[Split Infinity]

Get four and you could have yourself a DDR tournament. XD

[Zeypher]

As long as it isn't used in wrong places, like this, it should be fine...maybe >.>

[Someone Else]

The biggest problem I have with the balance board is I have no place to put it. There's a coffee table in front of my couch, then between the coffee table and the TV there's maybe 2-3 feet of space, and maybe THERE I could put the balance board. But people walk through that space, and besides, my face would be right in front of the TV. =/

It's doomed to fail. XD

[Split Infinity]

http://www.besportier.com/archives/nintendo-wii-balance-board-action.jpg

Surely if you have room to use a Wiimote, you have room for that?

[Zeypher]

You don't need a lot of room to use the Wiimote though.

[Split Infinity]

Even so, it's only about 30-40cm of floor space.

[Someone Else]

You still have to stand up, though. The Wiimote you can just sit, even if the game recommends standing you probably don't need to.

It's doomed to fail. XD

[My Best Wishes]

I wouldn't have a decent space to put a Balance Board in where I play Wii. If it was cheap enough it would be tempting, but I'm getting over the Wii right now. Lack of great games.

[Laharl]

-_-

i was expecting Nintendo to release the Wiiboard seperate so you could have another pointless gimmick to spend £20+ on, and of course it's only compatable with like 5 games

[TheEnglishman]

Like that Zapper thing you mean? I think Link's Crossbow training is the only game that uses that.
Then again all add-ons are like that, even the good ones. I mean, Guitar Hero may be popular, but that guitar is useless for any other games.

[Laharl]

Rock Band is the worst offender, it's considered a bargain to purchase the game and the instruments for £150 :/

[TheEnglishman]

I was gonna bring that up. All of that, just for one game? Seems like too much money to spend on something that will only be for one game, which in turn is only going to be played at parties and with friends.

[Laharl]

it is indeed quite ridicolus.

i'm sure nintendo will try and cash in, releasing some stupid wiimote instruments or something

[TheEnglishman]

'Sing into the Wiimote!'
Yeah I could see it happening. -_-

[Laharl]

so could i....so could i ¬_¬

[Golden Legacy]

Speaking of which, Nintendo has long since confirmed it is working on "Wii Music".

Sorry, had to bring it up.

[TheEnglishman]

I guess they're hoping for some sort of a rival to the Singstar series. Makes sense, considering their desire to approach a wider audience.

[Someone Else]

Golden Legacy, on Jun 7 2008, 09:41 AM, said:

Speaking of which, Nintendo has long since confirmed it is working on "Wii Music".

Ya know, if I wanted to play music I'd pick up my guitar and PLAY. What's the next thing they'll do... Wii Drive Your Kids to Soccer Practice?

[Zeypher]

How big is the Balance Board?

[TheEnglishman]

Personally I can't wait for Wii Accounting.

[Eugine]

Me111, on Jun 7 2008, 02:52 PM, said:

Personally I can't wait for Wii Accounting.

WAL.
Wii-assisted learning

[Toasty]

Caael, on Jun 6 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

Interesting, GSN. A lot of people, myself included, who used to be Nintendo fanboys have now gone to microsoft after the Wii.

Now what does that tell you?

It's not the console, it's the lack of support for it. At least, the kind of support that gamers (who are the ones buying the stuff in the gaming industry to begin with) would like to see.

No real RPG's, no decent real racing games (Pro Street was a dissapointment), and it's only starting to get some FPS's. Though we won't know whether they're good or not until they come out.

The DS/GBA/PSP(mainly PSP) have the RPG's, the 360 has the FPS's and racing games, and the PS3 has some RPG's and some racing games. The Wii has adventure games and crap titles.

[Laharl]

Eugine, on Jun 7 2008, 07:58 PM, said:

WAL.
Wii-assisted learning

i personally cant wait for the Market And Retail Training expansion.

then you'd get the WALMART acronym

[gsninja]

Caael, on Jun 6 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

Interesting, GSN. A lot of people, myself included, who used to be Nintendo fanboys have now gone to microsoft after the Wii.

Now what does that tell you?

Well, I'm still a major fan of Nintendo, which is still far and away better than Microsoft and Sony, in m y opinion. After all, like I said before, Nintendo is where all my favorite games are from.

Still, it's just that the Wii won't show much of its potential if all it's producing is games like Spongebob Squarepants or something...

[Zeypher]

Quote

Still, it's just that the Wii won't show much of its potential if all it's producing is games like Spongebob Squarepants or something...

Talk to the 3rd Party developers that are making shovelware *coughubisoftcough* :(

[Nosferatu]

I'm off of Brawl for a good month or two. All of my GCN controllers are ****ed so I ordered a new Wavebird. ****ing $90.

Current controllers:
Wavebird: Joystick eternally moves up/ Buttons work at random.
Orange: Half of the buttons are impossible to press.
Silver: 1 second delay.

[My Best Wishes]

Or you could use the Wiimote like a NES controller. It's easy, wireless, and awesome.

[Zeypher]

You can also use the Classic Controller.

[Golden Legacy]

watch, on Jun 10 2008, 03:54 AM, said:

Or you could use the Wiimote like a NES controller. It's easy, wireless, and awesome.

Seconded. I find the Wiimote configuration actually very nice, smooth, and easy to pick up. My only complaint with it is that the D-pad is too short in any direction, so unintentionally I'll jump when I mean to go right during really hectic moments. But I've overcome that now, and I quite like it.

[Someone Else]

My hands are waay too big to feel "right" using the Wiimote like an NES controller. It's like I'm not actually holding on to anything, (used to ergonomic stuff) and I tend to grab enemies a lot and the Wiimote almost seems like it doesn't want you to grab enemies, what with the awkwardness of the + button's positioning.

I'm still having controller issues like Nos, except now the controller eternally goes down which is bad for obvious reasons... shielding... I recommend Wiimote + Nunchuck, it's actually really good if you give it a chance.

[Toasty]

I only like the GC controller for Brawl. Everything is too wierd. Though I haven't tried the classic controller yet. But I really don't see a need for the classic controller since you can use your GC one on pretty much everything that uses the classic controller. So far, at least.

Anyway, I got my Wavebird for $45. Why did you pay twice as much, Nos?

[Golden Legacy]

This is, how does Laharl say, a fapfest for Nintendo fans.

http://www.wiiwii.tv/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/zeldawii.jpg

[Someone Else]

Article. Here. Now.

[Zeypher]

smexy

[Legolastom]

Isnt that like a year old?

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu, on Jun 9 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

I'm off of Brawl for a good month or two. All of my GCN controllers are ****ed so I ordered a new Wavebird. ****ing $90.

I do like having controllers to play GCN games, mind you.

[Saturos S.]

Okiedo, so I've borrowed the Wii of my brother now for nearly 2 weeks because he's on holiday and the only games I can play for longer than 15 minutes a day are Zelda: TP and Resident Evil.

All the other games are just so dam kiddy and mario-raped that it's annoying. Sure some games are fun to play with friends like Brawl, but that's only for an hour or two tops. After that, I'm not picking up the game for at least 3 days. Super Mario Galaxy, is fun, for 15 minutes, because each level is so the same. I can't stand the bright kiddy colours anymore. I want dark, realistic enviroments, not bright coloured with inflated heads people. Mario strikers, the uberphailure for any game that calls itself a soccer game. It just sucks, because it's not football, it's way too easy to score, even on hard.

It's all more of the same, in every mario game, each and every level, and it's so basic and easy.

Trauma center and FE are still good fun though.

... Trauma center is good fun though.

[Someone Else]

Saturos Striker, on Jul 1 2008, 02:07 PM, said:

Super Mario Galaxy, is fun, for 15 minutes, because each level is so the same.

Hah!

Other than that I think you're overreacting a bit or something.

[Split Infinity]

It's easy to bash a console when you don't own it. =P

[Aquamarine]

Saturos Striker, on Jul 1 2008, 11:07 PM, said:

Super Mario Galaxy, is fun, for 15 minutes, because each level is so the same.

NO IT'S NOT!

srsly

[Caael]

Aquamarine, on Jul 2 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

NO IT'S NOT!

srsly

It suffers with what was wrong with Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin.

The levels arent the same, but there's different tilesets for levels, like the bee one, the ice one, the toy one; which are all reused over and over again. They're different levels, but look the same so it's incredibly boring to play them again and again.

[Aquamarine]

... I also disagree with that. Mostly. I mean, there's only ONE toy level, ONE desert level, ONE ghost level... Oh well, everyone has a right to an opinion. Even you. :P

[Caael]

To be fair, i've only played a small part of the game, but from what i've seen my little brother play, it's all very similar from one galaxy to the next.

[Golden Legacy]

I stand with Aqua on this. Either you've barely played the game, or you're exaggerating to an extent that almost makes no sense.

[Drizzy Drake]

GL is right. When I frist read the reviews, and saw footage, I didn't think I would enjoy it, but after I tried it last week, I loved it. 9/10. And I know some people think that's not high enough, but it's just not good enough to recieve a 10.

[Someone Else]

3D platformers get sort of dull for me quickly. Jump here, jump there, bleagh, and I can't stand isometric camera angles in games like those. MGS series is like that too, but at least you can always go into the first person view. I'm not even sure if SMG let you go 1st person view whenever you wanted. I'd give SMG an 8.5/10

[Drizzy Drake]

MGS4 actually has a good camera, finally.

[Someone Else]

MGS3: Subsistence features the MGS4 camera. Freaking love <3333 you should try it sometime, Dipsy. Made an amazing game an even more enjoyable experience.

Oops Wii talk.

Okami is the last game I'll probably buy for a while. =/

[Drizzy Drake]

I've never played MGS3. I own 1, 4.

And allright, Okami. Good game, but honestly better on the PS2. Shit, even Nintendo Power said to play the PS2 version for a better experience, and they work for Nintendo.

[Split Infinity]

I only wish you could switch to permanent 1st-person in MGS3, because don't you have to hold down L3 or something?

[Someone Else]

Dipset, on Jul 2 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

Power said to play the PS2 version for a better experience

Really? Could you somehow link me to that?

[Drizzy Drake]

Search yourself. I really don't wanna find my Nintendo Power and scan it.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ni...eview&meta=

You'll find it somewhere in there. I'm not lying though.

[Split Infinity]

Apparently the visual art style was dulled down a bit in Okami Wii.

[Drizzy Drake]

I never tried the Wii version, so I wouldn't know. Did you find where it said that though?

[Someone Else]

It's in there:

http://en.wikipedia....%8Ckami#Reviews

That's a very odd thing to do, I've never heard of official magazines mentioning rival consoles in actual articles before, only ads.

[Drizzy Drake]

I remember a letter from a while back from some kid asking if the NP crew plays any other systems, and Chris S. wrote that he owns a PS2 and PS1, and loves playing them both. And then, alot of times they mention another system if a game series appeared on it, or shit like that. But yes, it is odd. NP is a very loving magazine.

[Laharl]

yeah PS2 Okami is better than the Wii version same way Twilight Princess GC is better than the Wii version.

to give something like Okami 7.5/10 is fair enough i suppose, i mean they can't score it too highly or it might show up Zelda, but to do like that and then to give Mario Kart 9/10 is ****ing retarded.

Okami Wii also sold poorly, congratulations general gaming public, you're all terminally retarded

[Caael]

Golden Legacy, on Jul 3 2008, 01:23 AM, said:

I stand with Aqua on this. Either you've barely played the game, or you're exaggerating to an extent that almost makes no sense.

I've barely played the game.

By all means, i'm not calling it bad, I just thought the levels were really similar.

[Toasty]

It felt like that for me too.

I thuroughly enjoyed the game, even staying up 'till midnight or 1 AM (back then I was usually in bed asleep by then) playing it. I'd give it a 10/10 if it held my interest for longer, but it didn't. I got bored of it relatively quickly (within about two months). Therefor I'd give it an 8.5 or 9 out of 10.

[Legolastom]

Took two weeks for me (Beat Bowser the day after I got it >_>).

[Saturos S.]

Golden Legacy, on Jul 3 2008, 02:23 AM, said:

I stand with Aqua on this. Either you've barely played the game, or you're exaggerating to an extent that almost makes no sense.

or you just don't like it to the same extend as some people?

[Drizzy Drake]

Kind of the same thing with Kate and FF7. She finds it boring, yet it's hailed as one of the best games of all time by many. It's all opinions.

[Golden Legacy]

I'm not disagreeing on opinions here. I'm trying to say that the levels are far more diverse and require different platforming challenges. The theme of the game (using gravity to control your progress) is relatively the same, it's the way it's used that makes each level different.

[Drizzy Drake]

But alot of people might find the game repetitive. You could argue that really, all games are repetitive, but I'm just saying. Atleast you aren't defending it like a whore like you used to. :P.

[Saturos S.]

But no one can argue about Mario party 8 not being the awesomest game ever!

...no seriously, even with four players this game doesn't seem to be that entertaining.

[Toasty]

Hence why I will orgasm like no other when they release the origional on VC.

And GL, it's all an opinion. It almost doesn't matter what spect of the game it is. Some people wll find it inovative, and some people will see it as repetitive.

[Drizzy Drake]

Mario Party 2>>>>all others.

[Nyktos]

I preferred 3. Still, I think we cam all agree that Mario Party 4 and later have all sucked.

[Drizzy Drake]

Yes they have. But 2 was better than 3.

[Nyktos]

What makes it better? I haven't played 2 much.

[Drizzy Drake]

Funner(I realise this isn't a word) minigames. That's the only real difference between the games.

[Nyktos]

Fair enough. I didn't like most of the minigames in MP3 anyway. I did like Duel Mode though.

[Laharl]

why do they keep making Mario Party!?

its not remotely decent and nobody buys it any more

[Aquamarine]

Actually, lots of people each installment. What you said didn't even make any sense, they wouldn't keep making it if it didn't sell well.

Anyhow, I've only played 1 and 3 and enjoyed both of them. I can't wait for an online MP for Wii, I'm definitely getting that.

[Caael]

Hooray, lag-tastic minigames >_>

[Aquamarine]

... You've got a point there actually.

[Saturos S.]

Aquamarine, on Jul 4 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

Actually, lots of people each installment. What you said didn't even make any sense, they wouldn't keep making it if it didn't sell well.

Anyhow, I've only played 1 and 3 and enjoyed both of them. I can't wait for an online MP for Wii, I'm definitely getting that.

MP 8 doesn't have an online function?

*runs downstairs and checks*

[Aquamarine]

Wait... MP8 DOES have an online function? Man, I'm way behind on video game news...

[Laharl]

Aquamarine, on Jul 4 2008, 01:24 PM, said:

Actually, lots of people [?????] each installment. What you said didn't even make any sense, they wouldn't keep making it if it didn't sell well.

Nintendo are the only company allowed to get away with this kind of ****, as long as you retards keep lapping it up, they're not going to change anything.

It amuses that Nintendo are often praised for the originality where there are

this many Mario games
14 Zelda games
10 Metroid games

with all the titles in each series of each the 2D era using the same basic formula and the same is true for the 3d era

[Caael]

Yes, but Metroid games are good./

[Laharl]

Caael, on Jul 4 2008, 04:20 PM, said:

Yes, but Metroid games are good./

i'll rephrase that for you

Super Metroid
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime 1

are good

[Caael]

Zero Mission was good too.

but yeah, echoes and corruption were awful, awful games.

[Legolastom]

Laharl, on Jul 4 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

i'll rephrase that for you

Super Metroid
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime 1

are good

**** YEAH!

But no I have to disagree with you on the Zelda part, I mean the boomerang in Twilight princess had a slight wind effect! While the boomerangs in the other games did not have a slight wind effect, how can you say they are the same!?

[Drizzy Drake]

*Facepalm*

[Laharl]

he's being sarcastic >_>;;

[Drizzy Drake]

..nooooooo, you think?

[Legolastom]

But on that note Prime 2 was good but it wasnt new, or that paticularly amazing. Corruption was just not a Metroid game, it was more like a cheap first person shooter with the only difference being that enemies were less satisfying to kill.

[Caael]

Echoes was just another 'milking the money cow' released as soon as humanly possible after the first game in order to cash in. It wasnt well made, it was practically the first Prime, but with light and dark themes.

[Drizzy Drake]

I actually enjoyed Corruption. Meh.

[Laharl]

Caael, on Jul 4 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

It wasnt well made, it was practically the first Prime, but with light and dark themes.

and ammunition for your beams...

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

[Caael]

And only 3 beams, not including the final one.

Echoes was just awful. It should not have been made.

[Legolastom]

However, Prime 1 was just epicly amazing, so atmospheric and it really pulled you into the universe.

[Laharl]

indeed it was, no one is disputing that

[Legolastom]

I know.

[TheEnglishman]

Laharl, on Jul 4 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

http://www.thefreakshowradio.com/sitebuilder/images/AVGN_LOGO_collage-484x241.jpg
I enjoyed the first Prime, it pulled me in enough to complete it, despite not having played any other Metroid game. The only problem was the amount of backtracking.
I've seen some gameplay for the new Wario game on Wii. It looks fun, like the old Wario Land games on GBA.

[Drizzy Drake]

Going into a Metroid game, you should expect backtracking.

[Aquamarine]

Laharl, on Jul 4 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

Nintendo are the only company allowed to get away with this kind of ****, as long as you retards keep lapping it up, they're not going to change anything.

It amuses that Nintendo are often praised for the originality where there are

this many Mario games
14 Zelda games
10 Metroid games

with all the titles in each series of each the 2D era using the same basic formula and the same is true for the 3d era

Okay, so I missed the word 'purchase' in that post you quoted, big deal!

I want to make one thing completely clear though: I've never bought even one Mario Party in my life. I rented it and played it on Emulators, but I never even dreamed of spending big money on it.

And why is everyone bashing Echoes all of a sudden?! That was one amazing game, one of the best I've ever played, and I personally enjoyed it way more than Prime 1, though looking at it realistically Prime 1 was a better game. And Caael, I thought you hadn't played Echoes? Did you play it in the meantime or are you just basing your opinion on a review?

I'm yet to play Corruption though, and I'm looking forward to it.

[Someone Else]

I rented Corruption and didn't really get into it. I've been told it was simply a bit slow at the beginning.

The opening menu music was awesome though.

[My Best Wishes]

Omgorz liek zE1da n m4r10 n m3tr1od fllow th3 s4m3 g4mEplY pATern

Please, try to tell me that Halo 3 isn't exactly the same as Halo 1, but with a few more guns.
I understand that Nintendo is stale, it needs a fresh original series to make it more appealing, don't forget the good series it has though. Nintendo's survived this long for a reason. Fanboys aside.

[Someone Else]

^ Too true. And, let's be honest, despite the fundamentals being the same Zelda is pretty fresh each time. Ocarina of Time was, admittedly, basically ALttP in 3D. It featured two worlds with minor differences. (Ganon's Dark World and Normal World/Young Link's time and Adult Link's time)

Majora's Mask was quite different. It felt more like you were actually living in a real world with lots of side quests. Different things are happening every day. Plus, you had the ability to transform into 3 different characters. The Wind Waker was also somewhat of twist albeit for the worst. The only one that really has any backing to be called the same thing was Twilight Princess, but you know what? It was still good.

[My Best Wishes]

Agreed. I don't know what people's problem with Zelda is. It's good.
I've been playing Zelda since Link's Awakening on the original Gameboy. And I've played everyone since then, and you know what? They've all been fun and worth it.

[Laharl]

doesnt excuse that all the 2D games follow the formula of the original and al the 3D ones follow ther formula of Ocarina of Time. i'm pretty confident i could import a japanese copy of the next Zelda and still be able to play through it without problem.

[Toasty]

It sells for the same reason generic RPG's and FPS's sell. People like them. :unsure:

It may be unorigional, but I found Wind Waker fun, so yeah. :P

Dipset, on Jul 3 2008, 04:50 PM, said:

Yes they have. But 2 was better than 3.

BOTH OF THOSE FORKING SUCKED.

Seriously. I was unbelieveably dissapointed. MP4 was better than those two. M5 and later were/are horrible.

The origional beats all. Period.

[Laharl]

...and self castration beats the original

[Toasty]

Not really, but it's up there.

[Golden Legacy]

watch, on Jul 4 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omgorz liek zE1da n m4r10 n m3tr1od fllow th3 s4m3 g4mEplY pATern

Please, try to tell me that Halo 3 isn't exactly the same as Halo 1, but with a few more guns.
I understand that Nintendo is stale, it needs a fresh original series to make it more appealing, don't forget the good series it has though. Nintendo's survived this long for a reason. Fanboys aside.

watch, on Jul 5 2008, 02:33 AM, said:

Agreed. I don't know what people's problem with Zelda is. It's good.
I've been playing Zelda since Link's Awakening on the original Gameboy. And I've played everyone since then, and you know what? They've all been fun and worth it.

Well said, quoted for truth.

[Caael]

Majoras Mask is the best Zelda game in the series. If you argue, you're wrong.

Need moar termina.

[Legolastom]

Caael is 100% correct.

But as for the other Zelda games they do need the change I mean for **** sake all the games play out in the exact same way! "Get 3 orbs, get master sword, get 4 or 5 of these other things, go ganons tower, impale him in the face with your sword (This one however can change)"

I am a big fan of the Zelda series, but it does need to change, Twilight princess was no where near as good as the other for me because by the time I played Twilight princess the game itself just didnt feel as fun as the previous games in the series (Considering I had played all the console ones).

Mario however does change a lot between games and all I want from Mario is for them to not rehash levels and make the game longer than Galaxy.

On that note while I complted NSMB in a day I have spent over 80 hours on that game.

[Drizzy Drake]

I wish they would release a new, good 2D Mario. Stick with the SMW style, but new levels. New SMB sucked, for the record.

[Legolastom]

I liked it a lot actually I was really hoping they would release a "New super Mario world" next system maybe?

[Saturos S.]

I actually like TP a bit more then other zeldas. Maybe it's the twilight realm, real world switch. And me enjoying the wolf parts more then the person parts. The change that it needs?

[Golden Legacy]

I thought Wind Waker was a much more inspired game - and yes, even better - than Twilight Princess.


*sits back and waits for huge fallout and criticism*

[Nosferatu]

*high fives GL*

I thought Wind Waker was great. I never got what other people's problem with it was.

[Laharl]

it was too short and the sailing sections were retarded, otherwise brilliant, definately better than TP

[Legolastom]

WW was my second favourite, I actually loved the sailing sections.

[Someone Else]

Laharl, on Jul 5 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

it was too short and the sailing sections were retarded, otherwise brilliant, definately better than TP

How? If you take those things out you're left with the dungeons, which were so short and easy they seemed almost designed to teach kindergarteners lateral thinking, rather than challenging a Zelda fan like me.

Unless you're talking about side quests, which I didn't bother to find because sailing was so boring.

[Golden Legacy]

Nosferatu, on Jul 5 2008, 08:11 PM, said:

*high fives GL*

I thought Wind Waker was great. I never got what other people's problem with it was.

Laharl, on Jul 5 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

it was too short and the sailing sections were retarded, otherwise brilliant, definately better than TP

Legolastom, on Jul 5 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

WW was my second favourite, I actually loved the sailing sections.

Ahh! That's wonderful music to my ears.

WD, it sounds to me you're judging Wind Waker as a "Zelda" title and defining it by "Zelda" standard only, instead of judging it on its own.

There's more to it than that. It's about the game's atmosphere and presentation. It all came together remarkably well in Wind Waker. Whereas Twilight Princess' storyline always seemed to just be in the "background" and not really drive the game forward, Wind Waker actually presented a compelling tale that it made you feel a part of... tell me how it felt when you realized that

Spoiler

the ancient Hyrule was actually submerged beneath the same waves you sailed on?

That was Wind Waker's theme, and it clicked - the plot (far better than TP, though of course that's opinion), the game's graphics, presentation, and premise all came together.

[Legolastom]

Meh, I found them much better than Twilight princess's dungeons (Apart from a few).

[Someone Else]

I'm one to believe that gameplay > story, though in some cases (BioShock, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) the story and atmosphere can make the game all the more immersive, which does make the game and it's gameplay better. Though unfortunately, that just didn't happen with me and The Wind Waker.

It's not a bad game, but on that Zelda standard I was disappointed.

[TheEnglishman]

Caael, on Jul 5 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

Majoras Mask is the best Zelda game in the series. If you argue, you're wrong.

Need moar termina.

Can I say that it's as good as Ocarina?

[Toasty]

Nosferatu, on Jul 5 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

*high fives GL*

I thought Wind Waker was great. I never got what other people's problem with it was.

Ditto.

Though I've gotten farther in WW than I have any other Zelda game. <.<

[Golden Legacy]

Wind Dude, on Jul 5 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

I'm one to believe that gameplay > story, though in some cases (BioShock, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) the story and atmosphere can make the game all the more immersive, which does make the game and it's gameplay better. Though unfortunately, that just didn't happen with me and The Wind Waker.

It's not a bad game, but on that Zelda standard I was disappointed.

Well, of course. The Zelda standard is something TP succeeds at better than WW. More dungeons. More items. More free-flowing exploration. More quests. A longer title.

However, immersion is a different story. I see that it didn't happen with you in WW, perhaps those elements are what you look for in a Zelda title. For me personally, a lot of TP felt fragmented - the wolf mechanic is never fully explored or even explained (just that Link can't keep his normal form in the Twilight Realm). Later on, when you can use it freely, it seems to become more filler than anything, just to transport around faster. The storyline itself, beyond Midna (who was quite an amusing character) was woefully lacking... I never felt an urgency as to why I had to save Zelda. Granted, this might be true of other Zelda titles, but all there was in TP was this gold-diamond forcefield around the castle in the background as a reminder.

WW, on the other hand, had sailing as its premise. However arduous it might have been at times (though I, like Legolastom, actually quite enjoyed it), it was the premise of the story and the game's theme, not a seemingly random sidetrack to the main game (as the whole wolf gameplay was for TP). There was more life in WW. It was so vibrant a world, by comparison TP felt a bit dull and even gloomy at times. The cel-shaded graphics were simply breathtaking and really added a certain quality to the characters, it fit remarkably well with the motif, like a watercolor painting come to life. And the plot was simply beautiful, especially the way it linked itself with Ocarina of Time. I know I've mentioned this before, but the

Spoiler

scene where you immerse underwater and discover the submerged Hyrule beneath the waves is so atmospheric, was done so well, and how it reminded you that the entire world of Ocarina of Time was there... brilliance, sheer brilliance. Something I'll never forget and one of my favourite moments of gaming, ever.

So that's my input on it. It's a personal thing to be sure, but I honestly believe WW was so inspired, and so underappreciated a concept. I'd love to hear your response.

[Someone Else]

So, did you find Twilight Princess unfulfilling or some such?

I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say when I've already made my point. Twilight Princesses gameplay was simply superior in my eyes, that makes it a better game. Though you're right, the scene with Hyrule Castle was probably the high point of Wind Waker for me. After that it sort of went downhill.

[Aquamarine]

You know, I'm beginning to think I should stop calling myself a huge Zelda fan. Both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess were disappointing to me in a lot of ways. However, the better game is definitely TP, and I seriously don't understand how anyone can argue with that.

Sure, WW had a better story. But the way the story is presented, and the atmosphere of the entire game was so much better in TP. The characters are far more interesting and have way more personality than in WW. That point was actually in Nintendo's advertising campaign for WW, yet they failed so miserably in that aspect, but got it right in TP.

Then there's the fact that TP's a much larger game, with more dungeons and more items. Not to mention the fact that the dungeons were much more interesting in TP. The dungeons in WW pretty much sucked, while TP had some truly excellent ones, dungeons that could almost be compared to OOT's ones. Just remember Snowpeak Ruins, City in the Sky and my favourite, Arbiter's Grounds. Next, the items were much more original. Most of them in WW were taken directly from Ocarina, whilst TP had many completely new , and many old ones with slightly new abilities.

Of course, TP was also more difficult. WW is perhaps the easiest game I've ever played. TP however actually had me thinking how to get through some of the dungeons, searching aimlessly through them. Not mention that the graphics were definitely better in TP...

But screw this, Majora's Mask is the best Zelda ever, and I doubt they'll ever manage to make a better one.

[Someone Else]

Come to think of it the story-telling in TP pretty much owned the story-telling in TWW. The cutscenes in TP were great, and actually, the facial expressions are some of the best I've seen in gaming in general.

So basically, I agree with what Aqua said. TP's story presentation was better than TWW's. I found the world a lot more immersive too. Might be able to attribute that to Wii controls, though.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Jul 6 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

But screw this, Majora's Mask is the best Zelda ever, and I doubt they'll ever manage to make a better one.

It was definietly the most immersive game. You ended up remeeting the same characters, and gained a greater understanding of them.

[Drizzy Drake]

I just hated having to re-collect arrows and bombs and such every time I go back in time.

[Legolastom]

I feel the opposite of everything Aqua said, apart from the Majoras mask comment.

[Caael]

The problem that annoyed me with TP was the emptiness. You had masses of land to explore, with caves to traverse only for nobody to inhabit it. You got the occasional enemy to fight, but aside from that, Hyrule field was practically empty, which was a let down, because it makes me wonder why they even bothered with the vast space.

Majoras Mask was just oh so awesome. Is it out on VC in Europe yet, because if it is, i'm buying it straight away. Everything about that game was awesome; the surreal setting of Termina, the dark plot, the foreboding music. It was definately much darker than other Zelda's, and the mask system was awesome. I would honestly be ecstatic if the next Zelda game was a remake of Marjoras Mask. The NPCs were full of character, and there was loads of back-story to them, and hundreds of sidequests. I loved the surreal setting; Ikana Canyon is probably the best location in any game ever created. I cannot express my love for Majoras Mask in words, however I feel an orgasm would fit quite well.

[Drizzy Drake]

Or maybe not a remake, but a sequel. I mean, not a direct one since the story was kind of wrapped up, but I mean another game featuring masks predominetly.

[Caael]

Set in Termina. I dont care, even if the game is ****, if it's set in termina, i'll be content.

[Legolastom]

KOLIMPAH!

[Drizzy Drake]

Pedobear mask!!! When you wear it, you get the ability to take kids into Termina's dark alleys, and rape their virtual asses.

[Nosferatu]

What the **** do you think about during the day?

[Drizzy Drake]

Huh?

[Kuchiyose]

om nom nom nom?

[Drizzy Drake]

peeedooobeeeaear.

[Nosferatu]

Dipset, on Jul 6 2008, 03:05 PM, said:

Pedobear mask!!! When you wear it, you get the ability to take kids into Termina's dark alleys, and rape their virtual asses.

That.

To change the topic, is anything good coming out soon?

[Drizzy Drake]

Something good is coming out of my penis soon.

[Kuchiyose]

om nom nom nom?

[Laharl]

Nosferatu, on Jul 6 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

To change the topic, is anything good coming out soon?

not really. ToS 2 maybe

[Drizzy Drake]

That's a game that might actually bring my Wii out of hiding.

[Saturos S.]

Meh, I'm playing resident evil for the Wii now. The darker colours don't turn my eyes crazy after an hour of gaming.

Seriously, the mario games just become one blur after an hour.

[TheEnglishman]

It must be nice to have someone not yelling 'WAHOO!' at you as well. The spanish guys in Resident Evil may be creepy when they start yelling at you but that sound is nothing compared to Mario's yells.

[My Best Wishes]

Not when it's dark, raining and a 'zombie' with a sickle comes up from behind.
RE4 actually made me jump a few times. Can't say many games have made me do that. Maybe AVP2 when I was younger. Frickin Aliens.

[Laharl]

supposedly update 3.2 will permanently brick any modded Wii console.

Nintendo are once again overreacting Piracy that really isnt damaging their business all that much

[Aquamarine]

Thank GOD I didn't get a modded Wii like I could have. I knew something like this would happen.

[Toasty]

*goes and buys a mod chip*

I actually haven't started up my Wii in a little while. When's the update comming out?

[Laharl]

it came out the other day, all nintendo have done is lost customers

[Golden Legacy]

Haven't picked up my Wii in four months.

[Legolastom]

Apparently I can get £120 off at gamestation if I part exchange my Wii boxed. Might do that this weekend.

[TheEnglishman]

It's a shame Nintendo don't show this creative flair with their games.

[Someone Else]

Am I the only one who didn't realize that the Youtube page was being destroyed until 25 seconds in?

Yes? Thought so...

Am I the only one who thinks that Wario shaking stuff looks very, very dirty?

No? Thought so.

[Aquamarine]

Yeah, Wario shaking stuff turns me on as well...

Wha-? I mean, uh, so yeah, the Wii... It is phailing.

[Golden Legacy]

All I've played on the Wii the past months is the occasional round of Smash with some of the guys in the dorm, but otherwise nothing.

And even Smash I've come to realize lacks the depth of gameplay Melee has.

... yes, it took me this long to realize, but I've finally succumbed.

[Aquamarine]

I've been completely hooked to Radiant Dawn for the past few months, so I've been using my Wii quite a lot. God, that's one amazing game... I hope a game that good comes along soon. Hopefully Corruption or Brawl, my next two Wii games, will be able to live up to RD.

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Sep 26 2008, 03:36 PM, said:

I've been completely hooked to Radiant Dawn for the past few months, so I've been using my Wii quite a lot. God, that's one amazing game... I hope a game that good comes along soon. Hopefully Corruption or Brawl, my next two Wii games, will be able to live up to RD.

Metroid Prime 3: Yes.
Brawl: Most likely not.

[Aquamarine]

Nosferatu, on Sep 27 2008, 12:37 AM, said:

Metroid Prime 3: Yes.
Brawl: Most likely not.

Wow, I was really expecting you to say that neither game would. That's what I said to myself when I saw you viewing this topic. It's good that you guys aren't so predictable. Laharl would probably say that though...

And yes, this post has nothing to do with anything. Ignore it.

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Sep 26 2008, 03:40 PM, said:

Wow, I was really expecting you to say that neither game would. That's what I said to myself when I saw you viewing this topic. It's good that you guys aren't so predictable. Laharl would probably say that though...

And yes, this post has nothing to do with anything. Ignore it.

Un-ignored.

Also I'm a Metroid fan. I have every Metroid game in existance. Plus it was a damn good game.

[Aquamarine]

I know full well you're a Metroid fan. However, that's the very reason I thought you would say you didn't like it. Most fans seem to dislike Corruption. At least when comparing it to Prime and Super Metroid and stuff...

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Sep 26 2008, 03:51 PM, said:

I know full well you're a Metroid fan. However, that's the very reason I thought you would say you didn't like it. Most fans seem to dislike Corruption. At least when comparing it to Prime and Super Metroid and stuff...

I think you're thinking about Prime 2. Personally I would say Prime 1 > Prime 3 > Prime 2. Although it was still a good game.

Same with Return of Samus. Not as good, but still good.

[Someone Else]

Still want to play Corruption. I haven't really paid much attention, is it still in stores? Maybe I'll ask for it for Christmas.

[Ironsight]

Nosferatu, on Sep 26 2008, 03:56 PM, said:

I think you're thinking about Prime 2. Personally I would say Prime 1 > Prime 3 > Prime 2. Although it was still a good game.

Same with Return of Samus. Not as good, but still good.

I rented Corruption for the fatass's Wii a while ago. It was my first Metriniod game.

[Aquamarine]

Miley Cyrus, on Sep 27 2008, 12:58 AM, said:

I rented Corruption for the fatass's Wii a while ago. It was my first Metriniod game.

... wut/

Nosferatu, on Sep 27 2008, 12:56 AM, said:

I think you're thinking about Prime 2. Personally I would say Prime 1 > Prime 3 > Prime 2. Although it was still a good game.

Same with Return of Samus. Not as good, but still good.

Ah, I see. Well, I'm in complete disagreement with you about Prime and Echoes. I honestly didn't enjoy Prime much for some inexplicable reason, yet Echoes is simply one of THE best games I've ever played.

But hey, it's all a matter of opinion.

[Legolastom]

Hmm, what was it that you didnt like about Prime? It was one of the best games of the last generation IMO.

[Aquamarine]

I honestly don't know. When I think about it realistically, Prime was obviously a better game than Echoes and definitely one of the best games of the previous generation. But for some strange reason, I simply didn't have fun while playing through most of it, and could go for weeks without even touching the thing, and that was like, halfway through the game.

And then came Echoes, which I definitely enjoyed more than any other single player GameCube game and was completely hooked to. I know, it's strange.

[Legolastom]

I kind of know what you’re talking about, but then again that usually happens to me in most good games when I get to a difficult bit (In Prime it was giant Ice Rock person and the Space pirate area before that).

One of the best parts of the game IMO was when you were at the very furthest point on your map in the Ice place and it just felt so secluded and peaceful there.

[Laharl]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 26 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

And even Smash I've come to realize lacks the depth of gameplay Melee has.

who was saying that all along again? i cant quite seem to remember.....

oh wait.

it was me.

[Golden Legacy]

Ja, I know. And it's not like it's not fun when you're playing with friends, I came to realize that there felt very little difference between the characters, the same strategy and button presses seem to accomplish the same things.

It's fun in the "lol look what randomly happened!", not in the "wow, I actually pulled off that combo".

[Aquamarine]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 27 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

It's fun in the "lol look what randomly happened!", not in the "wow, I actually pulled off that combo".

Oh God, I hate that about Mario Kart. MK is one of the most over-rated game series ever.

Legolastom, on Sep 27 2008, 05:34 PM, said:

I kind of know what you’re talking about, but then again that usually happens to me in most good games when I get to a difficult bit (In Prime it was giant Ice Rock person and the Space pirate area before that).

One of the best parts of the game IMO was when you were at the very furthest point on your map in the Ice place and it just felt so secluded and peaceful there.

It's not the difficulty, I never stop playing a game because it's hard. Not to mention that I didn't find Prime to be overly difficult even once, whereas Echoes was often a ****ing nightmare. I had to fight that Boost Guradian guy about ten times before I beat him. Then again, I absolutely ADORED the difficulty of Echoes, and I kept replaying that Boost Guardian battle without switching off the console until I defeated him, because it was such fun. I just couldn't put the controller down.

And you're talking about Thardus, who I believe I defeated on my second try. Omega Pirate was way harder...

Anyhow, I usually enjoy difficult games more than I enjoy easy ones.

[Legolastom]

Really? I found the Omega pirate to be surprisingly easy and Thardus to be somewhat difficult (Beat him on my second try usually).

But Mario Kart, I used to play MK DS years ago with my mates at school everyday, about 6-8 of us playing, while individual races could vary a lot it became pretty clear who the best players were (I was 2nd or third best in the group). But it’s surprising how frequently someone will get a Blue shell when your about to win.

[Caael]

Omega Pirate was only hard because I never dodged, and Thardus was easy because i'd hide on the sides when he rolled up into a ball.

[Aquamarine]

Well, everyone's gaming experiences are different I guess.

So... Super Mario RPG. Anyone here played that? I'm wondering whether I should get it for VirtualConsole when I get the chance. I've been reading only praises, but I'm not sure if it would still be good in this day and age, whether it's "dated" now.

[Legolastom]

I played it before, it was good fun but nothing amazing. Also Geno-***s deserve to die.

[Nosferatu]

I've played through all 3 Primes on all difficulties.

Metroid Prime: On hard, I'd say the hardest boss was the Omega Pirate. Eas enough though. Also, everybody whined and *****ed about how they couldn't beat Meta-Ridley on hard. I didn't even lose an energy tank.

Prime 2: Not so much hard as annoying. That ****ing under-water boss in the lower part of Torvus (I haven't played 2 in a while so I hope that's right.)

Prime 3: The boss in the seed on Bryyo. Only hard because of lack of energy tanks. Some how I won in one go by some miracle. I had 5 energy for a really long time. Also Dark Samus. What a *****.

[Split Infinity]

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9633/wiiviewsge4.png

Come on, there was no way I was going to let that pass by.

[Legolastom]

Over nein

[Aquamarine]

Well, Nintendo's Tokyo game conference thing has just finished. It's better than what we got at E3, but not by a lot.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles announced for both DS and Wii. Mario & Luigi 3 for DS. Endless Ocean 2 and Pikmin 1 remake for Wii.

Yes, that's it. NO ZELDA OR KID ICARUS FOR YOU!!

EDIT: **** yeah, another DK Jungle Beat has been announced for Wii!

Btw, that was sarcasm.

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Oct 2 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

Well, Nintendo's Tokyo game conference thing has just finished. It's better than what we got at E3, but not by a lot.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles announced for both DS and Wii. Mario & Luigi 3 for DS. Endless Ocean 2 and Pikmin 1 remake for Wii.

Yes, that's it. NO ZELDA OR KID ICARUS FOR YOU!!

EDIT: **** yeah, another DK Jungle Beat has been announced for Wii!

Btw, that was sarcasm.

Mario & Luigi 3? **** yeah. The first two were amazing.

[Aquamarine]

I can't wait to play the second one.

Anyhow, a new Punch-Out for Wii is also being shown, as well as a rhythm game and Sin and Punishment. Oh, and Trace Memory 2. Here: http://www.nintendow...cfm?artid=16833

[Golden Legacy]

Sad to think that this could/should have been Nintendo's E3.

[Someone Else]

Pikmin 1 remake? Interesting...

Also, Mario & Luigi 3. I actually wasn't too happy with M&L2. Loved the first. But M&L2 took out the overworld from M&L1 and I just didn't like it as much as the first. The charm kind of died out.

[Aquamarine]

Wow, Nintendo sucks. Just found out that DK Jungle Beat isn't a sequel but just another crappy remake to showcase the Wiimote.

Ninty can suck my balls.

[Caael]

Aquamarine, on Oct 3 2008, 03:37 PM, said:

Wow, Nintendo sucks. Just found out that DK Jungle Beat isn't a sequel but just another crappy remake to showcase the Wiimote.

Ninty can suck my balls.

what the ****

no, really. What the ****.

Nintendo deserve to burn because they're so ****.

So what, you can wave your arms about. Who cares anymore?

[Laharl]

MADWORLD was the only original title there

fucking pathetic

i'd be ashamed to be a Wii owner

[Aquamarine]

Nintendo has released a list of all the GameCube games they will be remaking for Wii: DK Jungle Beat, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Mario Power Tennis, Chibi Robo, Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

And I have a prediction to make: Nintendo won't be making another Metroid, a new Pikmin, StarFox or F-Zero for Wii. Am I right or am I right?

[Caael]

Aquamarine, on Oct 4 2008, 03:27 PM, said:

Nintendo has released a list of all the GameCube games they will be remaking for Wii: DK Jungle Beat, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Mario Power Tennis, Chibi Robo, Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

And I have a prediction to make: Nintendo won't be making another Metroid, a new Pikmin, StarFox or F-Zero for Wii. Am I right or am I right?

does anybody even care anymore?

nintendo have probably given up on continuing any franchises, with the exceptions of mario and possibly zelda because anybody with sense has probably got a ps3 or 360 by now and sold their wii to an autistic child

[Laharl]

you are right.

F-Zero and Starfox are far too difficult for the average Wii owner, and who needs new Pikmin and Metroid when we have two whole remakes of each to look foward to?

[Golden Legacy]

To be entirely objective, had I not played the original Metroid Prime or Echoes, I wouldn't mind playing the game with Wii controls.

But yes, this is a ridiculously cheap tactic and way to cash in. Ah well... Tales of Symphonia 2?

[Aquamarine]

Golden Legacy, on Oct 4 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

But yes, this is a ridiculously cheap tactic and way to cash in. Ah well... Tales of Symphonia 2?

What about it? It's not like they mentioned it or anything.

All the even partially good games were third party. Madworld, the Conduit, CoD, Dead Rising, possibly FF:CC even. Perhaps the only worthwhile Nintendo game was Sin and Punishment, though I'm not holding out too much hope for it.

The DS had some decent stuff though. Mario and Luigi, Fire Emblem, Chrono Trigger...

Overall, the only Wii game that actually interested me isn't even a game at all. Endless Ocean 2 is the only title I'll be keeping my eyes open for.

But in the end, I am in full agreement with Caael... Ah well, it was a nice run. Nintendo has given me many good games throughout the past 10 or so years. I was planning on making the Wii my last console anyway. Just gotta play through a couple of remaining titles and that will be it. Plus, let's not forget, I have a perfectly working DS emulator, so I'll definitely be enjoying Mario and Luigi 3 and Fire Emblem DS in the future.

This conference is like a kind of warning to me, letting me know that a big part of my life will be over before I expected. I guess I'll just have to make the most of what I'm still to play, because I'm sure as hell not getting a 360 or PS3.

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Oct 4 2008, 07:27 AM, said:

Nintendo has released a list of all the GameCube games they will be remaking for Wii: DK Jungle Beat, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Mario Power Tennis, Chibi Robo, Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

And I have a prediction to make: Nintendo won't be making another Metroid, a new Pikmin, StarFox or F-Zero for Wii. Am I right or am I right?

**** off Nintendo. Make new games.

Why don't the remake Metroid II for the Gameboy? I mean, they re-did the first Metroid, and Super Metroid doesn't need to be re-done. Metroid II retards. Do it.

[Toasty]

Aquamarine, on Oct 4 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

What about it? It's not like they mentioned it or anything.

All the even partially good games were third party. Madworld, the Conduit, CoD, Dead Rising, possibly FF:CC even. Perhaps the only worthwhile Nintendo game was Sin and Punishment, though I'm not holding out too much hope for it.

The DS had some decent stuff though. Mario and Luigi, Fire Emblem, Chrono Trigger...

Overall, the only Wii game that actually interested me isn't even a game at all. Endless Ocean 2 is the only title I'll be keeping my eyes open for.

But in the end, I am in full agreement with Caael... Ah well, it was a nice run. Nintendo has given me many good games throughout the past 10 or so years. I was planning on making the Wii my last console anyway. Just gotta play through a couple of remaining titles and that will be it. Plus, let's not forget, I have a perfectly working DS emulator, so I'll definitely be enjoying Mario and Luigi 3 and Fire Emblem DS in the future.

This conference is like a kind of warning to me, letting me know that a big part of my life will be over before I expected. I guess I'll just have to make the most of what I'm still to play, because I'm sure as hell not getting a 360 or PS3.

Get a PS2 if you don't have one. Cheap, still being supported, and has a crapload of good games to play.

That's what I'm doing anyway. I might ask for a 360 next christmas though. Or buy it myself if I get a job.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Oct 4 2008, 03:27 PM, said:

Nintendo has released a list of all the GameCube games they will be remaking for Wii: DK Jungle Beat, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Mario Power Tennis, Chibi Robo, Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

And I have a prediction to make: Nintendo won't be making another Metroid, a new Pikmin, StarFox or F-Zero for Wii. Am I right or am I right?

I've been away for a few days so I didn't know about this. Can't the Wii support Gamecube games anyway? Surely people could buy a cheap gamecube copy and play that instead?

[Laharl]

*waits for inevitable removal of backwards compatibility*

[Blue]

Its only a matter of time actually. But for a different reason
Download capability is in for Gamecube games apparently. Was on IGN's site, but I can't remember the article.

~1500

[Lightning Star]

Uhh, I know this topic is kinda old, but I need some advice, and I wasn't sure whether or not to open a new topic.

I really like playing both guitar hero and rock band, but I've only ever played them for xbox 360. I have a Wii, and I'm wondering which game is better for the Wii. I want to get the whole set up (I'm surprisingly talented at the drums D:) so I don't want to invest in one that's going to suck. Also, what about the music choices for each? I want more modern rock music if possible.

[FusionDragon28]

Personally, I'd say go with either the 360 or PS3 versions, but since that wasn't your question...

I prefer Rock Band's visuals to Guitar Hero. I also like the equipment that comes with Rock Band. My Guitar Hero's guitar seem to be over-responsive and I can't even strum up and down without the game reading an extra strum.

As for the tracks, you might want to research what comes with the game, as well as downloadable tracks.

Rock Band 1 Tracks
Rock Band 2 Tracks
Rock Band Downloadable Tracks

Guitar Hero 3 Tracks
Guitar Hero: World Tour Tracks

FD28

[Toasty]

HEY GUYS. HEY, GUYS.

GUYS THE INTERNET CHANNEL IS NOW FREE.

AND ANYONE WHO PAYED FOR IT GETS A FREE NES GAME.

[My Best Wishes]

It was free in the first place.

[Toasty]

It was free for maybe the first 6 months or something. But then they started charging 500 points for it.