[Someone Else]

I got mine pretty early in the game. It's Eterna City's roadgate, it leads to the Cycling Road.

[Wiflewood]

Its in the gatehouse south of Eterna.

Getting through the fog is harder than I thought. And very annoying as it makes most of your attacks miss in battle :/

[Caael]

Ah, thanks.

[Toasty]

Wiflewood, on Jul 4 2007, 10:59 AM, said:

I think you're all just deluded about that one. I heard it worked in red and blue with a Great Ball, but after those games they stopped doing it. It may seem like it works, but its really just random chance. The fact that you both use different button combinations kinda proves this anyway, I bet if you switched to doing Left+B or right+B it would be exactly the same.

Besides, who needs Masterballs when you have Duskballs? They give 4x capture rate than pokeballs.

Atm I'm going through the foggy route after moving the psyducks. Without Defog. Yay.

If you haven't gotten Defog, go to the great marsh and talk to one of the guys in there. He's at the beginning. But I didn't know that at first, so I did what you're doing. D:
But II also had a machoke who's ability made all attacks land, and then my luxio knew shockwave as well.

And I also don't think that I'd be able to catch so many high level pokes at full health if this trick wasn't real.

[Wiflewood]

If you hold Up and B everytime you throw a ball, and you catch a lot of high level pokes, then obviously you're making the connection between pressing the buttons and catching the pokemon. How about standing on one foot everytime you throw a ball, then see if there is a connection? It'll be the same.

if you really want to prove this then do a study. Capture 100 of the same pokes at similar levels at full health. Throw 50 balls whilst pressing up and B, and 50 without. Tally up how many you caught first, second or third time for each condition.

Also you didn't specify how many balls you threw at it with full health before it caught it. If its any more than 3 then I think you're definitely deluded.

[gsninja]

I like to think the trick works. =D I caught Uxie, Azelf, Dialga, and Heatran all with the second ball used during their battles.

[Split Infinity]

My method goes like this:

Select Pokeball and press A twice to throw. Immediately hold down B+SELECT+LEFT. When Pokeball hits, release LEFT, and press/release DOWN each time Pokeball bounces. When Pokeball stops bouncing, release DOWN+SELECT and mash random D-Pad buttons.

I CHUZ U ENTEI!!

[Caael]

I thought Uxie, Mespirit and Azelf were obtained through a japan-only event. Same with Heatran.

[Toasty]

No, you don't even need to beat the elite 4 to get Uxie Azelf and Mespirit. But you do have to beat them to get heatran.

Wiflewood, on Jul 4 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

If you hold Up and B everytime you throw a ball, and you catch a lot of high level pokes, then obviously you're making the connection between pressing the buttons and catching the pokemon. How about standing on one foot everytime you throw a ball, then see if there is a connection? It'll be the same.

if you really want to prove this then do a study. Capture 100 of the same pokes at similar levels at full health. Throw 50 balls whilst pressing up and B, and 50 without. Tally up how many you caught first, second or third time for each condition.

Also you didn't specify how many balls you threw at it with full health before it caught it. If its any more than 3 then I think you're definitely deluded.

I don't do it every time. Only when I really need to, or just feel like it. Which is about 1/4 of the time. And every time I've used it, except for 5 instances, it's worked. And I've used it a lot more than 5 times.

[Folcon]

I hate the people on GTS. It seems like all anyone wants are legendaries and level 100s. They're nothing but greedy jerks. I saw a level 12 Cleffa offered and the person wanted a level 100 cleffa. Why? I just don't understand people anymore.

[Wiflewood]

Yeah I agree with you there escout.

When I was doing the "Evolved your own pokemon that need to be traded without trading trick" to get my Golems, I needed to make a random trade in order for it to work. I was hoping to find something like maybe a version exclusive for version exclusive, so searched for Misdreavus to see if anyone wanted Murkrow, but half the trades are just "I want level 100 Palkia lololol"

[Caael]

I lost interest in GTS when I saw somebody looking for a lvl 100 Dialga for a level 4 Starly.

[Wiflewood]

Haha. I saw that on my first time. Kinda depressing, although I guess there is nothing to lose by asking for it.

Caael, I don't know why you're bothering to train up so much. I reckon I could beat you now. I've just crushed the Hearthome gym with ease, I reckon I could tackle you :(

Here is the current team. I'm after the steel gym as we speak:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3759/newteamyp6.png

Wanna arrange a battle for this week sometime?

[Caael]

Wiflewood, on Jul 5 2007, 09:07 PM, said:

Haha. I saw that on my first time. Kinda depressing, although I guess there is nothing to lose by asking for it.

Caael, I don't know why you're bothering to train up so much. I reckon I could beat you now. I've just crushed the Hearthome gym with ease, I reckon I could tackle you :(

Here is the current team. I'm after the steel gym as we speak:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3759/newteamyp6.png

Wanna arrange a battle for this week sometime?

Sure you could take me? Entire team are level 40 now.

I'd gladly battle you, if my broadband was working. Should get it fixed over the weekend, but if not, then you'll be waiting a while for me to get a USB adaptor.

[Wiflewood]

Okey doke. I'll try to train up a bit so we're roughly equal levels when we battle!

Oh and if anyone wants a banner doing of their team (Like mine) then gimme a shout and I'll do you one.

[gsninja]

I finally got a Dusknoir last night after searching for one for almost a month. It's shiny, too. =D

[My Best Wishes]

I think I might play the conformist here. I'm going to start Pokemon Pearl, unlike my Diamond there will be no Cheats, no Haxed pokemon, so if I battle or do trades, it will all be legit.

[Nick Presta]

Anyone want to battle?

[Folcon]

I will if you have a party around level 30 or so. Whats your FC info?

[Toasty]

When I get the chance to go on GTS, I'll just be looking for low level pokes which I have had trouble getting a hold of. I'd much rather train them myself. I look upon people who ask for lvl 100's as lazy, and who basically want someone to build a team for them. I'm surprised they even battle for themselves instead of asking someone else to do it for them.

[Split Infinity]

How long do you think the GTS will be around, assuming I acquire a late version of D/P?

[Toasty]

Until so many versions of pokemon have been released that the GTS will become incompatible with the latest version.

[Wiflewood]

escout, I'll give you a battle, my pokes are about level 30. Friend code is in my sig, Try and find a time tomorrow when we're both on.

[Caael]

Wiflewood, on Jul 5 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

Oh and if anyone wants a banner doing of their team (Like mine) then gimme a shout and I'll do you one.

Do one for me!

Dont add the friend code, because I dont have one yet due to the internet messing up

- Lvl 42 Infernape
- 44 Bronzong
- 40 Staraptor
- 37 Gastradon ( Which i'm gonna ditch soon)
- 39 Kriketune
- 41 Luxio

And the name is Tim.

[gsninja]

I've decided to trade away the Dusknoir that I traded for, since it doesn't have the stats I want. So I'm trading it for a guy's level 100 EV-trained Dragonite and Tyranitar plus a Power Band. =D

[Toasty]

What's a power band? And please please PLEASE tell me where I can get a dratini.

[gsninja]

You can fish for one at Mt. Coronet. also, the Power Band is one of four Power items that increases EVs gained in battles.

[Toasty]

You mean kinda like the Macho Brace? But better?
And where might I obtain one of these? Besides tradeing of course.

[gsninja]

After you beat the Elite 4 and see all 150 Sinn'oh Pokes, you can use the boat in Snowpoint City to go to the city where the Battle Tower is located. In the prize building, you can get the four Power items for 16 Battle Points (BP), which you can win by fighting in the Battle Tower.

Can someone go into a Lv. 100 battle with me? I need to check the IVs of three of my Duskulls.

[Toasty]

I will, once I beat the game, transfer my guys over to Diamond from Ruby, and get a wifi connection.
As of now, I'm on trial road, and my dad finally has a somewhat decent reason for hooking up our router.

[Split Infinity]

Who gives a crap about superpowerful possibly-hacked abnormally high IV Pokemon anyway? I'd rather try and complete my Pokedex, which is the original goal of the game from the first town!

[My Best Wishes]

Split, there are 493 Pokemon! As if you will be able to finish it and retain a life.

[Split Infinity]

Hello? GTS? 1 Pokemon a day isn't that hard.

[Folcon]

Wiflewood, on Jul 6 2007, 01:27 PM, said:

escout, I'll give you a battle, my pokes are about level 30. Friend code is in my sig, Try and find a time tomorrow when we're both on.

Unfortunatly, I can't battle tomorrow, I'm moving that day and my wi-fi may not be up for another day or two after that. Maybe Tuesday or Thursday when I'm off of work. I'll be around then.

[gsninja]

Spam King, on Jul 6 2007, 04:24 PM, said:

Who gives a crap about superpowerful possibly-hacked abnormally high IV Pokemon anyway? I'd rather try and complete my Pokedex, which is the original goal of the game from the first town!

But my Duskulls aren't hacked, I bred them myself. D=

Also, I'm actually more focused on catching 'em all than training them. I just want to see if the IVs are good enough on at least one of them so I can start training it after I get more Pokemon. =| However, I'm writing a full walkthrough of Pokemon Diamond, so my hands are tied down even further.

[Wiflewood]

GSSF POKEMON WIFI LEAGUE

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...mp;#entry326647


In a completely unrelated matter, who else noticed that with the original 3 legendary birds (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres); their names spell "Uno, Dos, Tres" (1,2,3 in Spanish)?

[Toasty]

Wow. I had no idea. That's pretty cool, but I don't see why it wasn't "Articitchy Zapnii and Molsan" in that case. Probably because it would've sounded stupid otherwise.

[Caael]

Odd, because you dont encounter them in that order, if I recall right.

Without sequence breaking and going to places you shouldn't, it goes Zapdos ( In the power plant), Moltres ( Somewhere) and Articuno ( The twin islands near Cinnabar)

[gsninja]

Are you talking about the order you get them? In that case, it's Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres.

Talking about the "Uno, Dos, Tres" thing, I guess it's like that because of the order they appear in the Pokedex?

[Someone Else]

Saaay there... what's the fuss over EVs or IVs anyway? I just don't understand the point of having an uber Pokemon, it seems like more trouble than it's worth. Plus we should all know that there's just going to be ANOTHER Pokemon game so you'll have to start over again anyway.

I just want to enjoy the game! :D

[gsninja]

Wind Dude, on Jul 7 2007, 05:42 PM, said:

Saaay there... what's the fuss over EVs or IVs anyway? I just don't understand the point of having an uber Pokemon, it seems like more trouble than it's worth. Plus we should all know that there's just going to be ANOTHER Pokemon game so you'll have to start over again anyway.

I just want to enjoy the game! :D

EV training is enjoyable. =D It gives you a sense of accomplishment when you raise a really good Pokemon all by yourself. Then again, I spend most of my time in Pokemon games catching Pokemon and messing around.

[Nick Presta]

It's satisfying to know you got the most out of your Pokemon and that it can do it's job to the best it's stats will let it.

[My Best Wishes]

What is EV and IV, is it a pokemon cause I keep thinking of Eevee.

[Platinum Sun]

You just opened a big Pandora's Box my austrailan compadre, but I will attempt to explain.

IV is Individual Value. They're the invisible stats of your pokemon that determine how it will grow. They are set when a pokemon is caught and cannot be changed. They are determined by a pokemon's type, (Rock types tend to be slow with high defense, bird types are fast with low defense etc.) environment, (Grass, park, forest, cave, etc.) Nature, (Shy means high defense, Adamant means high attack etc.) time of capture, level of capture, and probably a few other things I forgot to mention. There also is a certain amount of random chance involved, so there will be those that don't abide by the general rules. For example, my Onix is the fastest pokemon in my party because I got some freak Onix that has a really high speed IV.

EV is Effort Value. They're a partially visible stat. (There's an NPC that will tell you if a pokemon has all its EVs assigned, as well as a Poketech app regarding EVs.) EVs are assigned to your pokemon as it trains based on what you tell it to do. Certain hold items affect EV gain, and vitamins can give your pokemon an EV boost. Basically, how you train your pokemon will have an effect on the stat bonuses it will receive upon leveling up. This is the main reason that pokemon caught at lower levels end up being more powerful. A pokemon ceught at level 50 might not have enough time to get all its EVs assigned even if it's trained up to 100. (And especially so once a pokemon's level is maxed, because its EVs lock at that point, that's why level 100 pokemon can't eat vitamins.) There is a cap to how many a pokemon can put into any one stat, as well as one on how many a pokemon has to use. (I'm not going to put any numbers because I feel I've gone into far too much detail already.

There are two main practices associated with these little-known stats. The first is 'IV farming' or catching numerous wild pokemon (or save-retrying a legendary) and selecting one from the group based on their stats at time of capture. (A pokemon's capture stats are perhaps the best indicator of their IVs aside from whipping out the ol' Hax Sword and taking a look at the game code.) Some choose to expand on that process by training all the pokemon up to the same level (Usually 40 or so) and making that decision at that point.

The second is 'EV training' which is raising a pokemon in a specific (Boring and complex) manner in order to maximize its potential. Kind of like pokemon boot-camp. Anyway, I think it's an admirable goal, but I personally don't subscribe to either practice.

Simply put, they're very complex and you'd probably live longer if you didn't give yourself gray hairs worrying about them. They're for professionals and people with no lives only. The rest of you, just play the game!

[gsninja]

It isn't necessary at all for in-game battling or friendly skirmishes. However, when you're a serious competitive battler, or if you're going up against serious competitive battlers like those on GameFAQs, you won't stand a good chance without EV training and decent IVs on your Pokemon.

[Nick Presta]

EVs and IVs and natures are important because the difference between Max EV & IV, beneficial nature and hindering nature is huge.
Take Metagross for example:

Base Attack: 135
Max attack with a hindering nature and Max EVs and IV: 332
Max attack with a beneficial nature and Max EVs and IV: 405
Difference: 73 attack points

405 attack at level 100 with a move with a base power of 60 to a Pokemon with 100 defense points, will deal between 175 and 206 damage.
332 attack at level 100 with a move with a base power of 60 to a Pokemon with 100 defense points, will deal between 144 and 169 damage!

The difference in damage is great. On one hand, 206 damage on 300 HP is ~68% of it's HP. 169 damage on 300 HP is ~56% of it's HP. Big difference in battling, especially with things like Leftovers, Life Orbs, and status afflictions which deal/recover extra HP.

[gsninja]

Yeah. Natures play another big factor in a Pokemon's growth. For example, take Infernape. Let's say you want to make it a physical sweeper. Therefore, you want its EVs to be located in Attack and Speed. However, let's say it has a Brave nature (+Atk, -Spd). Although Infernape's Attack will be really good, its Speed will suffer, and Speed is the main component of Infernape's strength in competitive battling.

[Toasty]

I think it'd be better to just work on strategies.

[gsninja]

We're not saying strategies aren't important. You just need Pokemon that are good enough to work together and carry them out. Balancing a team is part of having an effective strategy.

[Toasty]

I think the closest thing I'll ever do to EV training is using the macho brace/etc. and maybe some vitamins.

[gsninja]

EV-training is pretty worth it when you're battling a friend or someone else who's not an in-game Trainer. =P 252 EVs into a single stat means 63 extra points into the stat.

[Toasty]

Wow.

But I still will put little to no time EV training.

[My Best Wishes]

God this makes no sense at all. I'll just stick to convential leveling up and hope I don't fight Nick in the contest.

PS- It's Australian, yank :P (No offence intended, in the correction and yank, just a jibe.)

gsninja, on Jul 8 2007, 01:12 PM, said:

It isn't necessary at all for in-game battling or friendly skirmishes. However, when you're a serious competitive battler, or if you're going up against serious competitive battlers like those on GameFAQs, you won't stand a good chance without EV training and decent IVs on your Pokemon.

I could always just push 'select' during the battle for a 1 hit KO :D

[Wiflewood]

Atm I just go for natures and not EVs / IVs (Although I calculate the IVs and don't use the pokemon if they are terrible), however once I've finished the game and have access to more pokemon I'm going to breed and EV train a good team (taking into account egg moves, natures, EVs and IVs)

@WD: Yeah, but you can transfer over from the old games :D

[Split Infinity]

What's this about pushing Select, watch?

[Wiflewood]

he's a hax0r. so hes hax3d his game to make it OHKO when he pushes select.

[gsninja]

I've never heard of anything like that before. =O

[Wiflewood]

Well thats what I infir from his post anyway. Cos that sure don't happen in the normal game.

Teamwise, I've dropped Rampardos and Mothim, and have replaced them with...

well, wait and see.

[gsninja]

I'm thinking of changing my current team. I know I'm keeping these:

Infernape - Physical Sweeper
Blissey - Physical/Special Wall
Scizor - Staller

I think I'm still gonna get a Zapdos that's good enough. I don't think I want a Dusknoir on my team anymore, and I might trade my Togekiss for a Porygon-Z. Oh well, I'll just wait and see.

[Caael]

EV training confuses me. Once i've completed the game and caught em' all, I just start again. I dont really battle people online.

[Wiflewood]

I like the challenge of battling online, and even though I haven't done it so far on D/P, I used to use Netbattle quite a lot.

Although I also like themed teams which is why I might look into joining one of the many wifi leagues about, or starting my own (Once I've got nat. dex etc). Basically people become gym leaders / elite 4 and you battle them to try and get through the league. Although there are some pretty duff leagues about "gonna make a leege first 4 pple to sign up cna be gym leedrz!!111!!", there are some pretty good well organized ones out there as well.

[Nick Presta]

OKHO moves, etc don't work in Wifi battles or multiplayer battles in Battle Room.

Sorry watch =(

[Caael]

Watch hax. He doesn't care.

[Toasty]

Wiflewood, on Jul 8 2007, 11:49 AM, said:

I like the challenge of battling online, and even though I haven't done it so far on D/P, I used to use Netbattle quite a lot.

Although I also like themed teams which is why I might look into joining one of the many wifi leagues about, or starting my own (Once I've got nat. dex etc). Basically people become gym leaders / elite 4 and you battle them to try and get through the league. Although there are some pretty duff leagues about "gonna make a leege first 4 pple to sign up cna be gym leedrz!!111!!", there are some pretty good well organized ones out there as well.

I think we should take the top contestants from GSSF's wifi league and start our own.

[Nick Presta]

I agree.

[Wiflewood]

Yeah I think that'd be a really fun idea. Have some themed gyms/elite 4 and then a champion. We could then ask people on other forums to come and take the challenge of the GSSF League :D

*Shotgun Dark*

I'm sure I could come up with some badges and a banner etc in Photoshop :P

[gsninja]

That's actually a really good idea. =D

[Toasty]

I'm glad you all think so. :D

But I suck at makeing gym badges, so I'll just let Wifle do that...

[My Best Wishes]

Firsty, I'm playing Pearl atm and I am not hacking or cheating on that in anyway. Pearl is legit. My Diamond however is the one I'm using to generate Hacked Pokemon that people here on this forum are asking me for.

I thought I might try to find a site or a file with the D/P cheats to show you what I mean but I can't find one. Basiclly, I press 'Y' before my game and select cheats I want to us, if any. One of those is to push select before each attack and it's a 1hitko.

Nick- You sure? Apparently cheats work online...IDK, I don't really want to get banned from Wi-Fi.

I'm actually enjoying this Pokemon now, up to the second Gym now. That forest was a *****. Who was the girl I was escorting?

[My Best Wishes]

Double post, yes I know. But long posts have a habit of not being read properly.
I have the strangest problem. I go to GTS, go to Seek, it's fine most of the time, go to deposit and BANG. Blue Screen of Death. Well in a sense, I get sent back to the Station. Why does this happen? I've never even been on GTS on pearl before this. This is happening repeatedly.

[gsninja]

That's a really weird problem, watch. It's never happened to me, and I don't know anyone else that that's happened to, so I can't help. D=

I've finally written to the Lost Tower in my guide. It's so tiring when you're also typing up charts and stuff for Pokemon appearances and whatnot. @.@

[Someone Else]

So guys, I beat the Elite Four a couple of days ago and have seen all 150 Sinnoh Pokemon. (I'm surprised I did it, I've never managed it in any of the previous games :D)

Here's my Hall of Fame if you want to see it.

Empoleon Lv 51
Dialga Lv 49
Roserade Lv 48
Luxray Lv 48
Honchkrow Lv 47
Rapidash Lv 48

WD HAS A QUESTION. I think I somehow talked my sister into being interested in the Pokemon games (she likes Golden Sun so who knows) and I'm going to buy Pearl for her as a belated B-Day present. (her birthday's today 7/7) Since I can now use the Pal Park, I want to trade her in a Bulbasaur when she starts playing Pearl (Bulbasaur was her favorite Pokemon when we used to watch the anime). But the thing is, when she starts the game she obviously won't have the National Dex. So, would I be able to give her a Bulbasaur even though it's a "National" Pokemon?

This is particularily aimed at watch who owns both games.

[gsninja]

Yeah, you can still trade it to her. It just won't be recorded into the Pokedex until after she gets the National Deex. And congrats on beating the Elite 4 WD! =D

[Someone Else]

Hmm and since my team has been posted, anyone want to rate it? I'm still not sure I'm feeling this one. I think it's Rapidash mostly, I need a better fire Pokemon. =/

[Toasty]

Other than Rapidash, it's pretty good. No holes.
But really, Rapidash would be a much better poke if it would've evolved at a lower level, say, 15 or 20 instead of 30 something.

[Someone Else]

I believe Ponyta evolves to Rapidash at lv 40.

I'm swapping my Rapidash for Arcanine the first chance I get. :D

[My Best Wishes]

Can I ask what Pal Park is?

Congrats. I'm only 3 badges in...

[Toasty]

Pal Park is a place in Sinnoh where you can transfer your pokes from the advanced generation to D/P. You have to have the national dex and have beaten the elite four to acess it though.

@WD: Yeah, I can see why. Arcanine is one of my favorite Fire pokes, aside from Charizard, Blaziken, and then Groudon.

[My Best Wishes]

Oh so I can't catch a Bulbasaur or anything from there? (That's what I thought WD's post meant.)

[Toasty]

Well technically, you can, but only as long as you've transfered it to D/P. You see, I think it's something like the safari zone, but there's a limit to how many pokes you can have transfered into the park at any givin moment. I think it's either 3 or 6.

[Nick Presta]

Post your team with their natures, stats (EVs if you trained, stats otherwise) and movesets, WD.

[Someone Else]

Alright, here's my current team:

Roserade Lv 48
Hasty
Atk 77
Def 71
Sp. atk 129
Sp. Def 118
Spd 112

Honchkrow Lv 48
Naive
Atk 137
Def 66
Sp. atk 114
Sp. Def 63
Spd 95

Luxray Lv 49
Rash
Atk 135
Def 96
Sp. Atk 121
Sp. Def 85
Spd 99

Dialga Lv 49
Lax
Atk 126
Def 137
Sp. Atk 155
Sp. Def 101
Spd 96

Rapidash Lv 50
Quiet
Atk 111
Def 88
Sp. Atk 100
Sp. Def 98
Spd 122

Empoleon Lv 51
Calm
Atk 104
Def 118
Sp. Atk 130
Sp. Def 132
Spd 85

That should be right. With that, I'm going to frolic in the Pal Park.

[gsninja]

Yay, I might actually get to trade my Togekiss for a Porygon-Z that's a badass. =D

[Toasty]

Do give us a picture of this porygon-Z, would you?

[Someone Else]

Pal Park is confusing me. It keeps asking me to "stock" six Pokemon, but I have all six on my belt in my GBA game...

Nevermind, didn't see the "Migrate" button.

This post has been edited by Wind Dude: 08 July 2007 - 10:26 PM

[gsninja]

http://www.serebii.n...ex-dp/474.shtml

Ok, here's my current team so far:

Infernape
Lv. 52
Adamant
HP - 146
Atk - 180
Def - 86
Sp. Atk - 117
Sp. Def - 96
Spd - 159

Blissey
Lv. 100
Impish
HP - 704
Atk - 45
Def - 117
Sp. Atk - 143
Sp. Def - 294
Spd - 121

Scizor
Lv. 100
Adamant
HP - 282
Atk - 394
Def - 236
Sp. Atk - 131
Sp. Def - 196
Spd - 229

Porygon-Z
Lv. 100
Modest
HP - 311
Atk - 176
Def - 176
Sp. Atk - 405
Sp. Def - 186
Spd - 279

Dragonite
Lv. 100
Adamant
HP - 323
Atk - 403
Def - 218
Sp. Atk - 192
Sp. Def - 235
Spd - 244

That's my team so far. Look at that monster Special Attack on my new Porygon-Z. <3 I still need to get one more Pokemon to fill the slots.

Haha WD.

[Split Infinity]

Hey guys, I found this neat hack made by this guy called zel:

http://datacrystal.o...emon_Shiny_Gold

It's an Advance remake of Pokemon Gold Version, although it's a little glitchy.

[EDIT] Screens.

http://wah.studiopokemon.com/index.php?go=...d/shinygold.php

[Someone Else]

Nice find, I'm downloading now. I'd be in heaven if they made a DS remake of Gold/Silver.

I got a female Bulbasaur! Time to make Bulbasaur babies. :D

[Split Infinity]

WD, tell me if you manage to get it working. :D

[Someone Else]

It'd help if the site was in ENGLISH... from what I understand we need something called "lips.exe" but I don't even know where to go in the site to get it.

I'll figure it out tomorrow!!

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Jul 9 2007, 02:24 PM, said:

Pal Park is confusing me. It keeps asking me to "stock" six Pokemon, but I have all six on my belt in my GBA game...

Nevermind, didn't see the "Migrate" button.

Wait, so If I have R/S/E or FR/LG inserted in Slot-2, that gives me more content on D/P?

[Someone Else]

Yeah, here's a guide about what you'd need to do so you can understand it.

1)Obtain the National Dex
2)Save, turn off the power
3)Insert a GBA Pokemon game
4)Turn on the DS again, start D/P
5)Select "Migrate Pokemon from ___"

Then you will see a screen with some directions, follow them and eventually you'll be shown your complete PC Box collection of Pokemon from your GBA game. The game will ask you to choose six of these to transfer to D/P. You can catch them again in Pal Park with six Pal Park balls. The Pal Park balls have an 100% chance of capture, so don't worry about going through the hell of catching your old legendaries again.

But, once you transfer them to D/P, they're gone from your original, so think about it beforehand and breed your starters if you can. That's what I'm doing with Charmander/Bulbasaur/Squirtle.

[My Best Wishes]

WD you're a bloody ripper.
So you can thereby get Pokemon from Blue and Red via FR and LG, and the Pokemon from R/S/E, how would you get them from G/S/C though?

[Split Infinity]

The G/S/C Pokemon are scattered throughout both GBA games and Pokemon Collosseum.

As well as those bloody Nintendo events...

[Someone Else]

watch, on Jul 8 2007, 11:31 PM, said:

WD you're a bloody ripper.

I'm not familiar with Australian slang so I'll just assume that's a good thing.

[Caael]

What's even more annoying about the event pokemon is the GTS.

' lulz i wun uh lvl 100000 arceus 4 uh level 2 bidoof lmao'

Grr

[Someone Else]

^ I once saw somebody who wanted a lv 80+ Palkia for his lv 70-something Palkia. I mean, WTF?! XD

I'm not making this up, guys, it might still be up there. Go look if you see this soon, it might still be there.

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Jul 9 2007, 04:39 PM, said:

I'm not familiar with Australian slang so I'll just assume that's a good thing.

Yes I guess it's a little bit too australian. Yea it's a good thing, like champion or gun.
Split, I was referring more to G/S/C legendaries and Beginner Pokemon.

[Split Infinity]

The G/S/C starters you get from Prof. Oak after completing the Pokedex. Since you can't complete your Pokedex without them, maybe you just need to fill the Kanto Pokedex?

[My Best Wishes]

So I get the G/S/C starters after finishing the Pokedex on FR/LG?

[Split Infinity]

I think you only get one starter, but as far as I know, yes. Trade 'em around?

[EDIT] Whoa, hold up! Serebii.net says that you get them in EMERALD version after completing your HOENN Dex. Another reason why I should hate myself for losing it.

****!

[Wiflewood]

So, about this league then (The one we're setting up)

Whose interested in being a part of it? Most of these leagues have 8 gym leaders and an Elite 4, but since I don't think we have enough people for that I think we should just stick with gym leaders. I think it'll be a lot of fun, its more fun playing with a 'themed' team anyway, it gives you a more personal sense rather than being like everyone else who uses Garchomp/Blissey/Skarmory/Roserade etc

So anyway, post here if you're interested and we can discuss it further.

Not forgetting the inter-GSSF Wifi League as well, its in the 'User contests' area if anyone wants to participate.

[My Best Wishes]

Yea sure I'm in. Providing I can use my Hacked version I'm up for any type.

[Caael]

I dont get exp-share. Either it's not working or there's something I dont know. Is the exp shared equally between all the party, or does each 'mon get the same ammount as you would without the share?

[Someone Else]

Not interested. I somehow doubt I'd be able to beat any of you EV trainers. =/

[Caael]

Wiflewood, on Jul 9 2007, 12:12 PM, said:

So, about this league then (The one we're setting up)

Whose interested in being a part of it? Most of these leagues have 8 gym leaders and an Elite 4, but since I don't think we have enough people for that I think we should just stick with gym leaders. I think it'll be a lot of fun, its more fun playing with a 'themed' team anyway, it gives you a more personal sense rather than being like everyone else who uses Garchomp/Blissey/Skarmory/Roserade etc

So anyway, post here if you're interested and we can discuss it further.

Not forgetting the inter-GSSF Wifi League as well, its in the 'User contests' area if anyone wants to participate.

I'll be the first, weakest leader as i'm not interested in EVs or IVs or personalities. I dunno what i'll specialise in yet, but it wont be limited to type.



Oh, and I have crowned Onix the official coolest pokemon EVER.

And I found out how to use the wassisface. Exp share, so dw about that now.

[Wiflewood]

You sure WD? I'm not going to do a load of EV training, in fact I'd rather be one of the weaker/entry level gym leaders cos I know I'm gonna get trounced quite a bit :D

[Nick Presta]

gsninja, on Jul 9 2007, 12:30 AM, said:

http://www.serebii.n...ex-dp/474.shtml

Ok, here's my current team so far:

Blissey
Lv. 100
Impish
HP - 704
Atk - 45
Def - 117
Sp. Atk - 143
Sp. Def - 294
Spd - 121

Scizor
Lv. 100
Adamant
HP - 282
Atk - 394
Def - 236
Sp. Atk - 131
Sp. Def - 196
Spd - 229

Porygon-Z
Lv. 100
Modest
HP - 311
Atk - 176
Def - 176
Sp. Atk - 405
Sp. Def - 186
Spd - 279

Dragonite
Lv. 100
Adamant
HP - 323
Atk - 403
Def - 218
Sp. Atk - 192
Sp. Def - 235
Spd - 244

That's my team so far. Look at that monster Special Attack on my new Porygon-Z. <3 I still need to get one more Pokemon to fill the slots.

Haha WD.

I'll only deal with your Level 100 pokemons.

Your Blissey is a little strange. Impish natures gives it +Def and -Sp.Atk. Considering Blissey only uses special attacks (most notably Ice Beam), you need all the Special attack you can get. A better nature would've been Bold (+Def -Atk). I don't know what sort of set you're running but 714 HP would've been great and it's defense is weak. 130 Defense really is needed to take anything other than a special attack (in the odds you're left with Blissey) and due to it's base 55 speed, you won't be sweeping much when you can't take one physical hit.

Scizor - good nature, it's speed is 229, enough to run most bulky Gyarados' although some may surprise you :D

Porygon-Z: perfectly EV trained, although I don't know why you only have 311 HP (I have 312 on my Porygon-Z). It must have 30 IV in HP.

Your Dragonite looks fine.


Good work on the team. I can't wait to battle :P

[gsninja]

That Blissey was traded to me, so yeah. =P I would have loved it if it was a Bold nature, but it can take Physical attacks well anyways, since its HP and Defense are almost maxed. Oh well, thanks for complementing my team. =D

As for my last member, I want a Physical Wall. I don't know what I want, though. Skarmory and Bronzong are good choices, but they're too typical. =| I may want a Weezing, though. It looks good enough for one.

[Caael]

Bronzong is so awesome. He's my wall of my group.

I still need a decent water dude. I ditched Gastrodon, for Remoraid, who evolved into Octillery, but I only have him because I need somebody who can surf.

I'm ditching Kriketune for Sneasel, and as soon as I find the razor claw, Weville.

[Nick Presta]

Go with Hippowdon.

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Impish
Earthquake
Ice Fang / Stone Edge (Ice Fang for Garchomp and SE for Gyarados)
Roar
Slack Off

[Caael]

Doing Ice Gym now...

[Toasty]

I'm in for the wifi league seeing as I came up with the idea. :D
But I think we should decide who get's what position through battleing. Just like the tounament wifle's set up.

And I think I'll try the Shiny Gold verison game. Looks interesting.

[Wiflewood]

Yeah agreed. If you could all choose a type as well it'd be good. You need at least 4 on your squad of 6 that have that type, but they can be dual types. A good one to choose is Flying as it gives you access to powerful things like Skarmory, Dragonite, Salamence etc, who are all part flying. For the 3 in your squad that aren't the type of your gym you should try to choose ones which topple your weaknesses.

@Caael: Octillery is one of the new members of my squad whose going to replace Mothim :D

[gsninja]

Caael, on Jul 9 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

Doing Ice Gym now...

That Gym was SO easy. Then again, I had Infernape, so that's probably why. =P

Hippowdon might not be a bad idea. I'm thinking these EVs for it: 252 Defense, 126 Attack, 126 HP. Or should I put 252 in HP and 6 into Attack?

[Nick Presta]

252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Atk

It will be attacking with STAB EQs on base 112 attack (not bad) and Ice Fang/SE are for specific pokemon so 4 EVs in attack are fine. Maxing out HP/Def is more important.

Also, remember that Hippowdon creates a sandstorm so you need to watch out for that. Stealth Rock + Spikes + Life Orb + SandStorm + Poison/Burn = dead.

[Toasty]

Empoleon is also a good choice for the ice gym, since Ice does half damage to water, and steel is super effective against Ice. Torterra would get his fuzzy green ass kicked all over the floor though.
I think I'll do fire, but is it all right if we have one ledgendary in our party?

[Nick Presta]

I would follow the rules here: http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...showtopic=10826

[gsninja]

Hey Nick, can you do an IV battle with me for a minute? There are 3 Duskulls I wanna check the IVs of.



EDIT: Done. -Nick

[Someone Else]

Hey Nick, my team?

[Nick Presta]

Wind Dude, on Jul 9 2007, 12:12 AM, said:

Alright, here's my current team:

Roserade Lv 48
Hasty
Atk 77
Def 71
Sp. atk 129
Sp. Def 118
Spd 112

Honchkrow Lv 48
Naive
Atk 137
Def 66
Sp. atk 114
Sp. Def 63
Spd 95

Luxray Lv 49
Rash
Atk 135
Def 96
Sp. Atk 121
Sp. Def 85
Spd 99

Dialga Lv 49
Lax
Atk 126
Def 137
Sp. Atk 155
Sp. Def 101
Spd 96

Rapidash Lv 50
Quiet
Atk 111
Def 88
Sp. Atk 100
Sp. Def 98
Spd 122

Empoleon Lv 51
Calm
Atk 104
Def 118
Sp. Atk 130
Sp. Def 132
Spd 85

That should be right. With that, I'm going to frolic in the Pal Park.

Roserade: You want an increase in speed with your nature but not a decrease in defense. Timid would be best (+Spd -Atk). Oh well. Roserade should have some type of fire move (Hidden Power Fire) as Steels wall you (They are immune to poison and resist Grass). You should also get something like Shadow Ball for Gengars (Which resist poison with 1/4 damage).

Honchkrow: It's defenses are weak but it's attack is good and it's HP is decent.

Luxray: Depending on it's ability, you either want a CBRay or a MixRay. If you have Rivalry, you can do Choice Band as you get to work with your attack rising 2 levels if the opponent is the same gender as you, with that plus your high attack and choice band, you're doing serious damage with Spark or Crunch. If you have intimidate, go for Thunderbolt, Crunch, TWave and HP Grass.

Rapidash: With wide lens, you can bring the % of Megahorn, Hypnosis and Will-o-wisp up to 93.5%, 77% and 82.5% respectively. Rapidash is fast so it can easily inflict status and then pound away at you.

Empoleon: I like it as a support/wall type pokemon. Surf, Grass Knot, Icebeam and Rest/Stealth Rock/Roar/Protect (with leftovers) for support.

[gsninja]

Just remember that you generally can't use Dialga in competitive battling, since it's an Uber, and is normally used only in Uber designated battles.

I'm thinking of having my Porygon-Z hold either Choice Specs or Wiseglasses. Although Choice Specs increases Sp. Attack by 1.5x, Porygon-Z can only use one attack. If I use the Wiseglasses, though, Porygon-Z will only get a 10% Sp. Attack boost, but will be able to use the rest of its attacks as well.

I don't know what to choose...

[Nick Presta]

Depends on the moveset. If you're doing the standard Nasty Plot setup, you may consider Life Orb.

[gsninja]

Eh, I don't like the HP loss after each damaging attack. I can always just hit-and-run if it has Choice Specs, though.

[Nick Presta]

Well, NP + 405 Sp.Atk + Life Orb = OHKO most of the time. You lose ~31 HP after each attack. You should be fine.

[Split Infinity]

Remind me what a Life Orb does?

[gsninja]

Life Orb boosts Attack & Sp; Attack by 1.3x, but you lose a bit of HP for each damaging attack you use.

[Split Infinity]

Wacky. Can it knock you out though?

[Nick Presta]

A NP'd, Life Orb'd, Tri Attack with Adaptability with 405 special attack:

Damage = ((((2 * Level / 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness/Resistance * RandomNumber / 100


DAMAGE = (
(
(
(2 * 100 / 5 + 2)
* 1053 * 80 / 307)
/ 50)
+ 2)
* 2 * 1 * 100 / 100)

DAMAGE = ~464.

Porygon-Z's attack power is 1053 due to Nasty Plot and Life Orb - 405 * 2 = 810 * 1.3 = 1053. That's 464 damage to Blissey. That means you do about 65% of Blissey's HP with that and lose 31 HP. A fair trade-off, I think :D


To change it around, change the 307 to the special defense of the pokemon you want.

[gsninja]

You made a good point there, Nick. I may actually try that.

One more thing, do any of you have a TM46 you can give me? =D

[Nick Presta]

I have it. I can't trade you right now as I got to start an essay but I can do it later tonight or tomorrow.

[Split Infinity]

Hurr? Answer my question you underlings!

[gsninja]

You mean if you can knock yourself out with the Life Orb? Yes, you can. And don't call us underlings. >=O

The Battle Tower battlers are starting to get REALLY lucky with me. I barely won a battle because a Poke Kid's Hippowdon nailed me twice in a row with Fissure. Not only that, but Quick Claw activated twice in the course of three battles, and five Pokemon survived by hanging on to Focus Sashes.

Not a great Battle Tower day for me. D=

[Nick Presta]

My record thus far is 42 battles. I got swept by a Tauros with Anger Point. =(

That's 42 battles for Single Battle (talked to the middler person).

[Split Infinity]

I always hated the battle tower. It felt too similar to competetive battling, where you can't possibly win without maxed EVs. How am I supposed to upgrade my trainer card!?

[gsninja]

By making a new one. =P

With my new TM46, I'm gonna hunt Lucky Eggs.

[My Best Wishes]

I am having a really wierd problem. Two acutally. One is in Veilstone city, whenever I battle Team Galatic to win Dawn's Pokedex, i freeze right after the battle.
Two. On GTS, it says 'That Pokemon cannot be traded' when I try to trade my Turtwig for a Piplup.

7 badges down.

[Someone Else]

Dude, you always seem to have weird problems with Nintendo products...

This sucks. My choice for avatar is limited to Roughneck, School Kid, Black Belt, and Rich Boy. All of those are LAME.

[gsninja]

Watch, when you're trading the Turtwig, are you making sure it's the right level and/or gender?

[My Best Wishes]

It's only ever been my DS that hates me.

Look it up, it's under a girl called NAMI.
Wanted
TURTWIG
ANY
that's all there is. I fit the requirements...

[Wiflewood]

GTS has been a bit dodgy recently I think. They blocked all trades of legendary pokemon for a while.

Making my way to the ice gym now. Have Lucario & Octillery in my squad instead of Mothim & Rampardos.

I totally owned the steel gym btw. OHKO'd Bastiodon with Earthquake and it wasn't even a critical :D

[Caael]

Wiflewood, on Jul 10 2007, 03:50 PM, said:

GTS has been a bit dodgy recently I think. They blocked all trades of legendary pokemon for a while.

Making my way to the ice gym now. Have Lucario & Octillery in my squad instead of Mothim & Rampardos.

I totally owned the steel gym btw. OHKO'd Bastiodon with Earthquake and it wasn't even a critical :D

Where did you get Lucario? GTS?


Done ice gym, done Team galactic HQ and

Spoiler

Freed Uxie, Mespirit and that other one. The power is still out in the Sunnyshore city

so what do I do now?

I want to replace Onix with Lucario for a decent fighter for the final electric gym, and I want to get a Sneasel because they are awesome. But I cant catch Sneasel because all my poke's are too high level and kill him though. I'll get onix to fight him because the wild Sneasel's are about the same level as my Onix (36)

[Platinum Sun]

You can get your own Lucario in

Spoiler

Iron Island, there's a guy there (Who, not coincidentally I assume, looks just like the hero from the movie Lucario and the Mystery of Mew) anyway, if you team up with him and beat the dungeon with 5 pokemon in your party, he'll give you an egg. It hatches into Riolith and when it evolves,

you'll have your very own Lucario!

After beating the ice gym you have to go to

Spoiler

Mt. Coronet again, this time you'll go all the way to the top and fight the fight of your life at least three times, in sucession. So be well prepared with healing items (get to know those depatment store vending machines really well) an escape rope and a crapload of repels. You'll fight Dialga/Palkia when its all over, their catch rate is like 30% and Dusk balls are active here,

so if you waste your Master Ball on it I'll cut out your eyes with a rusty spoon.

[gsninja]

Don't be too violent, Platinum. =|

So, I got a Surfing Pikachu last night. I've been fighting in the Battle Tower more, but I don't really know what to do now. I'm too lazy to catch or train Pokemon right now, and I'm not in the mood for battling. D=

[Caael]

So PS,

Spoiler

you get Dialga before you defeat the Elite four, or even the 8th gym leader? Will the power to sunnyshore be restored after that? And what level would you suggest I be?

Got the egg, when will it hatch?

Lulz i'll train my Sneasel to be really high and use False strike on Dialga.

[gsninja]

Caael.

Spoiler

It's False SWIPE. :D Also, you do get Dialga/Palkia before the 8th Gym Leader. The power will be restored after you catch or defeat Dialga/Palkia.

Oh, and the egg will hatch after several thousand steps.

[Platinum Sun]

In order:
Yes, Yes, Yes, 45, 5500 steps, good strategy, I'd also recommend putting it to sleep or paralyzing it so that it dosn't Pwn the pokemon you're using.

Spoiler

I'm putting in more spoiler tags to mess with people

steal one so that you can get a car.

Spoiler

Just act casual and stare at their confused faces

kill a chicken with it,

Spoiler

HEhehe! This is fun!

and that's why Al Gore is a douchebag.

Spoiler

BLAAAAAAAA! poo. :D Look! A distraction!

*runs away*

Spoiler

________________________

[Toasty]

Spoiler

Girgleschmittyweisinhower!

HUGE ass spoiler right there^ Don't read if you don't like games being ruined for you.

I'm haveing trouble getting through victory road. There's this fat guy standing in front of a cave like entrance somewhere inside victory road, and he won't move. He just talks about...something. Wtf do I do now?

[gsninja]

You don't go through there. That's an optional place to go through after you beat the Elite Four.

[Toasty]

Okay, so what's back there?

[gsninja]

Well,

Spoiler

it's another part of Victory Road that you need to get through by using Defog. There's also a girl who wants to get through, so you'll have a partner. Once you get through, you'll arrive on Route 224, which is nothing special.

[Toasty]

There's no rare pokemon, or even rare TM's/items?

[Wiflewood]

Haha, Caeel we must be on the same wavelength :D

I'm getting rid of Drifblim from my squad and replacing it with Sneasel. I already have a better ghost type (Spiritomb), and Drifblim isn't that good anyway (High HP, but thats about it)

So I've caught 2 Sneasel and put em in the Daycare as I want to train it up from a low level and not level 33.

Also means I can get a better nature :)

Also I beat the ice gym quite easily. Earthquake rocks :smile:

Octillery is good in my team as well. If you have him, take him to the Move relearner in Pastoria and get him to teach Octillery 'Gunk shot'. 120 power poison move. Helped me own abomasnow in the ice gym.

[My Best Wishes]

That Battle before that rare fantastic uber deity thing was ****ing impossible...
1 badge left :D

[Caael]

Rare fantastic uber deity thing?

[Wiflewood]

Dialga/Palkia.

The battle hes refering to are:

Spoiler

2 of the Glactic commanders and your rival.

I'm on my way there now :D

Oh and the Weaville/Sneasel is going to be part of my Dark squad when I begin to train it properly. Version 1 will be non-EV trained (but with natures, IVs and moves) but then I'll probably redo em with EVs.

Heres a plan, which will probably change. Suggestions if you will :smile: Remember at least 4 should be Dark type, but here I'm using 5 Dark types:

Houndoom (Dark/Fire)
Shiftry (Dark/Grass)
Sharpedo (Dark/Water)
Weaville (Dark/Ice)
Spiritomb (Dark/Ghost)
Claydoll (Ground/Psychic)

Or maybe an Absol (Dark) instead of one of em..

[Caael]

Spoiler

Does your rival team up with Galactic then?

Claydoll isn't dark...

What about Honchrow or w/e it's called. Dark flying?

[Wiflewood]

Caael, on Jul 11 2007, 02:51 PM, said:

Spoiler

Does your rival team up with Galactic then?

Claydoll isn't dark...

What about Honchrow or w/e it's called. Dark flying?

Thats why I put "(Ground/Psychic)" after it in brackets...

I need a bit of a mix, but as I said, at least 4 I want to be Dark and I have 5 there.

Honchrow...yeah Its alright but Flying type is a bit meh. I'm pretty sure Weaville etc can learn Aerial Ace.

Currently hatching Sneasel eggs. Hatched 5 so far but none were the right nature.

EDIT: Got a Naive one. 3 more eggs to hatch though. If none of them are better natures I'll stick with Naive..

[Platinum Sun]

Caael, on Jul 11 2007, 09:51 AM, said:

Spoiler

Does your rival team up with Galactic then?

Spoiler

No, he teams up with you so that you can have a double-battle with Mars and Jupiter. He's ok I guess, it was nice to have a patsy to distract my opponent while my Torterra pwns them both every round with razor leaf, but he gets smoked so he heals you and runs away leaving you to fight the Galactic boss and Dialga on your own.

[Someone Else]

Spoiler

SPOILERS OMFG

I'm raising Bulbasaurs, Squirtles, and Charmanders. If you want one let me know in this topic, but offer me good Pokemon, of course. I put a Lv 1 Bulbasaur up on GTS for an Any-lv Turtwig. So I guess I'm looking for a Chimchar from you guys right now, but just give me offers.

[Wiflewood]

I can breed you a chimchar no probs WD.

A Charmander in return would be a great help :smile:

gtg for my dinner now but I'll be available in half an hour if you want to trade.

EDIT: Made a trainer sprite of myself. I'd say it looks pretty much exactly like me. Check my profile pic if you want :D

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3716/beverstrainerforwebaz9.png

[Toasty]

watch, on Jul 11 2007, 04:48 AM, said:

That Battle before that rare fantastic uber deity thing was ****ing impossible...
1 badge left :D

You kidding? My guys were all between levels 35 and 40 and it was fairly easy. Dialga was easy for me to catch too.

And I'm not sure, but I might be able to breed a Torchick/Mudkip/Treeko (sp?) if anyone needs one (course I'm still waiting for wifi). I'm looking for any starter except for Charmander, all the advanced gen, and Piplup. I've got a bunch of others (non starters) I can breed as well if anyones looking for something in particular, though I might not have what your looking for.

[gsninja]

I bred at least 10 Chimchars with Blaze Kick and Double Kick. =D

I'm trying to get all the Power items at the prize building near the Battle Tower. They'll help so much once I'm not lazy enough to EV train. =| I'm trying to breed a Timid Chimchar so it can be a Special Sweeper, but no luck yet. I got two Jolly natures. >=O

[Nick Presta]

I can give people Leftovers, Choice * and such.

[My Best Wishes]

Mr.T, on Jul 12 2007, 10:17 AM, said:

You kidding? My guys were all between levels 35 and 40 and it was fairly easy. Dialga was easy for me to catch too.

And I'm not sure, but I might be able to breed a Torchick/Mudkip/Treeko (sp?) if anyone needs one (course I'm still waiting for wifi). I'm looking for any starter except for Charmander, all the advanced gen, and Piplup. I've got a bunch of others (non starters) I can breed as well if anyones looking for something in particular, though I might not have what your looking for.

I had my Infernape, Kadapra, Stararaptor, Bronzor's next form which I caught, Sneasel and some other random thing in Mt. Cornonet.

Spoiler

Where does Mesprit run off to? I caught Uxie and Azelf.

[gsninja]

Spoiler

Mesprit's like the 3 Legendary Dogs. You have to find it in the wild somewhere. :D

I want a Tangela.

[Toasty]

You remember what you had to do to catch Entei and Raikou in G/S/C? Or what you had to do to catch Latios/Latias in R/S? Well you have to do it for Mespirit too.

[Someone Else]

I have caught all 3 spirit Pokemon for a while now. Woo for me.

[Caael]

Haven't been playing pokemon recently because I have better games to play. And order.

[Lemontime]

Caael, on Jul 10 2007, 02:59 AM, said:

Oh, and I have crowned Onix the official coolest pokemon EVER.

INCORRECT!
It's Steelix <3

And yeah, I haven't been playing pokemon lately cause I Cbf.. :D

[Caael]

Lies, I tells ya, LIES!

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~simmers/onix.gif

Coolest, blates

[Split Infinity]

Wobbuffet ftw!

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/Pokemon/PokemonWobbufet.JPG

Most evil Pokemon ever...

[Someone Else]

http://www.myutsu.net/imagens/pokemon/399.jpg

BIDOOF YOU WiiTARDS.

[gsninja]

I just got a shiny Torkoal off the GTS! All I had to trade was my level 19 Dratini. =D

[Caael]

Pah. Torkoal sucks. who wants torkoal when you can have Onix?

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Jul 12 2007, 10:19 AM, said:

BIDOOF YOU WiiTARDS.

Screw bidoof!

MAGIKARP! HIT 'EM WITH A FULL ON SPLASH ATTACK!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/e/e6/129_Magikarp.png

[Split Infinity]

Salamence's first form: Bagon.

Don't forgot the second series which had Larvitar and its evolutions.

[Toasty]

Ah yes, forgot about that one. So in the first gen it was Dratini, then Larvatar, then Bagon, and now that funky weird wide mouthed thiny.

Oh, and I laugh at you 'cuz I edited mah post.

Origional post:

Ever notice how in every generation there's been a rare dragon with three evolutions? In the first and second gen it was Dratini, then in the advanced gen it was Bagon, and now it's this weird thingy whose name I can't remember.

[Split Infinity]

Just edit the original post back into the original post, rulebreaker.

[Caael]

What's the wierd dragon things in D/P?

[Toasty]

Screw you!

So yeah, I'm now on a mission to get all four dragon pokes! And I already have one! So that just leaves Dratini, Larvatar, and D/P's dragon.

[Caael]

And Bagon. Who evolves into Shelgon, and then Salamence.

[Toasty]

Already got that one.

[Caael]

Ah.



Just checked Serebii.net, and there's no Dragon pokemon for D/P.

[Toasty]

Yes there is. It's name is Gible. It evolves into Gabite and then Garchomp.

[My Best Wishes]

Oh so it does evolve twice. What level is it's final evolution?

[Caael]

Oh yeah * slaps head*


Help, guys.

I need to EV train my Sneasel in attack, because it's attack sucks. How do I do this?

[Wiflewood]

Simple, you just have to make it fight pokemon that give points in Attack EVs when you beat em. Heres a list:

Pokemon Name EVs Received Other Received EVs


Abomasnow 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Absol 2 Points --
Anorith 1 Point --
Arbok 2 Points --
Arcanine 2 Points --
Ariados 2 Points --
Armaldo 2 Points --
Azelf 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Bagon 1 Point --
Banette 2 Points --
Beedrill 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Bellsprout 1 Point --
Bibarel 2 Points --
Blaziken 3 Points --
Breloom 2 Points --
Cacturne 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Camerupt 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Carnivine 2 Points --
Carvanha 1 Point --
Chatot 1 Point --
Combusken 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Corpish 1 Point --
Cranidos 1 Point --
Crawdaunt 2 Points --
Croagunk 1 Point --
Croconaw 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Deoxys 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack & Speed)
Dodrio 2 Points --
Doduo 1 Point --
Donphan 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Dragonair 2 Points --
Dragonite 3 Points --
Dratini 1 Point --
Ekans 1 Point --
Electivire 3 Points --
Entei 2 Points 1 Point (HP)
Farfetch'd 1 Point --
Feraligatr 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Flareon 2 Points --
Flygon 1 Point 2 Points (Speed)
Gabite 2 Points --
Gachomp 3 Points --
Gallade 3 Points --
Gible 1 Point --
Goldeen 1 Point --
Granbull 2 Points --
Grotle 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Groudon 3 Points --
Growlithe 1 Point --
Gyarados 2 Points --
Heracross 2 Points --
Hitmonlee 2 Points --
Honchkrow 2 Points --
Huntail 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Infernape 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack & Speed)
Kingdra 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack & Sp. Defense)
Kingler 2 Points --
Krabby 1 Point --
Kricketune 2 Points --
Larvitar 1 Point --
Lucario 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Luxio 2 Points --
Luxray 3 Points --
Mankey 1 Point --
Machamp 3 Points --
Machoke 2 Points --
Machop 1 Point --
Mamoswine 3 Points --
Marshtomp 2 Points --
Mawile 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Mesprit 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack & Sp. Defense)
Mightyena 2 Points --
Monferno 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Mothim 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Mudkip 1 Point --
Muk 1 Point 1 Point (HP)
Nidoking 3 Points --
Nidoran (M) 1 Point --
Nidorino 2 Points --
Nuzleaf 2 Points --
Octillery 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Paras 1 Point --
Parasect 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Piloswine 1 Point 1 Point (HP)
Pinsir 2 Points --
Poochyena 1 Point --
Primape 2 Points --
Pupitar 2 Points --
Qwilfish 1 Point --
Rampardos 2 Points --
Rayquaza 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Regigas 3 Points --
Rhydon 2 Points --
Rhyperior 3 Points --
Riolu 1 Point --
Sableye 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Salamence 3 Points --
Scizor 2 Points --
Scyther 1 Point --
Seaking 2 Points --
Sentret 1 Point --
Seviper 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Sharpedo 2 Points --
Shiftry 3 Points --
Shinx 1 Point --
Shuppet 1 Point --
Snover 1 Point --
Snubull 1 Point --
Solrock 2 Points --
Spinarak 1 Point --
Stantler 1 Point --
Staraptor 3 Points --
Swampert 3 Points --
Swinub 1 Point --
Tauros 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Teddiursa 1 Point --
Totodile 1 Point --
Torterra 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Toxicroak 2 Points --
Trapinch 1 Point --
Turtwig 1 Point --
Tyranitar 3 Points --
Tyrogue 1 Point --
Unown 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Ursaring 2 Points --
Vibrava 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Victreebel 3 Points --
Weavile 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Weepinbell 2 Points --
Yanmega 2 Points --
Zangoose 2 Points --

Heres a quick guide for who is easiest to fight when EV training in attack:

Where: Route 202
Who: Shinx (1)
Comments: Not really a great place, I recommend it only be used because it is
the first place available. And the shinx dont really come along that often
without the pokeradar.

Where: Route 212
Who: Kricketune (2) Bibarel (2)
Comments: It works too, much better than shinx.

Where: Route 208
Who: Bibarel (2) Machop (1)
Comments: I think this route has less variety in pokemon than the one above,
making a bit better. I could be wrong though.

Where: Acuity Lakefront
Who: Snover (1) Machoke (2)
Comments: This is one of my favorite places to train physical sweepers. The
only other pokemon around here all give speed EVs. Namely Sneasel, Meditite,
and Medicham. Handy. See the speed section for exact details.

Where: Lake Valor
Who: Seaking (2) Gyarados (2)
Comments: Higher level wild pokemon, and you need to beat the elite four to get
the super rod to catch these guys with. Otherwise fine.

Also note worthy is Unknown, found in the cave right of Solaceon Town. I didnt
list them with the above because they also give Special Attack EVs. They give 1
attack and 1 special attack.


EDIT: Formatting was messed up :/

heres the original guides from GFAQs:

http://www.gamefaqs....le/925601/45193
http://www.gamefaqs....le/925601/48969


Update on game:

Caught Dialga with second Duskball. Pretty easy. Now in sunnyshore.
current Team with approx. levels (Don't have my DS on me right now)

Golem lv 38
Vespiquen lv 37
Spiritomb lv 37
Sneasel lv 34
Lucario lv 34
Octillery lv 34

If anyones got pokes around this level gimme a shout and I'll battle you :P

You can also give pokemon vitamins like protein, and this will give them 10 Evs for each vitamin given, but you can only give 10 vitamins for wach stat. The max number of EVs is 255 for a stat, but most people give 252, as you need 4 Evs to make 1 point increase in stats, so by giving it 255 you only get as much increase as 252, so its better to spread your EVs like this: 252/252/6.

[Caael]

Thanks Wifle.

The problem with my team is that all my different people are at different levels. Got some almost 50, Sneasel at 30, and baby lucario at level 12

Spoiler

When you fight Galactic on the mountain, do you get to save between each battle? And do you get to save before Dialga? Cuz I really dont wanna have to start over if I end up killing Dialga.

My team at the moment is:

48 Bronzong
47 Infernape
45 Luxray
44 Staraptor
35 Sneasel
12 Riolu

I have the exp share on Riolu and Sneasel first in my party. Once I get Sneasel in the 40's, and Lucario evolved, then i'll go kill Galactic. <3 false swipe.

[gsninja]

Spoiler

You can't save in between the battles, but you do get fully healed after the first one. You can save before Dialga.

Also, Caael, don't EV train Sneasel if it isn't the right nature. Adamant and Jolly are the best natures for it.

[Platinum Sun]

You

Spoiler

get to

save between

Spoiler

the Galactic boss

and Dialga,

Spoiler

but not

between the

Spoiler

Saturn/Mars

double-battle

Spoiler

and the boss.

I say go for it.

Spoiler

Abusing spoiler tags is fun! Even though I got sarnath'd by GSN!

[Caael]

gsninja, on Jul 13 2007, 03:16 PM, said:

Spoiler

You can't save in between the battles, but you do get fully healed after the first one. You can save before Dialga.

Also, Caael, don't EV train Sneasel if it isn't the right nature. Adamant and Jolly are the best natures for it.

Naive. I'm only EV training it because it's attack sucks ( It sometimes cant kill a level 20, and he's at level 36)

[Wiflewood]

Yeah, I found the whole of Mount Coronet pretty easy.

I reckon I'm gonna get a bit of a shock at the Elite 4 though with my team so low-levelled.
Oh well.

Who needs skill when your rich and can buy enough items to fully heal your team after every battle?

[Caael]

I'm wondering what to

Spoiler

use my Master ball on, when I get aroudn to it. I wont use it on Dialga, because everybody has said it's easy to catch. Maybe Heatran or Giratina

When will my Riolu evolve, Dammit! How do you tell somebody's happiness level, because that's how Riolu is supposed to evolve.

[Platinum Sun]

I'd reccomend using

Spoiler

it on Mesprit since it does that annyoing runaway thingy. There's another one that does it after you get the national dex

but I forget what the name is.

There's a poketech app that you can get to check happiness.

Spoiler

App number 6, some girl at Eterna City's Pokemon center gives it to you.

[Split Infinity]

Does anyone know if you can max out your Pokemon's happiness by simply keeping it in your party and not battling?

[Platinum Sun]

It will get happier at a very slow rate if it's not battling based on your steps. Soothe Bell will boost this. I usually just put on a soothe bell and ride up and down cycling road to get like 80 Brazillion steps really fast. (Too bad the pedometer stops at 30 Brazillion...)

[Wiflewood]

I have the best way ever to max out happiness:

1. Put pokemon in 1st spot of party
2. Go to Fuego Ironworks (anytime after getting surf)
3. In Fuego ironworks, there are moving floor pannels which send you moving in the direction they are pointing. In one section of the ironworks, there is a floor pannel which points upwards, with about 7 tiles of walking space above it then a wall. Simply walk down towards it and it'll send you shooting up again.
4. Put something on the down button on your Dpad when you are positioned above this floor tile, and go to bed :P Come back in the morning and you'll have been walking loads, and your pokemon will then be max happiness. I used a stack of coins and put a notepad over the screen so that if the coins fell for some reason it wouldn't hit the screens.

Video instructions here (Not by me)

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=4YRuaSShTR0

Highly recommend this method. Its how I evolved my Riolu.

[Caael]

Where's the iron works?

Riolu evolved, btw.

[Split Infinity]

Sorry Caael, I only have R/S and LG if you were referring to me.