[Sea of Time]

Because of recent events in the Common Room, I've decided to take one of its most beloved and long running topics and try to bring it back to when it actually had some meaning.

For reference to the old Girlfriend/Boyfriend topic, click here.

Basically, this topic is for serious discussion on any relationships you may have experienced in the past or are experiencing right now. Just remember to keep the spam away, because of the relocation to the Off-Topic forum, this will no longer be tolerated.

Have fun!

[Drizzy Drake]

I have been dating my girlfriend now for over a year. I know it sounds all cliche, but I actualy love her, and hope we stay together for a long time.

Sex rules. Just to sound manly.

[Nosferatu]

A year and 5 months I believe. It gets hard to remember. Although it's good when she forgets too.

[Drizzy Drake]

Well October 31st(I know eh) till now, so that's....A year and 3 monthes.

[Nosferatu]

Skidzorz, on Jan 14 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

Well October 31st(I know eh) till now, so that's....A year and 3 monthes.

July 28th, 2006 up until now. Only 15 days after my birthday. Best month ever.

[Drizzy Drake]

Well this Hallowen we kind of celebrated our anniversary during the day, and partied with friends at night.

[Golden Legacy]

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. :)

[Drizzy Drake]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 14 2008, 09:23 PM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. :wub:

:) . Weirdo. Nah jk. That's sweet. Kind of movieesque.

[Toasty]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 14 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. :)

Same, actually.

[Ironsight]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 14 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. :)

Same here too. Kind of...


...dammit....

[Caael]

Had a 5 month relationship last year. It was pretty fun while it lasted, although we both knew it wouldnt last long. At least now I know the ' technique' if you like :). I know bore about the subject now, so I wont make the same mistakes not time.

[Lightning Star]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 14 2008, 07:23 PM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. :P

Dude of Wind, on Jan 14 2008, 08:07 PM, said:

Same, actually.

DarkSword, on Jan 14 2008, 10:12 PM, said:

Same here too. Kind of...


...dammit....

Awwwww! ^^ You guys seem awesome enough that you should all have had a girlfriend by now.

Y'know, it may not seem like it, but there are a lot of girls who have the same views, and they're just waiting for guys like you to sweep them off their feet. I was the same way until the beginning of '07 when I had my first kiss. I really wished I had waited until it was with the right person at the right time. I was feeling rushed because all my friends were teasing me for being 16 and never been kissed. It was really akward when I did finally have it, and looking back, I really wish I had waited.

So lesson learned, it's better to wait for the right person than to rush and it wish you hadn't.

[Sea of Time]

My first kiss was awkward as well. But I can't say I would have waited any longer for it to happen. It just did, and I guess that's what I should've expected would happen. That was way back in the early summer of '06.

[Caael]

I was 13 with my first kiss, beat that.

[Drizzy Drake]

12. Beat THAT.

Constructive posts only please. - SoT

[Kuchiyose]

Hmmmm I've got to be honest I'm same with Golden legacy and others, its not the fact I'm waiting for dating and love, its just its never really interested me, my friend says I have a sort of 'black heart' (what for not been interested in love?) but hey I've been happy single but one thing i want to know is, why do you want to be dated? Bizarre question but I want to know other people views on this. Some don't want to be lonely, some are players (or something) etc.

[Drizzy Drake]

When I was 13-15 I would just do stuff with any hot girl that would, be now I have a girlfriend, and I find it more satisfying.

We both know what the other wants, if you know what I mean. *Wink wink*.

[Golden Legacy]

Earth Dude, on Jan 17 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

I was 13 with my first kiss, beat that.

Skidzorz, on Jan 17 2008, 04:32 PM, said:

12. Beat THAT.

17 and never kissed.
PWNED. :P

Kuchiyose, on Jan 17 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

Hmmmm I've got to be honest I'm same with Golden legacy and others, its not the fact I'm waiting for dating and love, its just its never really interested me, my friend says I have a sort of 'black heart' (what for not been interested in love?) but hey I've been happy single but one thing i want to know is, why do you want to be dated? Bizarre question but I want to know other people views on this. Some don't want to be lonely, some are players (or something) etc.

My thoughts exactly. And to answer your question, it's not necessarily that I don't want to date or anything - yes, I don't think I have the time nor do I think it a priority in my life - it's partly that I don't see a need for it right now. That's the thing I've never understood about certain people dating, they seem to think they "have to" have a girlfriend/boyfriend.

For me, it'll be worth experiencing with the right person. That's all I can ask for, and that's all that I (personally) believe anyone else should too.

[Kuchiyose]

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We both know what the other wants, if you know what I mean. *Wink wink*.

Its unbelievable what some people would do just for sex, quite sick actually :P

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it'll be worth experiencing with the right person.

yeah I agree, some students at my college usually rush into dates (same where i live) and the maximum length of someone been together is two weeks, yes two weeks, its rather pathetic and they say 'I love you' (all over there msn personnel messengers etc) my god I'd love to slap them XD usually start basting they had sex, 3 weeks later they have hepatitis (6 people at my college have it, type A I think. shows there stupidity too).

Yeah why do people think its necessary to date or get married as soon as possible or its some human tradition, I think its fear of been alone thats drives them to do that.

But yeah I'm just too busy for this type of stuff (I've got A levels to work on) and I'm happy as i am so yeah XD

[Caael]

Kuchiyose, on Jan 17 2008, 09:56 PM, said:

Its unbelievable what some people would do just for sex, quite sick actually :P

You havent been in a relationship. And it's not all 'sex sex sex', you both respect each other abotu what you'll do. It's not like the movies where it just happens. You've had to have been there. Seriously, love changes the way you look at things. It makes you a lot more positive about doing difficult or boring things. You have to have been there.

[Drizzy Drake]

Well I was never really looknig for a relationship. I had had one serious relationship in the past and it ended horribly, so I thought eff it, jsut go out and party, but my current girlfriend, I actually care about, and she's not just some booty call.

[Quacnar]

I wonder what percent of the time that people say "I love you" to someone they're dating and its actually true love.

[Drizzy Drake]

killercoz, on Jan 17 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

I wonder what percent of the time that people say "I love you" to someone they're dating and its actually true love.

I've said it to one person, and that's the person I'm dateing now, and I truely meant it.

[Quacnar]

That doesn't necessarily mean it's true love. In fact I think most people mean it, and later realize that they were incorrect.

[Sea of Time]

killercoz, on Jan 17 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

I wonder what percent of the time that people say "I love you" to someone they're dating and its actually true love.

The answer for people under the age of 20 is 0%. True love doesn't happen until you're old enough to have the choice of lifelong commitment.

When you're 16, tomorrow could mean a completely different personality, a completely different outlook. How can you commit to true love when your life is changing so quickly?

[Drizzy Drake]

But I believe it is.

Ya alot of people think they mean it, but that doesn't mean that just because they brake up, that it wasn't true love.

I've been dateing her for over a year, I spend time with her almsot every day(but that's also because we have basically the same friends), and I kind of stopped thinknig of other girls monthes ago. So you can doubt all you want, but I truely love her.


Um, I mean, sex rules. Ya that's it.

[Sea of Time]

Skidzorz, on Jan 17 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

But I believe it is.

Ya alot of people think they mean it, but that doesn't mean that just because they brake up, that it wasn't true love.

I've been dateing her for over a year, I spend time with her almsot every day(but that's also because we have basically the same friends), and I kind of stopped thinknig of other girls monthes ago. So you can doubt all you want, but I truely love her.
Um, I mean, sex rules. Ya that's it.

Well, you're allowed to believe in that if you've been dating for that long. I'm just fully against people who say "I love you" two weeks into a relationship. It's a lie, and an unfair one at that.

[Lightning Star]

NEVER. EVER. EVER. Say you love someone until you KNOW that you really mean it.

To really love someone, god, there are so many qualifications for it. Basically, could your life go on without that person? Would you stay loyal to them if they were far away? Would you give them a a second chance if they messed up? Do you become crazier about them every day? Could you see yourself marrying them some day?

At least, to me, that's what love is. When you date someone, it's important that they have the same view of love as you do. I dated one guy last year that said he loved me on the second day of dating me. I hated it. And now he has a new girlfriend and has his myspace name as "mattloveschristina". It drives me insane when people drop the L bomb too quickly.

And though I can't say that I can completely agree with abstaining from sex until marriage, I do think it's a good idea. Personally, I would wait until I know I love the person (see above) to ever go that far. I mean, as it is, I freak out when I kiss someone for some reason, so I think I will probably end up waiting until marriage anyways.

[Sea of Time]

Icy, on Jan 17 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

NEVER. EVER. EVER. Say you love someone until you KNOW that you really mean it.

To really love someone, god, there are so many qualifications for it. Basically, could your life go on without that person? Would you stay loyal to them if they were far away? Would you give them a a second chance if they messed up? Do you become crazier about them every day? Could you see yourself marrying them some day?

At least, to me, that's what love is. When you date someone, it's important that they have the same view of love as you do. I dated one guy last year that said he loved me on the second day of dating me. I hated it. And now he has a new girlfriend and has his myspace name as "mattloveschristina". It drives me insane when people drop the L bomb too quickly.

And though I can't say that I can completely agree with abstaining from sex until marriage, I do think it's a good idea. Personally, I would wait until I know I love the person (see above) to ever go that far. I mean, as it is, I freak out when I kiss someone for some reason, so I think I will probably end up waiting until marriage anyways.

I pretty much agree with everything said here. Love isn't just something that happens, you have to work towards it and fight through trials to get it. It doesn't just appear out of the blue.

As for sex, I think that it now means little more than saying "I love you" and wait or not, it's never going to be the epiphanical moment people think it will be.

[Drizzy Drake]

Sea of Time, on Jan 17 2008, 06:51 PM, said:

Well, you're allowed to believe in that if you've been dating for that long. I'm just fully against people who say "I love you" two weeks into a relationship. It's a lie, and an unfair one at that.

I dated this one girl for 3 monthes and didn't say ily to her, and ya those people who say ily within 2 weeks are stupid, adolescent, brats.

And I try explaining it to them, and they jsut won't accept that what they ahve isn't true love. It pisses me off. Like god, they're ****ing 14, and they act liek they are ****ing king-**** when it coems to love.

Well, there goes another Skidzorz rant.Good day peoples.





EDIT @ Icy- Ya that must have been anoying(the guy last year). And as for the whoel sex thing, let me tell you this, it's overrated. Ya it's nice, and beautiful, but it isn't the all it's cracked up to be. I say if you love the person, or evne if you really liek them, and you feel you are ready, then go for it.

ANOTHER EDIT- I've never cheated(atleast non on my current girlfriend), I just think that the longer she's away, the better seeing her will be, and the better the se, er, "lovemaking" will be.

[Sea of Time]

Personal experience time! I went off to Ottawa for a week-long trip with other kids my age around the country. Yes, I've talked about it before, and yes, I'm rehashing the subject. Anyways, towards the end of the week I meet this girl (who lives in Ontario) and I guess there's somewhat of a spark. After holding her hand while with a group of people, things kind of accelerated at the week-end dance when we ended up kissing towards the end of the night.

So the week ends, I come home to Manitoba, two thousand miles away, sign on to MSN and she's already saying "I love you". And I'm like "No way". I knew it was a fling, which is what it clearly was, but she was under the impression that love happens after a kiss. That's not how it happens.

Turns out that during that same week, I was introduced to the girlfriend I have now. Me and my girlfriend share a common belief in what "love" is and are both not primed to say it at this moment in time.

Anyways, that's what happened to me to make me believe what I do about "true love".

[Drizzy Drake]

Love is different for different people. Everybody has their own opinions and feelings on it, and I'm happy that you found someboy in Canada's crappyist province(ha jk). Hope it lasts.

[Someone Else]

I agree with Kuchiyose. That's the way I've felt for a long time. I've been single my whole life. I don't feel unhappy or empty. I don't feel obligations to get a gf soon.

[Quacnar]

Skidzorz, on Jan 17 2008, 06:43 PM, said:

But I believe it is.

Ya alot of people think they mean it, but that doesn't mean that just because they brake up, that it wasn't true love.

I've been dateing her for over a year, I spend time with her almsot every day(but that's also because we have basically the same friends), and I kind of stopped thinknig of other girls monthes ago. So you can doubt all you want, but I truely love her.

Skidzorz, on Jan 17 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

And I try explaining it to them, and they jsut won't accept that what they ahve isn't true love. It pisses me off. Like god, they're ****ing 14, and they act liek they are ****ing king-**** when it coems to love.

I dont believe you are in love, as no one at your age can be. It isn't possible. You are mentally going through to many chjanges to know if you want to be with someone for the rest of your life and the same goes for her.

On the other thing I am one of those people who really want a bf.

[Moonear]

You're saying that you can't be in love at 17? How can you say that? You don't knowwhat they're feeling.

[Split Infinity]

killercoz, on Jan 18 2008, 01:59 PM, said:

I dont believe you are in love, as no one at your age can be. It isn't possible. You are mentally going through to many chjanges to know if you want to be with someone for the rest of your life and the same goes for her.

You have absoloutely no right to say that if you don't know what it's like.

killercoz, on Jan 18 2008, 01:59 PM, said:

On a compleyely seperate issue, I am one of those people who freaks that they dont have companionship, I really need a bf.

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[Quacnar]

ihatekraden, on Jan 17 2008, 10:03 PM, said:

You're saying that you can't be in love at 17? How can you say that? You don't knowwhat they're feeling.

It doesn't matter, it isn't possible.

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 10:04 PM, said:

You have absoloutely no right to say that if you don't know what it's like.

Yes I do and not knowing what it's like actually makes it clearer. Your wisdon is not on a higher tier than mine, I have the right to say whatever I choose.

[Split Infinity]

You're allowed to have opinions, but you can't just going around telling people that what they love more than anything in the world is fake or impossible, just because you've never experienced it. Look at it from his point of view.

[Quacnar]

Im sure that I will think that I am in love in the next couple of years and when I am this theory will change, but the original will still be correct. No one who has ever said theyre in love will say they were wrong atg the time, they will only say it later.

[Golden Legacy]

You're both right.

Not experiencing it allows killercoz's words here to have that much more credibility attached to them. He's looking at it objectively, clearly making the distinction between a rational judgment and what would be just sheer emotion clouding it up.

Split's also right in that the only way to ever have the capability of finding out if the love experienced is indeed true is to be in the process of discovering it.

Fair enough?

[Split Infinity]

Well let me put it this way.

Can you tell me what caviar tastes like if you've never eaten it?

[Quacnar]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 17 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

You're both right.

Not experiencing it allows killercoz's words here to have that much more credibility attached to them. He's looking at it objectively, clearly making the distinction between a rational judgment and what would be just sheer emotion clouding it up.

Split's also right in that the only way to ever have the capability of finding out if the love experienced is indeed true is to be in the process of discovering it.

Fair enough?

Secret-from-the-inside moderatoring, clever. Works for me, you basically summed up my point and said I was right.

[Split Infinity]

He said we were both right. It sounds like you're twisting his words there.

[Eugine]

With your analogy -
Let us say the cavier tastes sweet. Would you know if it's really sweet without your taste buds being fully developed?

[Quacnar]

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 10:30 PM, said:

Well let me put it this way.

Can you tell me what caviar tastes like if you've never eaten it?

No, but that is a bad example. Does excretion taste bad? Now surely your impulsive response is yes, but by your rules (unless you have tasted it) you have to say I dont know. I know that it tastes bad because I have watched and listened with clear and rational thought.

.eugine, on Jan 17 2008, 10:35 PM, said:

With your analogy -
Let us say the cavier tastes sweet. Would you know if it's really sweet without your taste buds being fully developed.

Thats a different angle that is also true.

[Split Infinity]

Don't tell me it's a bad example, your wisdom is not on a higher tier than mine.

[Eugine]

You ignored my anology. That makes me sad.

[Quacnar]

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 10:36 PM, said:

Don't tell me it's a bad example, your wisdom is not on a higher tier than mine.

Just because I say it is a bad example and my wisdom it doesn't mean my wisdom is on a higher tier than yours.

[Split Infinity]

If you're going to be like that again I'm just going to ignore you.

And besides, you still haven't given reasoning to your claims.

[Eugine]

You ignored my analogy again. That makes me angry.

Anyway, stop the arguement. We're trying to discuss whether or not you can experience love before becoming an adult. I think it's an interesting subject, since most of my friends think they are in love with their respective partners and I differ.

[Quacnar]

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 10:44 PM, said:

If you're going to be like that again I'm just going to ignore you.

And besides, you still haven't given reasoning to your claims.

Edited, what are the exact claims which I haven't backed up?

[Lightning Star]

MKAY MKAY MKAY!

Lets clear this up.

I'm 17.

I've been in love. In fact, I've been crazy about one person while being away 3000 miles from them, gone through hell to stay with them (have you ever ridden your bike 3 miles in 110 °F heat to talk to someone for 15 minutes every other day all summer?), and stayed loyal to that one person for 2 years. If ever asked, I would have given up my life for that person in an instant. If they needed my heart to live, I would have sacrificed it. I withstood constant verbal attacks from my parents to stay with that person. I dreamed of being with them, they were all I could ever talk about, and to this day, he's still my best friend.

Tell me that's not rational enough to prove that you can experience love. (And mind you, most of this was when I was 14-16 years old)

[Split Infinity]

That love is supposedly 'impossible' even as a young adult, killercoz.

[Golden Legacy]

Enough! Both of you have equally valid points for different reasonings.

killercoz, a "tier of wisdom" is not something that anyone can arbitrarily define on the basis of a single argument - this argument in particular is something that ranges in experience as well as age, factors that are dependent variables (i.e. that can't be helped but occur as a result of individual lifestyles).

Split, don't assume that reasoning cannot exist behind his claim - it's based again on circumstances that occur just out of having experienced different things that have determined your differing opinions. Logic exists even when it's against what you may assume, as from personal perspectives it's difficult to distinguish with what you believe and what may be the reality.

Fair enough?

[Split Infinity]

No offence GL, but I'd like to hear what more he has to say.

[Eugine]

You ignored my analogy again. That makes me move on...

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Tell me that's not rational enough to prove that you can experience love. (And mind you, most of this was when I was 14-16 years old)

The fact that you broke up, shows that you weren't in love? And um, I'm talking about romantic love here.

[Split Infinity]

I acknowledge your freaking analogy, alright?

[Quacnar]

Icy, on Jan 17 2008, 10:47 PM, said:

Tell me that's not rational enough to prove that you can experience love. (And mind you, most of this was when I was 14-16 years old)

No, because love would mean that you 2 are still together and by saying that you 2 are best friends you implied that you are no longer in a romantic relationship. You were merely a teen who thought they were in love.

Golden Legacy, on Jan 17 2008, 10:50 PM, said:

Enough! Both of you have equally valid points for different reasonings.

killercoz, a "tier of wisdom" is not something that anyone can arbitrarily define on the basis of a single argument - this argument in particular is something that ranges in experience as well as age, factors that are dependent variables (i.e. that can't be helped but occur as a result of individual lifestyles).

Split, don't assume that reasoning cannot exist behind his claim - it's based again on circumstances that occur just out of having experienced different things that have determined your differing opinions. Logic exists even when it's against what you may assume, as from personal perspectives it's difficult to distinguish with what you believe and what may be the reality.

Fair enough?

Were not attcking each other GL or doing any other offense, so why are you trying to end this arguement so quickly? I would enjoy to hear other people's views on this subject.

[Split Infinity]

Just because a relationship didn't work out doesn't mean you didn't love that person. It just didn't work out.

[Eugine]

You acknowledged my analogy, when I have already moved on...

And coz, you just stole my point! Or do we just have the same trend of thought?

[Quacnar]

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 11:01 PM, said:

Just because a relationship didn't work out doesn't mean you didn't love that person. It just didn't work out.

Ah, this is the arguements core. I feel that love is when you are with the person for the rest of your or their life and can not live without them. The moment you break up with said person you are now admitting you weren't in love.

.eugine, on Jan 17 2008, 11:02 PM, said:

You acknowledged my analogy, when I have already moved on...

And coz, you just stole my point! Or do we just have the same trend of thought?

Great minds think alike :P !!

[Eugine]

Well, to go against my point, remember there are two people in an relationship. One may be in love, while the other may not. This can cause problems, and relationships can end because of this.
That's why you find so many people lamenting over their Ex. They really did love them, until they finally moved on. Some do not move on.

[Quacnar]

Which is why I said the moment you break up with them. Not vice-versa.

[Split Infinity]

It is possible to fall in love more than once, you know. There isn't just one person in the world who is perfect for you; how else would we find our life partners without scanning the entire human population?

[Lightning Star]

.eugine, on Jan 17 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

You ignored my analogy again. That makes me move on...

The fact that you broke up, shows that you weren't in love? And um, I'm talking about romantic love here.

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

Just because a relationship didn't work out doesn't mean you didn't love that person. It just didn't work out.

Spam king's got it. My ex and I full heartedly loved each other even when we broke up. It was because we cared so much about each other and our well being that we decided it would be best if we broke up. He had family that needed him where he lived and it would cost SO much money to go to an out of state college, where I got a full ride scholarship to a college where I live. And though I try to deny it so much (because he has a girlfriend now) I'm still in love with him.

[Quacnar]

Spam King, on Jan 17 2008, 11:10 PM, said:

It is possible to fall in love more than once, you know. There isn't just one person in the world who is perfect for you; how else would we find our life partners without scanning the entire human population?

Heres what I am arguing: once you fall in love the second time you fall out of love the first time.

[Split Infinity]

Well you can't know that. Like Icy said, a lot of people still have feelings for their exes, even after they've moved on to a new relationship.

[Quacnar]

Feelings doesn't equal love. In fact a lot of people have feelings for their ex post break up.

[Split Infinity]

Point, but that doesn't mean you didn't love them at the time.

[Quacnar]

You didn't love them, you thought you loved them.

[Split Infinity]

What if you loved someone with all your heart, and then became involved in a car crash thereby going into an irreversable coma? Does that make the love you felt so clearly before, fake?

[Quacnar]

I would still love them for the person they were before hand.

[Split Infinity]

Exactly. Even if someone else came into your life who made you feel the same way.

[Caael]

Spam King, on Jan 18 2008, 04:04 AM, said:

You have absoloutely no right to say that if you don't know what it's like.


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Exactly, you guys might have different definitions of love, but mine doesnt mean to get married to that person. Love in my eyes isnt wanting to spend your life with that person. I cant really describe it, but people cant go around saying ' omg ur not in luv, ur 2 yung 2 understand' because thats bullcrap. Everybody thinks different about love.

[My Best Wishes]

I had a whole lot of quotes lined up to respond too but I can't be arsed.

I feel that people (mostly people our age/younger) have grown up with the idea of love everywhere, on the radio, books, TV, movies, and they are just so anixous to feel it, that when they reach puberty and, 'fall' for someone, they express the unknown feelings they encounter as love, for lack of experience.
However, to contradict that, I could quite easily claim I have been in love, love as it is my understanding. I won't go into details but the feelings I felt were so powerful that I couldn't possibly imagine feeling stronger then that for any person, so, by default it feel into 'love' in my mind.
We are pretty much discussing what love is right? Or did I just disrupt the whole topic...

[Fury]

I've never been in a relationship myself. And I'm not really into them anyway. Sure, I'd like to have a girlfriend one day, and maybe live together and stuff. But I don't wanna get married because marriage eventually leads to kids, which I don't want.

[Drizzy Drake]

killercoz, on Jan 17 2008, 10:59 PM, said:

No, because love would mean that you 2 are still together and by saying that you 2 are best friends you implied that you are no longer in a romantic relationship. You were merely a teen who thought they were in love.

SO by your theory, if a couple is married for 20 years, but then they get a divorce, then those 20 years weren't love at all?

How is it impossible to fall in love at 16, but it is possible at let's say 25. It's a number, nothing more, nothing less. So basically I will have to stay with my current girlfriedn forever for it to be love, that makes no ****nig sense.

It's like callnig the Wii crappy, before you play it, or saying brusslesprouts taste bad, without tasteing them. It is not possible. You can NOT say what somebody else is feeling, THAT is impossible. You have no way of knowing if a 16 year old is in love, unless you are that person.

[Caael]

I agree with Skidz. Just because Icy or SoT said that young people cant love doesnt mean they are right. I mean, how would you like it if somebody went up to you and said ' Sorry, but you cant come over here, you're too fat' or something like that. There's no ' age limit' for love, you just feel it.

[Drizzy Drake]

Seeing as "age" is really just a number made up by humans.

[Luna]

Skidzorz, on Jan 18 2008, 05:46 PM, said:

Seeing as "age" is really just a number made up by humans.

... One year = one revolution around the Sun, in this case, by our Planet Earth. It's not really "made up" since Time is just something that is there so...

[EDIT]
So I guess what people are pointing out in this topic as "age" is actually "maturity."

[Eugine]

^ true.

Anyway, I'm siding with coz, to an extent. I'm not going to the extreme, and say you can't fall in love at 16, but there are too much emotions to say you are in love. As you get older, and your emotions are fully 'developed', maybe you will realise you are, or aren't in love.

[Lightning Star]

Earth Dude, on Jan 18 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

I agree with Skidz. Just because Icy or SoT said that young people cant love doesnt mean they are right. I mean, how would you like it if somebody went up to you and said ' Sorry, but you cant come over here, you're too fat' or something like that. There's no ' age limit' for love, you just feel it.

READ MY POST.

I didn't say that D: I said exactly the opposite! T-T Young people CAN love!

Have any of you seen boy meets world? (best show IN the world)? well there's an episode where Topanga's parents get a divorce, and Cory tries to put them back together. The way her mother says it is "We were once in love, but now we've fallen out of love" So just because you're not with someone doesn't mean that you didn't love them.

And as for people not being able to love at a young age, look at your family! I've known since an early age that I would do anything for my family, that I would die for them, and that I love them. We are capable at loving others at a young age, just the love we're talking about here is a differnet kind of love.

[Drizzy Drake]

Icy, on Jan 19 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

READ MY POST.

I didn't say that D: I said exactly the opposite! T-T Young people CAN love!

Have any of you seen boy meets world? (best show IN the world)? well there's an episode where Topanga's parents get a divorce, and Cory tries to put them back together. The way her mother says it is "We were once in love, but now we've fallen out of love" So just because you're not with someone doesn't mean that you didn't love them.

And as for people not being able to love at a young age, look at your family! I've known since an early age that I would do anything for my family, that I would die for them, and that I love them. We are capable at loving others at a young age, just the love we're talking about here is a differnet kind of love.

I think that family comment basically proves you can be in love at a young age.

[Nosferatu]

Ahhh bitter people and talking about love. How it never ceases to amuse me. (Yet that's insanely ironic coming from me.)

Anyway, love is possible at a young age. Age in the conventional means (years alive) has next to nothing to do with it. Maturity is what matters. If two people are ready and willing to take on a relationship, it is because they feel they are mature enough to handle it.

But some people here will never understand that word.

[Drizzy Drake]

What is this "maturity" you are tlaknig about?

[Lightning Star]

Haha. Cute :D

And I completely agree with nosferatu. The saying "wise beyond his/her years" is entirely applicable to some young adults. However, it may be improbable, but I also think that a relationship can increase someone's maturity.

[Drizzy Drake]

Mhmm. It is still entirely possible for a 16 year old to be in love.

[Quacnar]

No it isn't because they are not at their fully matured stage and don't understand the concept of love.

[Drizzy Drake]

SO you don't love your mother then? And don't give me that bull**** that it's your parents so it is different. Age has NOTHNIG to do with love. Just because your emotions are changing at a constant rate, does not mean you know what love is. In all reality, lovei s just a word made up by humans. It is the feeling of a need for a person. SO if you say you can not love at 16, then NO 16 year old i nthe WORLD loves there parents. Your logic makes no sense. Just because you don't feel lvoe, doesn't mena I don't. And really, if you are even going to say a 16 year old can not feel love, then get to 16 first, and then give your opinion. Your opinion is null, seeing as you aren't even 16 yet.

[Quacnar]

My opinion isn't null because Im 14 rather than 16. It is a scientific fact that Homo sapiens are not fully developed at age 16. They do not have the expirience or knowledge to fully understand love. They are also going through too many changes to know that they are going to want to spend the rest of their lives with the person they are saying "I love you". Do you think that you are going to spend the rest of your life with the woman you are with now Skidzorz? If not that you are not in love because love equals spending the rest of your life together which is a commitment I doubt you are willing to make. Perhaps the reason I disagree with a lot of you is that our perception of love is different. My perception is that loves means eternal caring and wanting to be with that person(Thats why any kid can love their parents, it is also 2 different types of love, but thats not the focus of this arguement) for the rest of your life. The moment you break up with that person, divorce them, etc. you are admitting that you made a mistake and were not in love with them. I think you all feel that you could have been in love with someone, but then that love ceases to exsist and that one can be in love with someone after breaking up with them. I disagree to these points, but apparently you will all not be convinced.

[Drizzy Drake]

I honestly see myself with Mel in 20, 40 years.

ANd jsut because humans are not fully developed, does not mean that the emotions they feel are not true. So by your definition, at 16, you can not hate, love, want, need, dispise, loathe, feel disgusted or feel joy, seeing as those are all emotions. And don't say that lvoe is the only emotion not fully developed at 16, becasue they all would or wouldn't be. ANd lvoe for your parents is the EXACT same thing. It is love. Nothnig more, nothnig less.

By definition, they are the same thing, but by YOUR definiton, no 16 year old can feel love for their parents.



SO let me get tihs straight, jsut so I don't miss anything.

By 16, you CAN NOT love your parents, can not feel ANY emotions, or atleast true emotions, and you can't love somebody of the opesite sex(or same in your case)?

Did I miss anything.





ANd jsut because people brake up, does NOT mean they were not in love, it can jsut mean, they are not in love anymore. It happens. People don't stay in love forever.

Because I do see mysefl with Mel in 20 years, but if we broke up after say 30 years, it certainly does not mean I did not love her.

[Split Infinity]

Love is not a physical thing, killercoz.

[Luna]

I'm gonna post just for the sake of popping in something new in the argument since everyone here keeps going on about being too young to understand or be able to love or the such.

There's a girl that is gonna be 22 pretty soon and she is the biggest slut I know. She has a new boyfriend every month and you can take it for granted that she will say she loves them when not even one week of the relationship has gone by. She also makes all of this stuff public, just to break up later, have a new boyfriend, and then say she loves him again after not even a week.

So how about that? According to everyone's terms here, she seems pretty old to love but I don't believe she's mature enough. I know people much younger than her that are infinitely more apt for these relationships than she is.

[Drizzy Drake]

Sheba, on Jan 19 2008, 09:56 PM, said:

I'm gonna post just for the sake of popping in something new in the argument since everyone here keeps going on about being too young to understand or be able to love or the such.

There's a girl that is gonna be 22 pretty soon and she is the biggest slut I know. She has a new boyfriend every month and you can take it for granted that she will say she loves them when not even one week of the relationship has gone by. She also makes all of this stuff public, just to break up later, have a new boyfriend, and then say she loves him again after not even a week.

So how about that? According to everyone's terms here, she seems pretty old to love but I don't believe she's mature enough.

I don't know if that is for, or against, my arguement, but I will tkae it as it is for me.

@Killercoz-See you can be that old, and not be mature enoguh to actualy lvoe somebody, and then you can be 16, and love somebody.

[Luna]

It's not aimed at anyone in particular. Since this is such a... touchy subject I'm not really looking at who says what. Just more like the overall behaviour of the topic.

[Caael]

Looking back when I was 10 in primary school, a few people had bf's/gf's and I find it hard to believe at that age they were genuinely in love. When you're 10, you're main purpose is to show off and prove you're better than everybody else.

Just thought i'd throw that out there :P

[Quacnar]

Skidzorz, on Jan 19 2008, 08:19 PM, said:

SO let me get tihs straight, jsut so I don't miss anything.

By 16, you CAN NOT love your parents, can not feel ANY emotions, or atleast true emotions, and you can't love somebody of the opesite sex(or same in your case)?

Did I miss anything.

You said all of that, not me. I dissagree with almost all of what you said.

Split Infinity, on Jan 19 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Love is not a physical thing, killercoz.

When did I say it was?(Not in asking in a snobby way, but actually where because I dont recall saying that it is)

[Split Infinity]

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It is a scientific fact that Homo sapiens are not fully developed at age 16. They do not have the expirience or knowledge to fully understand love.

You seem to be linking age directly with knowledge, which is not how the brain works. Knowledge can only come from experience, and we are open to having that experience at any time. It's like saying a ten year old can't understand calculus; if their brain happens to be maturing at an increased rate, it's certainly possible. Just like a person can be more mentally mature than most and be able to comprehend the experience of love.

I believe love can occur any time after puberty, because that is the moment a person is able to feel and understand such feelings.

[Caael]

That ' scientific fact' is bullcrap. So you're not fully developed, that doesnt mean anything. Just because you dont ' understand' love doesn't mean you cant feel it.

[Drizzy Drake]

Earth Dude, on Jan 20 2008, 05:00 PM, said:

That ' scientific fact' is bullcrap. So you're not fully developed, that doesnt mean anything. Just because you dont ' understand' love doesn't mean you cant feel it.

[Ironsight]

Split Infinity, on Jan 20 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

You seem to be linking age directly with knowledge, which is not how the brain works. Knowledge can only come from experience, and we are open to having that experience at any time. It's like saying a ten year old can't understand calculus; if their brain happens to be maturing at an increased rate, it's certainly possible. Just like a person can be more mentally mature than most and be able to comprehend the experience of love.

I believe love can occur any time after puberty, because that is the moment a person is able to feel and understand such feelings.

I was going to say the same thing, but Split beat me to it. That pretty much is what I think.

[Saturos S.]

Skidzorz, on Jan 20 2008, 11:36 PM, said:

And the point of this post was?

Meh, I'm guess I could be old enough to love, I just havn't found the person who triggers it in the right way. Sure, I've been with girls and everything, sure, I fancied them, but just not enough to last more then a month with the same girl.

[redchi]

me and my bf will be together for about a year on feb,11 i love him soo much he make life worth livin for me

[Drizzy Drake]

I`m happy for you. If he doesn`t get you something nice and I will smack him.

[Split Infinity]

redchi, may I ask why you're always talking to him via PM?

[redchi]

Split Infinity, on Jan 29 2008, 10:11 PM, said:

redchi, may I ask why you're always talking to him via PM?

Cress isnt my bf if that who u think he is . My bf on another site , cress is my best friend plz can everone drop the idea that were more then that it just a reqest that all.

[Quacnar]

^ Grammar please!!!

It's called a report button. Use it. - SoT

[redchi]

killercoz, on Jan 31 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

^ Grammar please!!!

i am trying my best >>

[Cress Albane]

killercoz, on Jan 31 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

^ Grammar please!!!

Back off. so what if she's not perfect? who are you to insult others?

[Quacnar]

Cress Albane, on Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM, said:

Back off. so what if she's not perfect? who are you to insult others?

I am not insulting her at all. it was just very hard to read, so I was asking her to please use more grammar in the future. Im not trying to be insulting or cruel and apoligize if I seemed that way.

[Cress Albane]

killercoz, on Jan 31 2008, 09:14 PM, said:

I am not insulting her at all. it was just very hard to read, so I was asking her to please use more grammar in the future. Im not trying to be insulting or cruel and apoligize if I seemed that way.

hmmm.... funny you should mention that. we talk ALL the time and I've NEVER had trouble understanding. that said, yes, that seemed very much like an insult.

[Golden Legacy]

Easy there fellas. Cress, it was a fairly innocent question, but killercoz, don't make that your entire post, remember that you have to make your post also contribute to the topic at hand.

At any rate, I finally got to see my girl friend (note the space), a close friend of mine and probably the closest friend I've made here in college. We hadn't seen each other in over a month because of break, so it was a bit emotional seeing her again.

[Drizzy Drake]

I saw Juno for the second time last night with my girlfriend.

Meh, it sort of fits in this topic.

[Cress Albane]

[quote name='Golden Legacy' date='Jan 31 2008, 09:28 PM' post='374399']
Easy there fellas. Cress, it was a fairly innocent question, but killercoz, don't make that your entire post, remember that you have to make your post also contribute to the topic at hand.[quote]

maybe the kid shouldn't be such a f?cking a s s hole and go pointing other people's imperfections.

[Drizzy Drake]

THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one.

[Lightning Star]

Back on topic, folks.

Anyways, Juno was a pretty good movie. I found it interesting that

Spoiler

she realizes she loves the guy after she becomes pregnant with his child

I guess it just goes to show that some relationships are wacky like that.

I'm not necessarily content with being single, but I know that I probably would be itching to get out of a relationship if I got in one. I actually kind of like this one kid, Nick, I've known since 7th grade, and he's going out with my best friend, Kat. I told one of my other friends, Amber, about the situation, and she told me that she likes him too, and in fact, it brings her to tears because she loves the kid so much, but she knows Nick's happy with Kat. It's really sad, and everyone is pretending they're happy.

Oh the drama! As if we didn't have enough in high school ^_^ I think I'm going to stay out of this one. Yeah, I pretty much don't have real strong feelings for anyone right now.

[redchi]

sigh, all that i can say is that ill try better. I had problem with my grammer and my spelling since i was a child but that all i am going to say becase it would go off topick , sorry for all the 'drama' ill shut up now :) ^_^

[Cress Albane]

redchi, on Jan 31 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

sigh, all that i can say is that ill try better. I had problem with my grammer and my spelling since i was a child but that all i am going to say becase it would go off topick , sorry for all the 'drama' ill shut up now :) ^_^

that's right hun, you tell em'

[Lightning Star]

*facepalm* Can we please get back on topic?

So Redchi, how did you meet your boyfriend? ^^

[Eugine]

redchi, on Jan 31 2008, 11:26 PM, said:

sigh, all that i can say is that ill try better. I had problem with my grammer and my spelling since i was a child but that all i am going to say becase it would go off topick , sorry for all the 'drama' ill shut up now :) ^_^

Do you have dyslexia? I was diagnosed with mild dyslexia when I was young ^^. It's alright redchi, you probably rock at other stuff =)

[redchi]

Icy, on Jan 31 2008, 10:35 PM, said:

*facepalm* Can we please get back on topic?

So Redchi, how did you meet your boyfriend? ^^

On another site we have been dating online about a year soon.

[Caael]

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maybe the kid shouldn't be such a f?cking a s s hole and go pointing other people's imperfections.

Calm the hell down man. It's not as if he put a gun to her head. You dont have to defend everything against your mates.

I'm interested in a few people at the moment, but I know none would work if I went out with them.

[Quacnar]

Cress Albane, on Jan 31 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

maybe the kid shouldn't be such a f?cking a s s hole and go pointing other people's imperfections.

Cress Albane, on Jan 31 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

that's right hun, you tell em'

I was really not trying to be mean. I mean how could one possibly really insult someone with 2 words. Some people when they first come on forums, write as if its aim or texting. When you're on forums it changes from that tgo proper grammar. Considering she's new to this forum, I thought she might not have known this, so I felt I should point this out to her.

[Cress Albane]

mmhmm... just let it go while you're ahead. I don't give a da mn about your reason.

[Quacnar]

You're being ridiculous now.

[Golden Legacy]

Next person who continues this argument will be warned. Back on topic, now.


~3900~

[Laharl]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 15 2008, 02:23 AM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. ^_^

Dude of Wind, on Jan 15 2008, 03:07 AM, said:

Same, actually.

DarkSword, on Jan 15 2008, 05:12 AM, said:

Same here too. Kind of...
...dammit....

............................................................................same

there i admitted it! (it was probably obvious though XD)

dont have the time, money or motivation to even consider a relationship

nothing quite beats being woken up by your housemate argueing with his gf over some fickle piece of bull**** in the early hours of the morning

[Caael]

If you have frequent arguements in a relationship, it's not a very good one. When I was with my ex, we had a few aguements over petty things and we got over it easily.

[Cress Albane]

well, they say opposites attract. so, are you saying that, but to the opposite extreme?
I don't fight with my girlfriend very often, I love her very very much.

[Drizzy Drake]

We have little fights every now and then, but we hardly ever have big fights. If we do, it is always over by the end of the night.

[Cress Albane]

lol. well yeah. so you can make up, of course!

[Drizzy Drake]

Make up sex love, is always the best.

[Cress Albane]

lol, of course it is!

[Drizzy Drake]

Mhmm. Question, how do you know Redchi if she lives in Ottawa?


And who is your girlfriend? Is she nice, a *****, tall, short, D's, A's?

[Cress Albane]

we met on another site.
is that any of your business? haha...

she is very kind, short(er), very beautiful, probably at LEAST D.

[Drizzy Drake]

I was just wondering how you met her. Sheesh. Jebus Christ.

My girlfriend is like, 5'6ish, and I'm 511. She has black hair, very beautiful and sexy, and we both like all the same things. She even plays video games with me, AND does drugs. What mroe could I ask for. ^_^. She is VERY good with Sheik in SSBM.

[Cress Albane]

woah, oh man, you guys do drugs, you must be cool!!

....... I see.......

[Drizzy Drake]

I never said doing drugs is cool, but it's nice to have a girlfriend that won't nag me about it.

[Cress Albane]

I hear ya man.

[Ironsight]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 14 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

Never been in a relationship myself. Never had a gf, never been on a date, never been kissed... I'm simply waiting to share those wonderful first memories at the right time, with the right girl. ^_^

DarkSword, on Jan 14 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

Same here too. Kind of...
...dammit....

Not only that, but I also feel as if I'm just not ready for a relationship.

[Caael]

'Not feeling ready' just means you're f*ck ugly and cant get a date.

[kate]

hahaha wow, that was so very uncalled for.

I think it's so sweet you guys are waiting n.n Way too many people jump into relationships with whoever they think looks cute that week...

<.< like me *emo tear*

Nah, I like to think all my relationships have meant something, I'm just the poster child for a.d.d. so it never lasts too long.

ooo serious question though that I really need an opinion on. Is it ok for you to date your best friend's ex?

[Drizzy Drake]

Talk to your bestfriend first, and ask them if it's allright. If they say it's allright, but you can tell it's not, then wait. I've done that, and it didn't go over well.

[kate]

Haha actually my best friend is dating my ex. I said it was ok cause she kinda cornered me, but I've made it clear since then that it's really not...However I don't know if I have the right to be upset about it. It's just they make out on my locker every day between breaks and at lunch and it's made my life hell...

[Drizzy Drake]

Teach her a lesson. Date her ex, and if she gets jelous, then it's her fault. She is dating somebody so she shouldn't be mad. :D.

[kate]

haha I don't think I could do that, although her ex is cute. Sorta sinking to her level...but wow, you would make a really awesome betchy girl skip, congrats :D mad manipulating skills

[Caael]

It's quite depressing when a week after you break up with somebody, they're going out with somebody else.

[Cress Albane]

you broke up, it's none of your business who your ex dates. that means you AND your ex are available to ANYONE. don't bother being jealous, just move on.

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Feb 2 2008, 05:34 PM, said:

haha I don't think I could do that, although her ex is cute. Sorta sinking to her level...but wow, you would make a really awesome betchy girl skip, congrats :D mad manipulating skills

I would be an awsome girl. Wow, that sounded really gay. But really it's not sinking to her level. You are dating somebody you find attractive, and she is dating somebdoy else, so she shouldn't get mad.

[Caael]

Cress Albane, on Feb 2 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

you broke up, it's none of your business who your ex dates. that means you AND your ex are available to ANYONE. don't bother being jealous, just move on.

I know I should move on, but it hurts when she's with another guy so soon after me, like she didn't care about me.

[Eugine]

Out of respect, I wouldn't date my BEST friend ex, and wouldn't want my best friend to date my Ex, but it isn't my choice.
Not every relationships ends on a good note. Actually, I can't really see relationships ending on a good note, since there would be some hate towards each other even if we pretend there isn't. Do you know how hard it would be to see your best friend making out with your past lover? It would be hard to watch, and it would make me personally feel like you have no feelings for me.

It's not about "It's not my business!" honestly, but more about respect.

[Cress Albane]

boo hoo. you broke up. evidently one of you stopped caring otherwise it would not have happened.

[Drizzy Drake]

Not nessecarily. Sometimes, it jsut doesn't work. Not always, but it does happen.

[Eugine]

That's true =)
I guess I just need to stop caring so much about other people feelings. That's why I honestly can't have a serious relationship. I hate favouring someone over another x.x

[Cress Albane]

just don't worry about what your ex is doing. just worry about what YOU are doing.
if you don't think about it, you'll be fine. I used to watch my ex and bestfriend make out right in front of me and it didn't phase me at all. just don't let it bother you.

[Drizzy Drake]

But for some people it's not that simple. If you truely loved said ex, it is hard to get over, adn even harder to watch them get over you so quickly.

[Eugine]

Yup. That's why I honestly agree with Skidz post. It's the most realistic solution imo.

Skidzorz, on Feb 2 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

Talk to your bestfriend first, and ask them if it's allright. If they say it's allright, but you can tell it's not, then wait. I've done that, and it didn't go over well.

[kate]

yeah cress, I don't know how it's so easy for you, but it does phase me. It's hard to get closure when they're always around reminding me. He actually had a gf before he started dating my best friend, but that didn't bother me at all because I never saw them. I think even if they just went someplace else to make out I'd be ok, it's just the fact that they do it right in front of me is, as eug said, a serious lack of respect.

[Drizzy Drake]

Talk to your friend if it bothers you that much. If she is truely your friend she will understand. SHe might not break up with the guy, but she would keep the making out down to a minimum when you are around. She should atleast, if you really is your friend.

[kate]

yeah good advice. Maybe I need to be more direct, because I did actually ask her to tone it down and she said she would and then didn't...rawr maybe I didn't explain it right x.x Thank goodness I'm leaving soon, I'm starting to think they're not really my friends /emo rant

[Drizzy Drake]

Aww, don't be all emo, that's my job. Ya, be direct with her. Sit her down when you guys are all alnoe and tell her how much it bothers you, and how you get depressed and crap when they make out. And if that doesn't work, jsut call me up, and I'll deal with it.

[Cress Albane]

that girl meant everything to me. I, unlike you guys, don't let it bother me. I am really over it.

....haha... I'm sorry if it makes me look like an a s s hole, but I can't really sympathize for you guys. all I can say is..... try to get over it. maybe I can help....

[Drizzy Drake]

It doens't make you look liek an asshole at all. Some people jsut get over things easier, nuff said.

[Cress Albane]

maybe.... we also had a good relationship that ended with no regrets. that could be why.

[Caael]

Cress Albane, on Feb 2 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

boo hoo. you broke up. evidently one of you stopped caring otherwise it would not have happened.

It was a mutual agreement, and we're still friends. It doesnt bother me any more but it did when she told me.

Quote

....haha... I'm sorry if it makes me look like an a s s hole, but I can't really sympathize for you guys. all I can say is..... try to get over it. maybe I can help....

I'm not expecting people to sympathise, i was just making a statement. I've got over it now, just for a while I was really depressed about it.

[Lightning Star]

Yeah, when I first broke up with my ex, it killed me to think that he'd be kissing another girl, especially since I still loved him. It doesn't bother me much any more, and It'll be a whole year in...6 days since we broke up.

So because I waited around so long to finally get the guts enough to consider a relationship with this guy at my school, I find out that not only does he not like me anymore, but he's now gei. You can imagine how great I felt after that.

But then during the bus ride home, I chat with this really nice (and cute!) Christian guy that I've been wanting to talk to, so it all evened out. ^^

[Drizzy Drake]

Yay for you. Hope you all the best.

[Lightning Star]

Wow, I think we killed the topic. XD

Well for english (which I totally just spelled inglish. Go me), we had to write a paper on some different prompts, and one was "traits you like in a man/woman". I thought kind of fit in topic pretty nicely, so I'll post what I wrote! ^^

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There's no such thing as the perfect man, as many females know, but all girls are allowed to dream, right? Appearances hardly make a difference, but if I had to say what I would like, it'd be a guy with rich dark brown or black hair. He would be clean-shaven and have sparkling green-blue eyes that could take me away from the rest of the world. He would be just a tad bit taller than myself so I had to stand just on my tippie-toes for a kiss that, of course, would sweep me off my feet and tussle up butterflies in my stomach.

But no guy is perfect, and if I were to pick one guy out of a crowd, I would most likely choose the one that's different, but holds himself with dignity. He wouldn't be the most gorgeous one, wearing a Hollister sweater or an Abercrombie & Fitch shirt. Instead he'd most likely sport a witty, “You just wasted 7 seconds of your life reading this” T-shirt. However, he'd have to look smart, which wouldn't necessarily mean he'd be entrenched in some book, but he would wear the face of a man in deep thought. Ignorance would infuriate him, as he would be a man of common sense.

If I were to speak to him, he would keep me talking and listening with either his clever humor or an interesting debate that would get me thinking. He would be a gentleman and respect females, and not call them derogatory names. He would hold the door for a girl before entering a room and like her for her personality, not her appearance. Chivalry would most definitely be his middle name.

If he were to be my friend, he would be able to understand me and not take me seriously when I snap at him while in a bad mood. He would stop at nothing to make me smile if I were sad and would never let me live down one of my “dumb blond” moments, letting me know he never forgets the times we've shared. He would know all my flaws, and not only accept me despite them, but would also be flawed in all the same ways.

If he were real, he'd be my soul mate. He would never leave me for another girl, he would call me randomly to tell me he loves me, and when he was with his friends, he would point at me with pride, saying, “That's my girl”. No, he wouldn't be perfect to others, but he'd be perfect to me.

Yeah, kinda corny sounding with the end and all, but keep in mind, it was an essay, so I had to tie it all together ^^;

[Caael]

Bumped because I have a new GF :P

[Sea of Time]

Thanks for describing how you met her, how you knew her, all that stuff. Come on man, if there's one thing gossip girls boys like me need, it's details!

[Caael]

Well we've been friends for a while and recently we've been pretty close and i asked ' what would you say if i asked you out?' and she said yes so then i asked her for real and yay :P

[Sea of Time]

That's awesome! Hope things work out for you guys.

[Caael]

Thanks :P

[PDM]

Caael, on Mar 10 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

Well we've been friends for a while and recently we've been pretty close and i asked ' what would you say if i asked you out?' and she said yes so then i asked her for real and yay :P

What would you say if I asked you out is, like, asking her out but if she says no it never happened.

That's all.

[Caael]

Exactly :P

[Aquamarine]

Ha ha, Yuki you're hilarious!

Anyhow, only 6 days ago I kinda found out my best female friend is interested in me... And I sort of pushed her away from me. I didn't know at the time though! She asked me a question about dating and girls, and I said something, and then I saw her reaction and it kinda hit me. Ah well, I can't even bother dating and I haven't really got the time, so this is what I would have chosen had I known earlier. I'm seeing her tomorrow, so I'm just hoping everything will be all right between us, because she's a really great friend and I don't want to lose her.

[Sea of Time]

When me and my current girlfriend were just friends and she had a different boyfriend, she said she was interested in me and I pushed her away because I didn't want to get in between her and the other guy. But we still stayed friends and eventually everything worked itself out. So don't worry about that stuff, if you guys were friends before, you can still be friends now.

[Split Infinity]

I've just noticed that a large majority of the posts here are along the lines of:

'Just got a new boyfriend/girlfriend.'

'Hope it works out for you.'

'Gee, thanks!'

:(

[Caael]

Water Dude, on Mar 14 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

Ha ha, Yuki you're hilarious!

Anyhow, only 6 days ago I kinda found out my best female friend is interested in me... And I sort of pushed her away from me. I didn't know at the time though! She asked me a question about dating and girls, and I said something, and then I saw her reaction and it kinda hit me. Ah well, I can't even bother dating and I haven't really got the time, so this is what I would have chosen had I known earlier. I'm seeing her tomorrow, so I'm just hoping everything will be all right between us, because she's a really great friend and I don't want to lose her.

So your gay?

But seriously, it really doesn't take up much time. If you know she's interested and she's relatively attractive, go for it. What's the worst that could happen? I've gone out with a few of my best girl friends and we've always remained friends after we broke up, so what's the hold back? Time isn't an issue, girls will understand that. And you cant possibly be busy for every single hour in the week.

[Split Infinity]

Like Caael said, you could just hang out with each other on weekends, like you would any of your other friends.

[Drizzy Drake]

I see my girlfriend almost every day, but we go to the same school, so.

[Aquamarine]

Caael, on Mar 15 2008, 12:01 AM, said:

So your gay?

But seriously, it really doesn't take up much time. If you know she's interested and she's relatively attractive, go for it. What's the worst that could happen? I've gone out with a few of my best girl friends and we've always remained friends after we broke up, so what's the hold back? Time isn't an issue, girls will understand that. And you cant possibly be busy for every single hour in the week.

You got a problem with that, punk?

Nah, it's just that I seriously can't bother having to see one girl and go out with her and stuff like that... Call me weird or whatever. I've had girlfriends so I do know what it's like. It's also that I have a lot on my mind lately and I find dating just... unimportant. Again, call me weird.

However, one night relationships are something I definitely want and am always open to. My friend is organizing a party in about a week where he'll call just his ten or so best friends, plus about ten chicks, and the point of the party are one night stands. It'll be awesome.

[Caael]

Lol i'm more of a relationship person than a one night stand person. I like comitting to one person :(

[Aquamarine]

... I don't. Simple as that.

[Caael]

At least I know i'm not gonna get an STD.

[Eugine]

Aqua, you're a ho.

[Split Infinity]

Yeah, I don't really see how a one night stand can be considered a relationship at all.

[PDM]

LOL, Aqua's going to an orgy o_O

[Caael]

Yeah, and? At least he gets some action.

[Eugine]

Wow. That's pretty low.
If it is infact an orgy Aqua, that's disgusting, low, and sickening. Wow...

I admit everyone has urges, but... Wow...

[Caael]

One Night Stands aren't my thing. I like having one person to commit to <3

[Aquamarine]

Everyone has the right to think whatever they want about everything. So you guys can think what you wish about me and what I do, it's your God given right. Heck, I even completely understand Eugine's reaction. However, I wouldn't exactly call this party an orgy. It won't be like, you go there and there are a bunch of horny girls who don't care who they sleep with. I will actually have to put some effort into getting any of them into bed, and none of them might even want to have sex on the first night. I might get hooked up with some chick but not be able to talk her into having sex right away. Or maybe I won't even manage to hook up with any of them. Meh, I'll see what happens... I'm mostly going to the party to have fun with my guy friends and drink some alcohol.

[Caael]

Word of advice Aqua; dont let a slut be your first time.

[Split Infinity]

It's a bit late for that, Caael. :)

[Drizzy Drake]

Go for them virgin's. Nice and tight.

[Eugine]

How about waiting until you marry?

[Drizzy Drake]

That's so last century.

[Eugine]

Society today eh...

[Drizzy Drake]

But really, who save's themselves for marriage. Sure, save yourself for the right girl, but what if you are like Gean Simmons, and never get married, jsut stay together for liek 30 years?

[Eugine]

Because sex is a way to show that you are spiritually, emotionally, and physically connected under God. When you have sex without those requirements it becomes something less meaningful...

Ah well.