[Drizzy Drake]

How about non religious people?

And really, if you have sex before marriage, it doesn't make it less meaningfull. What if a girl waits for a guy she loves, and waits till she's 25 or something, then has sex with said guy. It will be really meaningfull, because she waited all that time.

[Eugine]

Well, I just think differently from you. I think marriage comes before sex.

Why? Marriage is a way to show that a man and a woman are binded under God, the Government or w/e. Sex is a way of 'expressing' your bond.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have sex before marriage though. I'm just saying that I'll try very hard.

[Caael]

Sex makes you feel good. Nuff said.

[Drizzy Drake]

Allright. I just don't get all that crap. Like how does it show you are binded by god, by not sticking a body part into another's body part before you get married. Does that not mean you can't stick your finger in somebody's mouth?

Whatever though.

EDIT-What Caael said. And really, it's not all "holy" like most people make it out to be. Sure it feels good, but it's not like a life changing experience like some people make it out to be.

[Caael]

I'm not religious, never have been and doubt I never will, so I dont have spiritual morals holding me back. Plus the 16 years old law didnt stop me either :)

[Eugine]

Yea...
It's not holy cuz in this age people like you has dumbed it down to another form of entertainment and perversion, when in reality it isn't...

[Wiflewood]

You might end up marrying someone whos **** at it then :/

[Drizzy Drake]

It never was holy. How is inserting somebody into something else holy. Wouldn't that make a blowjob holy?

And when did I ever say it was an act of perversion or entertainment? It is nice, and should be shared between two people who are ready, but it isn't like some holy experience.

EDIT @ Wiffle-HAHAHA. You win.

[Caael]

How is it pervese anyway? If god wanted you to reproduce, then he wouldn't want it to be sinful, would he. And how do you think he feels about animals, they're not condemned to hell because they aren't married. I dont think God really has a place in modern society, but thats for another topic.

[Eugine]

Well... I wouldn't marry someone for sex Wifle... If I was that kinda guy I wouldn't marry in the first place...

You don't have to say it explicity Skidz, "Go for them virgin's. Nice and tight." said enough...

[Caael]

I really dont see the point in a consent age. People under 12 are too scared of getting cooties anyway, but after that people dont give a crap and literally **** anything that moves.

[Drizzy Drake]

Caael, on Mar 16 2008, 04:16 PM, said:

How is it pervese anyway? If god wanted you to reproduce, then he wouldn't want it to be sinful, would he. And how do you think he feels about animals, they're not condemned to hell because they aren't married. I dont think God really has a place in modern society, but thats for another topic.

QFT.

.eugine, on Mar 16 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

Well... I wouldn't marry someone for sex Wifle... If I was that kinda guy I wouldn't marry in the first place...

You don't have to say it explicity Skidz, "Go for them virgin's. Nice and tight." said enough...

Wow, I thought everybody would realise that was a joke.

EDIT-There's an age to have sex? I alwasy thought just if you were 18+ you couldn't ahve sex with anybody younger than 18, and vice versa.

[Eugine]

lolz.
Did you know they caught a guy at my school ****ing an animal...

He had to leave the school. Actually, he had to migrate to USA...

EDIT: Oh, I missed Caael's post. I think the lack of God is the reason why society is the way it is today. Ah well ^_~

[Wiflewood]

Yeh, Skidz, in England the age of consent is 16, you can't have sex before that (well, legally).

Im pretty sure once your passed 16 you can have sex with anyone above 16, but obviously eyebrows will be raised if you had sex with someone significantly older.

@ Eug: Im not a very strict Catholic, I reckon that as long as its safe and loving sex, God aint gonna mind if you do it before marriage.

Also, due to the Catholic church's stance on it, people who go to Catholic schools don't learn about stuff like that in school either. My school was just an ordinary one and we had quite a few lessons on safe sex, putting condoms on cucumbers etc, but they don't get that in catholic schools, which is obviously a problem.

[Caael]

I guess i'm a really selfish person, nothing holds me back from doing something unless i'll come off worse from doing it. Say having sex; I gain something from that, but if robbing a bank; i'd probably get jailed.

[Wiflewood]

Im guessing you would draw the line somewhere though, you must have some morals.

Would you rob the bank if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?
Would you mug an old lady if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?
Would you rape a girl if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?

[Caael]

Good point.

Meh, imo, the consent law is kinda like a medal among chavs; ' I lost my virginity 5 years before the consent law' ( which of course are all lies) but it's actually encouraging people more than it's stopping people. Because there's a law, its something more to break.

[Wiflewood]

True. Just like they wear their ASBOs as badges of honour.

Regarding my earlier point, did everyone here get lessons in safe sex etc at their school? Practice putting a condom on a cucumber, or at least warnings about having safe sex and STDs etc?

[Caael]

Lol we were given dildos to put condoms on. We had one lesson in year 6 ( 10 years old) but everybody thought girls had cooties then so nobody really cared, and we had one last year with the condoms on the dildos and we were properly taught about STD's, how they're spread etc but only discouraged us about having unsafe sex and said nothing about safe sex. That's a go-ahead signal if I ever saw one :)

[Eugine]

Like you Wifle, I went to a Catholic school. We only had about one class with sex ed.

Teaching us about God was more important. In religious studies we learned why to abstain though.

[Caael]

Also in secondary school, its a science GCSE module about reproduction, so even if you did go to a catholic school it's compulsorary to learn about it or you dont get the GCSE (:

[Eugine]

Biology? That was my favourite class x3!

My science teacher was always, "I don't believe in this, but you are required to learn this..."

[Wiflewood]

I didn't go to a Catholic school, I got all the lessons about condoms etc. But one of my mates did, and he said they didn't get any info on that.

I think thats a problem though, I mean sure, teaching them about it is going to encourage their interest, and doing stuff like putting condoms on is, as Caael says, kind of giving a 'Go ahead' signal, but half the kids who go to catholic colleges/schools aren't catholic anyway, and most of the catholics aren't going to abstain, so your really creating a massive ignorance that could go on to much worse things, STDs, unplanned pregnancies etc..

Biology is different anyway, of course youve got to learn how to reproduce, even the catholic church acknowledges that; but biology doesn't teach you anything about safe sex or stds..

[Caael]

Benefits dont help either. A lot of kids go and get knocked up just so they get given a council house and craploads of money from the government.

[Eugine]

This is a really complicated situation yeah. I always go back and forth on the issues.

I think parenting is probably the most crucial factor in having underage sex, so education in school, imo, has little to no effect...

[Caael]

So if your parents got pregnant as teenagers to get a council house, what do you think's gonna happen to their kids?

And so the circle begins.

[Eugine]

A council house is?

Yeah. It's a very difficult situation. Dunno, unless the school is private, the parents should have a say as to whether the school teaches them sex ed.

[Drizzy Drake]

Wiflewood, on Mar 16 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

Yeh, Skidz, in England the age of consent is 16, you can't have sex before that (well, legally).

Im pretty sure once your passed 16 you can have sex with anyone above 16, but obviously eyebrows will be raised if you had sex with someone significantly older.

@ Eug: Im not a very strict Catholic, I reckon that as long as its safe and loving sex, God aint gonna mind if you do it before marriage.

Also, due to the Catholic church's stance on it, people who go to Catholic schools don't learn about stuff like that in school either. My school was just an ordinary one and we had quite a few lessons on safe sex, putting condoms on cucumbers etc, but they don't get that in catholic schools, which is obviously a problem.

Oh. Here, there isn't an age of consent. Just 18+ and 18- can't have sex.

Wiflewood, on Mar 16 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

Im guessing you would draw the line somewhere though, you must have some morals.

Would you rob the bank if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?
Would you mug an old lady if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?
Would you rape a girl if there was a 100% chance you wouldn't get caught?

Would I rob a bank? Sure. Why not? I have morals, but to me, it jsut seems logical.

Would I rop an old lady? No. She earned that mone.

Would I rape a girl? Hell no. I think rape is a vial action, and I went beserk when a guy tried to rape my gf.

[Golden Legacy]

Dipset, on Mar 16 2008, 09:38 PM, said:

Oh. Here, there isn't an age of consent. Just 18+ and 18- can't have sex.
Would I rob a bank? Sure. Why not? I have morals, but to me, it jsut seems logical.

Would I rop an old lady? No. She earned that mone.

Would I rape a girl? Hell no. I think rape is a vial action, and I went beserk when a guy tried to rape my gf.

Robbing a bank is still immoral.
Your reasoning for not robbing an old woman isn't ideal either. It's not because she "earned the money", it's that it's sick and wrong to steal regardless, and especially from an elder.
Rape is a vile action, but yes.

[Wiflewood]

And the money in the bank wasn't earned by anyone?

[kate]

I like money.

I hate relationships.

I don't really know what we're talking about here, but slow down skippy before you dig yourself a hole.

Oh, speaking of earning money, my family lost $40 000 because someone had your attitude towards banks (although the bank had dumb insurance and had transferred our money without us knowing and it was all very retarded), and my parents definitely had earned it. People like you are the reason I can't shop at holt renfrew :)

tragic, I know. ok really people like you probably had little to do with us losing 40k, but I miss it nonetheless.

Relationships really suck.

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Mar 17 2008, 11:52 AM, said:

I like money.

I hate relationships.

I don't really know what we're talking about here, but slow down skippy before you dig yourself a hole.

Oh, speaking of earning money, my family lost $40 000 because someone had your attitude towards banks (although the bank had dumb insurance and had transferred our money without us knowing and it was all very retarded), and my parents definitely had earned it. People like you are the reason I can't shop at holt renfrew :)

tragic, I know. ok really people like you probably had little to do with us losing 40k, but I miss it nonetheless.

Relationships really suck.

I find it funny how this got so overproportioned. There is ALWAYS a chacne you could get caught robbing a bank, and therefore I wouldn't do it. I was more thinknig in the case of having the power to stop time, or soem **** like that, but seeing as that's impossible, and there are camera's, and security, and people to rat you out, I wouldn't do it. You guys need to lighten up.

And relationships don't always suck, if you find the right person. I have a great time being with my gf, and never once have I felt like breaking up with her. I'm not saying it won't ever happen(because it's impossible to predict the future), but I can see me and her having a family together.

[Caael]

Been with my GF a week. Suck on that! :)

[Gio]

Caael, on Mar 17 2008, 02:57 PM, said:

Been with my GF a week. Suck on that! :)

2 years

YAY for me

HUZZAH!!!

[kate]

I have a bad track record...really bad.

Oh well, I'm crippled emotionally, big whoop :)

Let's talk about something more fun. Like why marriage is unnecessary and most of the time stupid.

aaand go.

[Split Infinity]

Caael, on Mar 18 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

Suck on that! :)

At which point the relationship ended.

[kate]

that's what she said

but props to gio. 2 years, wow. Must be due to that whole love thing I hear about.

weird human emotions.

"And so the circle begins." IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIFE

[Drizzy Drake]

1 year and 5 monthes for moi.

@ Kate-Why be crippled emotionally. You're a girl, you people can get anything you want.

[kate]

I know right, but that's not the problem. The problem is keeping them

ie, I never want to.

7 relationships and I ended all of them. Not because I'm some coldhearted *****, but because...I dunno. They fizzled.

[Drizzy Drake]

Well if there wasn't something there, you shouldn't force it. Though I don't believe you aren't a cold hard b!tch. You're a female, it's in your nature. (Kidding of course).

Just go out with friends, have fun, and you might meet somebody.

If not, you can always fly down to Kingston :P.

[Caael]

Nice one Gio, she better be hot :P

[Wiflewood]

pics everyone! we can do a 'rate the girlfriend/boyfriend'.

[Drizzy Drake]

Hmm, because that will turn out well.

* posts their gf, ** calls her ugly, * starts flameing like made.

[kate]

like made people, like made

lol and yeah I mostly do just hang out with friends and flirt with the occasional person, I think maybe I was trying to force something in the past, now I'm sorta just waiting for something to come along. I know, not very proactive, but I'm a very lazy person.

Problem with hanging out with friends when trying to meet boys: my friends are all way hotter than me.
Seriously, I need to invest in some fugly friends or something...

[Drizzy Drake]

Call up Ugly Betty.

But still, you don't have to have the conventional sense of beauty for people to like you. I mean, ****, I see men with fat women all the time, and though they may be ugly as hell, the guys like their personality.

[kate]

but you have to admit that first impressions are important especially with young males, and they only have looks to go on until they really get to know you. Which takes time, and effort, two things I'm not fond of :P

[Drizzy Drake]

Well, in that case, you're ****ed.

You have no time for men but you have time for the New Years Resolution incident?

[kate]

hey, I always have time for the ladies :P

no but seriously, I think I have like commitment issues or something. When I start dating a guy I always think he's the one and then I'm like "o not rly jkjk"

and then stuff gets awkward and then some whore who I thought I could trust betrays me and then I get to go all ***** on her ass which is awesome cause I'm way better at it than her but still I think I just want stuff I can't have =/

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Mar 17 2008, 04:15 PM, said:

hey, I always have time for the ladies :P

no but seriously, I think I have like commitment issues or something. When I start dating a guy I always think he's the one and then I'm like "o not rly jkjk"

and then stuff gets awkward and then some whore who I thought I could trust betrays me and then I get to go all ***** on her ass which is awesome cause I'm way better at it than her but still I think I just want stuff I can't have =/

Are you talking about who I think you're talking about?

And what is the *'s?

And then don't date every guy. Find somebdoy you have stuff in common with.

[kate]

not what you think it is, but that applies too :P

...and it's b!tch

and omg, effoooort. Especially since the only thing I have in common with most guys I know is IB and have you ever met IB guys? ew.

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Mar 17 2008, 04:20 PM, said:

not what you think it is, but that applies too :)

...and it's b!tch

and omg, effoooort. Especially since the only thing I have in common with most guys I know is IB and have you ever met IB guys? ew.

Ya, when you told me, I thought, :P, what a c**t. Make all the art she wants, she's still a c**t.

Ohh, ok, that makes sense.

IB?

[Caael]

Hahah, screw you skidz she didnt want to see Juno, so we're seeing meet the spartans.


...

This was discussed over PM, wasn't it.

[Drizzy Drake]

Yes, yes it was.

Meet The Spartans was DUMB! But if you'd rather see it over a masterpiece like Juno, go ahead.

[Quacnar]

Juno wasn't a masterpiece, it was a good movie though.

[Drizzy Drake]

I'll give you that. It was still better than Meet The Spartans.


So, Coz, you got a special someone?

[Quacnar]

Do I have a Boyfriend? No

Are there some people who might be gay that I am interested in? Yes.

[Drizzy Drake]

Go for it then. Or are they all like, uglylike?

[kate]

See, I need a gay best friend. they look out for you. Girls are not to be trusted (lulzreallyfunnyderrickcomedyvideo)

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Mar 17 2008, 06:25 PM, said:

See, I need a gay best friend. they look out for you. Girls are not to be trusted (lulzreallyfunnyderrickcomedyvideo)

****, I could have told you that.

Girls, especially she who will not be named.

[kate]

Lady Voldemort?

wait who are you talking about? I'm so confused.

[Drizzy Drake]

That girl. You know. The one me and you talked about over MSN. That backstabbing-bfstealing one. Ya, you know.

[Quacnar]

Dipset, on Mar 17 2008, 08:15 PM, said:

Go for it then. Or are they all like, uglylike?

HAHA no, if they were ugly tehn I wouldnt really be attracted to them. PLus a lot of people are in the closet at 14/15.

[kate]

how would you even know at 14/15??

well maybe guys would...I dunno

[Someone Else]

I agree with kate here, except I've never had a gf.



...or a bf. You perverts.

[kate]

be my valentine wd :P (monthlateftwlol)

[Quacnar]

To respond to kate because I understand myself perfectly. I understood that when I was attracted to a guy that everything made sense. Why I never felt the way I thought I was suppossed to feel about girls. It was society that made me think Im gay because it portrays gay as being a wierd, bad thing.

[kate]

well then I think it's cool that you're that self aware. Alot of people wouldn't be, or may be in denial or something.

It seems some people today are actually being fooled into thinking they're gay as much as gays being fooled into thinking they're straight. I have a friend who is really effeminate and the artsy type, and basically he called himself gay for a long time because it helped explain to himself who he was. He pretty much called himself gay because it was easier than trying to be straight with his personality. Turns out he was straight though...my bad.

[Quacnar]

Interesting, I don't really think the amounts are similar, but I could see why someone would think that.

[Split Infinity]

Coz, I know this is kind of obvious, but it might be a good idea to check whether somebody is of your...polarity...before you try to make an advance on them. Or even try waiting a few years. People around your age aren't really very acceptant to that sort of thing yet.

[Golden Legacy]

I second Split's suggestion, just be careful and make sure that the boy you're interested in is also gay. It may not even be that people are not accepting, just that it might be confusing especially at that age.

Also, I'm curious Coz - what kind of environment is your school? That also plays a huge factor. I, for example, went to a high school that was very open and accepting, people of all different ethnicities and backgrounds, gay couples were just as likely to be seen making out as straight ones, etc., and if it's like that, then I wouldn't worry as much.

[pHantOm]

Dating Kasey for a year now <3 Everything is perfect <3

Oh, and kate you're always welcome into my bed :P

[PDM]

.eugine, on Mar 16 2008, 08:14 AM, said:

Wow. That's pretty low.
If it is infact an orgy Aqua, that's disgusting, low, and sickening. Wow...

I admit everyone has urges, but... Wow...

It's okay, Eugine, I can take a joke over the internet! loliknowiknowijusthadtosaythathough



And LOL @ the responses of me saying Aqua is going to an orgy.

[Aquamarine]

GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT AQUA IS GOING TO AN ORGY?!?!?!?!

[Caael]

OMG AQUA IS GOING TO AN ORGY? HOW WACKY!

[Drizzy Drake]

I call the blonde. *Points at Jenna Jameson*.

[Quacnar]

Split Infinity, on Mar 18 2008, 01:18 AM, said:

Coz, I know this is kind of obvious, but it might be a good idea to check whether somebody is of your...polarity...before you try to make an advance on them. Or even try waiting a few years. People around your age aren't really very acceptant to that sort of thing yet.

Yeah I know a lot of people won't be accepting and that I have to be careful, but so far only one friend of mine reacted poorly.

Golden Legacy, on Mar 18 2008, 01:58 AM, said:

I second Split's suggestion, just be careful and make sure that the boy you're interested in is also gay. It may not even be that people are not accepting, just that it might be confusing especially at that age.

Also, I'm curious Coz - what kind of environment is your school? That also plays a huge factor. I, for example, went to a high school that was very open and accepting, people of all different ethnicities and backgrounds, gay couples were just as likely to be seen making out as straight ones, etc., and if it's like that, then I wouldn't worry as much.

School wise i think the majority of people wouldn't care, some of course will, but the majority will be accepting. In fact there is an openly gay senior whose popularity skyrocketed when he admitted he was gay. Weird..

Also, I plan to come out of the closet to everyone in 10th grade. That way I will know who from my home town are assholes and who are people that i can truly depend on.

[kate]

that's awesome coz, that takes alot of bravery.

and omg aqua, is that the same orgy I'm going to?? we're like totally sisters.

[Drizzy Drake]

Just don't lean in for a kiss, and then have him say he's not gay. That would suck.

And naw Kate, he's gonig to the orgy I set up. I called up some contacts *Cough*JennaJameson,RavenRiley,JennaHaze*Cough* and they called up their friends, and well, the rest is history. Yup, it's gonig to be awesome. You can come to see Aqua if you want.

[PDM]

Dipset, on Mar 18 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

Just don't lean in for a kiss, and then have him say he's not gay. That would suck.

And naw Kate, he's gonig to the orgy I set up. I called up some contacts *Cough*JennaJameson,RavenRiley,JennaHaze*Cough* and they called up their friends, and well, the rest is history. Yup, it's gonig to be awesome. You can come to see Aqua if you want.

Too bad Jenna Jameson is piss ugly now. ):

And coz, I assume you're coming out on the internet to work up the courage to come out in real life?

[Quacnar]

PDM, on Mar 19 2008, 12:00 AM, said:

Too bad Jenna Jameson is piss ugly now. ):

And coz, I assume you're coming out on the internet to work up the courage to come out in real life?

No not really, the reason I admitted I was gay on the forums is that I wanted to respond to a post in the Gay/Homosexuality about the BS that its a choice and all that crap. I also figured that if I feel like you all hate me because im gay I could always leave; There are no reamifications if I admit im gay on the internet.

[Split Infinity]

I think you'd be surprised, Coz.

[Quacnar]

Suprised about?? The Ramifications of admitting that Im gay to total strangers that I wouldnt reconize if I walked by them?? What are they?

[Split Infinity]

I meant that the internet is a very powerful media.

[Quacnar]

I guess your right in that anyone on the forums could go and find people in my school and tell them about this website and blah blah blah, but why would anyone??

[Split Infinity]

Well it has happened before. Just try not to piss off too many people. :(

[Toasty]

If people hate you here Coz, it's not because you're gay. They probably think you're annoying.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Dude, what's that supposed to mean? Your hereby saying that 'cause Coz is homosexual, he's automatically annoying? Shallow people like you might be just the reason why gay people can't come out of the closet without fear of being rejected by friends and family.

If people indeed hate Coz cause he's gay, then they'll hate him just for his sexual preferences which they cannot accept. Every single other reason to hate homosexuals (being stereotypical like Toasty here for a minute) like feminine behavoir or anything else comes from only that people just cannot accept his sexuality. Being 'annoying' has nothing to do with this, infact I believe this unacceptfulness if far more annoying for the gay society then steriotypical 'gay behavioir' is annoying to hetrosexuals.

Just to point this out, my best friend is gay too and I've got no problems with that. And yes, I'm straight.

Anyways, so I know this girl. I like her, and I've got a good feeling she likes me too but I'm not sure yet if I like her just enough to have a relationship yet. However, sometimes I AM sure that I want a relationship with her, but I'm just too pussy to tell her. This insecureness now is a kind of 'obstacle' in the girl and my communications and in the meanwhile other people are spreading rumours about me.

To clarify this all, we work at the same place, and the girl is a sister from a guy I get along with very well. Anyways, I really wanna tell the girl I like her, but it's hard for me to see her without other colleques of ours around and honestly I fear rejection like nothing else, so I'm sure I wouldn't have the balls to just say it in public. Sooo if any one here would give me their opinion about this maybe it'll help me out in this situation.

[Wiflewood]

Diddy, you've completely mis-interpreted Toasty's post.

He was saying that if people on here dislike coz, its probably got nothing to do with his sexual orientation; its down to other factors, such as him making annoying posts sometimes. (although they were mainly when he just joined)

Nice story though, Good luck :P

[Split Infinity]

^

Toasty, on Mar 19 2008, 05:18 PM, said:

If people hate you here Coz, it's not because you're gay. They probably think you're annoying.

Shallow people are only as bad as the politcally correct ones. :P

[I'm Always BROKE]

Wiflewood, on Mar 20 2008, 09:48 PM, said:

Diddy, you've completely mis-interpreted Toasty's post.

He was saying that if people on here dislike coz, its probably got nothing to do with his sexual orientation; its down to other factors, such as him making annoying posts sometimes. (although they were mainly when he just joined)

:P

...

Sawwy Toasty. But you know at least my motives where right don't you? =P

Wiflewood, on Mar 20 2008, 09:48 PM, said:

Nice story though, Good luck :D

Thank you.

[Split Infinity]

Anyway, maybe you could try catching her after work? Even take her to get a drink or something like that.

[I'm Always BROKE]

That's like the second step, I still need the first. :P

[Split Infinity]

I meant to get her away somewhere quiet. That's what you need, right?

[Eugine]

Why has the gay community, worldwide, become what it has fought so long to destroy? One of hate.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Split Infinity, on Mar 20 2008, 10:51 PM, said:

I meant to get her away somewhere quiet. That's what you need, right?

Yeah, but when I do that I draw way too much attention to my colleques. I'd rather just ask her when I'm all alone with her after work which is just impossible. However, her birthday is comming up soon and I'm pretty sure I'm invited. But the problem is, she's celebrating it with her ex who wants her back so preferable I'll tell her before her bday.

[Quacnar]

.eugine, on Mar 20 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

Why has the gay community, worldwide, become what it has fought so long to destroy? One of hate.

Isn't a tad infuriating .eugine to be constantly rejected, hated, and bullied for something you have no control over?? (Not me personally, but in general)

[Split Infinity]

But when you think about it, people complain about lots of things that can't be controlled.

[Gio]

.eugine, on Mar 20 2008, 05:23 PM, said:

Why has the gay community, worldwide, become what it has fought so long to destroy? One of hate.

Don't think all gay people are like that, but a lot are, so for the most part I agree with you eugine.

killercoz, on Mar 20 2008, 06:17 PM, said:

Isn't a tad infuriating .eugine to be constantly rejected, hated, and bullied for something you have no control over?? (Not me personally, but in general)

Now I am going to say that a lot of people do hate gays. Now me personally, while I may disagree with your lifestyle, I am not going to dislike you as a person. There are a lot of people that think the same way as I do. Basically all I am saying is not to be to quick to assume someone completely hates you when they just disagree with you lifestyle and nothing else As far as I can tell you are pretty cool person.

Sorry for the rant. I got mad a guy the other day who assumed that I hated gay people when all I said is that I disagree with their lifestyle.

[PDM]

killercoz, on Mar 18 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

No not really, the reason I admitted I was gay on the forums is that I wanted to respond to a post in the Gay/Homosexuality about the BS that its a choice and all that crap. I also figured that if I feel like you all hate me because im gay I could always leave; There are no reamifications if I admit im gay on the internet.

I have nothing against gays or anyone being gay, however I just had to laugh at something involving your coming out.

GL was very insulted when someone suggested the possibility he's a homosexual, and he got extremely defensive about it. And before you came out, him and I were talking about you and some point. He said something along the lines of,

"I like Coz, he reminds me very much of myself when I was his age."

See, because you came out, and you remind him of himself, and he got all defensive when someone suggested him being homosexual.. yes, I think you understand where I'm going. xD

[kate]

I dunno gio, I appreciate what you're trying to say, but really, if someone came up and said they disagreed with who you are, but still liked you, wouldn't you be a little offended too?

I had an evangelical friend, who one day told me she thought I was going to hell for my beliefs, yet still claimed to be my friend. I never looked at her the same though, because how can you be friends with someone who disagrees with the very foundation of who you are?

It's not hate, true, but it is something along that same vein, and it really sucks because there's not alot to do about it. If I had told my friend to stop thinking I was going to hell or we couldn't be friends anymore, then I'd be infringing on her beliefs. So really...I dunno, it just sucks that things like that get in the way of friendships.

[Quacnar]

PDM, on Mar 21 2008, 07:12 AM, said:

I have nothing against gays or anyone being gay, however I just had to laugh at something involving your coming out.

GL was very insulted when someone suggested the possibility he's a homosexual, and he got extremely defensive about it. And before you came out, him and I were talking about you and some point. He said something along the lines of,

"I like Coz, he reminds me very much of myself when I was his age."

See, because you came out, and you remind him of himself, and he got all defensive when someone suggested him being homosexual.. yes, I think you understand where I'm going. xD

HEHE :P

[Split Infinity]

*pictures GL and Coz on a wooden swing surrounded by a field of flowers*

[Caael]

The disturbing thing is it wouldn't suprise me.

[Split Infinity]

kate, on Mar 22 2008, 04:38 AM, said:

I had an evangelical friend, who one day told me she thought I was going to hell for my beliefs, yet still claimed to be my friend. I never looked at her the same though, because how can you be friends with someone who disagrees with the very foundation of who you are?

What exactly did you do that would warrant eternal suffering? o.o

[Caael]

Saw meet the spartans with my gf today. Not exactly the most romantic film in the world, but we got a good laugh out of it.

[Gio]

Quote

I dunno gio, I appreciate what you're trying to say, but really, if someone came up and said they disagreed with who you are, but still liked you, wouldn't you be a little offended too?

I had an evangelical friend, who one day told me she thought I was going to hell for my beliefs, yet still claimed to be my friend. I never looked at her the same though, because how can you be friends with someone who disagrees with the very foundation of who you are?

It's not hate, true, but it is something along that same vein, and it really sucks because there's not alot to do about it. If I had told my friend to stop thinking I was going to hell or we couldn't be friends anymore, then I'd be infringing on her beliefs. So really...I dunno, it just sucks that things like that get in the way of friendships.

No I wouldn't be offended because I have been told the same thing about my religious beliefs.

Also I have friends who are gay, who drink, who have sex, and who do drugs, and even though I don't agree with them and even though they disagree with my religious beliefs we are friends anyway, so I don't think it is that big of a deal unless you let it be a big deal.

[Caael]

I'm very opinionated and very defensive of my opinions. Not everybody ( hardly any people) agree with my views on certain matters, but I dont care, I dont think less of them for that.

I forgot how good having a gf felt before today :P

[Eugine]

What's your GF like Gio and Caael?
And what's the guy(s) you're interested like Coz?

[Gio]

she is nice and pretty and has pretty much the same beliefs that I do.

[Eugine]

Very informative ^^.

[Caael]

Well she's noticabley shorter than me ( i'm 5'7 shes 5'2) which is what people like to point out most :D She's very outgoing and sociable. She's the cute kind of good looking as opposed to the hot kind of good looking. And probably some other stuff I probably shouldn't talk about on this forum :P

[PDM]

Religious or political views shouldn't get in the way of a relationship (friendship or bf/gf, either way.)

[Gio]

.eugine, on Mar 21 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

Very informative ^^.

If you want I could send you a picture over a PM.

PDM, on Mar 21 2008, 07:36 PM, said:

Religious or political views shouldn't get in the way of a relationship (friendship or bf/gf, either way.)

Agree that it shouldn't get in the way of a friendship.

Disagree about the whole GF/BF part.

[Someone Else]

Hmm... my two friends are dating, one is pro-life and the other is pro-choice. Can't remember which. And they seem happy, but maybe abortion is irrelevant in a romantic relationship as opposed to say, religion.

Can't honestly see them lasting after high school, but that might be me wishing that they would be as miserable I am.

[Split Infinity]

Or you could just do the simple thing and...

http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Kris/use.png

[Caael]

I want to know how condom man breathes.

[Wiflewood]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2190/lolhg5.jpg

ALWAYS wear protection kids.

[Split Infinity]

Is that supposed to imply that he's a d**khead?

[Caael]

Yeah I may have only been going out with her for 2 weeks, but I can see us together now with a future.

[Split Infinity]

That's what they all say...until one time she forgets her pill and BAM!

Runaway boyfriend. ;)

[Caael]

Condoms are better.

[kate]

both are better.

[Eugine]

Abstinence wins.

[kate]

Unless you're trying to make bebehs.

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG D:

[Caael]

Pills are more expensive :\

[Eugine]

Abstinence is free.

[Gio]

Amen to that.

[Caael]

Abstinence isnt the best thing in the world.

[Eugine]

What is then?

[Caael]

Sex

[Eugine]

How would you know?

[Caael]

How do you think I know?

[Eugine]

I think you do not know.

[Caael]

I may be 14, but that doesn't stop me having sex.

[Someone Else]

Dry humping doesn't count, Caael.

[Laharl]

neither do animals or corpses XP

[Caael]

Damn...

[Saturos S.]

Pfft... the pill is teh win. You all fail.

Men don't have think about other stuff while getting gigiddy.

[Caael]

Apart from STDs?

[Sea of Time]

PILL + CONDOM = FOOLPROOF PLAN

[Saturos S.]

Pill + condom + abstinence = just wierd.

[Sea of Time]

Pill + Condom + Abstinence + Another Guy = A hella good time.

[Saturos S.]

Did someone say two girls one cup?

[Sea of Time]

We should probably get this back to the realm of serious relationship discussion.

....I have a girlfriend. Nothing has gone wrong. Everything just keeps getting better. There are no problems with my relationship.

Give me suggestions?

[kate]

Try cheating on her, that should add some dynamics ;)

lol I dunno, what do you want? huzzah for your awesome relationship :P

[Sea of Time]

I just wanted to make sure this topic doesn't spiral into "The Sex Discussion". THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

And thanks =D

[Caael]

I thought I was your only one SoT ;)

[kate]

shh, it's okay caael. We all thought we were his only one u.u

[Caael]

It's gonna be tough getting through this D:

[kate]

I hate men. And women. Seriously, I think I'm going to become asexual, that sounds more fun.

[Gio]

would you like me to find a way to transform you into an ameba kate? lol

[Someone Else]

kate, on Mar 23 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

I hate men. And women. Seriously, I think I'm going to become asexual, that sounds more fun.

Hey, what about me?

[kate]

that would be awesome gio, I love amoebas.

aaand everyone on this forum is excluded from that statement wd, since we're all basically amoebas here. smexy amoebas <3

[Eugine]

Except Caael. Being 14 doesn't stop him from having sex.

[Someone Else]

I remember him saying that he described as it was "close enough" to be considered sex. Which means... dry humping. (don't know where I saw it, but I know I did) Which is certainly not sex. Unless something happened from the time he said that.

[Split Infinity]

Unless there was penetration and/or gratification involved, it's not sex.

[Wiflewood]

Split Infinity, on Mar 24 2008, 07:12 AM, said:

Unless there was penetration and/or gratification involved, it's not sex.

Penetration is required no matter what, Split, otherwise Its not sex. And not gratification isn't necessarily needed; it could just be really bad sex :/

[Split Infinity]

What if you pulled out after like, five seconds?

[Caael]

Lol it means nothing to me if people halfway across the world dont think i've had sex before.

And WD, it's more recent than when i said that :P

[Saturos S.]

kate, on Mar 24 2008, 03:29 AM, said:

I hate men. And women. Seriously, I think I'm going to become asexual, that sounds more fun.

auto-erotism perhaps?

As for my love life, last week at a party I kissed 2 girls, turns out one of them really, really liked me. So each time I saw her I was all: "Oh shi-"

I should talk to her some this week, I'm just scared of the [french] le confrontation. [/french]

[Caael]

If she's hot, go for it. If she's not, hide.

[Saturos S.]

Well there lies part of [french] le problem [/french]

She's pretty hot, but I just want a fling. Nothing permanent.

Not sure if she wants that though.

[Eugine]

w00t, w00t. SS, you're a pimp jock stud. Kissing two girls at one party? Care to give me some advise?

[Caael]

U CANT UR ABSTINENT

[Gio]

kate, on Mar 24 2008, 12:47 AM, said:

that would be awesome gio, I love amoebas.

aaand everyone on this forum is excluded from that statement wd, since we're all basically amoebas here. smexy amoebas <3

YAY!!! we all get to be amebas. My suggestion rocked

Hey caael

.eugine, on Mar 24 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

w00t, w00t. SS, you're a pimp jock stud. Kissing two girls at one party? Care to give me some advise?

[Drizzy Drake]

Caael. Pictures of gf. Now.

[Caael]

http://file039b.bebo.com/15/large/2008/02/19/15/16105722a6939412369l.jpg

[Gio]

Surely you have better pic.

[redchi]

-grins- she beautiful caael . oh and dippy Jenna Jameson is mine muhaha

[Caael]

Is that not good enough for you? :P Anyway, why am I the only one posting a pic of my gf, skidz, gio, pics or gtfo.

[Drizzy Drake]

redchi, on Mar 24 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

-grins- she beautiful caael . oh and dippy Jenna Jameson is mine muhaha

You wish.

Caael, on Mar 24 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

Is that not good enough for you? :P Anyway, why am I the only one posting a pic of my gf, skidz, gio, pics or gtfo.

Untill you get the pic up as a thumbnail so I can view it, you ain't seeing my gf. :).

[Caael]

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/1272/rosiegh3.th.jpg

Can you see that skidz?

And thanks redchi :P I'm lucky

[Drizzy Drake]

It's the attack of the big red X's.

[Caael]

You fail at having a good connection. Right, it's there. Happy?

[Eugine]

She's pretty cute Caael. Is she Indian btw?

[Caael]

No...it's a monochrome picture which might have lead you to believe that?

[Eugine]

No idea. She doesn't look caucasian that picture x3.

[Caael]

Well she is. I can see where you're coming from though.

[Eugine]

Get a colour picture!

[Caael]

Nevaar! She's only got like 2 pictures of herself and thats the better one. I'll try and get her to take a colour pic.

[Eugine]

kk cool. No picture for me to show you guys ;_;.

*cries internally*

[Caael]

I've seen you on facebook

[Eugine]

Well yeah. I mean girlfriend.

[Laharl]

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/public/style_images/gssv3/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />Caael, on Mar 24 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

Caael you sly dog, getting a time machine to get yourself a girl from the 1800s XP

[Eugine]

Is that a compliment or insult?

[Laharl]

not a complement >>

whether he's insulted or not, i could care less

[Caael]

Not really. Whats wrong with monochrome pictures?

[kate]

caael, how does she only have two pictures? I have 550 and I'm not nearly that good looking.

and ss, if you want a fling, tell her that, but chances are she doesn't just want a friends with benefits thing.

lulz, procreation is for losers.

[Caael]

Well she'll have more on her computer, but there's only 2 on her bebo.

[MaznAzn]

Hmm, I'll put in my two cents in here then leave quickly to avoid all the "Zomg wtfluxxorz" flames X3

Me= hates relationships. They work for some people, but not for me. I can't stay committed or even like the same person for more than a week. People irritate me too much, especially guys.

But when I do get attached, then something happens, break up, and whoo. Broken heart. Isn't that fun?!

Yeah, I like hugs and kisses. But I can get hugs from my friends, and I'd rather kiss a person who knows it's just going to be a one-time thing for fun and nothing more. I don't want to kiss them if they think it means something because then I'd have to break their heart and that sucks too.

So yeah, I'm kind of a one night stand kinda person, so that's exactly why I avoid drunk parties and that stuff to protect myself from STDs :] Hey, if you're never there, it can never happen.

[Eugine]

Maz, everyone has those desires. What makes us different is that some of us can and cannot control those desires, or logically think things through.

Everyone wants to have sex. Come on, it's natural. The fact that some of us understand the consequences of doing it the wrong way/time is detrimental and is willing to think things through makes us different =)

[Split Infinity]

I think she was using the term 'one night stand' kind of loosely.

[Eugine]

Just agree with me for once!

[Split Infinity]

I agree with you, I just think your post was out of place! >=O

[Eugine]

Oh ok. *hugs and kisses* (lol, so gay)

Yow, SoT post a pic of your girlfriend if she allows it, and coz why are you ignoring my question? ;_;

[Someone Else]

You know it's kind of funny that I feel the same way that Maz and kate do. So, all I have to do is find a girl out there who feels pessimistic about relationships and she can be my girlfriend! Hahaha!

[Sea of Time]

.eugine, on Mar 24 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

Oh ok. *hugs and kisses* (lol, so gay)

Yow, SoT post a pic of your girlfriend if she allows it, and coz why are you ignoring my question? ;_;

If you're my friend on Facebook, you can follow the "relationship with" link to see a thumbnail picture.

And surprisingly, WD, that isn't a joke. That actually works.

[Quacnar]

.eugine, what was your question??

[Eugine]

I have no idea why I am not in a relationship. Actually, I do, but I hardly want to divulge why >.o

Actually I do. Most of the time, I become friends with the girls I like, and it's so hard for me to say "I like you" after >.>
I dunno why.

EXPLINATION PLZ?

EDIT:

.eugine, on Mar 21 2008, 07:35 PM, said:

What's your GF like Gio and Caael?
And what's the guy(s) you're interested like Coz?

Coz this.

[Split Infinity]

Probably because it seems like such a corny thing to say. Though I have practically zero experience with girls, so I can't really help.