's lid.

Not just any video game show, but it was X Play! I watched that segment, it was pretty hilarious. The PS2 died on the first test, the XBox was a beast, but it's front console fell off, and the GC just bounced around the room without breaking at all. Of course the GC would win, Nintendo made it!

EDIT: And here is that video! X Play's Durability Test

[Golden Djinn13]

What I found interesting is how the Xbox could hold its own for so long. I didn't expect the PS2 to last long though....that system is way to sensetive. B)

[Eugine]

B) Toasty can't be talking about the samething because his account was unreliable...

The Xbox wasn't "oblitterated", the PS3 isn't even out yet... (just being a smart ass, I know you meant PS2)... The PS2 wasn't even "shattered plastics"... but, YEP, the GC discription was good.

[Someone Else]

No reason to be touchy just because Microsoft and Sony LOST for once. B)

Why don't you post the Wii's specs then?

[Golden Djinn13]

Does anybody know if the Wii's online play is free?

[Someone Else]

It should be, or I think it is at least.

[Aquamarine]

1st and 2nd party online games WILL be free, and so will probably most 3rd party games, but that's up to the maker of the game to decide.

For specs just check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Wii#..._specifications

[Sea of Time]

It should be free, like the others said. I believe it will take the same theme as the DS WiFi and give you friend codes and all that stuff.

[Aquamarine]

Nintendo said it won't be the same as the DS's internet. They haven't said exactly how it'll work, though they probably will at the Tokyo Game Show.

Nintendo has just announced that downloading old games from the Virtual Console will cost between $4 and $9. Shame it's not free. Oh well. They also said they will reveal the price and release date of the Wii before September. It will have DS connectivity too, something we all must have guessed.

[Toasty]

Sea_of_Time, on Jun 6 2006, 09:21 AM, said:

Not just any video game show, but it was X Play! I watched that segment, it was pretty hilarious. The PS2 died on the first test, the XBox was a beast, but it's front console fell off, and the GC just bounced around the room without breaking at all. Of course the GC would win, Nintendo made it!

EDIT: And here is that video! X Play's Durability Test

Quote

B) Toasty can't be talking about the samething because his account was unreliable...

The Xbox wasn't "oblitterated", the PS3 isn't even out yet... (just being a smart ass, I know you meant PS2)... The PS2 wasn't even "shattered plastics"... but, YEP, the GC discription was good.

Eugine, that wasn't it. It was a different show, but they went on top of a 5 story building, dropped each consol individually, and the GC only lost it's lid, while the others....well, I already told you.

Specs:

Wii Specs at bottom, or Wii Specs scattered, but probably more accurate.

PS3 Specs at bottom

[Sea of Time]

Well, the PS3 specs are certainly formidable to the other two, it's power is more than twice as powerful as the Wii!

I also didn't know that you would be able to download Sega Genesis games for the Wii, that's a great idea. I've always wanted to play the original Sonic.

[TheEnglishman]

Sea_of_Time, on Jun 8 2006, 04:20 PM, said:

I also didn't know that you would be able to download Sega Genesis games for the Wii, that's a great idea. I've always wanted to play the original Sonic.

They only announced that fairly recently. Must have been about a month ago.
Just so you know SoT, Sonic 2 and 3 are lots better than the original. You could always buy the compilation that they did for Gamecube though.

[Sea of Time]

I'm sick of buying stuff for Gamecube. Do you know if you can get that sort of thing on the GBA? I might be able to play it on our road trip this year.

[TheEnglishman]

You definitely can't get the original sonic gams on GBA. You can get the sonic advance games though. They're pretty good, but not as good as the originals.

[Toasty]

Sea_of_Time, on Jun 8 2006, 08:20 AM, said:

Well, the PS3 specs are certainly formidable to the other two, it's power is more than twice as powerful as the Wii!

It's more than four times as powerful. 729Mhz vs. 3.2 Ghz. But then again, as long as it can run all the games it's supposed to without lag, it's fine by me.

[Sea of Time]

Super Mario Galaxy, having seen more clips, looks like it will be the best looking Mario game ever. I love the atmosphere created by "Mario in Space" I can't wait to try out this title.

[Aquamarine]

I haven't seen any Mario Galaxy trailers. I've seen SSBB and Metroid Prime 3 trailers.I really should get a friends of mine to download MG, TP and some other trailers...

[Sea of Time]

I suppose it's not really a trailer. It's one of those E3 preview videos. An official trailer hasn't been released as far as I know.

[Toasty]

Man, I'm still dissapointed that we havn't gotten TV yet. I could've probably seen those already, but I only know of a few places that might have them. Could somebody post links to all the trailers or something?

[Blink]

Here's a really good Super Mario Galaxy video...

[Golden Djinn13]

I honestly wouldnt have the patience to play that game. It looks like the type that would frustrate me into throwing the Wii out the window.

[Toasty]

Hmmm...It' certainly does look different...