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#1201   TheEnglishman 

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    Posted 28 March 2008 - 06:58 PM

    I hate the Jecht fight. Seriously it's so annoying. Go around collecting a bunch of spheres whilst bumping into icicles, before enjoying YET ANOTHER CUTSCENE. Then, when you finally arrive at the fight, Jecht has two stupid rocks that take off any bad ailments and heal him at the same time. Seriously, I just hate this fight so much. I know exactly what to do, and it just doesn't work.

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      Posted 28 March 2008 - 06:59 PM

      I never had any trouble with that fight. Probably because I put it off for so long doing sidequests and such.

      [EDIT] Alright! My first level up in about two days.

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        Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:02 PM

        Lvl's come hard at high lvl's?

        And ya, Jecht was easy.

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          Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:02 PM

          No, I stopped using Poach.

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            Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:04 PM

            Makes sense. Ya, you must have been pissed.

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              Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:06 PM

              Say, what gambits are you using?

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                Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:08 PM

                Not many. Mainly...

                >70% Cure
                Enemy Attack
                Enemy *Random Black Magick*

                What gambits should I be using?

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                  Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:09 PM

                  Well it's really up to you. If it works, then stick with it I guess.

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                    Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:10 PM

                    Gambits are one thing I haven't invested much in.

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                      Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:13 PM

                      In a typical random battle, you don't need much; just a healing command followed by an attacking command. Of course, once you start getting more gambits and a longer command list, you can start to pull off some more interesting strategies.

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                        Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:16 PM

                        Yeah, everybody has the cure, then attack gambits.

                        The Augments really help though.


                        What lisence do I need to equip the Crossbow that the Garif gave me?

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                          Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:19 PM

                          What's the name of the crossbow?

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                            Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:22 PM

                            Ahh, I don't wanna go upstairs and turn my PS3 on. Idk, but is there a Lisence for crossbows, or do crossbows go under bows?

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                              Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:26 PM

                              Well crossbows are a type of weapon, so there's several licenses for them. I don't know which specific one you'll need, but they're located in the top-left area of the lower license board.What was its name again?

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                                Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:30 PM

                                I forget, and don't wanna turn on my PS3. I'll try and google it.

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                                  Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:32 PM

                                  Wait a minute, that last sentence wasn't meant to be there. Freaking internet...

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                                    Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:12 PM

                                    So is this FFX?

                                    I've been trying to find a PS2 slim for less than a hundred dollars. So far, they're only on ebay, and they all end up being more than $130 by the time it finishes. D:

                                    When I get a hold of one, which FF game would any of you suggest?

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                                      Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:19 PM

                                      Between FFX, FFX-2 and FFXII, X wins hands down.

                                      There's also FFXI, but you can't play that on the Slim for hardware reasons.

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                                        Posted 28 March 2008 - 10:59 PM

                                        I say start with X, but all three are excellent =)

                                        I actually had the most fun with X-2, but X brings back the most memories. XII was just there. It was awesome in the beginning, but slowly faded as I progressed.

                                        As long as you love FF, all three are must buy imo.

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                                          Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:29 AM

                                          I'd suggest X, and just X alone. It had a great storyline and it was fun to play. I didn't really enjoy the class system in X-2, it just seemed like an idea they pulled from their own buttocks. The storyline wasn't too shabby, but not enough to grip me.

                                          Avoid XII, at all costs. 'nuff said.

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                                            Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:06 AM

                                            I still hate Jecht. Slow seems to miss the two rocks about 75% of the time, and Armour Break only seems to be used just before a rock removes it from him. Plus even if you get past the first form, he takes out his sword and just kills you. He got two turns in a row. It's just not fair.

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                                              Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:08 AM

                                              XII is easily the best of the PS2 games, X is very good but has some annoying flaws (Why is it so damn linear!?). X-2 has great gameplay but everything sucks hard

                                              @Me111: you shouldnt really be fighting Jecht unless your dealing 9999 per attack :/

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                                                Posted 29 March 2008 - 08:35 AM

                                                Really? Screw it then, I'll come back to it when I feel up to it, but not right now.

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                                                  Posted 29 March 2008 - 09:40 AM

                                                  its really not very difficult to deal 9999 a hit on X. dealing 99,999 is another matter

                                                  Strength of 150 should be enough iirc, maybe less

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                                                    Posted 29 March 2008 - 10:06 AM

                                                    I can't be bothered to do that. I'm surprised I even made it this far. Besides I just got Resident Evil 4 and Metal Slug Anthology. X is something I'll come back to.
                                                    There was a letter in the Official Playstation 2 Magazine about how Square focuses too much on FF and not enough on their other games. I thought it might have come from you Laharl. :)

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                                                      Posted 29 March 2008 - 01:08 PM

                                                      Really Laharl? So far I've found FFXII to be little more than just random story points and constant levelling.

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                                                        Posted 29 March 2008 - 01:42 PM

                                                        XII's political plot was amazing and i loved it focused on the entire group over rather than the usual fap idol main character with a big sword.

                                                        The gameplay and battle system is the most enjoyable and refreshing thing by SQEX for years. Traditionalists can go philate the barrel of a shotgun.

                                                        Its long, its challenging and the soundtrack is good

                                                        i'm bore so a direct comparison of the three PS2 games will done of the things i deem important in an FF

                                                        Final Fantasy X

                                                        Soundtrack: 10/10
                                                        Gameplay: 8/10
                                                        Story: 5/10
                                                        Lifespan: 9/10

                                                        Total: 32/40

                                                        Final Fantasy X-2

                                                        Soundtrack: 6/10
                                                        Gameplay: 10/10
                                                        Story: 2/10
                                                        Lifespan: 10/10

                                                        Total: 28/40

                                                        Final Fantasy XII

                                                        Soundtrack: 8/10
                                                        Gameplay: 10/10
                                                        Story: 9/10
                                                        Lifespan: 9/10

                                                        Total: 36/40

                                                        huzzah

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                                                          Posted 29 March 2008 - 01:52 PM

                                                          I'm surprised you can discern any sort of decent plotline from between the lines of royal drivel. There is pretty much zero character development throughout the entire game, so much so that they have to throw in a bad joke every now and then to remind you of their humanity.

                                                          The battle system would have been good if it weren't so flawed, such as the gambits being far too basic and the fact that you'll never use half of the abilities you obtain.

                                                          Long and challenging = stretched-out and requiring assloads of training.

                                                          Oh, and FFX pwns any soundtrack.

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                                                            Posted 29 March 2008 - 01:52 PM

                                                            Final Fantasy X

                                                            Soundtrack: 10/10
                                                            Gameplay: 5/10
                                                            Story: 9/10
                                                            Lifespan: 7/10

                                                            Total: 31/40

                                                            Final Fantasy X-2

                                                            Soundtrack: 7/10
                                                            Gameplay: 10/10
                                                            Story: 4/10
                                                            Lifespan: 7/10

                                                            Total: 28/40

                                                            Final Fantasy XII

                                                            Soundtrack: 5/10
                                                            Gameplay: 7/10
                                                            Story: 8/10
                                                            Lifespan: 8/10

                                                            Total: 28/40

                                                            (ey, I just did this in like 1min!)

                                                            That's mines ^__^

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                                                              Posted 29 March 2008 - 02:00 PM

                                                              View PostSplit Infinity, on Mar 29 2008, 07:52 PM, said:

                                                              I'm surprised you can discern any sort of decent plotline from between the lines of royal drivel. There is pretty much zero character development throughout the entire game, so much so that they have to throw in a bad joke every now and then to remind you of their humanity.

                                                              The battle system would have been good if it weren't so flawed, such as the gambits being far too basic and the fact that you'll never use half of the abilities you obtain.

                                                              Long and challenging = stretched-out and requiring assloads of training.

                                                              Oh, and FFX pwns any soundtrack.


                                                              its called not being a retard, and having a working understanding of formal speech

                                                              i take it you havent fought the last few marks then, as the complexity of your gambits becomes insane, or would you prefer retarded computer AI instead?

                                                              i was a curious player i had **** loads of fun going to areas i shouldnt and exploring, gaining lots of levels without even noticing, also playing with your front party only makes you alot stronger level wise

                                                              X soundtrack is amazing, i'll grant you that

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                                                                Posted 29 March 2008 - 02:09 PM

                                                                I'm reading through a transcript right now and I still can't figure what they're on about. Whenever they bring up the subject of Vayne I'm completely lost. I didn't sign up for this. When I play an RPG I don't want politics, I want storylines.

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                                                                  Posted 29 March 2008 - 02:15 PM

                                                                  I liked FFXII's plot, but the main characters (with the exception of Ashe and the Captainwho'snameIcan'tremember) didn't feel too linked with it. Vaan's only real link was the fact that his brother was killed by the Empire, which isn't the most the original idea ever. The politics of the story helped to make it feel like things were occuring outside of the role you played as the character.
                                                                  Overall though, my experience was pretty poor with FFXII, for similar reasons that Split made. I guess I'm one of those traditionalists that Laharl went on about.

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                                                                    Posted 29 March 2008 - 02:25 PM

                                                                    Vaan is just the vassal for the player to watch events unfold, everything is from Vaan's perspective

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                                                                      Posted 29 March 2008 - 02:37 PM

                                                                      But that's the problem. There's no real connection with the character.

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                                                                        Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:27 PM

                                                                        as i've said before, Ashe is the real protagonist, they mix it up in a positive way for a change and they still get they're heads bitten off

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                                                                          Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:34 PM

                                                                          If I was Split, I'd say something like 'they are heads? I think you mean their!' But I'm not.
                                                                          However I do see your point. But I like I said, I'm a traditionalist. They just didn't include enough spiky hair and giant swords for me.

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                                                                            Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:51 PM

                                                                            just a question, did you play I to VI?

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                                                                              Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:02 PM

                                                                              View PostMe111, on Mar 30 2008, 08:34 AM, said:

                                                                              If I was Split, I'd say something like 'they are heads? I think you mean their!'

                                                                              Just because nothing escapes me doesn't mean I'm inclined to point it out. Though I was tempted.

                                                                              And I'm sort of allergic to anything more than the most basic of plotlines. I either don't notice important points in the story or I just forget about them. Hell, I can barely get my head around Star Wars.

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                                                                                Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:03 PM

                                                                                Apart from IV, yes I have. VI was my second favourite in the whole series.

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                                                                                  Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:11 PM

                                                                                  then you'll know how none of the main characters and spiky hair and a big sword :/

                                                                                  only Cloud and his >9000 fap value

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                                                                                    Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:15 PM

                                                                                    FFX

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                                                                                    Spiky hair.

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                                                                                    Big Sword.

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                                                                                      Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:21 PM

                                                                                      i had no idea X was somewhere between I and VI

                                                                                      Tidus' does NOT have spikey hair by JRPG standards

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                                                                                        Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:23 PM

                                                                                        Laharl, it was just a joke. I just meant that I was more of a fan of the traditional FF games, and used the example of spiky hair and big swords as it clearly referenced VII.

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                                                                                          Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:26 PM

                                                                                          View PostLaharl, on Mar 30 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

                                                                                          Tidus' does NOT have spikey hair by JRPG standards

                                                                                          His hair looks spikier on the field map, but yeah.

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                                                                                            Posted 30 March 2008 - 01:29 AM

                                                                                            Sooo....Besides X, X-2, and XII, what were the good FF's in general? What about XI? or VIII, or IX?

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                                                                                              Posted 30 March 2008 - 03:00 AM

                                                                                              XI is an abomination, avoiid at all costs

                                                                                              VI to IX are the best, with IX being my favourite

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                                                                                                Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:25 AM

                                                                                                FFVI was good i guess. FFX remains my favourite though. FFIX was fun too? FFVII rocked my socks too.

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                                                                                                  Posted 16 July 2008 - 04:52 PM

                                                                                                  BEHOLD! Ultimate fanboy rage!

                                                                                                  http://www.youtube.c...h?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

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                                                                                                    Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:36 AM

                                                                                                    ff13petition said:

                                                                                                    im turning off video comments. sit down little nublets *pats you on head* i will explain

                                                                                                    u are not showing me the proper respect. u are all nubs who probably started playing ff at vii. u dont have the guts to get on video like i do... hmmmm got cockbox (xbox) in mouth??haha

                                                                                                    3my momty will NEVER get ffxiii. this is #1 VIDEO ON GAMING UTUBE CHANNEL. sources say square is coming 2 there senses.. hmm lol nice comments nubs but ur namecalling is meaningless... as r u! njoy my success... FAILURES! XD

                                                                                                    The fact that fag censors into fanboy is highly appropriate here.

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                                                                                                      Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:35 AM

                                                                                                      That better be a joke.

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                                                                                                        Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:46 PM

                                                                                                        The guy looks like he's joking to me. I think the fanbase is taking it too seriously to me.

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                                                                                                          Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:51 PM

                                                                                                          View PostLaharl, on Jul 16 2008, 03:52 PM, said:

                                                                                                          BEHOLD! Ultimate fanboy rage!

                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.c...h?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

                                                                                                          The dude looks like a caricature. Funny when the stereotype lives up to reality.

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                                                                                                            Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:18 PM

                                                                                                            you better watch what you say, or you'll have to commit sudoku XD

                                                                                                            apparently its one of the something awful guys reading aliud a forum post

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                                                                                                              Posted 17 July 2008 - 06:02 PM

                                                                                                              I rofled at that. Even I know it's seppuku. =P

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                                                                                                                Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:37 AM

                                                                                                                Holy my mom. This guy needs a life fast. Then I can go and knife him.

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                                                                                                                  Posted 18 July 2008 - 08:06 AM

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                                                                                                                  BEHOLD! Ultimate fanboy rage!

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                                                                                                                  Talk about extreme xD

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                                                                                                                    Posted 18 July 2008 - 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                    It's a troll. A good one, but a troll nonetheless.

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                                                                                                                      Posted 19 July 2008 - 01:42 AM

                                                                                                                      So, what's the popular opinion on this game?

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                                                                                                                        Posted 19 July 2008 - 05:06 AM

                                                                                                                        I'm intrigued on what they are going to do with the battles.

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                                                                                                                          Posted 19 July 2008 - 05:16 AM

                                                                                                                          Looks like it's going to be another variant on the ATB system.

                                                                                                                          http://xboxer.tv/FFXIII.jpg

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                                                                                                                            Posted 19 July 2008 - 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                            with as much acting like Dante as possible :/

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                                                                                                                              Posted 19 July 2008 - 12:52 PM

                                                                                                                              As long as it's better than FFXII's battle system (don't eat me Laharl).

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                                                                                                                                Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                I hated XII. The sub-par story, huge lack of character development, and horrible battle system pretty much prevented me from ever finishing it. My opinion, of course.

                                                                                                                                If XIII is really having the ATB system, then thank God. I was really hoping that SE wouldn't use XII's battle system in this game, too.


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