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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 02:27 PM

    I think that having downloadable stafes/trophies/etc. would'nt be pointless. I know alot of people who I'm sure would want that, and, adding that feature would increase the replay value. That's what makes it NOT pointless in my opinion.

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      Posted 17 April 2006 - 05:09 AM

      The trophy collection wasn't really part of the replay value for SSBM, so I don't see why it would be for SSBR. At least for me anyway.

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        Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:16 AM

        It's supposed to be that nostalgic collection thing, at least that's what it was for me.

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          Posted 17 April 2006 - 11:57 AM

          I didn't really view the trophies as important. I never spent ages trying to get one that I didn't have.

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            Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:47 PM

            But the smash trophies are useful. They tell you the srengths and weaknesses of each character. And all I did was use my AR to get all of 'em. :D ;

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              Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:26 PM

              You could have jsut looked it up in the official strategy guide or Gamefaqs. Throphies aren't the best source for those info.

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                Posted 18 April 2006 - 01:27 AM

                I never viewed the trophies to find out the weaknesses and moves of fighters. I found it much more interesting to fight with them and figure out their stats on my own. But I loved looking at my trophies and reading character backgrounds. I used to spend a lot of time trying to get one particular trophy.

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                  Posted 18 April 2006 - 08:15 AM

                  View PostMr.T, on Apr 17 2006, 04:47 PM, said:

                  But the smash trophies are useful. They tell you the srengths and weaknesses of each character. And all I did was use my AR to get all of 'em. -_- ;

                  That's what the internet is for. There really is no absolute reason to collect the trophies other than to 100% the game.

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                    Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:16 AM

                    Golden Legacy said:

                    I'm sure Master Hand will remain in SSB, yes.

                    On an interesting note, there was supposed to be an arena dedicated solely for Fire Emblem, a location called Akanea. It actually can be accessed in the game's Debug mode.


                    If you pick it, it freezes.

                    I think it wasn't included simply because they were being rushed at the end of the devolpment cycle. I excpect it to be in SSBR though.

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                      Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:30 AM

                      I surely hope so -_-
                      And how does the stage looks like? Anyone can post a screenie of that??

                      Oh and BBL whats your username on smashboards, I am there myself to you'll surely regonise me there. ;)

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                        Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:35 AM

                        It doesn't load the stage at all. -_-

                        I'm Lord Knight on Smashboards. That actually makes me a bit more confident in your skill. http://70.85.169.212/3490/19/emo/11.gif

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                          Posted 23 April 2006 - 06:16 AM

                          Okay, on the back of the first super smash bros it talked about each stage having different dangers. I was slightly dissapointed with numer 2 not maintaining that. Do you think they'll be back in all the stages in revolution?

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                            Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:14 PM

                            Some of the stages in SSBM still had 'hazards' such as Corneria which had ships flying by shooting at you. I think this would count as what you call 'dangers'.

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                              Posted 23 April 2006 - 03:43 PM

                              What are you talking about Earthbrand? Every arena in SSBM had 'Dangers'. Just look at Princess Peaches Castle. Bullet Bill anyone? And what about the Ice Climbers level? That was very dangerous what with the camera moving up and down. And so on and so on...

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                                Posted 23 April 2006 - 07:34 PM

                                Yes. It's just that there are 6 deemed "neutral stages" that don't have any at all. Maybe Earthbrand was talking about that.

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                                  Posted 23 April 2006 - 07:40 PM

                                  We needed those 'neutral' stages for matches that really tested player's strength without unwanted interference. Final Destination is perfect for that.

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                                    Posted 24 April 2006 - 02:17 AM

                                    I meant as not "all" the stages having "dangers" (yes as i call them).
                                    But yeah, i see what SOT is saying.

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                                      Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:29 AM

                                      Sea of Time said:

                                      We needed those 'neutral' stages for matches that really tested player's strength without unwanted interference. Final Destination is perfect for that.


                                      Final Destination is horrible for that. It's a stage people pick when they want to chaingrab their opponents to death, or spam lasers with Falco. -_-

                                      A stage on the lines of Dreamland 64 or Yoshi's Story is a bit more fair.

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                                        Posted 24 April 2006 - 08:02 AM

                                        Well, me and my friends always use FD to duke it out and test skills. Battlefield is also a good place for that, even though it is a bit small.

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                                          Posted 24 April 2006 - 11:13 AM

                                          The best arena if you ask me is Hyrule Temple. And there are no dangers there!

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                                            Posted 24 April 2006 - 11:42 AM

                                            Except when your at high % and your opponent is at low you can still easly win by just going down and backthrow your opponent in the oppening. No Hyrule isnt great either, the most "fair" stage is FD but still projectile spammers have an advantage there.

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                                              Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:23 AM

                                              I'm not sure if I like Hyrule Temple with only two people, but it is the best in 4P mode. FD is my favorite and it should definitely be in the next game, maybe without having to unlock it.

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                                                Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:21 AM

                                                I don't really like FD. Too... Normal. I like Great Bay and Big Blue a lot though!

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                                                  Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:21 AM

                                                  Great Bay is cool for two people because the turtle can totally save you! Isn't Big Blue the stage on the super fast cars? I hate that one!

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                                                    Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:43 AM

                                                    They're not "super fast cars", they're F-ZERO VEHICLES!! Haven't you ever played F-Zero GX on the GC? It's the best racing game I've ever played!

                                                    And Big Blue is great 'cause it's so frantic and tricky. Both the Pokemon arenas are good too. But I hate the original Mushroom Kingdom. *shudders*

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                                                      Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:44 AM

                                                      The Pokemon arena is cool, but I can't believe you like Big Blue. When you die on the track, it's just so annoying!

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                                                        Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:48 AM

                                                        It's funny man! I don't get annoyed from video games... Most of the time.

                                                        And Poke Floats is good too. I also like Brinstar Depths. Quite hard to play normaly there. There are 29 battle arenas in Melee. I wonder how many there'll be in the Rev version?

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                                                          Posted 26 April 2006 - 11:54 AM

                                                          So, you basically like the challenging levels. I get that. I hope there will be a lot more stages in SSBR. That would definitely be a bonus.

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                                                            Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:08 PM

                                                            Well hopefully there will be a lot but it'll be difficult. They need to make new stages that aren't too similar to levels from the previous games.

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                                                              Posted 28 April 2006 - 03:11 PM

                                                              I still hope Nintendo allows for downloadable stages/characters over time, in addition to the ones that will already available in the game itself.

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                                                                Posted 28 April 2006 - 11:35 PM

                                                                IMO Hyrule Temple is the best stage for ANY regular battles. Big Blue is another favorite of mine as long as I'm using Kirby. Same with Poke' Floats as BB. Downloadable levels would also be a great addition as well. But if you pay attention, the battlefield level has low gravity. Not sure if you could call that a 'hazard' or not.

                                                                But Nintendo better not call the rev the Wii....that would just be suicide.

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                                                                  Posted 29 April 2006 - 01:35 PM

                                                                  It's a forgone conclusion that the system will be called Wii. There's very little chance of that changing. I would start getting used to it, Toasty, the name is going to stay.

                                                                  However that means the title of this game is going to change. Any ideas?

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                                                                    Posted 29 April 2006 - 02:31 PM

                                                                    Hmmm... Super Smash Bros. Wii? I guess that was the obvious one. What about something like Super Smash Bros. Stars? I'm just making them up as I go along.

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                                                                      Posted 29 April 2006 - 03:28 PM

                                                                      I hate it when they take the name of the system and smack it on the end of the title. Therefore, I would hate Super Smash Bros. Wii. Maybe it could be just a generic SSBM2

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                                                                        Posted 29 April 2006 - 06:17 PM

                                                                        I think it should be called "We with Super Smash Bros."

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                                                                          Posted 29 April 2006 - 06:42 PM

                                                                          Who knows? Mabey it will still be called SSBR. Other than that, I'd have to go with SSBM2.

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                                                                            Posted 29 April 2006 - 09:58 PM

                                                                            It doesn't have to be Wii. It can be a word starting with W, too. Like how DS games were named Double Team, Dual Strike, etc.

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                                                                              Posted 01 May 2006 - 10:57 AM

                                                                              Yeah, but I don't know if that kind of title would fit with a fighting game like SSB. Well, really, the title isn't important, is it? Other than the title, what does the new name Wii offer SSB"R".

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                                                                                Posted 03 May 2006 - 06:09 PM

                                                                                Super Smash Brothers: Battle Royale

                                                                                Super Smash Brothers: Grand Finale

                                                                                Super Smash Brothers: Melee Elite

                                                                                Super Smash Brothers: Melee Supreme

                                                                                Super Smash Brothers: Revolution


                                                                                Just a few titles I've considered before.

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                                                                                  Posted 03 May 2006 - 07:27 PM

                                                                                  Battle Royale sounds pretty cool, IMO.

                                                                                  Super Smash Brothers: Wrath if you want soemthign starting with "w". It doesn't seem too good, but it's a start.

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                                                                                    Posted 03 May 2006 - 08:58 PM

                                                                                    Yeah, the Battle Royale one sounds really cool. Grand Finale-NO, because that would mean the last Super Smash Brothers T_T

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                                                                                      Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:39 AM

                                                                                      Super Smash Bros Mayhem sound the best for me. Atleast we can still call it SSBM then. :P

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                                                                                        Posted 04 May 2006 - 08:01 AM

                                                                                        I like those titles. I prefer Battle Royale, just because it kind of goes with the theme that Melee presented and kind of takes the title to the "next level". That would be very cool.

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                                                                                          Posted 04 May 2006 - 08:55 AM

                                                                                          I prefer Battle Royale to any of the others. And if that was to be the new title, Nintendo know who to thank...

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                                                                                            Posted 05 May 2006 - 07:52 AM

                                                                                            Nothing can really stop them from just calling it Revolution, methinks. As GL seemed to point out. So what if it's the old code name? Still sounds cool to me.

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                                                                                              Posted 05 May 2006 - 02:09 PM

                                                                                              It does, but Revolution seems like a thing of the past now. You can't really keep the title the way it is after you release the console from the same name. Or, at least in my mind you can't.

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                                                                                                Posted 05 May 2006 - 05:02 PM

                                                                                                Good job on the feedback everyone, it's been really interesting to see your reactions and suggestions.

                                                                                                This entire topic has been, technically, purely speculation about the next Super Smash Brothers; with E3 literally just three days away, this topic will soon be closed, and a new topic will be created, with all the new information that Nintendo is bound to reveal.

                                                                                                Or that's just my suggestion. If any of the members or mods have any objections, just post it here or PM me.

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                                                                                                  Posted 05 May 2006 - 05:11 PM

                                                                                                  Nah. Keep it open untill people just start flocking to the new one entirely. Squeeze all the juice you can out of it. But when the new topic is made, we'll all just probably start talking about making tournaments on the net after a while.

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                                                                                                    Posted 05 May 2006 - 05:11 PM

                                                                                                    In a word, why?

                                                                                                    Just rename the topic.

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                                                                                                      Posted 05 May 2006 - 05:53 PM

                                                                                                      The first concept of the topic was such:

                                                                                                      View PostSea_of_Time, on Nov 23 2005, 01:42 PM, said:

                                                                                                      Well, unless you've been living in a cave for the past six months, you know that Nintendo has announced there will be a Super Smash Bros. for the Revolution Wii.

                                                                                                      Awesome!

                                                                                                      What would you like to see and who else is psyched to play some online smash bros! Also, how do you think they can incorporate the new controller into gameplay?


                                                                                                      More or less, this would be a speculation topic. I think if we're gonna talk about the game as it is released and onward, might as well make a new topic in that sense. I think it would be better to make a new topic. I suggest we close this when Wii and the new SSB is released.

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                                                                                                        Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:26 PM

                                                                                                        But only when the Wii and the game are released? If Nintendo reveals new information, screens, videos, etc. at E3, doesn't that warrant its own topic, as speculation from that point on becomes obsolete?

                                                                                                        Just my own suggestion and thoughts.

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                                                                                                          Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:06 PM

                                                                                                          Nah, we'll just discuss it here till the game is out. Whoever makes the topic should edit the first post daily for people who are setting up tournaments that day so you know who is making a tournament (duh) and you can join one or something. People would just PM the person, and the person would update. It would have to be someone who's on daily though, like me unless I'm grounded :blink: . That would be the only requirement. I'm on as soon as I get home ( about 3:00 in US pacific time ). Anyone else?

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                                                                                                            Posted 05 May 2006 - 10:31 PM

                                                                                                            View PostGolden Legacy, on May 5 2006, 05:26 PM, said:

                                                                                                            But only when the Wii and the game are released? If Nintendo reveals new information, screens, videos, etc. at E3, doesn't that warrant its own topic, as speculation from that point on becomes obsolete?

                                                                                                            Just my own suggestion and thoughts.


                                                                                                            Touché. I suppose we can make changes when E3 pops up.

                                                                                                            Toasty, that's if any of us get the Wii and SSB..W...

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                                                                                                              Posted 05 May 2006 - 10:34 PM

                                                                                                              I think a mod should do it.

                                                                                                              Why the hell am I posting here, anyway? I don't own any SSB games! :blink:

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                                                                                                                Posted 06 May 2006 - 04:44 AM

                                                                                                                You WD are a crazy man. SSBM may be THE best game I've ever played. It's got the best replay value of any game I've played. You really should try it out somewhere!

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                                                                                                                  Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                  I actually have. I'm just not lucky like you beezies to have parents that will buy me a console.

                                                                                                                  In other words, I don't have a GameCube!

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                                                                                                                    Posted 06 May 2006 - 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                    I can always just edit the first post. I don't see why we have to make a whole new topic for the same game just because the first 31 pages of this topic were speculation.

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                                                                                                                      Posted 07 May 2006 - 03:00 AM

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                                                                                                                      You WD are a crazy man. SSBM may be THE best game I've ever played. It's got the best replay value of any game I've played. You really should try it out somewhere!


                                                                                                                      Poor guy... I feel your pain.

                                                                                                                      Anyway, I don't think there is any need to make a new topic. It's still about the same game right? We'll just have a little more info about it.

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                                                                                                                        Posted 07 May 2006 - 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                        Yeah, guess your right.

                                                                                                                        And WD, the only way I get consols is by negotiating with my parents. Like when I wanted the GC for Christmas a few years back, I just asked that if I kept my room clean for the 3 months (if cleaned, it's usually dirty after 3 days) leading up to it, if they would buy me it.Works every time for me. :rolleyes: I can usually even get them to cut some slack, but that's just cause I know the right things to say at the right time. And these people are not usually easy to negotiate with.

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                                                                                                                          Posted 07 May 2006 - 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                          Wind Dude, a price drop for the GameCube is expected fairly soon (to about $79.99, possibly) so that might be the ideal time.

                                                                                                                          But of course, if you plan on getting a Nintendo Wii at launch, then saving up is probably the better option. Besides, it's backward compatible. I guess it all depends on how long you're willing to wait.

                                                                                                                          Now then, back to the next Super Smash Brothers.

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                                                                                                                            Posted 07 May 2006 - 08:13 PM

                                                                                                                            I'm-a gonna wait for the Wii.

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                                                                                                                              Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                              Yeah, so, can't wait for tommorow! This is one of the few games I really want to get a look at. Lookin' forward to seeing Isaac slashing around with his Sol Blade... That'll prove to everyone that I was right at thinking he will be in SSBR! ;)

                                                                                                                              Wow, what an unneeded post. :rolleyes:

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                                                                                                                                Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:21 AM

                                                                                                                                I would just wait for the Wii if I were you, WD. Just because the GC is having a price drop doesn't mean you should get it. The new system on the horizon does the same stuff as the GC and a lot more.

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                                                                                                                                  Posted 08 May 2006 - 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                                  Yeah, me too.

                                                                                                                                  Anyway, I always sucked at SSBM when I was playing that. But then again, I never had any other time practicing, hee hee.

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                                                                                                                                    Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                    I suck at it and I own the game! All my friends tell me it's really sad. But I practice hard, I really do!

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                                                                                                                                      Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:33 PM

                                                                                                                                      When I first got my Cube, I was playing it 8 hours a day for two weeks (mostly super Smash Bros.). Not only that, but I had played it before. Mabey that's why I can take on 2 level 9's. :rolleyes:

                                                                                                                                      By the way, my first favorite character was kirby. I kicked ace with him. Now, I use Roy, and now I'm kickin' more ace than you could imagine.

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                                                                                                                                        Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                                        I liked Link and that little kid from Earthbound. Pikachu wasn't bad either.

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                                                                                                                                          Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:26 PM

                                                                                                                                          I P-P-P-Owned my brother with Pichu in a stamina mode match, for the record.

                                                                                                                                          Since it's getting close to its unveiling, I'm wonmdering what other special match styles are gonna be available, taking the controller and name "Wii" into consideration.

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 09 May 2006 - 08:18 PM

                                                                                                                                            No Smash Bros at E3! Oh my!

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                                                                                                                                              Posted 10 May 2006 - 12:41 AM

                                                                                                                                              Well this just sucks... :rolleyes: .....but mabey we'll here more about it in the near future? Thoughts anyone?

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                                                                                                                                                Posted 10 May 2006 - 01:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                They didn't show Pokemon Diamond and Pearl either so I'm expecting to see these games today. It's a bad sign if they don't show Smash Bros.

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                                                                                                                                                  Posted 10 May 2006 - 01:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                  They'll end up screwing themselves if they don't. Smash Bros. was one of their best sellers. To not announce this game is like throwing away a million bucks. Sure, if they announce it after E3, it'll still sell, but not nearly as much.

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                                                                                                                                                    Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I still think they're pushing their biggest franchises and the games that make the best use of the Wii controller. I'm positive we will see a SSB3 eventually.

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                                                                                                                                                      Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Well so many people expect it that they'll have to make it.

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                                                                                                                                                        Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                        They did say at E3 last year that this game would be released, so they can't back out on that now. Plus, getting rid of that franchise would be suicide for Nintendo. It's just that good.

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                                                                                                                                                          Posted 10 May 2006 - 12:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                          There is no way there going to get rid of the franchise. Meele is the best selling GC game! But I still don't understand HOW there is nothing on SSBR. I mean, is it so early in making that they can't even show a trailer? And if it is so early in the making, then why say all year long it'll be a Wii launch title?

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                                                                                                                                                            Posted 10 May 2006 - 04:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                            SSB3 will show up eventually. I'm sure of it. I'm also positive that it'll be a launch title.

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                                                                                                                                                              Posted 10 May 2006 - 07:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Actually, I'm starting to have my doubts now.

                                                                                                                                                              The reasons are as follows:
                                                                                                                                                              - When Nintendo announced that the next SSB would be ready by launch, there was little to no development of that game at the time. In fact, the director of the Super Smash Brothers games (whose name I can't quite remember now) didn't even know about the title until it was announced at the E3 2005 conference. Iwata later approached him and asked him if he would be willing to work.

                                                                                                                                                              - It was mentioned sometime ago that Nintendo would need to enlist outside help from another game company if it was to be able to meet the Revolution's launch.

                                                                                                                                                              - It's not present at E3 on the show floor, nor was it even mentioned during the conference (not even a press release)

                                                                                                                                                              - The new Super Mario title and Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess are now two of the system's major launch titles. Launching the next SSB at the same time would simply compete with those titles.

                                                                                                                                                              My expectations: Either Nintendo is waiting until later this year (Tokyo Game Show? A Spaceworld?) to reveal SSB or the title just isn't ready yet. I expect Mario and Zelda to be the killer launch titles for 2006, and to follow in 2007 are Metroid Prime 3 and SSB.

                                                                                                                                                              EDIT: Ahh. Apparently Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is a launch title for Wii too!
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                                                                                                                                                              Hmm. Curious.

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                                                                                                                                                                Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Yeah. If you want to know all the launch titles, go to the E3 2006 thread, last page. I posted a link there that has a ton of info on the Wii. Project H.A.M.M.E.R., MP:3, SM:G, LoZ:TP,and Wii sports are among them. I'm sure there are more floating around somewhere.



                                                                                                                                                                Here's the link: http://wii.nintendo.com/home.html

                                                                                                                                                                Just click on software. Those are the confirmed launch titles. I'm sure there'll be more.



                                                                                                                                                                As for SSB, I still think that it'll be a launch title, but if it isn't, it will be released at least by this December if it is made.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 10 May 2006 - 11:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  You guys all phail. xD

                                                                                                                                                                  Smash Bros Brawl was announced this evening, and it's going to be an online game of 2007, no longer launch. More single player, and you also get to play as Pit from Kid Icaruss, Suitless Samus( from Metroid Zero mission), Meta Knight from Kirby, and Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid. Yeah, Kojima actually begged them to throw in Snake, that's just so awesome. Now they're talking with other third parties as well( namely Sega). It's widescreen too. Screens are below.





























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                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 11 May 2006 - 04:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    OMFG THIS IS AWESOME ****! :D

                                                                                                                                                                    Zero Suit Samus... Whoa who expected that.

                                                                                                                                                                    Solid Snake... WTF!?? O.o

                                                                                                                                                                    LINK LOOKS AWESOME TP STYLAH! :)

                                                                                                                                                                    WHOOO SUPER MOVES!

                                                                                                                                                                    PIT IS AWESOME

                                                                                                                                                                    Wario's got a fart grenade move! <_<

                                                                                                                                                                    This is quitte satisfying, but I wonder what happend to chars like Fox, DK and Zelda?

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                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 11 May 2006 - 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Hm, I don't think that they could fit every damn character in the video.

                                                                                                                                                                      The part with Snake in the video was funny. I actually understood it, even though I'm not very savvy with Metal Gear Solid.

                                                                                                                                                                      Zero Suit Samus sounds a bit... funny. XD Then again, Suitless Samus does too.

                                                                                                                                                                      I have no idea who Pit is.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 May 2006 - 09:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        He's in a game called 'Kid Icarus' for the NES. It was really old and I'm surprised they put him in.
                                                                                                                                                                        In my opinion, Super Smash Bros. Bar Brawl would have been a better, though unaccurate, title. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 11 May 2006 - 10:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          *bangs head against keyboard*

                                                                                                                                                                          I can't see the video because I can't get past the stupid firewall at my school! Can someone tell me what the hell is going on?

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                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 11 May 2006 - 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I can't look at the video either, but I don't really care. I saw this on Planet GameCube about half an hour ago. What a dissapointment...

                                                                                                                                                                            I mean, Wario, Meta Knight... Cool!! Those are two of the few characters that I thought HAD to be added. I also understand why they put Pit(though he is a crap character). Shigeru said he's making a Kid Icarus for Wii. Samus without her suit... I don't like it. That metal has become her SKIN!! Though I guess that isn't too bas if she was armorless in Zero Mission. And I assure you, Fox, DK and Zelda, all of which are very well known and popular characters, will be in this game. But Solid Snake... The worst thing that could have happened to the Smash Bros. franchise... Adding other companies characters. This isn't what the first SSB and Meele were about! This game is just a marketing ploy now, also made to make ties with other companies better for Nintendo! And there is no way Konami asked Nintendo to put their character in, it was the other way round! Am I the only one who noticed Konami doesn't like Ninty? They very rarely make games for Nintendo consoles. Oh, and I'll bet my life that Sonic and Tails are playable too. This is very low of you Nintendo...

                                                                                                                                                                            And if they make that Nintendog I saw on a screenshot playable...

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                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 11 May 2006 - 01:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I was surprised when Solid Snake was put in. Then again he did begin life on a Nintendo console.
                                                                                                                                                                              As for Sonic and Tails... it could happen. It would have be unmentionable a few years ago, but people should really move on.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 11 May 2006 - 01:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Personally, I think you're whining about nothing, Aqua.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 11 May 2006 - 01:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  The original Metal Gear games were made by Nintendo.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Snake deserves to be in the game, and I find it rather funny. It's a good marketing ploy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 11 May 2006 - 01:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree with WD. Is more characters really a huge problem? They'll appeal to people who've got the other games, which will encourage them to buy a Wii. Alright Solid Snake isn't a Nintendo only character but that just means he'll interest a different crowd to buy the game. I know someone will come back with, 'But it's only Nintendo characters who can be in it!'

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 11 May 2006 - 01:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I thought it was hilarious when Snake was being "recruited" to SSBB.

                                                                                                                                                                                      "Oh, that Nintendo thing..."

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 May 2006 - 02:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I haven't seen the video but from what I read it sounded pretty funny.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 11 May 2006 - 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Trailer

                                                                                                                                                                                          This trailer is amazing. Seriously.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 11 May 2006 - 04:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Yeah. Can't wait 'till it's out!! By the way, anyone here registered to nintendo nsider forums?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 11 May 2006 - 05:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              BLL hit it right on the head. Metal Gear, before Solid, was all about Nintendo.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Kojima begged to have snake put in, as the head of the development studio. Nintendo consoles aren't profitable for Konami, so making a Wii or Gamecube game would be a bad move business wise, but that doesn't mean Kojima doesn't want to. So, he did the next best thing. He tried to get his character onto a Nintendo console without Konami, and he almost did it with Melee, but he couldn't, he came in too late, so he convinced Silicon Knights to make a gamecube port of Metal Gear Solid. And this time, he approached the SSB team early enough that they could add Snake.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 11 May 2006 - 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I know they didn't show them, but who knows, mabey Isaac and Felix are in too. I guess we'll just have to wait till theyopen the characters link on SSBDojo, or until the game comes out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 11 May 2006 - 07:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am not confident taht GS will be in SSBB. What I am confident in is that all the other characters got makeovers even if it was just a tiny polish. Did you see that authentic leather on Mario? Fox should be wearing his Assault armour and all. I think that the new capabilities of this game should be influenced by new wardrobe changes. That Metal Gear Solid stuff was genius, for the record.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Closing comment: Wario seriously needs to lighten the bean load.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 11 May 2006 - 09:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Haha. That was hilarious, but more so was the scene with Snake, I agree. Interesting how Kojima wanted the character to be in the game...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    That trailer was amazing. The graphics, the overall presentation. Phenomonal, and the music too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    What concerns me, however, is that the director stated that he would prefer the controls of the GameCube game, meaning that support of the Wii controller is, unusually, unlikely... at least for now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 11 May 2006 - 09:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      There's always the classic Wii controller, isn't there?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      EDIT: I saw a picture of it recently, it didn't look too good. GameCube controller was a bit better appearance-wise. This one looks like a bar of soap.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 May 2006 - 09:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, I think SSBB will be more about classic button-pushing (avoiding the term button-mashing), rather than revolutionizing video games.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time for the DS was the same way. So far, I haven't seen a single use of the Touch Screen in the game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 11 May 2006 - 11:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          The new Wii controller looks the same asit did before. It just has a few hole in it now for the spaker/microphone.



                                                                                                                                                                                                          Here's another link. This one has interviews on video. http://e3.nintendo.com/e3media.html



                                                                                                                                                                                                          And here's nintendo's official E3 site. I got all the links I have here thanks to a nintendo E-mail.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow, Solid Snake? Risky move, I must say, but cool. It's weird that some people don't remember that the original MG games were for the Nintendo hardware. As long as its not the old Snake who supposedly kills himself from MGS4, I'm cool. I like the young, spry one better anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Toasty, the controller MD is talking about is the one next to the Wiimote:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              And it really DOES look like a bar of soap. It looks very uncomftorable.
                                                                                                                                                                                                              But what about that Zapper gun thingy huh? Looks good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              And I know the original MGS was on a Nintendo console, but still... I won't repeat myself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I realize that Snake isn't really like any other Nintendo character. But when the game comes out, maybe it will be time for a new mature character in these games.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 12 May 2006 - 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Omg, I saw that video of SSBB about 20 times, dude it is so cool. I love how Samus takes off her suit, AWESOME, and pits bow becomes swords, and links triforce attack.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 12 May 2006 - 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I see what you mean Aqua. And does anyone remember this? I can vagely remember me saying that the guns at the end of that clip were gonna be real. And I was right. Take that blink.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 12 May 2006 - 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Samus in her zero mission suit. Is Nintendo going T for teens on us?!?! Next we'll have Peach in DoA Xtreme?!?! OH NOES!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 12 May 2006 - 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can't wait till the Wii comes out. And same with SSBB. Who else here want's to get a piece of that gun?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So what, Samus' Suit clings tight to her butt and boobs, real biggy. <_<

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          SSB was always T anyways.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I actually like the Wii's gamepad controller, it looks retro! It doesn't look any more uncomfortable than the original GBA.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I just found a great interview. I havn't read all of it, but it seems pretty informative. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Is it okay for me to think that the theme for SSBB is... humorous?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 May 2006 - 12:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gladiator + Smash Bros = SSBB theme. It's epic, but it fits with the original commercial at the same time. xD

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 May 2006 - 12:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  For some reason, I can't stop listenting to it! It's catchy and unique...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 13 May 2006 - 01:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The song is great. It's catchy, and fits the theme very well. But the trailer is even better since it has figting and the song. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 May 2006 - 04:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can't look at the movie. :( Takes too long to load. But where can I just hear the theme, without the movie? PLEASE TELL ME!! Ahem...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And yeah, Solid Snake is a very humorous character. :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        There's a music link on the same site. And get on over to the battle game Aqua. PLEASE.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostSea_of_Time, on Nov 24 2005, 06:42 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, unless you've been living in a cave for the past six months, you know that Nintendo has announced there will be a Super Smash Bros. for the Wii.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Awesome!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          What would you like to see and who else is psyched to play some online smash bros! Also, how do you think they can incorporate the new controller into gameplay?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I've been living in a cave :P :( :silence:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As for the controls, I don't think they'll be strongly incorperated. Just because it would be easier to use the classic controls. But mabey we will point and click at items?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ninty said already that the game wouldn't use the motion sensing , but would use the GC controller or that new soap thing for the Wii. No inovation there, but never mind.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Probably for the better anyway. It would take away from the gameplay if it used motion sensing (unless it was in first person), because It would be very difficult to control.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 May 2006 - 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm glad that Nintendo decided to rest on their laurels on at least one thing, the control scheme. Now, when you play online, you will not be playing against born-again rookies, learning how to play with the Wii-mote, but seasoned veterans who have trained their mettle on SSB and SSBM. I am totally ready for this game, and its online play. Bring it on, any GSSF member who wants to take me out. :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 13 May 2006 - 11:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Time for me to sharpen my blade, then. I've noticed how they've added a "Brawl" system (my name for it) when they get all fiery adn do a final attack thing. Amazing addition.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 May 2006 - 01:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That appears to activiate when a character picks up a certain item, which looks like the general Super Smash Bros. logo.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Link's special attack, with the numerous sword attacks and the triforce, looks amazing. I can't stop watching that part.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 May 2006 - 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm listening to the theme song at the moment for the third time in a row. It's awesome! So different than Melee! Which is good if you ask me. I wish I could watch the movie... I'll have to ask a friend to download it for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 May 2006 - 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          When this game comes out in a year and a half, I'll challenge anyone who wants to. :P I havn't gotten to play against any good human players in a while. It's much more challenging to fight a person rather than a computer, since a computer usually has a pattern that you can get used to, and counter easily after a while, where as a human doesn't.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 May 2006 - 07:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Watch it on YouTube or through Google Video.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 May 2006 - 09:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The movie is quite funny. You'll enjoy it, Aqua. You think there's gonna be any communication between players via headset/chat online?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 14 May 2006 - 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Now that Solid Snake is in the game, there is no reason why Geno (who is owned by Square-Enix) should not be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                No reason at all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 14 May 2006 - 08:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just dropped in this fanboy topic to say: Yay, Solid Snake! Will we get to snap necks and use FAMAS rifles to spray enemies down while using Stealth Camoflage?! Maybe. Will the Ninja make a secret playable appearance in the future games? Maybe. Am i gonna get this game now that Solid Snake is in it? Probably not, but that's beside the point.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 17 May 2006 - 04:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I turns out that EB Games will have it on the first of November for $60. And I thought Nintendo said they could make their games for less money....



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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 17 May 2006 - 04:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That's disappointing, :blink:, I would of expected them to keep their word (but don't give up hope as the price could definitely drop).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 17 May 2006 - 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's a next-gen console game, a popular one at that. You can expect it to be at least $50-$60.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 17 May 2006 - 08:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nintendo stated that their games would cost no more than 50$ and I'm going to believe them until proven wrong. Also, SSBB isn't being released in November! It's coming out about 6 or 7 months after the Wii. That just shows you can't believe what everyone says, including EB Games.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yeah, I wouldn't believe EB Games on the launch date, but the price could be true. Nintendo does have some 'wiggle room' like I've said before as far as price is concerned, simply because the other two consoles are so much more expensive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now that Solid Snake is in the game, there is no reason why Geno (who is owned by Square-Enix) should not be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No reason at all.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              They already have the characters that will be added.... which sucks a bit. No GS chars!! ;)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wario
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 18 May 2006 - 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm sure that list will be added to. For the moment I'm just glad Wario's in it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 18 May 2006 - 12:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, but the video i.... disturbing. Warios fart attack will be a charge attack, I know that. The list probably will be added too, as it doesn't have half the characters it should. 5 new characters is not enough. they should include more... known characters. Meta knight I have to admit, all I know is he's from Kirby. We all know that there will be new pokemon in there, no doubts there. And in the IGN video, there was a Nintendog that popped up on screen. This probably an item or something, but if anybody know anything else about this random dog, plase tell.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 18 May 2006 - 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My guess is that it's an item you pick up. Not quite sure what it does. Someone suggested that it blocked the other players screen, but since there's only one screen...



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Although it would be awesome for SSBB to come out fully completed and not rushed in November, I'm sure we all know it's not likely ;) . As for the price, Nintendo did say their games would be cheaper than this, but it will be a very popular game since it's in a very popular series. But we can't be sure that this will be the sell price just yet. There's always that bit of "wiggle room".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 18 May 2006 - 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'd like to bring up the point that Wii is already launching with Zelda and Metroid. Adding in another powerful franchise at launch would do wonders, but only for the short-term. Nintendo should, and will, have it for a 2007 release, to ensure the best quality and also to raise hype for the game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 18 May 2006 - 03:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I predict that after a while, hype will die down for SSBB. BUT, when it gets close to the release date, hype will rise substantially.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 18 May 2006 - 03:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          As with many games. The same occurred with Twilight Princess; there was tremendous hype for it when it was first unveiled at E3 2004, things slowly died down, especially when Nintendo announced the delay, but ever since it's been announced as a launch title, and using the Wii controller, people are getting excited again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          To go back on topic, do you think that the inclusion of Snake is a sign that Nintendo is negotiating for other third party characters, or was it done just as a favor to Hideo Kojima?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 18 May 2006 - 04:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They NEED to put Sonic in. Maybe not for this SSB (this might be the last SSB game, actually), but he NEEDS to be put in!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I found this to be an interesting read:
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 18 May 2006 - 06:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              In answer to your question, GL, I think they did it as a favor to Kojima. He wanted Snake in the game and I think Nintendo gave him what he had been looking for. However, now that Snake is in, there is a legit case for Sonic since third-party characters seem to be in.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 18 May 2006 - 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Solid Snake looks to me like another Captain Falcon. He just doesn't fit. Kojima must've been pretty persuasive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 19 May 2006 - 02:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think Snake fits in quite well, since this game has a lot of different character styles. Also, all the new characters shown will have new fighting styles. Snake will use bombs and his trusty cardboard box.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Nintendo said they are negotiating with other 3rd party companies about adding their characters. I think there is no question about Sonic being in the game and I also think Tails will be included. Other possible characters are Pacman and Megaman. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't like to see even one more third party character. It wouldn't be so bad if only Snake was there, because he would be like a guest character, sort of like Link in Soul Calibur 2.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you ask me there is NO WAY this is gonna be the last SSB game. It will be the only one for the Wii, but when the next console comes out they will make another one. It is just too popular, fans would kill Ninty if they decided to forget about this franchise and it's also a VERY high selling game. Melee is the best selling game on the GC!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 19 May 2006 - 05:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Did any of you read the link I posted?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 19 May 2006 - 06:34 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Melee is the best selling game on the GC!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Correction, was the best selling. It isn't now. It was when the game came out, but now it's dated. I think the best-selling game at th moment is Resi evil 4, I think. But it aint SSBM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 19 May 2006 - 07:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostIvan is my name, on May 19 2006, 08:34 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Correction, was the best selling. It isn't now. It was when the game came out, but now it's dated. I think the best-selling game at th moment is Resi evil 4, I think. But it aint SSBM.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It is the top grossing GC game

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        AKA it has sold the most copies out of any game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 19 May 2006 - 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostAquamarine, on May 19 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nintendo said they are negotiating with other 3rd party companies about adding their characters. I think there is no question about Sonic being in the game and I also think Tails will be included. Other possible characters are Pacman and Megaman. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't like to see even one more third party character. It wouldn't be so bad if only Snake was there, because he would be like a guest character, sort of like Link in Soul Calibur 2.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          In my opinion, Third Party characters will be a good and bad thing. Good as they'll have new characters with new abilities, and they'll be bringing in more people. Bad as it'll be less of a Nintendo game and more general.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 19 May 2006 - 09:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They should stick to nintendo characters. If they want 3rd party characters, then make a super smash 3rd party bros. SSB has always been just ninty. It would be nice to carry on the... tradition. But as Me111 said, it would make SSB a more general game if 3rd party characters were put in. Super smash bros has always been unique. When do you fight a giant hand, other that super smash bros, and maybe lylat wars? it should stay like this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 19 May 2006 - 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah, Super Smash Brothers fans unite!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ahem! Anyway, what I found the most shocking news was to find out is that Snake is in it. I just wish they would put in Bomberman, Stafy (from the Legend of Stafy series or also known as Densetsu No Stafy), Mallow, Geno, Diddy Kong, Marill (from Pokemon) and Dixe Kong. Hopefully they at least choose one of the characters I listed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Another thing that's kind of sad to hear is that the game might not come out as a launch title anymore. I don't personal mind it much but I just hope they fix up the graphics up a bit more.(I mean really! Kirby didn't get much of a face lift compared to the other characters and I found his character model really low tech. See his arms if you want to know my pain. And Link's face looks terrible! Face lift for Link coming right up! Yeah, I am a Kirby and Link fan.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My hopes for this game includes being able to customize battles. Examples are like what kind of HP amount should be given to the characters or defeat this person before the others do. I also want more Event matches and I also want a even bigger adventure mode. I also hope they keep the old Melee characters as well(especially Yoshi, he rocks!)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yep, I'm done.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 19 May 2006 - 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostIvan is my name, on May 19 2006, 08:34 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Correction, was the best selling. It isn't now. It was when the game came out, but now it's dated. I think the best-selling game at th moment is Resi evil 4, I think. But it aint SSBM.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Super Smash Brothers Melee is the highest selling game of GameCube, period. It has sold well over four million copies worldwide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Resident Evil 4 sold reasonably well, and could be considered a hit, especially considering that the GameCube is supposedly a "kid's console". I recall sometime last year that it had sold 1.23 milion units worldwide (something like 600,000 in North America, 350,000 in Europe, and 200,000 in Japan, which doesn't quite add up, but it's close). So it's certainly sold through more, but probably hasn't broken two million units.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Simply put, Super Smash Brothers is now one of Nintendo's most powerful franchises. It's worth noting, however, that Sakurai mentioned that he was only barely persuaded to return to work on Brawl. He has mentioned that it will be the last game in the series he will work on, and would rather work in his new studio.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 19 May 2006 - 05:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That's why I encourage you to read this, dammit! ;)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It was stated in the story that if Sakurai (the big daddy of SSB) doesn't work on the games, many of the big dudes in Nintendo feel SSB won't be the same!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 19 May 2006 - 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, I read that. I really hope Sakurai keeps working on Super Smash Brothers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Link looks so much more detailed now than in Melee. He looks exactly like how he looks like in Twilight Princess. I just think his Triforce move is super crazy. And Mario's and Samus' scary powerful moves...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, I read that article. But I'm pretty sure he said that after he made SSBM, yet he made SSBB. So IMO, there's a 50-50 chance that the franchise will continue.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I read that article a few days ago, before WD posted the link. It's very interesting to see to what lengths Nintendo will go just for one game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I read somewhere about a month ago that SSBM still sells really, really well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Diddy Kong is a must have, but Marill? There are some much better and even more popular Pokes that could be added. Like Blaziken. Or Groudon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I too hope Sakurai keeps working on SSB games, but even if he doesn't, Ninty WILL make another game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, and I've finally seen the movie. It's excellent up until Wario's Nuclear-Fart attack. Mario's Super FireBall is the best item attack of the ones I've seen. They showed Mario's, Link's, Kirby's and Samus's. Link's looks like it will hit only one character, whilst Mario's and Samus's will attack everyone on the playing field.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 20 May 2006 - 09:18 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "Diddy Kong is a must have, but Marill? There are some much better and even more popular Pokes that could be added. Like Blaziken. Or Groudon."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why not? Marill is really popular AND the Ruby and Sapphire Pokemon weren't that popular according to other Pokemon fans. I think it was because of their character designs? Marill has a better chance than Ruby and Sapphire Pokemon in my opinion. But yeah, I do agree that Diddy is a must have.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "Oh, and I've finally seen the movie. It's excellent up until Wario's Nuclear-Fart attack. Mario's Super FireBall is the best item attack of the ones I've seen. They showed Mario's, Link's, Kirby's and Samus's. Link's looks like it will hit only one character, whilst Mario's and Samus's will attack everyone on the playing field."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, I also think that Melee Item is a excellent idea for this version. Mario's Firball and Links Rapid Slashes are really amazing. I especialy liked Kirby's Move. Mario got Burned!!! The only thing I hated was Wario's retard fart. They shouldn't include that move for the game as his move set. That was a dumb idea! Whats next? Nick character because they fart?!? Hopefully we will never see Wario's fart ever again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So does anyone think there is a good chance the Melee characters will return?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 20 May 2006 - 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As far as Melee characters are concerned, I can all but guarantee that they will be back. It's basically an upside pyramid effect as far as the characters are concerned. They add on to the bases of the previous games, not getting rid of the ones that were in the last games. We will see the SSBM characters in the next game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 20 May 2006 - 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's good to hear. I would have been devasted if Yoshi wasn't in it anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostVermin Manaic, on May 20 2006, 05:18 PM, said:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Diddy Kong is a must have, but Marill? There are some much better and even more popular Pokes that could be added. Like Blaziken. Or Groudon."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Why not? Marill is really popular AND the Ruby and Sapphire Pokemon weren't that popular according to other Pokemon fans. I think it was because of their character designs? Marill has a better chance than Ruby and Sapphire Pokemon in my opinion. But yeah, I do agree that Diddy is a must have.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Oh, and I've finally seen the movie. It's excellent up until Wario's Nuclear-Fart attack. Mario's Super FireBall is the best item attack of the ones I've seen. They showed Mario's, Link's, Kirby's and Samus's. Link's looks like it will hit only one character, whilst Mario's and Samus's will attack everyone on the playing field."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yeah, I also think that Melee Item is a excellent idea for this version. Mario's Firball and Links Rapid Slashes are really amazing. I especialy liked Kirby's Move. Mario got Burned!!! The only thing I hated was Wario's retard fart. They shouldn't include that move for the game as his move set. That was a dumb idea! Whats next? Nick character because they fart?!? Hopefully we will never see Wario's fart ever again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So does anyone think there is a good chance the Melee characters will return?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Whoa you still have like 8 post and I already love you for saying Diddy is a must have. :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Marill wouldn't be really a good addition because he just has nothing to add into the game and he's just a random Pokemon. The only Pokemon they should include is Blaziken since he atleast has fighting style which suits SSBB.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If they did remove mayor characters of the prev Smash I would be really disapointed. I wouldn't mind if they got ridd of Pichu, Doc, Young Link and those sorta characters but what would really ruin it is removing characters like Donkey Kong or Yoshi. But I didn't mind replacing them or making unique movesets for them altough that would be kinda hard.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 20 May 2006 - 03:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also, Nintendo would prefer having at least one character represent a major franchise. For example, they can afford to not include Dr. Mario or Pichu, because they have plenty of other Mario and Pokemon characters. But removing, say, Captain Falcon would mean that there is no character from the F-Zero series, removing Donkey Kong would mean the same thing, etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 20 May 2006 - 06:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ...Unless they add Diddy Kong, but he's not as much of a celeb. as Donkey Kong. I wouldn't mind them getting rid of all of the new SSBM guys 'cept Gannondorf, Falco, Zelda, Marth, & Roy. The others (unless I missed any) either aren't that great of fighters *coughpichucough*, or they aren't very important 'idolistic' characters like Marth or Roy, they're the only FE characters in the game.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Anyone want Cloud?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 20 May 2006 - 06:55 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Marill wouldn't be really a good addition because he just has nothing to add into the game and he's just a random Pokemon. The only Pokemon they should include is Blaziken since he atleast has fighting style which suits SSBB."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The reason I suggested Marill was because I think he is great and powerful Pokemon (It's true! I wiped out the elite four with him) AND we need a water type attacker. I mean we already have enough Fire hitting and Thunder smacking characters on the game. We need more water base attackers. I don't mind if Marill doesn't get to be a playable character as long as a character with water based attacks gets in. Hopefully they at least still keep him as a Pokemon that comes out of the PokeBall.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Whoa you still have like 8 post and I already love you for saying Diddy is a must have."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, I too also like Diddy. He was and still is one of my favorite DK characters along side of Tiny and Dixie Kong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 20 May 2006 - 08:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, as far as the Poke' Balls go (if they still include them), they will either 1) Keep the old ones and add new ones; 2) Toss the old ones and put new ones in; or 3) Not have any Poke' Balls at all. And I doubt they will put Marill in as a playable character. I also don't really care much about if there are not enough watever afinity fighters, I just want a couple GS characters in there, along with some worthy 3rd party characters, and to keep all of the characters except (see previous post of mine).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 20 May 2006 - 10:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostMr.T, on May 21 2006, 01:01 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone want Cloud?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It would be pretty cool, but I think they probably wouldn't. FF7 came just after Square stopped making games for Nintendo. Then again, now that they're all friends again...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 20 May 2006 - 10:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I hardly know anything about FF, but by the sound of it, it sounds like cloud would be awesome to have in a game like ths.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Old characters they should be thrown out are Doctor Mario first of all, then Pichu, Roy and maybe Falco. I didn't say Peach or Jigglypuff even though they are cr!p characters because they have unique fighting styles. Young Link is too important and popular to remove, as is Ganondorf. Falco isn't well known enough to be in the game and neither is Roy. Doctor Mario MUST be removed, since Luigi has simillar attacks to Mario and we don't need another Mario copy-cat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I wish they added Ridley, I really do. He would be awesome! And Black Shadow(F-Zero), Wolf(StarFox) and Olimar(Pikmin) should all be there. Oh, yeah, and Isaac of course.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Before E3 came I thought the two characters they must put in are Wario and Diddy. I love both of them and they are very popular.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Please, everyone, stop worrying about whether or not DK and Yoshi are gonna be included! They will, they are some of Nintendo's most important characters, end of story.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yeah I know about DK and Yoshi, they'll stay but they where just examples.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The one fighter I really worry about is Peach. Man she's a godness in SSBM. It would be a waste to lose a character as unique as her.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Still I don't think Marill is suited. Marill just don't has the physics of a fighter. Neither does Jigglypuff but Jigglypuff atleast is very populair (atleast in Japan) and has been around much longer. Sure you can beat the Elite Four with Marill, but only if it's lv 100 and alot of others can do that to. Marill is just not suited... Sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Aqua sorry but Young Link isn't that much of a great character. He's basically just like Dr. Mario. Just the same character as the base char but only with other stats. And having Link TP style means that Zelda and Ganon will be TP style aswell. I dunno if Sheik is gonna be in Twilight Princess and I highly doubt that so I don't think she'll be in SSBB. Young Link isnt in Twilight Princess so I doubt he'll return.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've actually heard some convincing theories that the character Young Link will be replaced somehow to fit the look of Wind Waker/Four Swords/Phantom Hourglass (the new DS game). So, we'll have the adult Link from Twilight Princess, and we'll have a version of Young Link representing the more recent games.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Along with this theory is that Zelda will also have a Young Zelda counterpart, perhaps even Tetra from Wind Waker.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh yeah. And what about Vaati? I think he'd be a cool addition.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:25 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And having Link TP style means that Zelda and Ganon will be TP style aswell. I dunno if Sheik is gonna be in Twilight Princess and I highly doubt that so I don't think she'll be in SSBB. Young Link isnt in Twilight Princess so I doubt he'll return.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Shiek's in TP. Probably Zelda will just don the Sheikah cloak, but have a shiek moveset with different graphics. Young Link will be the same except developed to look be WW Link, I'm suspecting.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    EDIT: This might as well be an expansion of GL's post :D

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 21 May 2006 - 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Vaati would be an interesting character to join SSBB, but he really wasn't featured in up-front Zelda games. I, frankly, would be surprised if he were in SSBB.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 21 May 2006 - 12:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's what I was thinking as well. He doesn't really stick out as much as someone like Gannondorf. He would be an interesting character though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 21 May 2006 - 12:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm just hoping that they put some Golden Sun characters in it. Then I shall be jumping with joy when I buy it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think there is a chance, but I'm not sure. GS characters would be cool, but I think there are others which people would prefer over them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            In a perfect world we could hope for this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That right there is the most truth I've seen all day. Pretty much everyone is there that I would want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm really hoping for some tingle action.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostGolden Sun Master, on May 21 2006, 11:15 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm just hoping that they put some Golden Sun characters in it. Then I shall be jumping with joy when I buy it.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Golden Sun can't compare to the traditional games like Fire Emblem and Zelda or the classics like Kid Icarus and Ice Climbers. They already had a launch appearance. It's the traditional games, the revolutionary games and the classics that Nintendo wants in an SSB game. I can't see how GS would be in SSB. No chance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 21 May 2006 - 04:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View Postrobotkiller, on May 21 2006, 02:11 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In a perfect world we could hope for this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is... that Tom Nook I see in there..?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gee I don't know. The fact that GS is the best damn RPG on the GBA so far (and that my friends, MUST be a fact) should rent it a spot. They'd have some pretty good moves but that was discussed already.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 21 May 2006 - 04:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    is that something you made? sorry, but im a little slow... i am against letting tingle in the game, he is just WAY too creepy

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's obviously a fake, Isaac. I'm sure SSBB would look pretty impressive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 21 May 2006 - 06:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's pretty good for an idea/faked "leaked" image, though, hats off to whoever made it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If the picture RK gave us was real, it would make everyone happy. But some of those characters are, uh...yeah. 1) Tom Nook: WTF, seriously. He's a friggin' racoon. 2) PacMan: Yeah, I can see it now...His signature move: running away 3) Toad: Unless he runs over people in a gokart,...WTF. 4) Andy: He's from a popular game, and he's a well known character, but seriously. How would he attack? Chucking wrenches? Sami at least has an assult rifle. 5) Tingle...is just....creepy. Although he could float around and drop bombs...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          There would be a few others I might take out, but since they at least have obvious means of attack....But nice find RK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            GL, about the Wind Waker style Young Link... You read my mind! That's exactly what I wanted to do with him! Also, YL should be there since he is actually the main character of the Zelda series, not Adult Link, since he stars in more games. Vaati would be a great character to add, but I don't see it happening.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That list of characters up there is just way too big! Just imagine how many clones there would be!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 21 May 2006 - 10:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm just glad that list has Fawful.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 22 May 2006 - 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There would be many clones, but it would still make everyone happy. Pretty much every character you could ever want is on that list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 22 May 2006 - 01:07 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  GL, about the Wind Waker style Young Link... You read my mind! That's exactly what I wanted to do with him! Also, YL should be there since he is actually the main character of the Zelda series, not Adult Link, since he stars in more games.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It is more fitting, really. WW Link is a Young Link with a hookshot, bow, and bombs. I bet his taunt will wave the Wind Waker around.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What do you think the other character's taunts will be, taking into consideration the newer games they star in?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 22 May 2006 - 02:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Definitely, I'm glad you both agree. This way, both Link and a WW/Young Link would have unique movesets, instead of being just variations of one another, and plus adds more unique qualities.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As for taunts, that's a good idea, about waving the Wind Waker around, although I actually think that might be a good idea for a grab (hold the enemy in place with wind, while WW Link "conducts" and damages him? Just an idea.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I shudder to think what type of taunt Wario would have.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But definitely, for (Adult) Link, his taunt should be sheathing his sword, just as he did at the end of the first ever trailer for Twilight Princess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 22 May 2006 - 02:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mabey instead of fire arrows, WW/young link would have light arrows. Those would be awesome. Kirby's taunt would stay the same, and so would luigi's. Meta knigt's might be slashing his sword around or something, but I don't have a clue for pits, and I'm too afraid to think of Wario's taunt.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 22 May 2006 - 04:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        For Fox and Falco, how about their Assault victory or secret taunts ("Bring it!" or "Guess that's that!" for Fox; "That was too easy" and "Can't touch me..." for Falco)? Zero Suit Samus should pose as she does in the endings of Metroid games, how about that?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 22 May 2006 - 05:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostGolden Legacy, on May 22 2006, 03:22 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But definitely, for (Adult) Link, his taunt should be sheathing his sword, just as he did at the end of the first ever trailer for Twilight Princess.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That would look weird because when he finished his taunt, wouldn't he just take his sword out again? I think he should just briefly twirl his sword around in the same fashion as putting his sword away, and then bring his sword up like his usual taunt.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I love Mr. Game & Watch's taunt. It's so annoying to other players! XP

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mario should do what he does in Super Mario 64 when he get's a star, spin around and while yelling "Here we go!" show two fingers at us. That sounded rude...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 23 May 2006 - 11:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Whenever I'm Game and Watch, and I don't get hit. I just taunt the whole time. It annoys the hell out of everyone! However, most of the time, as a result, I am the first one killed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 23 May 2006 - 04:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mabey that's why you're so bad at the game... XD j/k

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostAquamarine, on May 22 2006, 08:45 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  yelling "Here we go!" show two fingers at us. That sounded rude...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It'll be rated a little more than Teen, in that case XD

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You know what's sad? How Ganon showed his sword only for a victory pose. In SSBB, that sword better be there in his moveset!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  EDIT: That sword is one of the coolest I've ever seen, btw.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 23 May 2006 - 04:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree. The sword would make him much more unique, and could've prevented him from being a CF clone if they used it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If Ganon has his WW appearance, then I'd love to pull off those l33t ninja skillz he had.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        haven't been paying attention to this lately, been busy. Did anythinb about this come up at E3?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          *Stares wide-eyed at Werebarret*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          EVERYTHING happened at E3! You missed out on SO MUCH! go to www.ign.com and www.smashbrothers.com or any of the links posted earlier here. You are gonna LOVE IT.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just look in the E3 2006 topic. I posted so many links in there it's not even funny. Anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 24 May 2006 - 12:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I was wondering... I would like to get a Wii, MOSTLY because of this game's internet play so I can fight you guys, but I don't know how good you are at Melee. Here is some info about me, you can view all of it in-game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have played a total of 4153 VS games, most of which are Time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have 285 trophies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              When I play alone I usually have three Lv.9 computers, no teams. I usually win. :) I can also beat two teamed up LV.9 CPU's on my own, depending on which character I've chosen. On a good day I can even beat THREE teamed comps. I use dodging quite a lot, though I don't like to grab and throw enemies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm really interested to see something about you guys.


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