[Aquamarine]

So, got a big party tomorrow. That friend of mine that's in love with me will be there as well, and I have no idea if she will try to get with me again. After talking to my mum about the whole situation(we are very open when it comes to relationships and especially sex), I've finally decided for certain that I will NOT be with her. So I'm truly hoping she doesn't try and hook up with me again because I am only human...

But the biggest pickle is that there will be at least 4 other girls at this party that I would like to hook up with. But how can I even try anything with my loving friend around? I can bet you anything she's going to make a scene if I make out with another girl, and then everyone will find out that she's in love with me and that we kissed, and I don't want people to know that.

It's gonna be a hell of a party, I can't wait. Hopefully I'll have an interesting story for your viewing pleasure. :joy:

Oh, and here's some advice: Facebook is awesome for meeting girls and hooking up with them. I only recently discovered that.

[Lightning Star]

You could avoid the whole drama by not going? But that wouldn't be interesting. So I'll look forward to hearing about it :P

And I may have forgotten to mention this, but I've been dating this guy for a little over a month and I must say that he's amazing :] I really don't know why it took me so long to realize that we're actually quite perfect for each other.

[Lightning Star]

Bump double-post.

I KISSED A GIRL AND I LIKED IIIITTT~!

actually not really the last part. It was just like mouths. And stuff. Maybe I was too drunk to actually register what was going on. Meh. So between the fact that I've been to a strip club and nothing turned me on there, and the fact I kissed two girls and still wasn't affected by it leads me to believe I may not be as bisexual as I had thought I was. I'm just a whore, I guess XD.

[gsninja]

LOL, nothin' wrong with being a whore!

My "love life" has been stark-dry so far this year, which is disappointing, since last year I was hooking up with girls fairly often. I think I just have no interest in the girls I see anymore (I partially blame this on seeing the girls in Italy again for the first time in four years)...I haven't even gone to a party since almost two months ago, so I haven't been able to see girls that way.

With no interest, I think I just have no choice but to take a break.

[Aquamarine]

Hmm, that's interesting Icy. But as gsn says, there's truly nothing wrong with being a whore.

I've been with seven girls since the start of the year, and now I'm actually in a real relationship. We've been together for a bit over 10 days now and it's going pretty well. :P Lots happening in my love life.

[Lightning Star]

Its strange, my friend's boyfriend considers it cheating if she kisses another girl-- good thing she doesn't remember it. I felt bad so I at least let my boyfriend watch on MSN webcam. Hence drunken msn convo in TRT...

@GSN: Damn italian girls. They ruin it for the rest of us! Haha, but nah. One of the girls I kissed last night is Italian and even I say is quite hot. But being single has its perks, and if you're content with that you'll probably find the right person without even realizing it.

@ Aqua: Awww, I really hope it works out for you. Lucky number 7? :P

And I find this odd. This isn't me, but one of my good friends. He's gay, and he's going out with a lesbian. They're not physical with each other, and in an "open" relationship. They like each other, but it just seems very odd. Even he says it is, but it works. Random relationship of the day, I guess. I just don't get it. XD

[gsninja]

Yeah, I'm definitely content with being single. I actually prefer being single and doing one night stands than being in a relationship, but that'll change...eventually, haha.

I just gravitate a lot more towards European girls in general too, not just Italian (Although I think I'm biased in both cases). European girls are just way classier in general, but that's not to say no American girl can be just as classy.

And LOL, I didn't even know it was possible for a fag and a lesbo to be in any kind of relationship. That's nuts...also, post 3000 right hur.

[Golden Legacy]

So apparently my making out is very wet.

[ThankMeLater]

ha. youll learn. i was told once it looked like i was eating the chicks face.

[Golden Legacy]

Funny, my girlfriend said the same thing. XD

[Lightning Star]

:P Girlfriend?! You must give details, Riad! You can't just walk in and say that and not give us (me) all the details >|

And yeah, I remember my first kiss felt like the guy was going to eat my face off, like skidz said XD

[Someone Else]

Same on all accounts.

Well except that GL doesn't need to give details on his gf if he doesn't want to.

[ThankMeLater]

the fuck are you on about? of course he does. kinda the point of the topic, no?

[Golden Legacy]

(tl;dr version) Cute half-Asian girl in my class. Need I say more?

(short story) She came with a request for math tutoring, since I'm a major. Have a few sessions. Comes one day wearing a Muse shirt. Invited her for ice cream. All continued from there.

[Lightning Star]

Bad joke: she came wearing a muse shirt? Hawt.

seriously: That's very cute and sweet. I'm happy for you, especially since I know you like them asians :P

[Golden Legacy]

The ice cream really hit home. Who knew strawberry was the way to a girl's heart?

[Someone Else]

Whoa, math gets you chicks? I better start paying attention in class.

[Lightning Star]

Sounds like it was more the way to YOUR heart. I can only imagine you melting at the sight of a cute asian eating strawberry ice cream. :P

[Lemontime]

Icy, on Mar 22 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

Sounds like it was more the way to YOUR heart. I can only imagine you melting at the sight of a cute asian eating strawberry ice cream. :P

LOLOLOL PUN!

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Mallick]

I melt at the sight if a girl who knows I exist. :x

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Caael]

I jus go with the flow and just generally fuck about with anybody whos up for it.

[Lightning Star]

Edit: I removed my post for its immaturity. My bad. Shit needs to cool down.

[Caael]

By fuck about I dont mean literally like 1 night stands, i mean just a casual relationship.

I assume Icy's post was aimed at me.

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[ThankMeLater]

Icy, on Mar 28 2010, 06:07 PM, said:

but have recently broken up with, apparently.

lolwut?

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Someone Else]

I'm sorry Icy but I gotta get this off my chest even if I look like an ass doing it... seriously what's up? You seem happy in a relationship and I swear like a week later you're complaining and you're broken up or something. :/

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Someone Else]

Well saying every week is a gross exaggeration, I apologize...

[Toasty]

I think one reason why a lot of younger people (high school, college) end up going through a lot of relationships, is because they either don't know what being in a relationship is all about, or they do, but they don't know how to find someone else who also knows what it's all about.


And just to make things clear, I'd like to point out that relationships are about self sacrifice. You should never expect to gain anything in return. That's not to say you should stay in a relationship where you're being taken advantage of, but when you begin to expect that the other person will give you something in return for your love, it'll turn sour.

That may sound like a stupid way of viewing things, but I'm not quite finished yet. When both you and the other person understand what a relationship is all about, neither one of you will ever need to worry about the other person giving you something in return, because you'll both end up receiving exactly what you wanted, and because you won't have expected it, it will make the gift that much better.

That's not to say a relationship between two people who get it will be perfect. Every couple will have their quarrels. But if you're both willing to make sacrifices for the other person, you'll get through it without many problems.


I'm not sure if I worded all of that correctly though. It's kind of hard for me to explain it properly.

[Split Infinity]

Four paragraphs seems a bit much from someone of your dating calibre. :/

[Someone Else]

you spell caliber funny, hurr hurr

[Toasty]

Split Infinity, on Mar 29 2010, 04:34 PM, said:

Four paragraphs seems a bit much from someone of your dating calibre. :/

I learn from the experiences of others. =O

[Lemontime]

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 07:43 AM, said:

relationships are about self sacrifice. You should never expect to gain anything in return. That's not to say you should stay in a relationship where you're being taken advantage of, but when you begin to expect that the other person will give you something in return for your love, it'll turn sour.

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!

You're dumb.

[Golden Legacy]

I found it quite insightful actually... good perspective, Toasty.

[Lemontime]

The perspective of relationships from someone who isn't exactly experienced with relationships is NOT a good perspective. Saying that you are not to gain ANYTHING while giving EVERYTHING is complete bullshit! Relationships are about mutual respect and gain: you get back what you give. It's completely balanced and fair. If you aren't getting anything back and you're in a relationship, you're doing something wrong.

[Golden Legacy]

I think it's possible to take the words of someone for their value, even if there isn't much 'experience' to back it up.

As for what Toasty said, I assume "getting back" varies for each person depending on what they're wanting. Going to the point where you "demand" something from another person may adversely affect the relationship... it's possible to appreciate what your partner gives you, even if it's not the original expectation you thought must be present in the person.

Those expectations are what Toasty is saying may not be worth having. I interpreted it to mean not to have strict, rigid "must-haves", and instead go into a relationship willing to take what there is actually and seeing what the person has for you, even if it's not what was originally expected or desired 100%.

[Someone Else]

Lemontime, on Mar 29 2010, 05:56 PM, said:

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!

You're dumb.

80% of your posts are dumb but I don't say anything.

What GL said, and also that if you begin to expect something out of any relationship, including friendships, you're setting yourself up for hurt and for disappointment.

[Toasty]

Lemontime, on Mar 29 2010, 06:41 PM, said:

The perspective of relationships from someone who isn't exactly experienced with relationships is NOT a good perspective. Saying that you are not to gain ANYTHING while giving EVERYTHING is complete bullshit! Relationships are about mutual respect and gain: you get back what you give. It's completely balanced and fair. If you aren't getting anything back and you're in a relationship, you're doing something wrong.

You obviously misinterpreted what I was trying to say. I suppose I didn't do a good job of describing it.

The idea of "giving everything while receiving nothing" isn't the point I was trying to get across. Hence the part about not staying in a relationship where you're being taken advantage of.

Try reading it again a few more times.

Golden Legacy, on Mar 29 2010, 07:02 PM, said:

I think it's possible to take the words of someone for their value, even if there isn't much 'experience' to back it up.As for what Toasty said, I assume "getting back" varies for each person depending on what they're wanting. Going to the point where you "demand" something from another person may adversely affect the relationship... it's possible to appreciate what your partner gives you, even if it's not the original expectation you thought must be present in the person.

Those expectations are what Toasty is saying may not be worth having. I interpreted it to mean not to have strict, rigid "must-haves", and instead go into a relationship willing to take what there is actually and seeing what the person has for you, even if it's not what was originally expected or desired 100%.

That's pretty close to what I meant. There's more to it though.

Someone Else, on Mar 29 2010, 07:16 PM, said:

80% of your posts are dumb but I don't say anything.

What GL said, and also that if you begin to expect something out of any relationship, including friendships, you're setting yourself up for hurt and for disappointment.

Yes! That's one of the points I was trying to get across.

[Lemontime]

I'LL MISINTERPRET YOU IN A MINUTE!! :@ hurp

[Toasty]

I'd just like to reiterate that if you're in a relationship where you're giving everything and getting nothing, the other person obviously doesn't understand what a relationship is all about.

And though this sounds harsh, if you were good at spotting someone who understands what it's about, you wouldn't ever end up in a situation where the other person is basically taking advantage of you.


Also, there's a saying that goes something like "Fools learn from experience, wisemen learn from the experience of others" that I like to use as my life's motto. Even though I don't always follow its advice...

[Lemontime]

Someone Else, on Mar 30 2010, 12:16 PM, said:

What GL said, and also that if you begin to expect something out of any relationship, including friendships, you're setting yourself up for hurt and for disappointment.

There is no point in relationships whatsoever if you don't expect anything. Relationships are about personal and social gain for all parties involved.Toasty: I actually retract my dumdumdum post cause I hadn't read the entire thing. Regardless, I think that relationships are not about self sacrifice, and rather about self actualisation: Realising the things that YOU want. Anybody that you are in a relationship with will respect that and they WILL give you what you want, assuming they're getting what they want. It's a matter of who starts it off, but there should not be sacrifices made.

Someone Else, on Mar 30 2010, 12:16 PM, said:

80% of your posts are dumb but I don't say anything.

cry cry cry

[Toasty]

But you see, that's the kind of thing that a narcissist would say. I happen to know a narcissist who I thought was a good person, but turned out to be a complete asshole. Needless to say, his wife divorced him, and he ended up in jail. Before he ended up in jail though, the couple went through marriage counselling, and when asked what he would do to save his relationship, he answered "Well, what do I get out of this?"

I already told you where that led him.


My point about a relationship being about self sacrifice, is that when both parties sacrifice, you both end up getting exactly what you want. But if you only expect to get something from the other person, either one of you will get everything and the other will get nothing, or you both won't get anything at all.

So by expecting something, you get nothing. But by expecting nothing, you get everything that you'd want and need out of the relationship.

That is, of course, assuming that you aren't a selfish asshole. But if you were, you wouldn't even know what the point of a relationship is to begin with.


If neither of you make sacrifices, nothing will ever come of your relationship. IT will go nowhere. If only one of you does, then the relationship will turn sour. If both of you make sacrifices, your relationship will more likely than not blossom into something worthwhile.

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Lemontime]

GSSF: An exercise in relationship over-analysis.

Just get out there and enjoy shit.
It's my 13 month on thursday.

[Toasty]

Because if you just "Get out there and enjoy ****," you'll end up going through plenty of relationships. Most of which won't end well.

I'm only interested in a relationship that actually has a chance of going somewhere.

And believe me, this isn't over analysis of relationships, this is philosophy. If you take it to heart, your love life might get even better.

Icy, on Mar 29 2010, 09:23 PM, said:

Or the other person doesn't feel the same kind of commitment as you? Or the person is selfish and doesn't want to give back?

I know what a good relationship is. But it takes two to make it happen.

That's what I've been saying. =/

If the other person isn't committed, then obviously you two weren't meant to be together. He may still know what the point of a relationship is, but he just doesn't think you're the person he's looking for. Or he doesn't know what it is, and because of that, he's just being an ass.

If the person is selfish, then they won't know what a relationship is about in the first place.

And I'm not saying you don't know what a good relationship is.

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Lemontime]

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 03:10 PM, said:

And believe me, this isn't over analysis of relationships, this is philosophy. If you take it to heart, your love life might get even better.
That's what I've been saying. =/

If we believe you, the boy with the outsider perspective and no real experience, we'll be better off? This is over analysis, you're putting way too much thought into what is required for a relationship to work successfully- that makes it over analysis. You may call it philosophy because you haven't experienced yet, but all that is required for a working relationship is two people who love and appreciate each other to the extent that they want to be with them all the time. It is that simple, don't make it out to be something it isn't.

[Toasty]

It'd be absolutely wonderful if relationships could be boiled down to just that. If that were true, we probably wouldn't see nearly as high of a divorce rate in America or elsewhere as we currently do.

It's important to love the other person in a relationship. In fact, that's part of what forms the base of all relationships. But what is love? What does loving the other person involve doing? Love is unconditional (read that, unconditional). You can't just sometimes love someone and sometimes not love them. That's the first, most important thing that a person needs to know when starting a relationship. The next thing they need to know, is that if they go into a relationship with selfish desires, it won't end well. However, if they go into the relationship only with the desire to love, care for, and provide for the other person (i.e. self sacrifice), the relationship might actually have a chance of working. However, like I've said before, both parties must feel that same thing for the relaitonship to work.

And you know what? You're right. It's crazy for anyone to listen to what someone who has never been in a relationship is saying. But you want to know something else? This information is something I've acquired after paying close attention to how the relationships of people around me have panned out. I've seen how they started, I've seen how they ended. I know what they had in mind when they started, and I know what they did to screw it up, or why they ended it.

Whether or not you choose to take my advice is up to you. But I'm telling you to spend a lot of time, and think really hard about what exactly makes a good relationship. What is it that makes a relationship last? When you've figured that out, let me know. Chances are it'll be strangely similar to what I've been saying.


Also, I'd like to raise this point: Does it take actual experience to know what alcohol or weed does to you? We all know what it does without even having to try either, because we've observed what happens. And if you're really good at understanding what does on in a person's mind, you can effectively observe how love progresses, and learn from it. Learn what makes it tick. What works and what doesn't.

I spend the time to do this, because I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I have no intentions of leaving a girl with a broken heart.

[Lemontime]

Breaking her heart involves her falling in love with you first :D (joking, ily).

Btw, drugs and alcohol can have different effects on different people. So this formula you've developed is not the be all and end all of relationship success. I went into my relationship knowing that I love this person, and that they make me happy, and I make them happy- we appreciate eachother and what we do that make us as we are. Obviously, not everyone is so lucky, but people do jump to conclusions.

[Caael]

I'm with lemon on this. Toasty, shh. There's no 'universal relationship formula' as you seem to think. Everything will differ from person to person and the point of a relationship is to discover these and tailor towards them. Not all this philosophy crap you're coming up with.

tl;dr toasty is reading too much into it.

[ThankMeLater]

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 01:13 AM, said:

Also, I'd like to raise this point: Does it take actual experience to know what alcohol or weed does to you? We all know what it does without even having to try either, because we've observed what happens.

bad example; most of the knowledge the average person who hasn't taken drugs has about them is entirely false.

[Toasty]

My point is this: Alcohol can make you drunk, Weed can make you high. This is common knowledge obtained by observation. I know exactly what weed does to a person, because I happen to have a few friends who do it.

And I think it's pretty basic knowledge that if you care for the other person, and they care for you, you'll be mutually happy.

This isn't a "Universal Formula". It's not even a formula at all. It's simply and observation of how a good, worthwhile relationship works. The kind of relationship that leads to marriage. Something none of you are ready for yet, since you don't seem to understand exactly what I'm telling you.

[Lemontime]

Because exactly what your telling us isn't true. Despite what you say, you're pretty much showing us this cookie cutter, sure fire way of having the most absolutely perfect relationship in the universe with nothing wrong and ending in a long and happy marriage. The fact that you seem to think this is the only way a relationship can work, obviously shows that you are the one that is not ready for one, despite claims that you're just waiting for the right girl. You will have no idea who is the right girl, because you don't know what other girls are like.
There are so many ways a relationship can work, and you shouldn't just focus on one. People have different needs, some need more than others, some give less than others, and this changes for every person. Not everyone is going to want all the love and compassion I'm sure you can give them, they might just think you're clingy and weird.
Relationships are flexible, but you shouldn't be bending over backwards to make things happen.

[Toasty]

And still you continue to misunderstand and imply that what I'm describing is a formula of sorts.

Feel free to continue believing that the point of a relationship is to get something in return, I suppose.

[Caael]

Feel free to continue not having relationships.

[Toasty]

Feel free to continue having bad ones.

[Caael]

Yeah they're so terrible, we have fun together; god how awful.

[ThankMeLater]

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 01:52 PM, said:

My point is this: Alcohol can make you drunk, Weed can make you high. This is common knowledge obtained by observation. I know exactly what weed does to a person, because I happen to have a few friends who do it.

your simplification of weed gets you high is about as effective as somebody observing love and simplifying it as love makes you feel good. you may know bits about what its like to be high, or be in love, but trust me, you don't know. you will never know the rush heroin brings. ever. without trying it, it's too complex of a feeling to ever truly know it. same with love. don't think you know shit just because you have teenage friends and have watched the notebook.

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 03:02 PM, said:

Feel free to continue having bad ones.

clearly.

[Toasty]

ThankMeLater, on Mar 30 2010, 02:15 PM, said:

your simplification of weed gets you high is about as effective as somebody observing love and simplifying it as love makes you feel good. you may know bits about what its like to be high, or be in love, but trust me, you don't know. you will never know the rush heroin brings. ever. without trying it, it's too complex of a feeling to ever truly know it. same with love. don't think you know shit just because you have teenage friends and have watched the notebook.

My observations come from both friends of mine, and from adults who I know pretty well. The adults who have successful marriages understand that a successful relationship requires self sacrifice. The ones which ended in divorce did so more often than not because the other person was selfish, and wasn't willing to sacrifice anything.

Most of the relationships my friends have had have failed because one or both parties in question either demanded something that the other person wasn't willing to give/do, or they weren't willing to give something up for the sake of moving the relationship forward.


You three seem to be content on thinking that love and relationships are simply about being happy with another person, which isn't true.



Though I will agree with you on one thing, Skidz. I won't ever truely understand anything without first-hand experience. However, I can understand enough through observation to judge whether or not it's worth trying. And if it is worth trying, I can understand enough to know how to go about it.

It's foolish to ever jump in to anything without first trying to understand it. Any of you who have been through numerous relationships obviously chose to learn as you go along, instead of trying to figure things out first, before you waste a lot of time, emotions, and heartache, and likely money as well.

[Caael]

Toasty, your points might all be valid and that but I cant take you seriously because you haven't personally experienced any of this first hand.

[ThankMeLater]

no matter how many times you prepare yourself for weed, you wont be a champ at it your first time. you wont rip your first rimmer. once again, same with love. despite all the "insight" you've gained, your first relationship is not going to be it. you'll fail just like the rest of us, except you'll have started much later. there is only so much so can learn from a third person experience when it comes to relationships, and you seem to feel that limit is much higher than it is.

and no, love isn't about simply being happy with another person, it's about not imagining your life without them, and trying as hard as you can to make them feel the same way (and i do mean making them happy by that). get the fuck outtta here.

[Toasty]

Are you sure about that Skidz? Because I happen to know quite a few people who got into their first relationship around my age, and have been with them for years now. My sister happens to be one of them. She's been with her boyfriend for nearly 4 years now, and she turns 20 this year. Both his family and ours are well acquainted with each other as well, and frankly, I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't end up marrying each other at some point.

You only think that the limit to what I can learn is lower than what I believe it is, because you don't know all of the avenues from which one person can learn. To be honest, I'm sure I don't know all of them yet either. But with each passing year, I find more ways to learn from other people's experiences. I won't ever know exactly what something is like until I try it, but I can get a darn good grasp on the concept before hand by watching what other people do, and listening to what they have to say about it.

And Caael, I happen to know a few married men who've come to the same conclusion as I have. So don't take my word for it, take theirs.

[Eugine]

Get on Riad =]!

And you know, I agree with you, Toasty to an extent. I think life should be about self sacrifice, not relationships.

I've only had two relationships in my lifetime (both which did not last more than a year), and I have to admit they weren't as complicated as you're making it out to be. I just think everyone experiences love differently. I think people should stop trying to define love >.>

Gotta admit, I still think of my first GF after years being apart (we're still friends). So I agree with Skidz also.

But 2010 will be the year I get a good relationship. I can see it =P

[Caael]

Toasty, on Mar 30 2010, 11:05 PM, said:

And Caael, I happen to know a few married men who've come to the same conclusion as I have. So don't take my word for it, take theirs.

/facepalm

I dont WANT to get married at 16, I know you in your little idealised bubble of shelteredness want to, but we're not all as naive as you.

[Toasty]

I'm not telling you to get married at 16. I'm telling you to quit wasting your time on relationships that won't teach you anything.

Dating is practice for marriage. It's a good idea to treat it like that, so that when you do get married, it'll actually last.

And before you say it, yes, I do plan on dating before I get married.

[Lemontime]

Toasty, on Mar 31 2010, 09:22 AM, said:

And before you say it, yes, I do plan on dating before I get married.

Why have you been so insistent that you want to "get it right the first time" if you plan on dating, and dating is PRACTICE for marriage?
Dating isn't practice for anything. Not everybody gets married, and they still spend their whole lives with eachother. Stop being so close minded.

[Toasty]

So are you saying that it's impossible to date someone as practice for marriage, and then end up marrying them?

Sure, not everybody gets married, but those who date and don't get married obviously aren't looking for a serious relationship. The advice I'm giving is for those who DO intend on getting married.

Very few people end up spending their whole lives with each other without being married. Honestly, I'd find such a notion absurd, because there's no sense of commitment. There's a reason for why people associate marriage with "tying the knot". It signifies commitment, and without real commitment, any serious relationship is doomed.

[Lemontime]

Why do you need a marriage to signify commitment if you love each other? It's like saying you don't trust your partner. My parents have been together for ages and they're not married. Marriage is bullshit.

[Toasty]

I think you've got the wrong idea. You don't get married if you don't trust your partner. That's not the point. If your partner can't be trusted, marriage won't do you a whole lot of good, since the other person will just cheat on you anyway.

You get married because you trust them, and it serves as an anchor point for that trust and your relationship.

So what happens if you get mad at each other? And I'm not talking about just a quarrel either, I'm talking about brink-of-divorce angry. If you're not married, then there's practically nothing sitting between your relationship, and your relationship ending. You could end up making a mistake in the end that couldn't easily be fixed. If you're married, then you would have to get divorced to be considered legally separated. You'd have time to think before making a decision that you might regret.

To be honest, I'm surprised to hear that your parents aren't married, since that kind of thing really doesn't happen very often (unless one of your parents isn't your biological father/mother?), but it does explain why you believe what you believe. I'd like you to ask them exactly why they aren't married the next time you get the chance. I'm interested in hearing the response.

[My Best Wishes]

Toasty, on Mar 31 2010, 10:22 AM, said:

Dating is practice for marriage. It's a good idea to treat it like that, so that when you do get married, it'll actually last.

I really don't want to rip on you seeing as everyone else is doing it, but no dating is not practice for marriage. You date someone because you like them and want to spend more time with them/exclusively. You don't date everyone because you're interested in marrying them, but you dating skills you gain are important for courting the girl/guy you do want to marry.
And yea I had a bastard at my highschool as well, I still find the arrangement odd.

[Someone Else]

I think Toasty's problem is that he unrealistically romanticizes/idealizes (I'm aware of the redundancy of that wording) all romantic relationships... I mean, I think he's right about a fair bit of the things he says in this topic, but it's all so sugar coated that I think he needs to get his ass out there and actually flirt with a few girls.

[My Best Wishes]

I think it's more he sees dating only as a tool to marry people, as opposed to a social utility. Also, I wish the dating scene here was more like the states (dunno bout Canada).

[Lemontime]

Toasty, on Mar 31 2010, 02:20 PM, said:

You get married because you trust them, and it serves as an anchor point for that trust and your relationship.

So what happens if you get mad at each other? And I'm not talking about just a quarrel either, I'm talking about brink-of-divorce angry. If you're not married, then there's practically nothing sitting between your relationship, and your relationship ending. You could end up making a mistake in the end that couldn't easily be fixed. If you're married, then you would have to get divorced to be considered legally separated. You'd have time to think before making a decision that you might regret.

Where is the trust and love in a relationship when it requires a legal document to know it exists? Marriage is NOT an essential part of a life-long relationship; and it certainly isn't a requirement.

[Mallick]

ITT: Toasty against the world


toasty loses

[ThankMeLater]

doesn't he always lose?

[Mallick]

No.

[Lightning Star]

-Post edited-

[Golden Legacy]

My Best Wishes, on Mar 31 2010, 03:24 AM, said:

I think it's more he sees dating only as a tool to marry people, as opposed to a social utility. Also, I wish the dating scene here was more like the states (dunno bout Canada).

What's the dating scene like in Australia?

[Caael]

Toasty, on Mar 31 2010, 12:22 AM, said:

I'm not telling you to get married at 16. I'm telling you to quit wasting your time on relationships that won't teach you anything.

Dating is practice for marriage. It's a good idea to treat it like that, so that when you do get married, it'll actually last.

And before you say it, yes, I do plan on dating before I get married.

/Facepalm
/Facepalm
/Facepalm
/Facepalm
/Facepalm
/Facepalm


Toasty you're really fuckin' stupid aren't you. You realise what you've just said, right? "If you dont do EVERYTHING I've said EXACTLY your relationship is POINTLESS"

Stop being so biggoted and let the people who have experience do what they want. The experience differs for everyone, stop thinking its so linear and universal. If you'd been in a relationship before you'd understand.

[Toasty]

Caael, the difference between your viewpoint and mine, is that I see dating as an avenue for marriage. You see it simply as a form of recreational activity.

"If you dont do EVERYTHING I've said EXACTLY your relationship is POINTLESS"

It's pointless in my eyes, because it doesn't prepare you in any way for marriage. You don't see it as pointless, because you're not looking at dating as preparation for marriage.

Also, even if everyone followed my advice to a T, they'd still all have very different relationships, because contrary to your interpretation of it, it actually covers a broad spectrum of possible relationships. My advice is simply a guideline for a successful marriage.

And yes WD, it is a fairly sugarcoated way of thinking. However, if people planning to go into marriage even took a hint of my advice, their chances of having a successful marriage would increase quite significantly.

[Lemontime]

You don't know shit, boy.

[Toasty]

Alright Lemon, I don't know anything.

[Split Infinity]

Lemontime, on Mar 31 2010, 12:31 PM, said:

Why do you need a marriage to signify commitment if you love each other? It's like saying you don't trust your partner. My parents have been together for ages and they're not married. Marriage is bullshit.

I'd marry you right now.

[ThankMeLater]

Toasty, on Mar 31 2010, 04:30 PM, said:

"If you dont do EVERYTHING I've said EXACTLY your relationship is POINTLESS"

It's pointless in my eyes, because it doesn't prepare you in any way for marriage. You don't see it as pointless, because you're not looking at dating as preparation for marriage.

it's fucking not. people can be entirely happy without marriage. gene simmons and his wife have been happily unmarried (a term he came up with) for 20 something years. dating can be (notice can be, as i know peopel date for sex, money, etc) just the same as marriage.. ABOUT LOVE, WHICH, IN THE END, IS ALL A REAL RELATIONSHIP BOILS DOWN TO.

edit - yeah, these names are retarded.

[Toasty]

Skidz, if relationships all just boiled down to love, life would be SO much simpler. To bad you can't do that. It's quite a bit more complicated.

[ThankMeLater]

read REAL relationships. Whether Caael is doing it for the sex, or love, it's not pointless at all, as dating IS NOT solely a means to prepare for marriage. if me and mel never get married, but stay together for the rest of our lives, was the entire thing pointless? because if that's the case (which it surely seems that way), then fuck you.

[Mallick]

Toasty, you must realize that any and every relationship prepares you for marriage (should you choose that path) even the relationships you have with your friends, male and female. However, I don't think at the age of 16 you should have marriage in mind. You've gotta get out there, fuck bitches make money smoke trees make mistakes and learn from them. Alternatively, get out there, don't make mistakes and have healthy relationships that don't end up in wedlock.

I think if you go through life with your idealistic views, you won't be fit for marriage when the time comes. However, this is just speculation as I've no idea what you're like IRL just as you have no idea what any of these people you're debating with are like IRL.

[My Best Wishes]

Golden Legacy, on Apr 1 2010, 01:14 AM, said:

What's the dating scene like in Australia?

Here if you ask someone out you must absolutely adore them and want them forever and ever and be absolutely crazy. At least that's how people react. People generally only ask people out if they like them, if you don't really know someone and want to (which is the point of dating) you'll get shut down.
As opposed to what Americans tell me about America where everyone dates everyone (however if you actually do want to date someone because you like them, what then?)

[Split Infinity]

Most people here are pretty chill in regards to any sort of dating scene. Probably because nobody pays half as much attention to whether or not you have a girlfriend. Not like it's a big deal since everybody flirts with everybody most days. :B

[Ironsight]

My Best Wishes, on Apr 1 2010, 12:55 AM, said:

Here if you ask someone out you must absolutely adore them and want them forever and ever and be absolutely crazy. At least that's how people react. People generally only ask people out if they like them, if you don't really know someone and want to (which is the point of dating) you'll get shut down.
As opposed to what Americans tell me about America where everyone dates everyone (however if you actually do want to date someone because you like them, what then?)

You're hosed.

[Golden Legacy]

My Best Wishes, on Apr 1 2010, 03:55 AM, said:

Here if you ask someone out you must absolutely adore them and want them forever and ever and be absolutely crazy. At least that's how people react. People generally only ask people out if they like them, if you don't really know someone and want to (which is the point of dating) you'll get shut down.

That's odd to hear, I have to say. Part of the great fun of the American dating scene is how simple it can be. Notice that cute girl working the register at the Dunkin' Donuts where you get the morning coffee? You catch her eye and you smile, and she smiles back. Ask if maybe she's doing anything after her shift's done. Or you're on the subway or bus, and you're sitting next to someone you find attractive. Start casual conversation, see where it goes, and when you get off at your stop, ask if you want to hang out sometime.

It's quite nice actually. I can't imagine where dating would only be restricted to someone you practically want to marry.

[Toasty]

I'd be fine in either kind of environment, honestly. but that's just me.

Mike Babcock, on Apr 1 2010, 12:43 AM, said:

Toasty, you must realize that any and every relationship prepares you for marriage (should you choose that path) even the relationships you have with your friends, male and female. However, I don't think at the age of 16 you should have marriage in mind. You've gotta get out there, fuck bitches make money smoke trees make mistakes and learn from them. Alternatively, get out there, don't make mistakes and have healthy relationships that don't end up in wedlock.

I think if you go through life with your idealistic views, you won't be fit for marriage when the time comes. However, this is just speculation as I've no idea what you're like IRL just as you have no idea what any of these people you're debating with are like IRL.

I'm almost 18, man. :\

To be honest, I'm only making a point of my observations. I don't believe I'll have a perfect relationship, or even marriage for that matter. Heck, I KNOW I won't. But I certainly don't want it to be horrible, so I'll do my best too keep my end of the deal. The deal being the one everyone makes when they get into a relationship (i.e. not being a selfish dick, and doing my best to make the other person happy).

I will consider myself lucky if my marriage turns out better than my parents, and I don't think my parent's marriage is anywhere near perfect. My mom's too emotional, and my dad is a very unsocialable person. That said, they've been able to deal with quite a few hardships, along side of raising two kids, and they've never even hinted at divorce.

Also, you bring up a good point in that last paragraph. I'll admit I've been too judgmental. :\

[My Best Wishes]

Darksword, on Apr 3 2010, 04:17 PM, said:

You're hosed.

?

Golden Legacy, on Apr 3 2010, 04:49 PM, said:

That's odd to hear, I have to say. Part of the great fun of the American dating scene is how simple it can be. Notice that cute girl working the register at the Dunkin' Donuts where you get the morning coffee? You catch her eye and you smile, and she smiles back. Ask if maybe she's doing anything after her shift's done. Or you're on the subway or bus, and you're sitting next to someone you find attractive. Start casual conversation, see where it goes, and when you get off at your stop, ask if you want to hang out sometime.

It's quite nice actually. I can't imagine where dating would only be restricted to someone you practically want to marry.

I probably made it sound worse then it is, but down here it's more unless you hook up at a club or pub or party or something, you generally have to know the person first, I can't say I would walk up to the chick at Boost Juice or even my gym for that matter and ask them out.
So you know you are getting my views on it though, I'm sure not everyone Aussie would share my views.

[Lightning Star]

wELL I know that getting into a relationship when you're not planning on it working out is stupid. Like, why bother at that point? Why not save yourself the troulble and keep on with the casuality of whatever's going on and save yourself or osomeone else the heart ache?

At the same time, it's tupid to build your dreams around other people because they'll let you down. people alway slet you doenw. it's a fact of life and really, you're setting you'reself up for disaster. I don't reaaly get why I did and repeated to do so repeatedly.

No more relationships for me. Guys are lame. so are girls. people suck. Life is better off wtihotu relationships AMEN.

[Toasty]

Not to sound like an ass, but I feel like you've said this before, Icy. Only last time, it was just about guys.

[ThankMeLater]

Icy, on Apr 3 2010, 12:27 AM, said:

i'M DRUNKL.

and there's why, toasty.

also, freepost.

[Lightning Star]

I am editing this shit because is houldn'at have said t.

[Someone Else]

Well it's pretty much why I only have a handful of friends atm, I've always seemed to have bad luck with other people. I didn't even expect much out of friends and 80% of them boned me someway or the other, been that way my whole life. That could just be the downside of having gone to small public schools though, where everyone knows pretty much everybody so drama happens. *shrug* College seems to have a better community around it so far, maybe if I could just find a chick that I like everything'd be set.

[Toasty]

That's why I like hanging around with my church friends whom I've known for forever. Might've had some rough spots in elementary/middle school, but we were all immature back then like everyone else anyway, so....

[Someone Else]

I'm not particularly religious but I kinda wish I was involved with a church. They seem to have good communities around them, plus one of my friends gets most of her money from doing odd jobs for her church. And I like money.

[Toasty]

Well, just make sure that if you decide to join a church, that you don't do it just for the community. That really shouldn't be a major factor in your decision either, if you choose to do so. That's all I really have to say on the matter.

[Lightning Star]

Funny, I stopped going to my "youth group" in church because I hated the community >>

[Someone Else]

You hate everything! Except me <3

[gsninja]

She hates everything because she's a woman. :l

I'm a natural introvert. Even though I became much more social starting with sophomore year of high school, I still get along fine without the constant company of friends. A problem with me, though, is that around the same time, I started to become really, really asocial. I can't feel close with anyone anymore, which is also why I have no interest in finding a relationship. I respect my friends, sure, and I'd never, ever talk behind their backs or do anything to betray them, but because I know for a fact that there's such a good chance that they'd stab me in the back, even unintentionally, there's just a reaction in me that kinda holds me back from developing friendships much further than "good".

Also, I think I can attribute my asocial attitude with the fact that I used to be something of a personal psychiatrist to some of my friends in high school. I got so absolutely sick of people complaining to me about things they should've been able to handle themselves that I eventually just tore myself away from any involvement into people's personal matters, which again explains why I'm not close to people outside my family anymore.

[Lightning Star]

Someone Else, on Apr 4 2010, 12:23 AM, said:

You hate everything! Except me <3

Heh, so you think. But honestly, I know others far worse than me.

I just generally dislike people until I get to know them well. I will be polite and courteous, but I'm generally skeptical of most people my age or younger. People are...stupid. That's the best way I can say it :(

Are things starting to make sense now?

[Mallick]

Women--let alone YOU--will never make sense.

[Lightning Star]

are you disagreeing that people are stupid? How does that not make sense? D:

[Toasty]

He simply stating that your state of mind confounds and confuzzles him.

As it does me.

And every other guy that will ever read what you've just written on this stone tablet of the internet.

[Lightning Star]

Its because I use logic when it comes to relationships but NOBODY ELSE seems to want to try this. e.e

[Mallick]

Icy, on Apr 5 2010, 12:26 AM, said:

Its because I use logic when it comes to relationships but NOBODY ELSE seems to want to try this. e.e

You're too emotional to use logic when it comes to relationships. /thred

[Quacnar]

Icy, on Apr 5 2010, 03:26 AM, said:

Its because I use logic when it comes to relationships but NOBODY ELSE seems to want to try this. e.e

Can you explain to me your point, Icy? I got a little confused in all of the posting. Relationshisp aren't worth it? Or something like that....?

[Lightning Star]

Okay, I see where you guys got confused. When I said "is it starting to make sense now?" I was indirectly hinting to the fact that so many people went WTF when they found out I was dating Nos. Because we both hate people. A lot.

Before that all happened, like Nov/dec I was trying to convince myself I was done with relationships and I didn't want anyone but my low self esteem and the desire to be wanted made me fall for pretty much anyone who showed interest. Hence the past relationship. Unfortunately I got far too attached, let my emotions get in the way of logic, and put up with so much bulshit and let myself get hurt continually over something that was never really there (apparently).

NOW that it's over, I've walked away with much higher self esteem becaue I finally realize, hey, I deserve way better. Maybe I am being a bit emotional when I say I don't want another relationship after this, but I realize that its only smart to get in a relationship when you're fully secure with yourself and everything else going on in your life. And right now, I'm doing being the one to chase after others. I don't even want to be chased. I just want to focus on myself for a while and get my other priorities in order and just enjoy my life as it is now, instead of constantly wishing for something more.

I love how this song came on shuffle when I was writing it:

"I'm just trying to be creative
but everyone's so opinionated
they wanna tell me what I'm feeling
'cause one man's junk's another's treasure
when it's done it's hard to measure."


tl;dr - I just got screwed over so I'm done with relationships for a while so I can recuperate and get life back in order.

[ThankMeLater]

icy dated nos?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.pnghttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7206/epicry.png

[I'm Always BROKE]

Really?

Well, it doesn't suprise me much... You indeed both hate people.

[ThankMeLater]

to be fair, it's not dating if you haven't in fact gone on a date. they just talked over msn, told each other they loved one another, masturbated over cam, and fucked off.. there was no dating.

[Ironsight]

ThankMeLater, on Apr 5 2010, 04:44 PM, said:

icy dated nos?

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/647/1269723867202.jpg

[Lightning Star]

ThankMeLater, on Apr 5 2010, 04:54 PM, said:

to be fair, it's not dating if you haven't in fact gone on a date. they just talked over msn, told each other they loved one another, masturbated over cam, and fucked off.. there was no dating.

There was none of the above either, you tard. There were feelings, exclusivity and a promise to be together at one point (which was obviously broken). Oh you people and thinking you know everything. :(

Yep. Still hate people.

[ThankMeLater]

Exclusivity of what? talking to each other? you two didn't do anything that should be up for exclusivity.


date
/deɪt/ Show Spelled [deyt] Show IPA noun, verb,dat·ed, dat·ing.

6.
an appointment for a particular time: They have a date with their accountant at ten o'clock.
7.
a social appointment, engagement, or occasion arranged beforehand with another person: to go out on a date on Saturday night.
8.
a person with whom one has such a social appointment or engagement: Can I bring a date to the party?
14.
to go out socially on dates: She dated a lot during high school.
18.
to make a date with; go out on dates with: He's been dating his best friend's sister.

Now elaborate, please, Alyssa, what makes you think you guys were actually dating?

[Lightning Star]

You ommited definitions to chose the ones you think fit your definition of dating, moron.

Honestly, I only wanted to castrate one person. But I think that has changed to two now.

[ThankMeLater]

Icy, on Apr 5 2010, 09:05 PM, said:

You ommited definitions to chose the ones you think fit your definition of dating, moron.

Honestly, I only wanted to castrate one person. But I think that has changed to two now.

1.
a particular month, day, and year at which some event happened or will happen: July 4, 1776 was the date of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
2.
the day of the month: Is today's date the 7th or the 8th?
3.
an inscription on a writing, coin, etc., that shows the time, or time and place, of writing, casting, delivery, etc.: a letter bearing the date January 16.

http://dictionary.re...com/browse/date nope, nadda, wrong, ehhhhh, nien, try again. i merely left out irrelevant definitions.

and i'll ask it again, just so i know you cant miss it...

Elaborate, please, Alyssa, what makes you think you guys were actually dating?

[Lightning Star]

Just because we weren't in the same presence to fuck around did not mean that we weren't dating. I wouldn't do anything with another person, and neither would he. We both felt an emotional attachment towards one another because (at one point) we really liked each other. Also, it was due to the fact that he told me he would apply to a college out here and told me he would find a way to make it out here, the fact that we WOULD be together physically and we wouldn't see other people in the meantime made it, in our minds, a relationship.

Call whatever you want, but we had SOMETHING. But thank you captain asshole for rubbing in my face that what we had wasn't enough. It's not like it's a fucking sore subject or anything. I've had enough people criticize me for what I did wrong, yet nobody seems to think that applying to your ex-girlfriends college, out of all the schools in the US, is any fucking grounds for concern. So if at this point, that's what relationships are about, I'm fucking done with them, kay?

End of fucking story.

[ThankMeLater]

whatever. internet dating is not dating, by definition amongst other things and you had an infatuation, not a relationship.

but im done.. the only way this conversation can end is by me ending up the bad guy.

[Lightning Star]

Just trying to tell me what I felt and what we had when you didn't even know it existed until now seems very arrogant. Though truth be told, I pretty much find anyone who bashes long distance relationships and has never been in one to be highly annoying. So don't take it personally.

[gsninja]

Well, looking at definition number six:

6.
an appointment for a particular time: They have a date with their accountant at ten o'clock.

If they made appointments to talk to each other at specific times, then hey...wouldn't that technically be dating?

Still, I've got nothing against long distance relationships. As long as people are aware that talking about them openly over the internet will result in some kind of argument, there won't be problems.

[ThankMeLater]

Icy, on Apr 5 2010, 10:19 PM, said:

Just trying to tell me what I felt and what we had when you didn't even know it existed until now seems very arrogant. Though truth be told, I pretty much find anyone who bashes long distance relationships and has never been in one to be highly annoying. So don't take it personally.

im not saying you didnt like dude, but it wasnt a relationship.. don't take it personally.

and a long distant relationship, and saying "hey, let's go out" over msn are different things.

[Quacnar]

I kind of think Skidz is right, at least on a technicality. Although the relationship between Icy and Nos was in no way invalid, you can't call it dating if no dates occur.

[My Best Wishes]

There were feelings involved, a level of commitment and a desire to see each other. Whilst I'm not a fan of internet relationships, I'm siding with Icy on this one.
Skdiz, you are hardly, let alone always right, stop bludgeoning people with your opinion.

[ThankMeLater]

My Best Wishes, on Apr 5 2010, 11:54 PM, said:

There were feelings involved, a level of commitment and a desire to see each other. Whilst I'm not a fan of internet relationships, I'm siding with Icy on this one.
Skdiz, [b]you are hardl[y/b], let alone always right, stop bludgeoning people with your opinion.

uh, how about fuck you? you could've just said you sided with icy, was that last bit at all nessesary? didn't think so. kthxbye

[My Best Wishes]

Was I expressing how I felt when it wasn't relevant or needed? Sorry then ol' boy.

[ThankMeLater]

what's that, can't hear you over the sound of my girlfriend draining my dick like a fucking vacuum cleaning, you VIRGIN CUNT

[Someone Else]

That's enough there Dipsy, go back to your bong. Or joint. Whatever you prefer,

Not a fan of internet, or long distance relationships in general either but I don't think you can invalidate it without really knowing anything about it. Supposedly it works for some people, but I'd never recommend it.

[Lemontime]

ThankMeLater, on Apr 6 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

what's that, can't hear you over the sound of my girlfriend draining my dick like a fucking vacuum cleaning, you VIRGIN CUNT

haha man your dick must be fucking HUGE

[My Best Wishes]

ThankMeLater, on Apr 6 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

what's that, can't hear you over the sound of my girlfriend draining my dick like a fucking vacuum cleaning, you VIRGIN CUNT

Because I haven't stated I believe in sex after marriage and in being benevolent virtuous and chaste? Now, after knowing this, what in the above quote should make me feel bad?

[Sea of Time]

I'm literally shocked that Icy hasn't left this forum for good. For reals. I've always maintained that dating and being in a relationship is exactly the same thing so if you're in a relationship over the internet then hell, I guess you're dating. I didn't need to pull out a dictionary to figure that shit out.

But inter-GSSF relationships? I thought I taught you all the downside of doing that. =)

[Lightning Star]

So am I. In fact, I wasn't even at the forum when this all started. I wasn't even expecting it to happen, was hesitant to let it happen for this very reason. I was planning to leave the forum a couple of days ago, but then Alec kindly reminded me that I shouldn't let some bad memories ruin something that I enjoy.

Sometimes I actually do like coming here 'cause y'all can be entertaining from time to time. sometimes

But yes. When it comes to the internet relationships? As they say, 3rd times the charm. Besides, I'm pretty sure I don't like anyone else here.

Sorry Dipsy :( And hey, no hard feelings. I didn't mean to start an argument--I just hate it when people try to tell me what I'm feeling.

[My Best Wishes]

Who did you date? (Directed at SoT)
I know of
Icy and Silo
Yuki and l3luemage
Nos and Sheba
Icy and Nos

[Quacnar]

My Best Wishes, on Apr 6 2010, 08:57 PM, said:

Who did you date? (Directed at SoT)
I know of
Icy and Silo
Yuki and l3luemage
Nos and Sheba
Icy and Nos

There was that girlfriend of his that was here for a short time and then got her account removed.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Yes, and she was pretty hot iirc. :(

[Toasty]

I'm just amazed that he got his girlfriend onto a nerdy gaming forum.

Not meant as a derogatory remark towards this place, but it's true. And there's nothing wrong with being nerdy. :(

[I'm Always BROKE]

In these modern times no... Nerdy is okay I think. But being socially awkward or retarded is not. It's all about personality, and nerdy is generally accepted.

Except most nerds still are unambitious, socially awkward and unattractive so... >_> Girls still want hot nerds.

But this ain't real rocket science here. Seems pretty logical to me.

[Sea of Time]

Toasty, on Apr 6 2010, 07:40 PM, said:

I'm just amazed that he got his girlfriend onto a nerdy gaming forum.

Not meant as a derogatory remark towards this place, but it's true. And there's nothing wrong with being nerdy. :(

Honestly, I don't play video games much anymore and I'm not nearly the internet junkie I was a few years ago. I come back here for you guys because the people who've stuck around make a pretty damn good team. I don't think of this much as a nerdy forum anymore (just look at the dead activity of the Video Games and Tech forums). There's just an unspoken acceptance among the people here that we're all weirdly connected and I think that's pretty cool.

She mostly got into it because of my fanfic, since it was something I was passionate about and this was the only place that had it posted.

To sum up... this.

Quote

Sometimes I actually do like coming here 'cause y'all can be entertaining from time to time. sometimes

[I'm Always BROKE]

This place is pretty good yeah. We've been through a lot of shitty periods, but everyone is cool now.

Icy posting drunk only made it better. :(

Seriously, you should all come to Amsterdam sometime to visit me. ^^

[Sea of Time]

Icy posting drunk = best day of the last three years = why she shouldn't leave. IMO. =D

[I'm Always BROKE]

Doubt she'll be doing it again though. But I'll gladly withness it.

[Ironsight]

Sea of Time, on Apr 6 2010, 04:10 PM, said:

I'm literally shocked that Icy hasn't left this forum for good. For reals. I've always maintained that dating and being in a relationship is exactly the same thing so if you're in a relationship over the internet then hell, I guess you're dating. I didn't need to pull out a dictionary to figure that shit out.

But inter-GSSF relationships? I thought I taught you all the downside of doing that. =)

My Best Wishes, on Apr 6 2010, 05:57 PM, said:

Who did you date? (Directed at SoT)
I know of
Icy and Silo
Yuki and l3luemage
Nos and Sheba
Icy and Nos

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1323/1268556765143.jpg

Icy, on Apr 6 2010, 05:57 PM, said:

So am I. In fact, I wasn't even at the forum when this all started. I wasn't even expecting it to happen, was hesitant to let it happen for this very reason. I was planning to leave the forum a couple of days ago, but then Alec kindly reminded me that I shouldn't let some bad memories ruin something that I enjoy.

Sometimes I actually do like coming here 'cause y'all can be entertaining from time to time. sometimes

But yes. When it comes to the internet relationships? As they say, 3rd times the charm. Besides, I'm pretty sure I don't like anyone else here.

Sorry Dipsy :( And hey, no hard feelings. I didn't mean to start an argument--I just hate it when people try to tell me what I'm feeling.

Don't leave ussssssss.

[ThankMeLater]

Icy, on Apr 6 2010, 06:57 PM, said:

Sorry Dipsy :( And hey, no hard feelings. I didn't mean to start an argument--I just hate it when people try to tell me what I'm feeling.

I never tried to tell you what you felt, I tried-- oh fuck it, i'm not even. just ya, truce.

[Toasty]

You just love to argue. :P

Sea of Time, on Apr 6 2010, 07:04 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't play video games much anymore and I'm not nearly the internet junkie I was a few years ago. I come back here for you guys because the people who've stuck around make a pretty damn good team. I don't think of this much as a nerdy forum anymore (just look at the dead activity of the Video Games and Tech forums). There's just an unspoken acceptance among the people here that we're all weirdly connected and I think that's pretty cool.

She mostly got into it because of my fanfic, since it was something I was passionate about and this was the only place that had it posted.

To sum up... this.

This is all true.

[Lightning Star]

I think I should win an award for having the most inter-gssf relationships. You forgot the big one: me and ForteGX, for about 2 years.

To which I must look back and say:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2879/1264091579kirkrofl.gif

Anyways. Didn't Somia and MarsDjinni have something too? Also, Yuki and Silo dated for a short while, as well as Kate and Forte waaaaaaay the fuck back when. Oh, her and Raven, as well as Raven and Kiku. Damn.

*sigh* makes me slightly nostalgic.

@Diddy/SOT: Oh no. I'm pretty sure there's plenty more where that came from. Drinking is my new coping method. I'm very emotional. I have about half a bottle of smirnoff/vodka left. Need I say more?

[Someone Else]

If I make it to my current "dream job" to be an architect and make lotsa money, I'ma rent a cruise ship and all of the GSSFers will be invited. We'll probably all be in our 40s and maybe a couple of us 50 by that time but whatever I <3 you guys

[Sea of Time]

You could say that you're cracking it open tonight....

How do we have this many inter-GSSF relationships?! I mean, this community isn't THAT close is it?

[Ironsight]

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/990/spinthebottlepllm.jpg

[Lightning Star]

We're not as close as we used to be. But there are still a few of us who linger around from the days when this place was in its infancy, and huh. I dunno. You get sucked in, or something. I blame MSN.

@WD: heh. I'll pitch in with my doctor/stripper money. :)

EDIT: AWWWWWWWWW! Nostalgia! :(

[Someone Else]

I just don't really see a point in leaving a forum, unless the content offends you or absolutely everyone hates you or something.

[Lightning Star]

Not really leaving just...moving on and distancing myself from it. A lot of people have just kinda faded out of coming here due to the demands of real life. I myself disappeared for a while 'cause I had stuff to do with school and my friends were taking up most of my time. Which they still do, but school has begun to take a back seat...and that's bad D:

[Quacnar]

Someone Else, on Apr 7 2010, 12:34 AM, said:

I just don't really see a point in leaving a forum, unless the content offends you or absolutely everyone hates you or something.

[Toasty]

And your point is? The only people who actually hate you on here, to my knowledge, is Skidz, Caael, and Lego. And I'm only 100% sure about Skidz.

For while there, I started to kinda distance myself from this place, because I couldn't find anything worth discussing. I'll probably end up doing that again though. Not like leaving, but just only coming around once every other day. Or maybe just peek in once a day.

Dunno. Depends, I guess.


ANYWAY. I'm interested in girls again wooo! a girl again. Discuss!

[Sea of Time]

I highly doubt that anyone actually hates Icy. Some people just get a kick out of bugging girls because, let's face it, it's easy most of the time when she's the only active girl atm. I still maintain my amazement that girls even stick around here for periods of time with all the shit they get from some members.

Quote

ANYWAY. I'm interested in girls again wooo! a girl again. Discuss!

I don't know if you want to open this can of worms again Toasty. But good for you. Deets plz.

[Someone Else]

FUCK HER HARD

[Sea of Time]

Someone Else, on Apr 6 2010, 11:23 PM, said:

FUCK HER HARD

This is what I mean. =) It's just so easy! COME ON!

[Toasty]

=(

You guys are killing my innocence...

[Quacnar]

Sea of Time, on Apr 7 2010, 01:23 AM, said:

I highly doubt that anyone actually hates Icy.

It wasn't about Icy, it was about me.

It really sucks being gay and in high school. I'm the only openly gay student in my small school, and I don't have the confidence/time to find a young gay community within my area. :(

[Mallick]

Someone Else, on Apr 6 2010, 10:23 PM, said:

FUCK HER HARD

Hahahaha I love you.

[Caael]

Toasty, on Apr 7 2010, 06:21 AM, said:

And your point is? The only people who actually hate you on here, to my knowledge, is Skidz, Caael, and Lego. And I'm only 100% sure about Skidz.

For while there, I started to kinda distance myself from this place, because I couldn't find anything worth discussing. I'll probably end up doing that again though. Not like leaving, but just only coming around once every other day. Or maybe just peek in once a day.

Dunno. Depends, I guess.


ANYWAY. I'm interested in girls again wooo! a girl again. Discuss!

The fuck you get that from? I dont hate him, far from it. Infact I'd say I'm one of the more tolerant members of him, but he can, as we all do, post stupidly sometimes. I'm just there to pick up on that and exploit it like the lovable bastard I am <3

And I actually remember all that nostalgia stuff way back in the IIMN days. Now I feel old :<

[Lemontime]

Mike Babcock, on Apr 7 2010, 04:39 PM, said:

Hahahaha I love you.

FUCK HIM HARD

[I'm Always BROKE]

killercoz, on Apr 7 2010, 07:44 AM, said:

It wasn't about Icy, it was about me.

It really sucks being gay and in high school. I'm the only openly gay student in my small school, and I don't have the confidence/time to find a young gay community within my area. :(

You might be a bit too open?? Seriously, my best friend is gay and he has no problems at all at school. And he's pretty openly gay, but you wouldn't think so if you'd see him. Maybe that's your problem?

[ThankMeLater]

Toasty, on Apr 6 2010, 11:21 PM, said:

And your point is? The only people who actually hate you on here, to my knowledge, is Skidz, Caael, and Lego. And I'm only 100% sure about Skidz.

For while there, I started to kinda distance myself from this place, because I couldn't find anything worth discussing. I'll probably end up doing that again though. Not like leaving, but just only coming around once every other day. Or maybe just peek in once a day.

Dunno. Depends, I guess.
ANYWAY. I'm interested in girls again wooo! a girl again. Discuss!

i dont hate him, nor do i hate icy. never havfe.

[Split Infinity]

Are we starting a therapy circle? Nobody hates anyone here, cool your darn jets.

CARESS HER GENTLY

[I'm Always BROKE]

Start a new topic maybe?

Also coz, I don't hate you might you think that.

[Lightning Star]

I HATE YOU ALL.

<3

@SOT: I've just kinda learned to roll with the punches. I don't really take anything you guys say seriously, unless someone tries to purposely kick me when I'm down (and even then, that's usually over MSN, and I think only 2 people are capable of doing so.) Though truth be told, I kinda like being the only girl. *attention whore*

[Quacnar]

Diddy Kong, on Apr 7 2010, 06:31 AM, said:

You might be a bit too open?? Seriously, my best friend is gay and he has no problems at all at school. And he's pretty openly gay, but you wouldn't think so if you'd see him. Maybe that's your problem?

I don't understand your suggestion, be less openly gay?

[Toasty]

That probably wouldn't be a bad idea.

Caael, on Apr 7 2010, 02:34 AM, said:

The fuck you get that from? I dont hate him, far from it. Infact I'd say I'm one of the more tolerant members of him, but he can, as we all do, post stupidly sometimes. I'm just there to pick up on that and exploit it like the lovable bastard I am <3

And I actually remember all that nostalgia stuff way back in the IIMN days. Now I feel old :<

I dunno. I coulda sworn you were jerk to him at some point or something. But then again, I might be biased. :(

[Someone Else]

Man lotsa people here are douches to each other. It's out of love though, er I think.

[Toasty]

Sure, we can go with that.

[Lightning Star]

Man...love? man-lovin? :(

Omnomnom. <3

Personally, I actually don't hate any member. Honestly. I might want to castrate a few of you from time to time, but like WD said, it's only outa love ^^.

[Caael]

Made it official today, after seeing each other for a few weeks.

[Golden Legacy]

Aww pumpkin, you didn't have to tell everyone. :)

[Caael]

It just seemed right <3

[Sea of Time]

Don't fuck this one up, kid. *noogie* =)

[Someone Else]

Grats with teh wimmens Caael.

[Mallick]

Wear protection.
http://www.fakecrap.com/images/jokes/small_pecker_condoms.jpg

[ThankMeLater]

beat me to it

[Aquamarine]

A couple of days ago was my two month anniversary with my girlfriend. Took her out for dinner and had a great time.

I've never been this long with a girl in my life. :/ Shame I'm not in love with her...

[ThankMeLater]

IT seems like the relationship is meaningless, so you should probably just end it now so she doesn't have to deal with your pathetic ass any longer than absolutely necessary

See, isn't so fun when people do it to you, is it, shithead?

[Aquamarine]

Wow, am I sensing waves of emo radiating from the above post.

[Mallick]

Aquamarine, on May 7 2010, 10:31 AM, said:

Wow, am I sensing waves of emo radiating from the above post.

You're not the kind of guy to admit being in the wrong, are you? :\

[Aquamarine]

No, I am. Honestly I am. But here's this asshole who I remember used to be hated by most people on the boards for having asshole comments about every single thing having a go at me after I finally come back to GSSF after months of relative inactivity and a whole month of not even lurking, and for no real reason since I honestly didn't mean to hurt anyone's delicate feelings. But hey, I'm not going to slit my wrist over it like Dipsy is obviously doing.

[ThankMeLater]

u mad?

[Aquamarine]

u emo much?

[Sea of Time]

Heyz you guyz u need 2 have ovr 5 wrds 2 nt be spam lolololollolololol

[Toasty]

For some reason I feel compelled to post about some recent developments in my love life, but there's this little voice in the back of my head saying that it'd be a pretty stupid idea to do so.

So I won't.

[Someone Else]

okay

[Caael]

Thank christ.

[Golden Legacy]

Toasty, I'd be happy to listen and provide whatever feedback I can provide.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, me too. Interested to hear what's been going on.

[Caael]

Going round gf's in a few hours and she has a 'surprise' for me. Little bit nervous.

[gsninja]

Toasty, on May 21 2010, 01:47 AM, said:

For some reason I feel compelled to post about some recent developments in my love life, but there's this little voice in the back of my head saying that it'd be a pretty stupid idea to do so.

So I won't.

Making a post like that is just begging for attention to your developments.

Caael, on May 22 2010, 08:50 AM, said:

Going round gf's in a few hours and she has a 'surprise' for me. Little bit nervous.

Good luck, mang. No need to be too nervous, but hey, "surprises" are good. :)

[Aquamarine]

Maybe she wants to break up with you.

...

Good luck, mang.