[My Best Wishes]

DullahanX7, on Feb 14 2005, 08:08 AM, said:

in the third goldensun you could travel to the moon and find the lost city of animos.... or maby they come back down to thatgiant crater and you meet em...

What acually was in that big crater? did it ever say in the game?

[TheDogWho]

It was where the city of Anemos was but one day it floated away and became the Moon.

[DullahanX7]

no no no it floated away and landed on the moon

[Mars Djinni]

DullahanX7, on Feb 16 2005, 02:31 PM, said:

no no no it floated away and landed on the moon

Oh, it did? I though Anemos became the moon...

[Celestial Paladin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't actually beat the game yet, but didn't Alex die at the end? Something about being crushed another Mount Aleph or something -- or maybe that was fan-made... O.o

[DullahanX7]

he was crushed by the mountain but we are not sure if he survived or not...

The wise one did hint that he may or may not suvive...

[gsninja]

Mars Djinni, on Feb 19 2005, 01:27 PM, said:

Oh, it did? I though Anemos became the moon...

It did become the moon. I think it would be cool to visit the Anemos civilization in a GS3.

A GS3 could probably give more detail about things such a the Stone of Sages and how Weyard was like in the Golden Age.

[catastrophe]

Thats a hard one. It would so stupid not to, and it was a great selling game, but if there was going to be one why haven't they said somthing yet. It worries me but i still think there wil be one.

[Platinum Sun]

I sincerely hope so, I really wanted to fight Alex and that annoying cycloptic rock.
Catastrophe's grammatical corrections:
apostrophe in that's, "it would so stupid"? and 2 ll's in will

[DullahanX7]

I thought u played as alex in GS3
(more places to travel now that weyard is being rebuilt)

[Platinum Sun]

You can't play as alex in GS3; there is no GS3! There are no plans for a GS3, not so much as a doodle on the back of a napkin about GS3. This topic is merely to speculate about how ridiculously cool a Gs3 game would be.

[DullahanX7]

And how would you know?
there is no solid evidance that there isn't going to be a GS3

[Ganon]

He has a point.

Not even a doodle? Rather drastic...

[golden_djiin]

and even so,one of us could become a video game constructor guy and make it in the future...mwuhahah!XDjust to prove that it might happen.if so,you should be able to choose between playing good or evil,and when playing good,you could choose which four you get out of the 8 people of the 1st two GSs have as main charecter,if you don't want a wind adept,you could get two fire adepts,and so on.or you could do all 8,from where tyou left off in the previous game,starting at lv.50.and alex is the villian...and it should be for gamecube.three-3!

[Ravenblade]

This has probably been stated but its my understanding that they hinted at some GS based game for either the GameCube or the Revolution. It probably won't keep any of the characters and will have a mostly different plot minus the essentials, but it could still happen.

[Gamingstaff]

I personally think that they won't do it. It would have been out by now! Look how long it has been, and if it does come out, it better be good to be keeping all us addicts waiting.

[golden_djiin]

i wish they would come out with virtual reality games soon...XDthat'd be fun.
but mabye there making GS3 for gamecube,X-box,and playstation.it would be harder.its like making the same thing three times.

[Gamingstaff]

I don't know. We should just send them an email or a note, ask them :-D.

[gsninja]

golden_djiin, on Mar 4 2005, 10:40 AM, said:

i wish they would come out with virtual reality games soon...XDthat'd be fun.
but mabye there making GS3 for gamecube,X-box,and playstation.it would be harder.its like making the same thing three times.

I would prefer a GS3 to stay with the Nuintendo systems, it seems more original. Anyway, Camelot worked with Nintendo, and I don't think Nintendo would want their games specific for their company playing on Sony's products.

[Lind]

It would be nice if we could make a flash GS over the internet. You know, a fan-game.

:lol:

[Ravenblade]

Wait..they made an official announcement and yet no one here has got wind of it? That strikes me as a bit odd - if there was it would be all over the internet surely...unless ive been missing something...

[Manning sucks]

Shane2005, on Mar 14 2005, 07:01 AM, said:

there is gonna be a GS3 because Camelot announced it on channel 4 five weeks ago. Sometime released in early/mid 2006.

"Wait..they made an official announcement and yet no one here has got wind of it? That strikes me as a bit odd - if there was it would be all over the internet surely...unless ive been missing something..."

-Ravenblade

Sorry, I don't know how to qote two people if there is a way.

Anyway, I agree With Ravenblade, if there was one it would be all over the internet and the Camelot site.

Second, where not all where you are from, so we all don't have the same sourses as you do. There has been nothing on any of the sites.

[Lind]

Camelot is a third party developer for Nintendo. We won't see them make a game for any other company. Darn those execs at Nintendo! If they hadn't made Camelot stop and make all those Mario sports games, we'd have our GS3!!!

[Yokutai]

Actually Golden Sun : The Lost age took about 2 - 3 years to release and judging by how its only been like 2 and half years since then, Theres still a chance Golden Sun 3 might be released.

But what there going to use as a story is beyond me :D

[Blink]

I wouldn't be surprized if you took another minor role. Maybe Susa or something? I haven't any idea. You would end up having everyone on your team in the end though, and I'm guessing(since I doubt Agatio was Saturos's brother) that you'll end up fighting Alex and Saturos's brother and HIS partner.

[golden_djiin]

mabye the last boss in GS3 will have 4 heads!XDor mabye you fight the wise one.and alex betrayed karst ana agatio at the jupiter lighthouse,so he probably wouldn't fight with saturos's partner/brother.

[Illidan]

Looks like they're leading to it being official. That's great news, I can't wait. I hope they don't change their minds. ^^;;

[golden_djiin]

at the end of GS2:TLA,it shows alex sinking down with mt.aleph.and the wise one said its nearly impossible for him to get out.mabye you get to fight the wise one.that'd be cool.

[Yardo]

I certainly hope they bring out GS3. I'd like to play as a different character like Alex or Susa as someone has already said.

[Lind]

Going back to what was said on the last page, it takes years for release of a game because it takes that long to MAKE a game. Becuase of the insanely high standards of games today, most takes years toproduce the good ones. The only exception to this rule seems to be the Ratchet and Clank series, which makes me think the company making it calls itself Imsomniac for a good reason.

If Camelot began making a new GS game today, we wouldn't have it until likely next summer or fall.

[gsninja]

That's true. Most of the great games today probably took at least two year to make. If a GS3 comes out, Alex should survive sinking underground and try to takerevenge on the Wise One and to take the remaining power of the Golden Sun from Isaac. Isaac should have a part with the Golden Sun, maybe giving him special abilities that none of the other adepts have...

I doubt that you would be fighting the Wise One, as he is still a protagonist character after all.

Because you fight dragons in both the GS games, the Fusion Dragon having two heads and the Doom Dragon having three heads, I agree with golden_djinn that there will probably be a dragon with four heads as the final bass of the game.

[Spirit Icana]

LuxLucis, on Mar 22 2005, 04:06 AM, said:

I think if they do make it, they will need to add in something new. Another Golden Sun would be great, but giving us the same world, with the same elements, and the same Djinn would just seem cheap. >_>

Remember the scene in Lemuria where King Hydros revealed a map of Weyard for Kraden and Felix to analyze in Golden Sun: The Lost Age? That map displayed the world of Weyard as almost one intacted super continent. That world began to split apart after the power of Alchemy was sealed into the four elemental stars.

Do you think, now that Alchemy has been unleashed, that perhaps this world revealed to us during that scene could possibly be the world we would explore in the next installment of Golden Sun? Civilizations thrived during the Golden Era and perhaps new advancements in royalty, government, and architexture could be build upon the next game. Magic will roam the land now and politics similar to Lemuria could be about. Now, we know how politics always result in the turn about of war and that is where I feel the series has an inevitable concious to continue.

[cucuto89]

It'd be really cool if you could explore more of that underground lake where u fight the pirate dude in GS1 (forget his name), or explore the edge of the world and maybe find a whole new area on the other side.

also it could be like before GS1 (sorry if thats already been posted)

[Isaac702]

I saw a post on a few good reliable web sites about a ds one

[gsninja]

sunwarrier, on Apr 3 2005, 04:43 PM, said:

I hope they do make a goldensun 3 game i really liked the frist two and it would be pritty cool if they remade the games for the game cube and also for the DS to but since i own an Xbox id like them to come out with it for the Xbox to :P  i would defenity buy it.

It's probably not too likely that another installment of GS will be on the XBox, since Camelot worked with Nintendo (I think) to make the GS games.

I was thinking the same thing that SI was explaining. With Alchemy released into Weyard once again, another Golden Era should result once again and civilizations like Lemuria should be restored to their former splendor. There should also be a reference to Sheba's falling to the sky and her relations, as well as Ivan's and Hamma's, to the Anemos. All these answers that were basically unanswered in the previous two GS games (quite a lot of unanswered questions) should all be answered and all fit together in this puzzle about Golden Sun.

[Wiflewood]

From Age of the adepts.com:

"The next installment to GS3 has been announced!

...well, sort of.

You know how E3 is coming up? Well, someone managed to attain acess to Camelot's files they were planning to launch for the new site, as well as all the information to show.

What has been translated so far is this:

-It is called Golden Sun: Dangerous Haven
-The main character is Eoleo (Briggs' son)
-Your party consists of Eoleo, Alex, Jenna, and Sezan (Japanese name, it is a female Venus Adept)
-It is unknown whether you can link up with your party from past games
-It's for the DS

The storyline, or at least what is understood, goes something like this: Since Alchemy has been unleashed, the world is in a sort of harmony. Food and water is plentiful, it's sunny, la dee da. The world isn't going to blow up anymore. However, the dangerous part of unleashing Alchemy was that Soulesses were released-- dark Alchemic beings that roam the world, with a malicious intent.

It's obvious these need to be stopped, but there isn't much of an explanation was to why you are given the party members you are. Why is Alex there? We don't know for exact yet, but my theory is that somehow defeating Soulesses will give you Alchemic power, and Alex is using this for himself. Sezan is from the town of Izumo, also.

Though there aren't many details on the battle system, it's apparent why the DS is going to be used. When unleashing Djinn and Summons, it turns into a Paper Mario style affair-- you have to complete a certain task (such as touching areas in the right order, drawing a correct pattern, etc) and the successfulness will grant a stronger attack. Also, as you are attacking, by doing a certain action, you have a better chance of Unleashing. It is different for each class of weapon, for example, a Sword involves slashing the enemy with a stylus at the right time.

I'll reveal more details in the coming days. One thing can be for sure: this is going to rock!

No screenshots yet. I will get them up in a bit, there is a fair amount"




Hmmm. sounds interesting...

[gsninja]

Well, that stuff may not be true, for all we know. If it is, though...GS3 will be too different than expected...playing as Eoleo? Come on, he was barely a main character. Sure, he has psynergy, but no way should he be a party member. I would doubt Alex would even consider joining, since Isaac holds the rest of the Golden Sun and the Wise One immobilized him, making him sink into Weyard...

[Ravenblade]

GoldenSun and The Lost Age were both fantastic games in my opinion, and they must have been in a lot of other peoples minds too for a following this big to have been created.

If they ever make a GoldenSun3, which to me looks doubtful, then i guess the whole thing will take off once more. I still dont think that if they did that, they would keep the characters though, more likely it'll be set further into the future with references to the past ones.

The games themselves were well thought out, nicely animated and a joy to play, so hopefully, if anything follows it will continue on in that spirit.

Good job Camelot.

~2000~

[Kikuichimonji]

This is probably unrelated to all the other posts said before hand but I have to make this statement, so bear with me.

I came here, infact i joined with the hope of a GS3. I really strongly did there will be one. However, it's been nearly a year and quite frankly, despite saying before I would stay faithful and hope for a GS3,I don't.

It's been nearly 2-3 years since GS-TLA has been released and I think it's time to face facts. Camelot are not going to make a sequel. It's possible for them to do so, but they just won't. I think it's very cruel of them to not give a straight answer and that actually gets me rather annoyed.

I would seriously love for another GS game, it's the best RPG I've played on a hand held, and it would be a such a great game I'd imagine and not over stretching a series at all.


But for me...it's time to face facts, and that's it.

.: 2000 it's time :.

[mastermind]

Kikuichimonji, on Apr 17 2005, 03:28 PM, said:

This is probably unrelated to all the other posts said before hand but I have to make this statement, so bear with me.

I came here, infact i joined with the hope of a GS3. I really strongly did there will be one. However, it's been nearly a year and quite frankly, despite saying before I would stay faithful and hope for a GS3,I don't.

It's been nearly 2-3 years since GS-TLA has been released and I think it's time to face facts. Camelot are not going to make a sequel. It's possible for them to do so, but they just won't. I think it's very cruel of them to not give a straight answer and that actually gets me rather annoyed.

I would seriously love for another GS game, it's the best RPG I've played on a hand held, and it would be a such a great game I'd imagine and not over stretching a series at all.
But for me...it's time to face facts, and that's it.

.: 2000 it's time :.

I can only agree. But for me the main thing that lets me see that there will be no GS3 is not the time but the fact that the main story has ended and everyone lives happily ever after. I still hope there will be a GS3 but i relay doubt it.

[Wiflewood]

Sorry for the bump, but I found the these screenshots on the net.
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9146/gs3screenshot1rn.png
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9168/gs3screenshot29ou.png
I'd guess this is a summon.

[TheDogWho]

Those are probably quite easy to fake. Where did you find them?

[Djinn]

Silo STATIC, on Sep 24 2004, 11:56 AM, said:

I recreated this topic on my part, since I was the one who fused a poll to the last one. My sincerest apologies, since I thought it would work out that way without wasting any more space.

You may continue or restart the conversation. The topic is, "Will there ever be a Golden Sun 3 (GS3)?".

I'm not sure if there will be, but at the end of Golden Sun 2 it pretty much ended it, I just think you guys want too much of a Golden Sun 3 to come up with some excuses for a Golden Sun 3, but I'm one to want a Golden Sun 3 too.

[Djinn]

Wiflewood, on Apr 30 2005, 02:01 AM, said:

Sorry for the bump, but I found the these screenshots on the net.
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9146/gs3screenshot1rn.png
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9168/gs3screenshot29ou.png
I'd guess this is a summon.

There is also this image:
http://www.planetnintendo.com/goldensun/arekkusu_no.png

But I doubt they are real, I won't belive untill I see some movie proof, otherwise this could all be sprite material. :)

[Wiflewood]

True, I found them on a japenese site from a google search.

[water adept]

Wiflewood, on Apr 30 2005, 01:52 PM, said:

True, I found them on a japenese site from a google search.

What did you google search

[Wiflewood]

Try and make your posts more than 5 words please.
I can't remember, but I think it was something like Japenese Golden sun. It was a while a go though.

[Elliott]

It's an abandoned series. Like I've said before, you people are holding onto false hope. The 2 games were fantastic, awesome. It's obvious by the cult following they created. Camelot isn't going to be making a third one, so move on.

[Mycarayne]

Default, on May 4 2005, 08:08 AM, said:

I found this screen on DSCentral.net

It looks pretty fake to me though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/nintendods765/1.jpg

yeah, since when do animated games use realistic pictures of mountains in the background?

I myself hope there is a GS3. I would definetly play it. I need to know how Alex rules over the world...

[Elliott]

Quote

Golden Sun 3, Will there be one?

Thats the topic title and I gave my opinion.

[Colt the earth adept]

Ok just think about it, at the end of gs2 there's is so many things left unsaid. If camelot just packed up gs and left there would be a huge amount of empty space left to fill in the story line.

[Someone Else]

I think Camelot would make new one eventually. ^_^ They'd be stupid not to. They probably get numerous spam a day from losers whining for them to make a prequel. XD They probably are just taking a break from it; kinda like Blizzard taking such a long time to make a StarCraft II. :)

But if they do make a third, I REALLY hope they make new characters. The current ones are cool, but I just want it to take place in a new (or changed) world. =/

[Colt the earth adept]

it may be some of the old ones Like susa being the main character. (He's my favorite character of all!!!!! But yet I have a garet avatar...hmm...)

[Warbird]

They should definatly make a sequal. Not only would it be cool, and probably good for their business, but I seem to remember Kraden mentioning a Stone of Sages thats supposed to appear...?

I dont remember that stone appearing. Or am I just delusional :)

[Colt the earth adept]

The golden sun is the power of the stone of sages if memory serves correct. But I remember that camelot said gs1,2 was just teh beginning for a even bigger quest, what are they planning?

[Black Mage]

Well, Camelot was supposed to announce their new game at E3 this year. It could be a new golden sun game, but i wont get my hopes up completely. We'll just have to wait and see.

[smeagolio]

Maybe at the end of GS2, they wanted us to make up the ending?

[Shikonaurum]

Smeagolio, that's possibly the most reasonable answer I've seen for the most part. ^^

Is something so bad about open-ended endings?

Since E3 is over, what now have we to cling on to? And I also seem to remember that Camelot had more outside demand for a GS3 rather than demand in Japan, which would probably rank as a priority...

[Elliott]

E3 has been and gone with no sign of a Golden Sun 3. It's about time most of you realised, like I did nearly a year ago, that GS3 just ain't coming.
I also agree with smeagolio about open endings.

[Spirit Icana]

The latest rumors that have sprung from Ninja (who's supposedly been right before) or the Gaming-Age forums states that a new Wario Ware and Golden Sun game is in the works for the Nintendo Revolution.

True or false, we'll likely get our answer by the end of this year since Nintendo plans to unviel the Revolution fully before year's end.

[Shadowed Freedom]

:D The rumors of Nintendo Revolution realeasing a GS3 are false. The will be a Golden Sun-like game, but from what my source inside the marketing department of Australia's Nintendo office has told me, it will most-likely not continue the story of the legendary series known as Golden Sun. :P

Though knowing the unrealiability of my source as late, he could be wrong, but I am willing to state "open endings people, open endings". :P

(I hope I won't look like a fool) :rolleyes:

[ishvan]

im just saying that there HAS TO BE ONE! either that or ill go insane.

[Somia]

Lets just wait patiently, that's all we can do anyways..

[Mars Djinni]

Well if It's on Revolution, then I'm sitting out on this one. I don't think I'm going to get a Revolution in the future. But, as Somia said, patience is going to be a virtue that we're gonna have to stick with for the time being.

[el_Sethro]

Default, on May 3 2005, 09:38 PM, said:

I found this screen on DSCentral.net

It looks pretty fake to me though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/nintendods765/1.jpg

:P ha ha ha ha ha!

oh, that's hilarious...

sorry to disappoint you, but that picture is definately a fake, my friend. I'm surprised this pic made it so far... a LOT of forums that have been fooled by that pic, made by an Admin on GBATemp, one of the forums I go to, for April Fool's day.

http://gbatemp.net/i...topic=24922&hl= (proof that Opium made this is a few posts down - check the spoiler)

[Elliott]

Well a new screen for the game would most likely be in Japanese, and not have a real mountain in the background, so it's a safe bet that image is a fake.

[Demon Adept]

There must be a GS3! I'll wait 100 years if I have to! We just have to have patience, that's all.

[Elliott]

That;s pretty much the same thing everyone posts, just look at the evidence though, no sign of a game at E3, ages since the last game, and the game finished nicely, no point, or evidence of a third.

[Tachyon360]

GS:TLA ended pretty much complete, with few questions left unanswered. Wondering whether Alex survived or what happened to Weyard does not constitute a cliffhanger.

It's over people. That's it. Unless Camelot wants to beat a dead horse, a third part to Golden Sun will never come out.

[Elliott]

They should just use their resources to make an entirley new RPG. People would still love it and buy it knwoing it came from them, but it would leave the GS series to rest.

[Water_Adept]

Can't really say, I personally think there is a bad chance of there being one now, but I'm still not giving up hope though.

[Randolph]

There is not point in giving up hope... yet. No one really knows the future until it becomes the present.

[Spirit Icana]

It has been mentioned on many occasions that Camelot is currently working on an RPG for a next generation game system. No word has been mentioned as to what console, or handheld (Camelot has said in the past that no DS games are in the planning stages as of yet) the game will be on.

When considering Camelot and Nintendo's relationship throughout the N64 and GCN era's, signs point to Camelot's next RPG heading to Nintendo's next generation console (though I feel the next Game Boy get's too neglected from many news site reports). And of course, there is that rumor/facts that Ninja, from the Gaming-Age forums, reporting that Golden Sun is in the early stages of development for the Nintendo Revolution right now. I'll provide a link to this in a little bit.

As for my hopes for the next installment in the Golden Sun series; I personally hope the game either plays the part of a true sequel to the original Golden Sun (forgive me for not accepting Lost Age as a true sequel) and continues where that game left off through the perspective of Isaac, or a new beginning with Isaac and Alex playing a good role in the plot (Isaac being the main character would bold best for me).

A whole new story altogether would be nice as well, but I still want a better conclusion to the fantastic original game that absorbed me into it's world and never bidded let go.

For a third Golden Sun game, I would want a balanced, fast pace, and creative battle system. I love the djinns, but I feel a new gameplay mechanic that ditches, or uses them differently, should be found if the next Golden Sun were to take place after the rise of the Golden Sun.

I would like the next Golden Sun game to be on the Nintendo Revolution simply because the game would most likely achieve my most desired results on a console like that. The world of Golden Sun, breathing, moving, and interacting with the player and his avatar character all in lush 3-D and through a flexible camera system, like all the 3-D Zelda games, and not the stale stationary camera angles that most of the 3-D Final Fantasy's and many other RPG's , tend to use.

As for the crew who work on the game; I think Shugo Takahashi is up and capable for the challenge of directing another Golden Sun game, even if it was in 3-D. With his brother at his side, Hiroyuki Takashashi (Presiden of Camelot Software Planning), they should be able to share ideas and make decisions easier.

Shugo Takahasi is the director of the first two Golden Sun games and is Vice-President of Camelot Software Planning, for those who don't know. I personally felt Lost Age was very rushed and unstable in many areas. Though I wish Camelot could go back and fix these mistakes, I think a plotline after the rise of Golden Sun can work toward a new beginning for the series and even for the original characters. I hope the third Golden Sun game is not rushed out to market and that careful planning and effort are put in place. I think the Takahashi Bros. can prove to me that their first time efforts were not a fluke.

Next, I think Shin Yamanouchi (the character designer of the first two Golden Sun games) is very capable and should be the head of character design once again for this game. I do not want any more cliche' character features really (I like Isaac, but the hair style is overdone). Hopefully the art staff can beef up the detail with the characters this time though, and hopefully Camelot can show off some nice CG's, digi-cells, paintings, or something eye pleasing to go along with the game's marketing.

As for musical composer; My favorite composer to date is still Motoi Sakuraba even though I get so aggraviated over the fact that he remixes too much of his old stuff (I blame that on his busy schedule at times though). Though I like Motoi Sakuraba, I don't want the next Golden Sun game to carry on the guys repetitive reputation. I want the game to stand out musically. I want a composer who is willing to try and give the best performance a game has yet to see. I know a number of freelancer composers who pose more hope in me if they were to work on this game, and then I have in mind that new composers can get a start and gain a reputation with this game. I really can't nail this area down to one guy/gal so I'll simply just hope Camelot gets the right guy/gal to work on this game.

I want orchestral pieces to dominant the game's soundtrack for the most part (this is the biggest reason why I would like Golden Sun 3 to be on the Nintendo Revolution), but a good mixture of genres would help to. I don't want another all out jam fest that I felt dominated Sakuraba's work with Lost Age. All most EVERY stinking song in that game was either a remix of Sakuraba's earlier games, or a face pace jam festival with rock drums banging about.

As for writing, I have no clue who wrote the story for either Golden Sun games, but I really liked the first game better than the second one in this area. I think Nintendo of America's "Treehouse" localization department has a good deal in why my opinion is this way. I felt the first Golden Sun was written MUCH better than the second game. I hear people complain about the series carrying too much "unneccessary dialogue" which I tend to disagree with because I feel the dialouge makes the game flow more natural given that the player has really found his place, been absorbed, in the game.

Lost Age, on the other hand, had a main character I knew too much and too little about. I didn't know Felix or I was suppose to know the little secret that says the Lighthouses should be lit because if not, Gaia falls will erode and "the world would be destroyed." You can only imagine how stupid I felt when Jenna and Sheba were practically on their knees begging for me to tell them a secret I knew nothing about.

Oh, and I don't like Kraden! I think the guy takes away from the "adventuring" portions of the game by dishing a lame anaylsis of the area around us every stinking second. In the original Golden Sun, I wouldn't have learned about the "werewolves" right when I enter a town. I would've found out by accidental stumbling upon one suddenly useing "Reveal" and entering a hole in some pile of big rocks.

Oh, and Lost Age has WAY too many distractions! Only 3/4th's of that game had anything to do with getting to the next lighthouse. In the original Golden Sun, while they were sidequests you could've tackled on the way, gave off more of an adrenaline rush. You knew that you were right on track everytime you hear someone blurt out a quibble about an odd pair of people doing miraculous stuff down the vicinity. It was a race to get to the next lighthouse.

Their was no time to take vacations as far as the story goes. There was no stupid remarks like "let's go to Vale. I want to see how it looks like!" in the original Golden Sun like there was in Lost Age. Things were very serious and on task with a good helping of humor for good measure in the original Golden Sun.

I also felt the original Golden Sun had better character development. I hear many people criticize the series in this area and I don't tend to disagree with that notion too much, but I do feel there is character development to be had in Golden Sun, as far as the original game goes; their's almost zero development in Lost Age. In fact, I question that Isaac, Jenna, Ivan, and Mia are even canon in Lost Age! They seem so different in personality when compared to the original. That may have to do with Nintendo's localization though. Oh, and Lost Age tried to be dramatic and failed miserably (this is all my opinions of course).

Okay, now with my over the top Lost Age bashing through (I like the game, it's just too disappointing! The story leaves too much to be desired). I'll finally resort to gameplay now. Hopefully my (maybe "our" one day) Golden Sun Revolution will sport an all new overworld much like what King Hydros showed in Lemuria that displayed one super continent that existed during the Golden Age.

I would hope for more towns, a smaller but more sophisticated world or continent much like the first Golden Sun, and a good helping of well designed mini-games that aren't just there for the heck of it. I want fun mini-games that begs you to come back for more.

No, I'm not just talking about minigames that should be essential to the objective at hand, but minigames that you have an option to play when you enter a town like Tolbi, or a minigame that pits the player to help another human being or animal out. I want good to decent Replay Value as well. Decent only being if the first time experience is absolutely wonderful!

Okay, so this finally ends my lengthy post of dreams, hate, and love all combing into one. As you can see, I just love the world Golden Sun has created and I want this world to grow and expand. Golden Sun grabbed be in a way very few video games have ever done; which is likely due to the result of my expections being unfairly high. Sure, I do lead myself to disappointment often, but it's the games that surpasses my expectations I grow fond of.

The original Golden Sun got a great opinion worthy of me and I hope to see the series do it again in the future. I'll be keeping an eye out on any possibilities of another Golden Sun game; whether it comes out for the Nintendo Revolution, Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Evolution (or whatever the next Game Boy will be called), Gamecube, or even the Super Nintendo Entertainment System!






Edit: Here is the link to Ninja's Revolution line-up: http://forums.gaming...ead.php?t=48799

Apparently, if you read one of the messages he typed a couple posts down, Golden Sun is "assumed" to be the RPG project Camelot is working on for the Nintendo Revolution. We should learn more as the year closes out.

[Steven the hero]

I really hope that they are a GS3 game coming out soon because Golden son is like the god of sword fighting

[Royta]

this is a intervieuw with camelot (I copied it into my pc about 6 months ago).
I can't remember where it's from though

here it is:

Hello there! Last time you heard from me, I was just about to award myself with a nice leaf of catnip…apparently I ate too much, because I woke up several days later with a major headache and some other kitty’s fur all over me. Such is the life of a bachelor cat, I guess!
Well, the big Nintendo rumor right now is that a new Golden Sun game is set to be announced soon for GameCube. There’s no concrete source for these reports…just gossip from Japan. But Golden Sun fans are in a joyous frenzy over it, and who can blame them? The handheld games in this series have their detractors, but there are plenty of people who think you can’t get a better RPG on Game Boy Advance. And I think we all want to see how Camelot would translate those beautiful graphics to the GameCube!
I haven’t heard anything through my LBSN (Little Birdie Spy Network) about this particular rumor, but intuition would say that it has a good chance of being true. You don’t need to rely on intuition though, because I’ve got a bit of historical information that supports the rumor more convincingly. You see, the boys at PGC had a nice, long interview with Camelot’s Takahashi brothers way back at E3 2003. This interview was never published, but I’ve got Jonny’s permission to show off a few excerpts that show how much the Takahashis were planning for Golden Sun even back then. The GBA sequel, Golden Sun: The Lost Age, had just been released in America, and everyone was starting to wonder when the obvious GameCube sequel would be announced. To PGC’s surprise, Shugo and Hiroyuki were more than happy to discuss it!

Takahashi Bros: At the beginning we were planning on just making one title. But, you know, as they we going through the development process we’re like, “We can’t possibly put everything in one Game Boy Advance ROM—er, one cartridge—that we want to do. A LOT!” (laughter) Originally we had made a game called Shining Force 3, and it was popular here in the United States from what we had heard; and, you know, in that game you had the ability to play both the good side and the bad side—the good characters and the bad characters, and that seemed to be a really nice way for the players to understand the entire setting and a good way to convey information and story. And so when we were doing Golden Sun we again thought, well, we could expand upon that. We brought in a Star Wars reference: you have the Empire and you have the Rebels, and if you understand both sides of it, it makes for a more complete story, and that whole type of storytelling methodology we decided they wanted to bring into Golden Sun. You need to understand the motivation behind each individual character’s actions and that sort of thing. And for us, as far as the whole Golden Sun setting, the world, the storyline for us, in our minds, Golden Sun 1 and 2 are prologues to the real event yet to come… So those games are created—again, from our viewpoint—as a way of introducing this world to the game players.
Planet GameCube: Is that introduction leading up to, possibly, a GameCube version of the Golden Sun Universe?
(Laughter)
Takahashi Bros: Do you think people would like to see a GameCube version of Golden Sun?
PGC: Oh yes. Oh yes. I think there was a great deal of confusion at the end of the first Golden Sun game because of the abrupt way in which the game finished. There were definitely a lot of story that was left to be told, and I think that was one of the things people were disappointed in with the first one. So being able to possibly get a complete story with the graphical capabilities and whatnot of the GameCube, I think a lot of people would play with it.
Takahashi Bros: You know, [when you] take a fantasy world, basically, the standard motif is sword and sorcery: you’ve got a sword, you’ve got magic, for example a Lord of the Rings type of thing, and it’s really—it’s almost a complete motif. You’ve got swords and you’ve got sorcery: that’s fantasy. But we are saying [that] if you plant a fantasy world that didn’t include magic, and for us—we really felt that we were more familiar with and had more of a drawing to, say, super ESP or supernatural mental abilities. Things of that sort were more familiar and we thought we’d create a world where the ESP type of powers would be very appealing to a worldwide audience. And so, one thing…fantasy role-playing games could have people who have these magic powers, and yet still had to go through and step on the switch to open the door, press the block to get everything …we really wanted to give a feeling, give the players a feeling of extraordinary ability able to move them around, doing things without, maybe, some of that tedium. And that’s still really what we want to bring to people…hopefully [with] the foundation work we’ve done so far, and, for a Nintendo console, whether it’s GameCube or something else, but we definitely want to continue with that lead and create a world that people—gamers who love that sort of game—will be able to experience.
PGC: Yeah, I think that really is a big advantage of Golden Sun, is that you can take the magic outside of the battles.
Takahashi Bros: We want to do so much more! Yeah, we just really want to do much more with the ESP, the ability to fight for the riddle in the end that the sequel presents. And, again, just, if we are able to use that effectively, the amount of varied gameplay we can bring is just tremendous.

All of this stuff should be interesting to Golden Sun fans, but I bolded the most important parts for you. See, Camelot has wanted to do a console Golden Sun RPG for a while! They really think of the GBA games as being an introduction to the world, a prologue to the real story yet to come. And they want to take the idea of using ESP powers outside of battle and do many new things with it. You can bet that if and when a console Golden Sun game is announced, it will fulfill both of these goals. My whiskers are tingling with anticipation! Current rumors also specifically mention a multiplayer mode, but that really shouldn’t be surprising, since both of the GBA games had link cable support. Maybe the GameCube version will take the idea much further, though.
By the way, what about Camelot’s other big console game, Mario Tennis? Nintendo showed a few brief moments of it on video at this year’s E3, but otherwise the game has been in total seclusion…despite being announced simultaneously with Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, which has been out for a year! There were certainly some crazy things going on in that E3 video, but some rumors, fueled by the Nintendo’s E3 2004 press kit, say the real reason for the game’s long development time is that it will be incorporating a LAN mode or possibly even real online gameplay. Well, guess what - PGC asked the Takahashis about this too, back in the same interview.

PGC: Is Camelot exploring any of the other connectivity options, perhaps using the broadband adapter for LAN gaming for Mario Tennis or that sort of thing, or are you primarily going to stick with the way the GameCube links up with the Game Boy Advance?
Takahashi Bros: We have no plans to use the broadband adapter at this point.
PGC: OK…shucks…
Takahashi Bros: Oh!…are you shocked to hear that? Do you prefer to have it using the broadband adapter? We’re here to show Mario Golf. This is the first time we’ve had it on display, playable, people can see it, but we’re also here because we want to hear what the American gaming public wants. We feel that we are very—we take the feelings of the gamer into consideration when we’re working on things, and we would like to be able to carry and use some strong opinions. Well, you know, we’re trying to be able to development schedule-wise…it’s too late for (Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour). But it’s something we might consider in the future. Please let us know.

Hardly juicy stuff, but you can tell that they are interested in the feature and willing to consider it. By the time Mario Tennis finally comes out, it will have been at least two years since this interview was conducted, plenty of time to introduce such a feature if Camelot decided to try it out. Camelot experimented with the wireless GBA adapter for Mario Golf: Advance Tour, after all.
Well, that’s all for now, but I’ll try to avoid the catnip and stay alert for more Nintendo rumors this summer. See you soon!


it speaks for it self.

[Demon Adept]

Wow! I think a post like that is just what we need. It really fired up my hopes for a GS3!

[golden_djiin]

i'v known for a year about the one for gamecube.

[el_Sethro]

personally, I kinda hope it'd be on GBA (though that may be unlikely), as I don't have a Gamecube...

[Neo]

If it ever comes on a handheld, it'll be DS... not GBA

[Sheba Windstorm]

Aww GS i__i I really want that game, after all these news, maybe there's a new GS :P, DS, GBA, NGC, whetaver, it'll be the best new I could hear :3

[Traviz]

I think not, what would the storyline be like?!

[Saturos S.]

Something like Isaac or some new bunch... cause i don't like the idea of 12 man party's they could split though... Isaac and Jenna's children or something :silence:

Anyway at least Isaac and/or Co chasing Alex all around the world so he doesn't do anything "bad" like trying to destroy the world... blowing up the lighthouses... just use your imagination...

Anyway I do hope that it comes out on the DS cause otherwise you won't be able to play those long dungeons in the car/plane/whatever you travel in...

But there should be a deeper storyline behind it...

anyone open for ideas?

[Twin Swords]

I think it might be like 500 years in the future where Peir is reallly barely alive and a new group of adepts go after someone that's controlled by alex and then the 2 main character are gods (Light and Dark) and the person with the God of Darkness can't control himself then blah blah blah.

i'll go on forever if i don't stop.Haha.

[Spirit Icana]

Royta, on Jun 10 2005, 11:40 AM, said:

this is a intervieuw with camelot (I copied it into my pc about 6 months ago).
I can't remember where it's from though

here it is:

Hello there! Last time you heard from me, I was just about to award myself with a nice leaf of catnip…apparently I ate too much, because I woke up several days later with a major headache and some other kitty’s fur all over me. Such is the life of a bachelor cat, I guess!
Well, the big Nintendo rumor right now is that a new Golden Sun game is set to be announced soon for GameCube. There’s no concrete source for these reports…just gossip from Japan. But Golden Sun fans are in a joyous frenzy over it, and who can blame them? The handheld games in this series have their detractors, but there are plenty of people who think you can’t get a better RPG on Game Boy Advance. And I think we all want to see how Camelot would translate those beautiful graphics to the GameCube!
I haven’t heard anything through my LBSN (Little Birdie Spy Network) about this particular rumor, but intuition would say that it has a good chance of being true. You don’t need to rely on intuition though, because I’ve got a bit of historical information that supports the rumor more convincingly. You see, the boys at PGC had a nice, long interview with Camelot’s Takahashi brothers way back at E3 2003. This interview was never published, but I’ve got Jonny’s permission to show off a few excerpts that show how much the Takahashis were planning for Golden Sun even back then. The GBA sequel, Golden Sun: The Lost Age, had just been released in America, and everyone was starting to wonder when the obvious GameCube sequel would be announced. To PGC’s surprise, Shugo and Hiroyuki were more than happy to discuss it!

Takahashi Bros: At the beginning we were planning on just making one title. But, you know, as they we going through the development process we’re like, “We can’t possibly put everything in one Game Boy Advance ROM—er, one cartridge—that we want to do. A LOT!” (laughter) Originally we had made a game called Shining Force 3, and it was popular here in the United States from what we had heard; and, you know, in that game you had the ability to play both the good side and the bad side—the good characters and the bad characters, and that seemed to be a really nice way for the players to understand the entire setting and a good way to convey information and story. And so when we were doing Golden Sun we again thought, well, we could expand upon that. We brought in a Star Wars reference: you have the Empire and you have the Rebels, and if you understand both sides of it, it makes for a more complete story, and that whole type of storytelling methodology we decided they wanted to bring into Golden Sun. You need to understand the motivation behind each individual character’s actions and that sort of thing. And for us, as far as the whole Golden Sun setting, the world, the storyline for us, in our minds, Golden Sun 1 and 2 are prologues to the real event yet to come… So those games are created—again, from our viewpoint—as a way of introducing this world to the game players.
Planet GameCube: Is that introduction leading up to, possibly, a GameCube version of the Golden Sun Universe?
(Laughter)
Takahashi Bros: Do you think people would like to see a GameCube version of Golden Sun?
PGC: Oh yes. Oh yes. I think there was a great deal of confusion at the end of the first Golden Sun game because of the abrupt way in which the game finished. There were definitely a lot of story that was left to be told, and I think that was one of the things people were disappointed in with the first one. So being able to possibly get a complete story with the graphical capabilities and whatnot of the GameCube, I think a lot of people would play with it.
Takahashi Bros: You know, [when you] take a fantasy world, basically, the standard motif is sword and sorcery: you’ve got a sword, you’ve got magic, for example a Lord of the Rings type of thing, and it’s really—it’s almost a complete motif. You’ve got swords and you’ve got sorcery: that’s fantasy. But we are saying [that] if you plant a fantasy world that didn’t include magic, and for us—we really felt that we were more familiar with and had more of a drawing to, say, super ESP or supernatural mental abilities. Things of that sort were more familiar and we thought we’d create a world where the ESP type of powers would be very appealing to a worldwide audience. And so, one thing…fantasy role-playing games could have people who have these magic powers, and yet still had to go through and step on the switch to open the door, press the block to get everything …we really wanted to give a feeling, give the players a feeling of extraordinary ability able to move them around, doing things without, maybe, some of that tedium. And that’s still really what we want to bring to people…hopefully [with] the foundation work we’ve done so far, and, for a Nintendo console, whether it’s GameCube or something else, but we definitely want to continue with that lead and create a world that people—gamers who love that sort of game—will be able to experience.
PGC: Yeah, I think that really is a big advantage of Golden Sun, is that you can take the magic outside of the battles.
Takahashi Bros: We want to do so much more! Yeah, we just really want to do much more with the ESP, the ability to fight for the riddle in the end that the sequel presents. And, again, just, if we are able to use that effectively, the amount of varied gameplay we can bring is just tremendous.

All of this stuff should be interesting to Golden Sun fans, but I bolded the most important parts for you. See, Camelot has wanted to do a console Golden Sun RPG for a while! They really think of the GBA games as being an introduction to the world, a prologue to the real story yet to come. And they want to take the idea of using ESP powers outside of battle and do many new things with it. You can bet that if and when a console Golden Sun game is announced, it will fulfill both of these goals. My whiskers are tingling with anticipation! Current rumors also specifically mention a multiplayer mode, but that really shouldn’t be surprising, since both of the GBA games had link cable support. Maybe the GameCube version will take the idea much further, though.
By the way, what about Camelot’s other big console game, Mario Tennis? Nintendo showed a few brief moments of it on video at this year’s E3, but otherwise the game has been in total seclusion…despite being announced simultaneously with Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, which has been out for a year! There were certainly some crazy things going on in that E3 video, but some rumors, fueled by the Nintendo’s E3 2004 press kit, say the real reason for the game’s long development time is that it will be incorporating a LAN mode or possibly even real online gameplay. Well, guess what - PGC asked the Takahashis about this too, back in the same interview.

PGC: Is Camelot exploring any of the other connectivity options, perhaps using the broadband adapter for LAN gaming for Mario Tennis or that sort of thing, or are you primarily going to stick with the way the GameCube links up with the Game Boy Advance?
Takahashi Bros: We have no plans to use the broadband adapter at this point.
PGC: OK…shucks…
Takahashi Bros: Oh!…are you shocked to hear that? Do you prefer to have it using the broadband adapter? We’re here to show Mario Golf. This is the first time we’ve had it on display, playable, people can see it, but we’re also here because we want to hear what the American gaming public wants. We feel that we are very—we take the feelings of the gamer into consideration when we’re working on things, and we would like to be able to carry and use some strong opinions. Well, you know, we’re trying to be able to development schedule-wise…it’s too late for (Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour). But it’s something we might consider in the future. Please let us know.

Hardly juicy stuff, but you can tell that they are interested in the feature and willing to consider it. By the time Mario Tennis finally comes out, it will have been at least two years since this interview was conducted, plenty of time to introduce such a feature if Camelot decided to try it out. Camelot experimented with the wireless GBA adapter for Mario Golf: Advance Tour, after all.
Well, that’s all for now, but I’ll try to avoid the catnip and stay alert for more Nintendo rumors this summer. See you soon!
it speaks for it self.

This piece of information came from Louie of Planet Gamecube. The guys over at PG interviewed the Takahashi Bros. at E3 2003 but neglected to post the interview on their site until a year later.

[gsninja]

Mina, on Aug 1 2005, 07:57 AM, said:

The Wise One: Alex, you have to flee, if you wish to survive. not even YOU can survive this!
Alex: Why?
The Wise One: If you survive, we might meet someday

The Wise One never said "not even YOU could survive this!"

Anyhow, I don't have too much hope for a GS3 anymore, but I still have a little, just in case one might come out...
I think this was mentioned before, but if there's a GS3, Alex should survive, since he got a great deal of the Golden Sun's power, and hunt Isaac down for the remaining power. Another thng...remember after the final conversation with Puelle, you learn that you've absorbed a lot of raw elemental energy? That could affect a certain extent of a new game...

[Demon Adept]

At the end of TLA, I was so hoping I would fight Alex. Since I didn't, I would love to be able to fight him on GS3.

[Unicornmaddy]

Hmmm. Actually I was hoping NOT to battle Alex because my health was so low... But if they do make a GS3 then it's so blatnely obvious that you're going to battle Alex since he was the one trying to bring back alchemy back into the world then the sons and daughters of a Piers, Mia, Ivan.... Get to battle him because he wants to destroy Isaac cause he has the fire element and the only thing standing in Alex's way is the son's and daughters... At least that's how I think it would go...
Please shoot me if you disagree... :P

[Someone Else]

If there were to be a GS3 it'd have to be with Eleo (sp), the son of the dudes in that town with Gaia Rock, the girl in... uh, the one who uses whirlwind in the town near the crater, and some other person. The old crew will undoubtedly be old, but not dead. And they'd have to be NPCs.

[Eugine]

Unless the story picks up like 3 years after TLA, or even right after TLA, remember Alex could easily come back anytime soon.

[Wiflewood]

The girl WD is reffering to is called Ahri btw. You see her in contigo, and when you speak to her, she uses a small cyclone to create a draft.

The combination of people WD said I think is the most likely.

Eoleo, for a fire adept
Takeru, (Susa and Kushinada's son) for an earth adept
Ahri, for a wind adept

And... someone for a water adept. I don't know. But I'll incoperate my ideas for GS3 into my Fanfic as I have done already.

[Someone Else]

I just don't want to play another game with the original GS crew. They're great characters and all, and I'm attracted to them, but I'm tired of playing with them all the same.

And a female and/or non-earth adept main character wouldn't hurt...

[Kwesi]

The original group that made the GS/GS:TLA series has broken up so theres a slim chance they'lll get back together and make a new one. But it would be real cool if they did. I'd buy that in a minute.

[Someone Else]

Well, like I said, Isaac at least is going to have to play a part somewhere. He's still got the power of the Mars star or whatever.

Either that, or the new GS is going to be completely new, and they'll get back to the old story later if you know what I'm talking about.

Keep in mind that it's likely that the new GS is going to have a different title. The Golden Sun already did it's part, so it'll be something else relative to the story.

[Wiflewood]

Well if you belive the article Spirit Icana posted, then the previous 2 games were just a prologue explaining how Alchemy got released upon the world. However in a 3rd game, I would like to see a new cast, and possibly the older characters a NPCs.

[Unicornmaddy]

Wind Dude, on Aug 10 2005, 10:13 PM, said:

I just don't want to play another game with the original GS crew. They're great characters and all, and I'm attracted to them, but I'm tired of playing with them all the same.

And a female and/or non-earth adept main character wouldn't hurt...

You're right in my story the main character is a boy but he's a part earth part fire adept

[Wild Fox]

I think there might be one since you clear your data after beating TLA. But the fact that you can't open up the send option is what gives me my doubts.

I would really like for there to be a female main charachter, for a change of pace. And I think it would be cool if the original charachters where bosses/NPCs.

[Someone Else]

I know... the only game I've ever played where a girl was a main character was Metroid Prime: Hunters. Well, I played as the girl character in Pokemon: Ruby (I played as a boy in Sapphire, respectively) and Pokemon: Leaf (played as boy in Fire) but that doesn't really count in my opinion.

Note that the combination might be different for TLA. Who knows. Since the characters for GS1 and GS2 are likely not going to be playable for a GS3, sending data wouldn't really be needed.

[Eugine]

Is there anyway we can contact Camelot? Maybe we could email them with this BIG GSSF petition with over a million people(BIG HOPE!)

[Eugine]

Well, Camelot is a Japanese company so I doubt they will be able to see it... Unless we foward it to Nintendo.com first or something.

I doubt it would work anyways.

[Unicornmaddy]

Wind Dude, on Aug 13 2005, 12:45 AM, said:

I know... the only game I've ever played where a girl was a main character was Metroid Prime: Hunters. Well, I played as the girl character in Pokemon: Ruby (I played as a boy in Sapphire, respectively) and Pokemon: Leaf (played as boy in Fire) but that doesn't really count in my opinion.

Note that the combination might be different for TLA. Who knows. Since the characters for GS1 and GS2 are likely not going to be playable for a GS3, sending data wouldn't really be needed.

I know they should think more about the girl players. It's cool that the last 5 Pokemon games (including Crystal) had the option of a girl as well

nintedofan, on Aug 13 2005, 08:30 AM, said:

:ph34r: lol yeah, lets start something over at petitionsonline.com or something  ^_^  That will work :blink:

Well, it could :ph34r:

:ph34r: funny...

[Mathak Kraven]

Apparently they are planning to make one for the year 2007, I heard it as a rumor over at GT, but I'm absolutely not sure.

[Eugine]

Where did they get that at GT? There's no confirmation what so ever anywhere...

Also, what's the link to the topic?

[Mathak Kraven]

I'll go search for it, some guy named IvanMaster told it, but I have no idea exactly, should be one of the lower forums.

Linkie Doodle

I'm a link Click me

Rumors Page

Please mind the first topic is a joke from someone, don't notice it.

[Someone Else]

That "New rumor" topic was hilarious. XD

Don't you hate it when people make a big deal of things to such an extent that they can't spot a joke when it dances around naked in front of them? *pant*

You gotta admit though, the fact that there are so many rumors SHOWS their's a chance at a new game.

[isaac2112]

if there was a gs3 who would be the main charecter. felix or isaac. it would be cool if you got to choose. but there might not be a gs3 anyway. i dont think there will be. maybe i am wrong...

[Shikonaurum]

Wind Dude, on Aug 19 2005, 11:11 AM, said:

You gotta admit though, the fact that there are so many rumors SHOWS their's a chance at a new game.

That certainly is granted. The fact that there are so many rumors either means that people are sadistically watching others' hopes rise, OR that there is a large enough fanbase to come up with so many rumors. Maybe both.

Either that, or Camelot is realy just taunting us. :)

Golden Sun 3 would be brilliant, but that would involve me spending more money on a new console. ::is a total cheapo::

[Eugine]

I don't see any picture, maybe its the computer I'm on. I'm not home... *Rushes home :P*

After searching Google the only thing I could fine was
http://enid.alcaweb..../6874/37961.jpg This seem fake IMO

Also http://boards.ign.co...?topic=95129265

There's already a topic on Golden Sun 3. Merged.

[Blue]

From IGN

Quote

In big, white text directly in the middle of the full-page ad, Camelot writes: "Now seeking staff for development of an RPG targeting a next-generation system."
While this placement does not directly confirm that the RPG is for Revolution, it seems the most logical conclusion based on Camelot's very close relationship with Nintendo and previous comments made by the studio's president Hiroyuki Takahashi. Last month, he confirmed that Camelot is not currently underway with any DS projects, but seemed to hint that it was developing a new RPG for an unspecified system.

"We love RPGs a lot and we profoundly adore the universe we created with the Golden Sun series on GBA," he replied when he was asked if Camelot was making a Golden Sun sequel for consoles. "At the moment, though, it is impossible for us to share information on this subject with you and so our answer is neither yes nor no." Takahashi added that Camelot does have projects underway and that he expects it "will be able to show some new things at E3."

[Shikonaurum]

Hm.. When was this dated? I think another friend of mine was telling me something about this.

She also said something about a Nintendo magazine saying something, but I'm doubting the latter.

Any RPG from Camelot seems good, though. Right?

Edit: Checked date. February? That's when they said they would have something to show at E3... E3 (2005) seems to have come and gone.

[Neon]

hmm, well if it is being made for the revolution, they obviously couldn't reveal details on the game if Nintendo wasn't revealing the Revolution itself. Or maybe the game is still in the planning stages, since even they don't know what to expect from the revolution.

Worst case scenario: They had to cancel the project to work on another mario tennis <<. I hate you Nintendo.

[Sea of Time]

Oh yes, we all love Mario Tennis. Honestly, I think they should get off their lazy bums stop making second rate mario sports games that they know will get them money and make a good rpg. I tried geist and it honestly sucked. How long has it been since Nintendo made a good rpg (other than anything Intelligent Systems have done). It's pathetic. It's almost as bad as Disney coming out with dvd's that are sequels to movies that we don't even care about anymore.

[Shikonaurum]

Speaking of Disney coming out with DVD's that nobody cares about, when was the last time the company came out with a reputable (animated) movie? Most of the things they come up with these days are gag movies...

And Mario Tennis. Hm. I didn't even know that people bought the game, but obviously they do...

I really hope these ideas are true. But is anyone aware of the time span between now and the release of Golden Sun: The Lost Age? How long has it been? 3 years? 2 years? 4?

[Sea of Time]

As for the Disney movies, Lilo and Stitch (2002) was their last "real" animated movie, but let's not get off topic.

Yes, it's been two and a half years since April 2003 when GS:TLA came out. As the months pass by, it becomes less and less likely Camelot will even consider a GS3.

[Somia]

I'm just so suprised taht this topic still lives o_o;; At least some people still believe theres gonna be a GS3..

[Sea of Time]

Well, in a Golden Sun forum, this should be the most visited topic, right? Basically, that is what this forum would thrive off of, a GS3.

[Shikonaurum]

I'm still at the point where I feel that bubble of hope bubble up as I read any rumors of Golden Sun 3. Pity. It's driving me insane, you know?

But is this topic the most visited topic? I could have sworn that the off-topic lounge was more popular...

[Sea of Time]

I said it should be the most visited but of course it isn't. I think TRT is the most popular. Anyway, I think that the GS series is over and we are just looking for a Camelot RPG, is that the consensus?

[Eugine]

TRT is the most popular topic on this forum. I finally seen why, its by far the most interesting topic out there now IMO, and the most fun!

[Someone Else]

It's because it's just complete randomness. It can evolve into anything.

Anyway, Camelot said they loved the world they created in Golden Sun. Why would they throw it away? -.-

THINK people. XP

[Eugine]

Well, yeah. I love it also. I just hope they atleast involve Weyard in their latest RPG. I don't really need the current characters to be playable in the game though, I just want to see them again.

[Lemontime]

GS3! GS3! GS3!
I hope it comes out on DS, if it even does come out.
I don't want to buy a new system for only one game..

[Shikonaurum]

Sibsag has a point... I'm cheap, so I don't really want to go get a DS.

Assuming Camelot would either work for the Nintendo Revolution or the NDS, how do you think that would work?

How does any RPG really utilize the DS anyway, without making maps and things like that...?

[Someone Else]

I don't entirely know what you mean, but the Touch Screen can be used simply for interphase, button touching, and blah if you don't like it to be used directly in gameplay. It's really easier and funner than using the D-Pad and the A button.

[Sea of Time]

Is WiFi really that common these days? I hear that it's only available at coffee shops. Will this affect a possible GS3?

[Neon]

Anyone with a wireless router can set up their own 'hotspot' and play the next gen consoles online.
Don't have a wireless router? Nintendo will be releasing a USB dongle that you can use to connect the DS and Rev to the net :P.

[Sea of Time]

That's easy! Well, WiFi won't be a problem then for people.

[Jai]

Well here it is boys and girls this just might be the big break we've all been waiting for. There have seem to be rumors about Camelot working hard on the next Golden Sun title for the Nintendo Gamecube. Personally I think this is a great idea. I've always thought that Golden Sun should have been on the cube ever since the lost age came out, besides that the fact that the next Super Smash Brothers might feature a few characters from Golden Sun its only obvious that they might as well give Golden Sun a home among the rest of the ever more popular Nintendo game characters. Lets face facts here people I dont think we give
Golden Sun enough credit and I honestly think nows our chance to show Nintendo and Camelot that we want Golden Sun to be around for the next few years. Also on another note I'd apprectate any of you readers to find as much information as you can about this and post your findings on this topic.





Respectfully yours


Jai

Hey everyone I just found this its an interveiw that Planet Gamecube had with Camelots Takahashi brothers concerning the new Golden sun project I would post it but its too big so insted heres a link. Camelot interview

[Sea of Time]

I'm not sure if it's a trustworthy source you have there, but if it's true that would be cool. There have been rumors flying about a new GS for a long time and there really hasn't been definitive feedback.

[MysticWarrior]

I don't know about that source. That source is really old, and you'd think Camelot would already have made an announcement about it by now if they really were making a new Golden Sun.

[kate]

That and if they were making a new golden sun, it would be for the nintendo revolution, not gamecube. These games normally take more then a year to make, and the revolution is coming out in 2006 isn't it?

[Someone Else]

Plus, I heard it was officially announced that the new Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess would be the very last game made for the Nintendo Game Cube.

So, if the new GS were to be made for the Game Cube it would have to be released before Twilight Princess, and if that were to be so we would have heard of it by now.

Logic people, logic. *points at his forehead*

[Sea of Time]

Not the last game, the last good game. I'm sure there will be other crappy movie games that come out after LoZ.

[TheEnglishman]

I liked the battle system in Tales of Symphonia as well. It did the job. However if there was going to a Golden Sun 3 then I don't think it would have Isaac as the main character. I would set a fair bit after The Lost Age.

[Sea of Time]

If you liked the battle system in ToS, then play ToS, I think if they make a new GS, it should be turn-based. Cuz I'm old school GS.

[TheEnglishman]

Sea_of_Time, on Oct 27 2005, 05:24 PM, said:

If you liked the battle system in ToS, then play ToS, I think if they make a new GS, it should be turn-based. Cuz I'm old school GS.

Well to be honest I like both systems. I think they both work but a turn based one is a bit silly. If you were being attacked by a guy with a sword, would you only get him once he had taken his turn?
Then again the chances of being attacked are quite unlikely.

[Sea of Time]

It's not supposed to make sense, it's supposed to be fun. And I know turn-based combat is weird but I like it a lot better than real time.

[TheEnglishman]

Actually in some turn based fighting games you can block attacks. I know that in ones like Final Fantasy you can't but some others allow you to.
I think that both systems are good. Turn based is good for trying to do more powerful atttacks and there is more time to check things over. Real time is good for hammering attacks quickly and being able to dodge others. I wouldn't mind either!
That's if there is going to be a Golden Sun 3...

[pHantOm]

I liked Tactics, but that wouldnt fit well with a GS game. Just stick with what they did before. Except if its on a console, then make it a zelda kinda game.

[Sea of Time]

High King Isaac, on Nov 8 2005, 07:11 PM, said:

Well bully for you. However, maybe some of us would like to see the next GS take full advantage of the graphical power of the next gen console's engine, and appeal to a wider margin of gamers. I wouldn't mind seeing the fast-paced, intense action of a real-time battle system. I don't know about you, but I'd like my character to be able to block attacks. The turn-based is perfect for the gameboy but not so much for consoles. Unless you use the Final Fantasy saga, cause then it works.

Or maybe, they can keep the old combat system and make it much much better with new revamped animations and thousands of psynergy combos. They can also add an online mode. They don't have to change the combat system to attract other gamers, Golden Sun on the GBA sold extremely well for a franchise that had just started. As for blocking, I don't know if it's necessary, I just think a turn-based system would be a lot better.

[Lemontime]

Not sure if this is real but...

I saw a list of games coming out on the revolution on the VGcats forums.. Heres something that caught my eye:
GAMES IN DEVELOPMENT
Untitled Animal Crossing (2nd Party)
Untitled RPG (Camelot)
The Darkness (Majesco)

Could this be the next GS?
For Revolution? I Do not know.

[TheEnglishman]

I wouldn't get your hopes too high. For one thing I don't think Nintendo have annouced any games yet. Not only that but it could be that it is a completely different RPG.
You never know though...

[Sea of Time]

If it's not from Camelot, it's not a reliable source. The most substantial proof is that Camelot was posting a wanted ad for somebody to work on an RPG. That's all the info we have right now.

[TheEnglishman]

I'd prefer for the information to come from the main source rather than a forum. It will probably turn out that the RPG is a completely different one to Golden Sun.

This post has been edited by Me111: 22 November 2005 - 02:38 PM

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, we would have had a GS3 by now, if there was ever going to be one. Any Camelot RPG with a good storyline would be good though.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm always willing to try new RPGs. I wasn't sure about Tales of Symphonia but that turned out to be a good idea. Not only that but if the RPG comes from Camelot then I know that they have had experience with the genre before.

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, Camelot even made something as stupid as Mario Golf fun, so they could definitely make a great RPG.

[TheEnglishman]

Mario Golf is no fun when you're rubbish at it. :blink:
I think Camelot should go up on my Mario Table Tennis idea.

[Sea of Time]

Even they could make that game good, that's a good plan.

[Someone Else]

It's actually been known for a while that Camelot is releasing an RPG for the Rev.

[Sea of Time]

For the Rev? I haven't heard of a specific console for their RPG are you sure?

WD, you're posting more than me lately! :blink:

[Someone Else]

Yup, it was the Rev fo' sho'.

[Sea of Time]

Oh, almost spam there WD... :blink:

Anyways, this should put to rest the DS claim that's been floating around. Good riddance, I didn't want it to be on the DS anyway.

[Someone Else]

If they stuck with the classical controls (only using the Touch Screen for menu selecting), and improved the graphics and animation it'd be darn good on the DS.

NEWAY, I still hope for new characters in a GS 3. Dump the old (or at least make them old :agitated:) and in with the new. Undoubtedly, it'd probably be YEARS before something bad happened in Weyard again.

[Sea of Time]

It would be awesome if you played as all them at 80 years old, and Piers still looked like he was 30. There would be a lot of good age jokes coming out of that game. XD

Maybe they could have like another world over the waterfall or something. I think that would be cool.

[Someone Else]

You know, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

There are so many possibilities for a GS3, Camelot just can't pass it up. It's obvious that there will be one eventually, but I still think it'd go under another title but still take place in the Golden Sun universe.

[Sea of Time]

And yet, in my mind, I think it should be put to rest. Let's start a new series in a new world, I think GS should have finished with TLA.

[Someone Else]

Well, the shape of Weyard changes depending on Alchemy and stuffs, remember? It can still be a whole new world to explore but still technically be Weyard.

[Sea of Time]

No, I'm talking about an all new RPG, having nothing to do with Golden Sun.

[Someone Else]

I'm saying it doesn't have to be a new RPG necessarily, but there's still a chance that this RPG that Camelot's currently working on won't be a GS3.

[Sea of Time]

Think about it, the original Golden Sun came out in 2001, the second in '03, and the third definitely won't be coming out and if it were to come out next year, we would have heard about it, (unless it's for the Rev)

[huimi]

I prefer not to be a new RPG.
Maybe Issac's son would be the new main character.
Or maybe other new youngers.
Alex didn't die, and get very strong power.
That big stoneman (you know who I mean) died.

May not be the continents again.
They can fight under water, or up in the sky, even a totally new world, and maybe they can travel back through the time, or maybe some from the future come and meet them.

There are lots and lots of possibilities.
Camelot should make a GS3, or at least I hope that.

[TheEnglishman]

Sea_of_Time, on Nov 24 2005, 06:24 PM, said:

Think about it, the original Golden Sun came out in 2001, the second in '03, and the third definitely won't be coming out and if it were to come out next year, we would have heard about it, (unless it's for the Rev)

It could just be coincidence that the games have come out like that. It might be for the Rev but I really don't see how the story will go.

[Sea of Time]

Well, four or five years between sequels is pretty unheard of in the video game world. Once or twice it might happen, but in most cases, it doesn't.

[TheEnglishman]

I think they should just say if they're ever going to make a Golden Sun 3 and leave it at that.

[Sea of Time]

They might have already, except none of us can read Japanese. Can someone out there understand their website and tell all of us if there are any announcements?

[TheEnglishman]

It will probably turn out that their website says 'Golden Sun will never return!'
Or they won't mention it I don't know.

[Sea of Time]

There is still that news floating around that Camelot was looking for an RPG Designer or something like that, but that's not sufficient evidence for anything.

[Enoch]

Um....... Guys, is this for real?

Please tell me what this means. May seem like our hopes may be well placed after all.

Take a look at this.

And this

And this to

and this

These posts are like 1 or more years old. Please explain this to me. How could we have missed some of these. 4 decently reliable sources state that a 3rd game might be in the making. As apposed to the "no it's deffinatly not coming out" type deal.

Oh, my brain is quaking just thinking about it.

[Sea of Time]

These may be reliable sources, but when it comes to this particular subject, I can only trust Camelot or Nintendo. That's why I'm skeptical about this.

[TheEnglishman]

Well there used to be a games show on TV (it's finished now) and they said that a third title was possible.

[Sea of Time]

Possible. I still think that we need news from Camelot before we jump to conclusions. It's good that all these sources are pointing in the right direction though. :P

[TheEnglishman]

Sea_of_Time, on Dec 10 2005, 06:31 PM, said:

Possible. I still think that we need news from Camelot before we jump to conclusions. It's good that all these sources are pointing in the right direction though. :P

Obviously it's better if the news comes from Camelot before anyone get's too excited. My only worry is how long ago these sources came up. Could they have been planning a third game and then changed their minds? As time goes on I find it harder to believe there would be a third game. The possibility is there though.

[Enoch]

They may not be camelot but they all say the exact same thing. That a rep from camelot sayes that a third GS game is a possibility. Whenever my mom would say possibly, usualy it means yes.

[Echo_djinn]

Who here has visited the GSR site? Seems to me Camelot hasn't forgotten about GS. It's all good.

This post has been edited by Echo_djinn: 10 December 2005 - 06:14 PM

[Someone Else]

Care to elaborate, ED?

This post has been edited by Wind Dude: 10 December 2005 - 07:48 PM

[Sea of Time]

I'm confused too. Quit with the beating around the bush and tell us what you really mean.

[TheEnglishman]

Maybe he's talking about this
I suppose it shows that Camelot still remember.

[Enoch]

Well that's kinda interesting! I never even saw it before, but in the post, it sayes that it's a golden djinn edition DS, while judging from the picture, it looks more like a GameBoy SP.......Just noticing a few things is all.

This post has been edited by Enoch: 12 December 2005 - 06:59 AM

[Colt the earth adept]

The gold DS could be a sign, but along the side of the link Cinder posted (the admin of the site Me111 posted) had different colored DS's, it could just be a new color or it could a goldensun DS.

[Enoch]

Except it wasn't a pic of a ds. it was clearly an sp. But all the same........yeah.

[Aquamarine]

Um... you know, like... that's not a DS. And the Venus Djinn picture could just be a sticker... or something. Also, if there really is a gold DS, than it's probably a Zelda edition DS. They made a golden N64 controler for Ocarina Of Time, the WindWaker box and disc are golden and I think there is a gold colored Link To The Past edition of the GBA SP.

[BloodPhoenix]

I was looking across the vast internet when i stumbled across this strange image... I got my hope up i mean the logo looks genuine, the background looks genuine, but those icons leave doubt...? i don't really think that this is real but...

i've read in loads of places about the possiblility of GS3 and in most cases as someone in the previous posts has said means YES! :o

anyways give thoughts on this screen...

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[Someone Else]

Seen it before, considered it, decided it's fake.

[Echo_djinn]

That screenshot is a fake and was made up to be an April fools joke long ago.

[Enoch]

Yeah, that was fake, but the announcments are quite real. I found out that the announcements aren't actualy a year old, but instead have simply been posted with the year set back. Some websites do that so that they can make it look like they came across the information first. So in all reality, those updates are actualy quite recent.

[Mallick]

Actually, I think it looks like some sort of Japanese version of TLA.

[Neon]

It's a fake. Made by Cinder and friends at GSR last April fools ^_^.

[Sea of Time]

Kinda obvious too. I'm starting to think more and more that news will never come on this subject and we'll be speculating forever.