[My Best Wishes]

It's a crush Toasty. You're in the friend zone, and afraid to pull a move for whatever reasons you have. It's a crush.
Or as I posted before, One-itis. Which just sounds better.
And if you want to get somewhere with this chick, you need to get over here (trust on this) or else the butterfly's in your stomach will just **** it up when you talk to her.
I've been there, and I hate myself when I reflect on it. What a pussy.

[Toasty]

I don't have butterflies in my stomach, and I don't have problems talking to her (though I'm prone to awkward silence whenever I talk to anyone). Does that make it clearer? Heck, I don't her amazingly hot or anything either, so it doesn't have to do with looks.

I've had a crush before, I've been infatuated before, I've been smitten, and I've liked someone before. This falls into none of those categories.

I know I'll beat myself up if I never get around to saying anything. But like I said before, saying anything right now would be a pretty bad move.

[Eugine]

I've had numerous crushes, and there are times when I didn't have butterflies in my stomach or problems talking to the girl...
Unfortunately, those crushes died easily though xP. I just found better people to focus on.

[Split Infinity]

If you don't get any sort of rush from being with her, then what makes her so special?

[Toasty]

That's the thing. I don't know what it is. I just feel compelled to be with her.

[Split Infinity]

You're weird. XD

[Ironsight]

Stalker.

[Toasty]

I know. :)

My mommy always said I was special.

[My Best Wishes]

Toasty, on Jul 10 2008, 07:58 PM, said:

I don't have butterflies in my stomach, and I don't have problems talking to her (though I'm prone to awkward silence whenever I talk to anyone). Does that make it clearer? Heck, I don't her amazingly hot or anything either, so it doesn't have to do with looks.

I've had a crush before, I've been infatuated before, I've been smitten, and I've liked someone before. This falls into none of those categories.

I know I'll beat myself up if I never get around to saying anything. But like I said before, saying anything right now would be a pretty bad move.

If there's nothing between you and no feelings on your side, why the 'awkward silence' then?
The girl I'm into now makes me feel alot different when I'm around compared to the last one I dated.

You can tell me to **** off if you want. No hard feelings.

[Toasty]

Well how exactly does she make you feel?

The awkward silence stems from my general lack of conversational skills. :) It applies to pretty much every conversation I have with anyone in real life. I'll strike up a conversation, and then after a while it'll hit a dead end. I suppose maybe I should end the conversation before then? :)

I like this girl a lot. Don't get me wrong. I just don't know why. I feel like I'm connected to her somehow, I guess.

[Ironsight]

Is she hot?

[Toasty]

Not drop dead, but she's definately easy to look at imo. But sex appeal is closer to the bottom of my list.

[Split Infinity]

I think you'd be surprised. Would you honestly go out with a giant, greasy girl with stomach rolls, rotten teeth and a double chin if she had a good personality? :)

[Caael]

Exactly Split. Cant remember who said this, but it's a good quote.

"A personality doesn't draw your eye from across the street"

[Drizzy Drake]

In that case, of looks don't matter to you, you'd date a guy if he had the right personality?

[Caael]

No, quite the opposite.

And i'm not gay.
I would never go out with somebody just because they're a great person. As split said, if they're some greasy fat munter, then **** no. She's got to be at least plausible.

[kate]

Okay boys of the internet, help me out.

I keep creating problems in my relationship. I mean, he's a great guy, and yeah he can be juvenile at times, but he's a man sooo kinda guaranteed to happen. You guys actually started our latest fight XD Something about animals rights and apparently he used to hunt for funsies. Anyways, he said he'd never talk about it again and that's fine right. But earlier he was asking me to say nice things about him and I'm like "why" because I don't like being put on the spot and he's like "well you never compliment me, you always just insult me in your sarcastic way" which I do but I'm playing because sarcasm is...me. So my first reaction is "wow what a girl" but then I think about how much he compliments me and how insecure I would be if he didn't, so I try to compliment him more often, but he brings up the same thing on our most recent phone call. So I'm like...dammit I've been trying, so he apologizes, even though he shouldn't have to, but I'm still left thinking. I don't know why, but I'm just thinking. So I have two theories: One, this is the first relationship in a long time that's actually been going well (in the sense that I haven't lost interest or whatever) and I'm afraid I'm going to sabotage it so I...sabotage it in defense? The second is that he doesn't say the right things. Like you know how girls have this idea of how conversations should go and how guys should respond to certain things? Well when I was in a bad mood I told him I'm going to call him back in a bit and hang up. 10 minutes later I phone back expecting him to say "wow I was so worried blablabla" instead he's like "it's a good thing you phoned I was about to fall asleep". Not paticularly wrong, he was just trying to lighten the situation, but still kinda irked me. Of course I realize that my wild expectations can't be applied to him but still at the end of the day I don't know what to do. Sooo...tell me something.

tl;dr: read it you lazy asses. And don't type while drunk.

[Caael]

Give him compliments? There's not really much you can do in a situation like that, so just make sure every time you phone him or talk to him just comment on his outfit or hair or something. We dont ask for much :P

[Someone Else]

How can she compliment his looks when she's talking over the phone? =O

kate, what's the question again? XD

Meh:

1.) Drop the expectations. It's a natural thing for girls to be naive and insane with expectations, but the sooner you learn this (if you haven't already) the better it is. Expectations only lead to disappointment.

and 2.) just dish out the compliments! It gets easier over time. At least it is for me now. But then, complimenting a girl is different than complimenting a guy so idk.

[Caael]

Wind Dude, on Jul 14 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

How can she compliment his looks when she's talking over the phone? =O

Compliment his voice?

Tell him how much she liked his hair when they last met up?

[Drizzy Drake]

i'm druwnk. ha. you suki kayte.



Naw, I'm just fucking with you.

[Toasty]

Split Infinity, on Jul 11 2008, 05:23 AM, said:

I think you'd be surprised. Would you honestly go out with a giant, greasy girl with stomach rolls, rotten teeth and a double chin if she had a good personality? :P

Obviously, I wouldn't go out with a girl who I thought was ugly. However, I'd be happy with one who wasn't hot too.

I wouldn't think twice about dumping a girl who was either obsessed with herself, a drama junkie, or just plain stupid.

The girl I like doesn't fit into any of those three categories. But since I've known her for a while, and she's not too bad looking either, I've gotten to know what her personality's like.

[kate]

Really though, if you're attracted to a person, you'll find them physically appealing whether they are by society's standards or not. If you don't, then you'll never be able to escape that obstacle in the relationship and it will be your undoing.

Compliments...right. See just whatever I say always sounds cheesy or really bad timing or whatever. Girls are so easy for it, just call them pretty. And see that's the thing, I compliment my girl friends all the time, but when I call him cute he takes it as an insult to his manhood or something o.O it's not my fault he's adorable.

[Toasty]

kate, on Jul 13 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

Really though, if you're attracted to a person, you'll find them physically appealing whether they are by society's standards or not. If you don't, then you'll never be able to escape that obstacle in the relationship and it will be your undoing.

Compliments...right. See just whatever I say always sounds cheesy or really bad timing or whatever. Girls are so easy for it, just call them pretty. And see that's the thing, I compliment my girl friends all the time, but when I call him cute he takes it as an insult to his manhood or something o.O it's not my fault he's adorable.

Well yeah. I personally think she's beautiful. But there's obviously other girls who I think look hotter. However, I'm not looking for someone who's hot, I'm looking for someone who'm I think looks beautiful, and has a personality I find appealing.

As for your compliment to your friend, it depends on the guy. Usually the guy's who would take it as a compliment are the more sensitive types, and the ones who wouldn't are the more macho types.

[Split Infinity]

I reckon you could try starting it out as a little joke, and then see if you can make a passive transition to being serious, so it doesn't seem too awkward.

[Toasty]

Yeah, that'd be the way to go, but I don't quite know how to pass it off as a joke. =\

[Split Infinity]

I was talking to Kate, I don't know where your post came from. o_o

[Toasty]

Well it apllies in either case, so there. :P

[My Best Wishes]

Toasty, on Jul 11 2008, 08:05 PM, said:

Well how exactly does she make you feel?

The last girl I liked and briefly dated at the start I was really nervous. I couldn't open a conversation with her for awhile, my good mate had to do it for me. I couldn't even ask for a ride home from his girl, while my friend had to. I was a total chump, I reflect on myself and I just can't help but cringe.
Whereas the girl that I'm into now is totally different. I can talk to her easy as, bag her out whatever. But I don't feel any pressure to ask her out like the last one (even though she likes me, what the **** right)
I kinda lost track of what I'm saying and what I meant to say so...

Kate
1- So your boyfriend feels what, insecure? What you described sounds like clingy, needy behavior. Just compliment him on his dress, does he have a nice belt or shirt? Did his hair well today? Or just compliment him on something he does well. Does he drive well or pick up the bill?
You could also remind him that he's, well a guy. He shouldn't need constant reassurance from his girlfriend
2- He's a guy. We think logically, not with our emotions.
This story that GL posted should explain it better then I can.

[kate]

lol it's okay toasty, I thought he was talking to you too.

I tried something like that split when I called him just now. I just always sound so sarcastic I don't know if he gets it even when I'm being serious. So instead I sound like I'm patronizing him XD

@watch: Yeah it happens in most of my relationships, he ends up being the needy one (emotional, clingy etc...basically the girl) and I'm the one who wants alone time and to not talk about our feelings (ie the guy). But he's actually really different most of the time, he just has this one little area. Apparently his last gf called him nonstop and was really clingy, so he takes me not being clingy as me not liking him. For the most part we've dealt with that, I just need to stop being so damn sarcastic.

[My Best Wishes]

He sounds alot like one of my sisters ex's. He didn't last long on account of him wanting 100 calls a day and my sister not being a dumb peroxide Barbie. He was also so hung up on the titles 'boyfriend' and 'girlfriend'. That 'Emo Song' that came out a few years ago actually had a good line.
Girls keep breaking up with me...
They say they already have a pussy,
they don't need another one
Why do you have to stop being sarcastic? Doesn't he respond to humor.

[Toasty]

Sarcasm is the best source of humor in my opinion, but if someone's always sarcastic, or always jokng around, it's hard to take them seriously. Sometimes, people need to be taken seriously. That's what she means, I think.

Though really, I think he should know you well enough to know when you're joking and when you aren't. :P

[kate]

lol watch, trust me, that's what I was afraid of, but he's not like that. Then again I've dealt with some real clingy guys, so maybe he's just macho in comparison.

toasty, you're right, but even as I say it I sound sarcastic to myself. Like tone wise. Just if I try anything else it sounds so lame. Anyways I just called him again and complimented him even though it made me sound like a dork, so I hope he appreciates it XD

[Toasty]

Well if he's your boyfriend, he should appreciate anything you do for him. At least, I would appreciate anything my girlfriend would do for me, if I had one.

Afterall, if it wasn't ment to be appreciated, then the boyfriend/girlfriend wouldn't be doing it in the first place, or they probably wouldn't (want to) be boyfriend/girlfriend with the person they were doing something for. Am I correct?

[Split Infinity]

Er...you'd have to be pretty emo if you went out with somone just to be 'appreciated'.

[Toasty]

Slit, that's not what I meant. If two people really like eachother, shouldn't they appreciate what the other one does for them? If they don't, then how can they really say that they care for the person?

I'm not saying that you should only go out with someone who will appreciate you (though obviously that' a plus), but if they really like you, wouldn't they appreciate what you do for them?

It's more of something that comes into play after a relationship has started, rather than a basis for starting a relationship.

Honestly, even if the girl I like didn't appreciate anything I did for her, I'd still love her and appreciate anything she did for me. But that's just me, and according to most of your standards, I'm crazy. :P

[zedamus]

When you love someone... take 4 steps back and think if thats really love you feel, because most likely its not... just whats hot in the streets for you right now.

read that somewhere.. its kinda true and funny.

[Someone Else]

Laharl, on May 11 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

okay twatmouths, time to make yourselves useful.

So she calls me. I had a little bit of a hard time making out what she was saying because she was crying a lot, but here's the gist of it:

She had been trying to call her bf all day, but then when she was out having lunch with her mom he saw him with another girl. He's supposed to be grounded. He saw her and he waved. She calls him later (I THINK, again, it was hard to make out what she was saying here) and he tells her that they were all at a peer advocate meeting (sort of a peer counselor thing) but she doesn't believe him, and from what she told me, I don't either.

That's when she called me, she didn't know who else to talk to. I didn't really know what to say. I've defended him a few other times with similar, but 100% smaller things but he really screwed up this time. I don't want to defend him, but I can't exactly just agree either. That wouldn't make things any better.

Later, she sends me a text saying that he's been trying to call her but she's ignoring him. I can't blame her. He ignored a bunch of her calls except when he finally got caught. I sent a text back but I haven't gotten a reply, so I think she finally decided to pick up on his calls.

:(

[Caael]

Sooo... why did you quote laharl?

[kate]

He thinks we should make ourselves useful. And that we're twatmouths.

wd, I'm afraid I've gotta side with the boy. Or at least I think she's going to. I've been in the situation before and unless you're not telling us some part of it, it seems like a perfectly valid situation. He's grounded, so his phone gets taken away, or he's not near it, or it's off or on silent (mine's always on silent so I miss pretty much every phone call lol). He's allowed to go out because his peer advocate thing isn't exactly like going out to a party (just like when you're grounded you can still go to school). He sees her, and waves. That's really what convinces me he's genuine, if he were on a date with another girl, there would be no waving, because he'd probably hope she didn't see him, and want to avoid explaining to the girl he's with who that other chick is. He then ponders how his gf must have perceived the situation, so he tries to call her alot to reassure her, but she's not hearing it. So he keeps calling, because he cares, not because he thinks he's been found out. All makes sense to me. Then again he could be a peevy scumbag, but since she's his gf, she's probably gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and go with his story. On your part, I would just be mad at him while she's mad at him, then be happy with him when she's happy with him. Never defend him if she's pissed, and never dis him if she's happy. Always take her side.

tl;dr agree with the girl, but don't get your hopes up that this is splitsville or something.

[Someone Else]

Had had his phone. That's fact. He just didn't pick it up. His mom did try to take the phone from him but he talked her out of it.

Anyhoo, apparently they planned this peer advocate thing for months but he didn't tell her (and for some reason wouldn't pick up) because she hates the peer advocates. I don't really like them either. They're stuck-ups and elitists who are supposed to help other students, but they're very... exclusive. For example, this party thing was for advocates only. She'd like to go, but it's supposed to be them and only them. There's a bunch of other stuff about them too, but I won't go into it so just take my word for it when I say they're elitist.

Anyway, whatever way you slice it he still lied to her, and she's still a bit upset.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Jul 13 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

He didn't last long on account of him wanting 100 calls a day and my sister not being a dumb peroxide Barbie.

Your sister sounds like the opposite of mine. I was upstairs getting some tape the other day, my mom asked my sister if she was sick. My sister replied that she just wasn't wearing any make-up.

[My Best Wishes]

kate, on Aug 13 2008, 11:06 AM, said:

He thinks we should make ourselves useful. And that we're twatmouths.

wd, I'm afraid I've gotta side with the boy. Or at least I think she's going to. I've been in the situation before and unless you're not telling us some part of it, it seems like a perfectly valid situation. He's grounded, so his phone gets taken away, or he's not near it, or it's off or on silent (mine's always on silent so I miss pretty much every phone call lol). He's allowed to go out because his peer advocate thing isn't exactly like going out to a party (just like when you're grounded you can still go to school). He sees her, and waves. That's really what convinces me he's genuine, if he were on a date with another girl, there would be no waving, because he'd probably hope she didn't see him, and want to avoid explaining to the girl he's with who that other chick is. He then ponders how his gf must have perceived the situation, so he tries to call her alot to reassure her, but she's not hearing it. So he keeps calling, because he cares, not because he thinks he's been found out. All makes sense to me. Then again he could be a peevy scumbag, but since she's his gf, she's probably gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and go with his story. On your part, I would just be mad at him while she's mad at him, then be happy with him when she's happy with him. Never defend him if she's pissed, and never dis him if she's happy. Always take her side.

tl;dr agree with the girl, but don't get your hopes up that this is splitsville or something.

Agreed.
He saw his girlfriend while he was with another girl and waved. He didn't go red or turn away or hide or stammer or anything, he waved and kept going because he had a meeting.
Sorry but I think she's making something out of nothing.
And of course he didn't pick up his phone if he was at some elitest club.

[Someone Else]

It was a PARTY. An irrelevant get-together. He was being a jerk.

[Golden Legacy]

When our eyes met, I knew it was the moment.

Everything about her was perfect. The sparkle in her smile, the adorable face, the heavenly voice. There could be no other girl in the world but her, I knew it would be her. Such beauty, such sincerity. The angelic face of heaven itself.


Then she looked away from the camera on television.

[Split Infinity]

WD, maybe she should just try talking to him? For all we know he might have had a good reason for what he did. A relationship is never going to work if there's some cold war running between the two of you, and when you start ignoring them on purpose that pretty much says you don't give two ****s about what they think.

[Ironsight]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 13 2008, 01:13 AM, said:

When our eyes met, I knew it was the moment.

Everything about her was perfect. The sparkle in her smile, the adorable face, the heavenly voice. There could be no other girl in the world but her, I knew it would be her. Such beauty, such sincerity. The angelic face of heaven itself.
Then she looked away from the camera on television.

Are you still going on about the Chinese' Olympics opening ceremony?

[Someone Else]

Split Infinity, on Aug 13 2008, 01:30 AM, said:

WD, maybe she should just try talking to him? For all we know he might have had a good reason for what he did. A relationship is never going to work if there's some cold war running between the two of you, and when you start ignoring them on purpose that pretty much says you don't give two ****s about what they think.

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Anyhoo, apparently they planned this peer advocate thing for months but he didn't tell her (and for some reason wouldn't pick up) because she hates the peer advocates. I don't really like them either. They're stuck-ups and elitists who are supposed to help other students, but they're very... exclusive. For example, this party thing was for advocates only. She'd like to go, but it's supposed to be them and only them. There's a bunch of other stuff about them too, but I won't go into it so just take my word for it when I say they're elitist.

Anyway, whatever way you slice it he still lied to her, and she's still a bit upset.

I guess I should have stated it more obviously that she picked up eventually.


So I'll try looking at the events through her eyes, since you guys don't seem to be doing that:

You wake up, late-morningish. Call your bf like usual. It goes through but you're met with voice mail at the end. Weird. Whatever. A half hour later you try again a few times and he still doesn't pick up. Strangeness. You and your mom go out to lunch, but on the way you see your bf WITH ANOTHER GIRL. He sees you and he waves, but you think this might be a cover. She's in the peer advocates like him, though. So you try calling some other peer advocates you know, but they don't pick up. (I forgot to mention that part)

So things are looking bad here. I'll reiterate the facts, your bf's phone was definitely on but he just wasn't picking up. Numerous calls and texts. You see him with another girl, might be some party but the supposed party mates didn't pick up. So what can you think? You worry, which leads to bad thoughts, which leads to calling me, apparently.

[Split Infinity]

Which equals instant-cheating-omfg-he-doesnt-love-me-anymore? There's practically a million reasons why someone wouldn't answer their phone, and an equal number of reasons why you would meet with another person regardless of gender.

It doesn't seem like very solid ground for suspicion, especially if she hasn't had the chance to catch up with him yet.

[Drizzy Drake]

Bitch needs to shut up and stop asking questions.

[Someone Else]

Split Infinity, on Aug 13 2008, 02:33 PM, said:

Which equals instant-cheating-omfg-he-doesnt-love-me-anymore? There's practically a million reasons why someone wouldn't answer their phone, and an equal number of reasons why you would meet with another person regardless of gender.

It doesn't seem like very solid ground for suspicion, especially if she hasn't had the chance to catch up with him yet.

I really don't think you're considering everything I've said. He's supposed to be grounded. I'll agree, she jumped the gun a bit too fast, but I can't blame her either. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing, like you always seem to do.

[kate]

er wd, I really hate to say this, but the other peer advocates not picking up indicates that they probably weren't allowed to during the meeting, party, whatever, giving the bf a completely legitimate reason not to pick up. Or maybe it was on silent like I said before, just like my phone always is. Ok, to some degree she has a right to be jealous, but only to some small degree, and only until he explains himself. He did explain himself and she didn't believe it/didn't answer his calls, which says to me that she is creating drama. Whatever, girls are allowed to create drama, but it is lame and it means in the end she'll go back to being super happy with him because she knows she was wrong.

But you're doing what's right, you should be looking at this through her eyes. But don't try and convince us she's right, because I guarantee you that to some degree, even she knows she's not.

[Someone Else]

Should I put it in bold that he's grounded?

[Split Infinity]

Maybe he snuck out, like most teenagers do?

[Someone Else]

That would only make her madder because he didn't go to see her.

Which, leads to the reaction she had. You getting why she was and still is a little upset now?

[Split Infinity]

Even still, 'grounded' can mean a lot of different things. My parents usually just take stuff out of my room when they ground me. Heck, maybe his parents took his phone away and that's why he couldn't get to it.

[Someone Else]

*facepalm*

I already said, he had his phone with him. That's fact. And in this case it just means he's not allowed out of the house.

[Split Infinity]

Alright, then maybe he snuck out. What's the problem? You're allowed to do other things than be with your sweetheart 24/7. He was probably busy with other stuff because he knew he'd be seeing her at school.

[Someone Else]

Forget it, Split. Forget it...

So they're "okay" for now, but things look shaky. And she doesn't see me as anymore than an extremely close friend. Which is a sort of a mixed feeling.

Everything's been a little weird. I like her a hell of a lot, a bit more than I think I should considering there probably isn't much chance to ever be with her that way.

Does anyone know a cure for this? (besides Split)

[Split Infinity]

Gee, thanks... :/

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Aug 14 2008, 01:25 AM, said:

Forget it, Split. Forget it...

So they're "okay" for now, but things look shaky. And she doesn't see me as anymore than an extremely close friend. Which is a sort of a mixed feeling.

Everything's been a little weird. I like her a hell of a lot, a bit more than I think I should considering there probably isn't much chance to ever be with her that way.

Does anyone know a cure for this? (besides Split)

Murde-- I mean...

Not really. It's one of those things you just can't really get out of your head. You think you've gotten rid of it and then you see her on the way home and the feeling comes rushing back and you know you shouldn't have it because you already... And let's not ramble about that shall we?

[Caael]

Just let it sort out itself- if you get too actively involved then people will start relying on you to solve their problems as well. It's their lives, they can sort it out. If she breaks up with him, good for you, you have a chance, and if not, well they stay together and you're still friends. It seems she's relying on you to sort this out, which she shouldn't because its her problem.

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Aug 14 2008, 01:25 AM, said:

Forget it, Split. Forget it...

So they're "okay" for now, but things look shaky. And she doesn't see me as anymore than an extremely close friend. Which is a sort of a mixed feeling.

Everything's been a little weird. I like her a hell of a lot, a bit more than I think I should considering there probably isn't much chance to ever be with her that way.

Does anyone know a cure for this? (besides Split)

You seem to be in a failry similar boat as me.

I used to think I loved her, but for some time just being a really close friend seems like the better decision. I'm kind of on the borderline between the two. When I think about what it would be like to be with her, something just doesn't fit. When I think about what it would be like to be a really close friend, being her boyfriend/whatever seems so much nicer.

Anyway, since you're close friends my quick-fix remedy might not work, but I just keep my mind on other things. Other than that, the point in time will come where you'll be given a choice of a cure, it'll be thrust upon you, or you'll just get over it. Whichever one it is will become apparent as that point in time comes closer.

I have this to say though: Don't be the one who decides if/when they break up, but if/when they do, make your decision then and stick with it. If it turns out you made the wrong one, then learn from it and be done with it. But if life gives you a second chance, then make the right one. As long as you keep you learn from your mistakes but don't dwell on them, you be wiser and happier. That goes for more than just relationships too.

Though as for the situation with her boyfriend, I'd say that either he lied to her and now things are okay because she believes it, or it's the truth that it was just an aquaintance and a party. I've also noticed that women are far more prone to be drama-junky-ish then men, and drama junkies are the ones who usually draw the "zomg he/she's cheating" conclusion. Not saying that that's never the right conclusion, but that's probably one reason why she drew that one. Though they're your friends, so you should be able to tell what the situation is better than we can.
If I were in her situation though, I'd just ask my girlfriend who the guy was and take her word for it. I'd only act on it if I had solid evidence that she was cheating. But that's me.

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Aug 14 2008, 06:25 PM, said:

Forget it, Split. Forget it...

So they're "okay" for now, but things look shaky. And she doesn't see me as anymore than an extremely close friend. Which is a sort of a mixed feeling.

Everything's been a little weird. I like her a hell of a lot, a bit more than I think I should considering there probably isn't much chance to ever be with her that way.

Does anyone know a cure for this? (besides Split)

You'll get over it. The fastest way is to find someone/others that you like and can get with, otherwise, it just takes time.
Just go for it though.

(Don't get all chumpish and infatuated with her though. Cause then you'll just **** it up by elevating her in your mind or you'll just be a chump around her and goof it up)

[Someone Else]

The thing is, at the moment she seems to be the girl I'm most compatible with. The other thing is though, we've been friends since we were about 7 years old but we never really talked or anything. We just hanged out in the same group. And since 6th grade we've barely been in contact until High School, and then we picked things up fast and now we're closer than ever. So I'm not worried about being chumpish, I know how to act around her.

So we're really close. She once said I'm the closest thing she has to a sibling. She even offered for us to live in an apartment together during our college years because her boyfriend still thinks he should with his mom, just like his brother. (what a loser) This isn't going to happen though, because she just learned her bf has a huge jealous streak.

See why I don't think I really have a chance with her, even if she's single? She just trusts me, almost too much.

I guess I shouldn't give up hope altogether, because last time we were alone for an extended period (which was at an anime and video game convention) we ended up flirting a little. She felt "bad" when we were talking about it after the con, and we just chalked it up to being bored since the con was a bit lame, but even so it could mean something.

[kate]

Don't give up hope, so many girls fall for their best guy friend. However if you start resenting her for not sharing your feelings (I'm not saying you do, I'm saying it could happen), that is when you have to say something. Immediately.

Honestly I think the best thing to do is go on one date with someone else. Or talk about someone like you like them. Right now she's really comfortable, because she has bf and you. She doesn't even have to think about the true nature of her feelings for you. So start talking about someone else, or go on a single date with someone (don't get a gf, that will just make her lose hope), just enough so she thinks the opportunity to be with you is slipping away. Then she'll have to confront how she really feels about you, plus good ol' jealousy will help out. You won't notice it, obviously, since she's a girl, but it will get her thinking.

Getting over it won't happen while you're this close to her. Never has for me anyways.

[Caael]

So i'm debating whether or not i ask this girl out tomorrow or do I bide my time. Halp plx

[Split Infinity]

Well, how close are you?

[Caael]

Uh, pretty close, only started like really talking to her and getting close in the past few weeks.

[Split Infinity]

Well then go ahead, sounds like fair game.

[Caael]

Me being me, i'll probably duck out at the last second and then just avoid her for ages, dropping subtle hints just to see if she feels the same :(

[Split Infinity]

That's the plan...

[Caael]

It'll probably work. Depends how i feel tomorrow.

[My Best Wishes]

kate, on Aug 16 2008, 06:52 AM, said:

Don't give up hope, so many girls fall for their best guy friend. However if you start resenting her for not sharing your feelings (I'm not saying you do, I'm saying it could happen), that is when you have to say something. Immediately.

Honestly I think the best thing to do is go on one date with someone else. Or talk about someone like you like them. Right now she's really comfortable, because she has bf and you. She doesn't even have to think about the true nature of her feelings for you. So start talking about someone else, or go on a single date with someone (don't get a gf, that will just make her lose hope), just enough so she thinks the opportunity to be with you is slipping away. Then she'll have to confront how she really feels about you, plus good ol' jealousy will help out. You won't notice it, obviously, since she's a girl, but it will get her thinking.

Getting over it won't happen while you're this close to her. Never has for me anyways.

Kate's got a fair point, by doing something with someone else will open her eyes to how you won't stay around for her forever, and if there is something there then it'll make her think.
Kate seems to give good advice, probably cause she's a girl and knows all the tricks :rolleyes:

Caael, just do it. If you honestly know in your head that you have a chance, then you actually do.

[Caael]

But I dont know if i've got a chance, thats the thing. I know I like her, but I have no idea how she feels about me. Meh, i'll give it more time.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Aug 16 2008, 02:29 AM, said:

But I dont know if i've got a chance, thats the thing. I know I like her, but I have no idea how she feels about me. Meh, i'll give it more time.

Welcome to my world in Grade...9/10? One of the two.

[kate]

k. lol caael, just ask before you torture yourself over it. You are fortunate though, most girls notice subtle hints easier than guys (not to stereotype, just in my experience). With guys it's so difficult to hint that you like them. I've had guys that I'd been giving hints to for weeks, and not so subtle ones, and when I finally told them I liked them they were like "really? oh wow I like you too, I wish you had told me" GRR.

[Drizzy Drake]

Aha. We just do that to fuck with your minds. Trust me, I'm a guy, I know what we do.

[kate]

<.< Then I'm confused. Seems weird that a guy who liked me and knew I liked him wouldn't tell me so. Maybe he didn't really like me. *gasp* MAYBE MY LIFE IS ALL A LIE!!! *sobs*

[Caael]

Lol, my negativity was right. She said she needed more time to think about it, so at the moment the glass is half empty.

[Nosferatu]

See? Thinking the negative way always works. I don't get why more people don't.

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Aug 17 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

<.< Then I'm confused. Seems weird that a guy who liked me and knew I liked him wouldn't tell me so. Maybe he didn't really like me. *gasp* MAYBE MY LIFE IS ALL A LIE!!! *sobs*

cake

[kate]

If she needs time to think about it the relationship won't last. Sorry I'm being pessimistic today, but really if she's not jumping for joy that you like her, there's trouble ahead. It might just be she doesn't know you well enough though. Whatever.

Hey how do you know when to break up with someone?

[Drizzy Drake]

why, u breaking up with mr. murder(23...the movie....c wut i did thur?) ?

[kate]

er ok, you're crazy, and yes, yes I am.

It started somewhere around him irrationally swearing at me and ended with him trying to keep me by telling me he loved me and buying me things. Now I just need to give him back his stuff and then BLAMMO, I'm a bachelor again :rolleyes:

...I mean bachelorette <.< >.>

[Nosferatu]

kate, on Aug 17 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

er ok, you're crazy, and yes, yes I am.

It started somewhere around him irrationally swearing at me and ended with him trying to keep me by telling me he loved me and buying me things. Now I just need to give him back his stuff and then BLAMMO, I'm a bachelor again :rolleyes:

...I mean bachelorette <.< >.>

Yeah that's a pretty lame apology. I've done better. Unfortunantly. *sigh*

And I've never gotten that. Why do most couples always leave stuff at the other's house?

[Someone Else]

Dipset, on Aug 17 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

Aha. We just do that to fuck with your minds. Trust me, I'm a guy, I know what we do.

that

[kate]

oh I borrowed some dvds that he had because I wanted to watch them. That's all I have of his, I dunno though, he bought me some presents, do you think he expects those back when we break up?

[Nosferatu]

If he did he'd be one horrible boyfriend. Or well, ex-boyfriend.

[kate]

lol well I'm not breaking up with him because he's bunnies and sunshine

[Nosferatu]

You're way too happy for my tastes.

Also I'm confused now.

[Toasty]

Bunnies and Sunshine Nos. That's all you need to know.Bunnies and Sunshine Nos. That's all you need to know.

[My Best Wishes]

kate, on Aug 18 2008, 10:46 AM, said:

With guys it's so difficult to hint that you like them. I've had guys that I'd been giving hints to for weeks, and not so subtle ones, and when I finally told them I liked them they were like "really? oh wow I like you too, I wish you had told me" GRR.

Because girl's 'subtle' hints aren't really hints when they're flirty to everyone, you should think about this from a guys point of view, it's confusing.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Aug 18 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

Because girl's 'subtle' hints aren't really hints when they're flirty to everyone, you should think about this from a guys point of view, it's confusing.

Last time I checked that was actually the point I think.

[My Best Wishes]

Why does it feel like no one actually reads each other's posts today.

I said subtle hints don't work when it comes to a flirty girl. As in a flirty girl needs to give not as subtle hints to a guy she likes when she has a flirty personallity.

[Caael]

Like making it really blatant that she likes him, I understand what watch means.

And kate, only give the stuff back if he asks for it. You can never have too much free stuff :rolleyes:

Yeah, buit i'm really not bothered about my situation. I mean, if it works out, then great, but if not, I dont really care either.

[kate]

k well then good for you, I wish I could be that laid back about the people I like.

Y'know I never actually thought about it being confusing because of girls that are all around flirtatious. I guess that's my problem when I like more than one guy at a time.

meanwhile: fsck men. Not you guys, you don't count. I've decided I'm gonna go ahead and let him break up with me, partly because it will mean a cleaner break, and partly because I'm scared of what he'll do if I dump him.

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Aug 18 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

k well then good for you, I wish I could be that laid back about the people I like.

Y'know I never actually thought about it being confusing because of girls that are all around flirtatious. I guess that's my problem when I like more than one guy at a time.

meanwhile: fsck men. Not you guys, you don't count. I've decided I'm gonna go ahead and let him break up with me, partly because it will mean a cleaner break, and partly because I'm scared of what he'll do if I dump him.

Pussy. Be a man and dump his ass.

[My Best Wishes]

So you're going to be a **** girlfriend until he dumps you? You sure you're not my sister? :rolleyes:

[Someone Else]

Do you know if that's going to work? Because from what you've told us he sounds sort of codependent.

So she's said she's determined in getting me a girlfriend. Or at least a date. Cripes.

[My Best Wishes]

Shoulda said you wanted one with her.

[Someone Else]

Lulz, I sort of wish I could say that. It wouldn't work at this point, as what with the problems she's having with her boyfriend and/or trying to fix things, the last thing she needs is another dude hitting on her. She needs a friend, I guess.

I'm probably going to have to say that one day, though. Dunno how long I can keep up the "we'll see" and "I'm not interested in anyone right now". (really hate saying that last one as it's such a lie)

[kate]

Yeah don't say that last one ever if you want her to think about you other than a friend. Also, DO EET. Date someone, anyone, she probably tries to hook you up to cover up her own insecurities.

Ok I don't mean I'm scared of breaking up with him because I don't want to break his heart. I mean I'm scared of breaking up with him because I'm scared of him. He gets really emotional and physical when he's upset. Buuut he has until the end of the week and then it's done.

And then I'm going to turn gay because men are pretty much girls anyways.

[Someone Else]

Yes, do that. I personally wouldn't blame women if they all decided to turn lesbian. Us guys really suck.

[My Best Wishes]

I don't suck...

Kate- That actually sounds quite dangerous, was he like that at the start? Just bring a guyfriend along with you or do it in a group.

[Someone Else]

Anyway, she reeeaaallly wants to make things work with her bf. I kinda didn't want to say this part because you guys would all criticize her, but remember how I said her bf was going to go take senior year at the community college? It looks like she stopped/talked him out from doing that. =(

[Mallick]

watch, on Aug 18 2008, 07:33 PM, said:

So you're going to be a **** girlfriend until he dumps you? You sure you're not my sister? :rolleyes:

You're the one who isn't breaking up with her.

[My Best Wishes]

I'm trying to decide here who's more of a dumb****. You or Skidz, I'm going to go with you seeing as Skidz can't help it.

[Someone Else]

Wind Dude, on Aug 18 2008, 10:15 PM, said:

Anyway, she reeeaaallly wants to make things work with her bf. I kinda didn't want to say this part because you guys would all criticize her, but remember how I said her bf was going to go take senior year at the community college? It looks like she stopped/talked him out from doing that. =(

Any comment?

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Aug 19 2008, 03:15 PM, said:

Anyway, she reeeaaallly wants to make things work with her bf. I kinda didn't want to say this part because you guys would all criticize her, but remember how I said her bf was going to go take senior year at the community college? It looks like she stopped/talked him out from doing that. =(

So she's stopped him from moving schools in his final year of school so she can be with him at school? Control freak considering she thought he was cheating on her not long ago.

You're obivously way hung up about this chick, you like her, she likes you and trusts you, she's in a deteriating relationship. Just do it.

[Someone Else]

She doesn't trust him anymore. I remember her saying that he accidentally went on a date with some chick once. He thought it was just an outing with a friend or something.

He did something that made her no longer trust him.

To me, I don't see why she's still trying so hard with this relationship. I guess it's admirable. She says he isn't what she wants, but he's close. I could say the same thing about her.

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

She doesn't trust him anymore. I remember her saying that he accidentally went on a date with some chick once. He thought it was just an outing with a friend or something.

I had no idea you could accidently go on a date with somebody. *sigh* Why most guys on this planet be born without brains?

At any rate, from the looks of things it doesn't seem like it will last much longer. Just bide your time if you actually want to ask her out or whatever.

[My Best Wishes]

This chick is a total chump. Her boyfriend has completely betrayed her trust, yet she's holding onto him because he's close to what she wants which is thinking in the long term. Why would you think long term about a cheating partner.
Chump. Tell her I said that.

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

She doesn't trust him anymore. I remember her saying that he accidentally went on a date with some chick once. He thought it was just an outing with a friend or something.

He did something that made her no longer trust him.

To me, I don't see why she's still trying so hard with this relationship. I guess it's admirable. She says he isn't what she wants, but he's close. I could say the same thing about her.

Well if you're the only other guy in her life, she might feel a little awkward i it's just the two of you. But only if she sees you as "more than a friend" and is in a slightly similar boat as you. Though I can't say how likely that is. Probably not very, seeing as this other guy is close to what she wants.

I can kinda see why she'd want to be with him though, but that would mean that she's probably either very confused, co-dependant, or really sure of what she wants. Or maybe even something else.

As for her trying to hook you up with someone, ask her who it is and then tell her you're not interested (if you know who it is). It'd be the truth, anyway. If it's someone you don't know, let her hook you up so you can get to know the other person (or make your friend think that you got to know them) and then tell her you're not interested in them.

Or go out with one of them and break up a week later. =P

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Aug 19 2008, 01:01 AM, said:

Yeah don't say that last one ever if you want her to think about you other than a friend. Also, DO EET. Date someone, anyone, she probably tries to hook you up to cover up her own insecurities.

Ok I don't mean I'm scared of breaking up with him because I don't want to break his heart. I mean I'm scared of breaking up with him because I'm scared of him. He gets really emotional and physical when he's upset. Buuut he has until the end of the week and then it's done.

And then I'm going to turn gay because men are pretty much girls anyways.

Bring a guy along with you.

And if you go gay, Tink is living with me, because he doesn't need to see that till he's atleast 5.

watch, on Aug 19 2008, 02:06 AM, said:

I'm trying to decide here who's more of a dumb****. You or Skidz, I'm going to go with you seeing as Skidz can't help it.

HEY!

[kate]

lol, way to defend yourself skippy.

and wd, listen to toasty. It's basically what I was about to say.

watch, you don't know her, you're just trying to bait wd, and she frankly wouldn't care that some guy from the internet called her a chump. And who says chump anymore?

[Drizzy Drake]

kate, on Aug 19 2008, 01:35 PM, said:

lol, way to defend yourself skippy.

and wd, listen to toasty. It's basically what I was about to say.

watch, you don't know her, you're just trying to bait wd, and she frankly wouldn't care that some guy from the internet called her a chump. And who says chump anymore?

Dude, pull a Beyonce, and gtfo on your left
If you're a Gucci watch then I'm a ****ing Rolex

And chump is so 90's.

[My Best Wishes]

kate, on Aug 20 2008, 03:35 AM, said:

watch, you don't know her, you're just trying to bait wd, and she frankly wouldn't care that some guy from the internet called her a chump. And who says chump anymore?

Yes I am. He's posting the same stuff about this girl and how he feels. If what he's posted is accurate then this chick does like him, and her current boyfriend shouldn't last much longer. I realise she wouldn't care what I say, I don't really think WD would tell her anything we say, why would he bring up a bunch of internet people offering advice and perspectives?
And chump is awsome. Try and think of a better word that describes someone who is a loser/fustrated/ignorant/akward etc.

Also I'd think about the 'date someone for a week' thing. Yes it does show the girl you have options and people are more attracted to what they can't have, but, if she were to hook you up with a chick and you dump her after a week, what message will that send to the girl you like about how long a relationship with you would last?
I'm not saying don't do it, doing a takeaway is one of the best things you can do to get the attention you need, but just think about it.

Dipset, on Aug 20 2008, 04:33 AM, said:

If you're a Gucci watch then I'm a ****ing Rolex

And chump is so 90's.

I'd rather be a Guess watch...
And don't pretend like you don't like the attention Skidz.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Aug 19 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

Try and think of a better word that describes someone who is a loser/fustrated/ignorant etc.

Moron, dip****, dumbass, idiot...

The list goes on and on.

[My Best Wishes]

Chump is better.
Love the word Pejorative now aswell.
Words and phrases are pejorative if they imply disapproval or contempt. When used as an adjective, pejorative is synonymous with derogatory, derisive, dyslogistic, and contemptuous. When used as a noun, pejorative means "a belittling or disparaging word or expression".

[Toasty]

I'm going with Nos on this one.

kate, on Aug 19 2008, 10:35 AM, said:

and wd, listen to toasty. It's basically what I was about to say.

Wow. I was gonna tell him to listen to what you had to say first. XD

[kate]

Stalker boyfriend is stalking me.

[Nosferatu]

What's all this creepy nonsense?

[Toasty]

Exactly what it sounds like.

Her stalking boyfriend is stalking her.

Creepy.

Hire a bodygurad Kate. Preferably a big black guy named Bruce.

[Lemontime]

I've been having a casual sex relationship for the past week with this one girl from my school..
Life is good..

[Drizzy Drake]

Lemontime, on Aug 21 2008, 08:07 AM, said:

I've been having a casual sex relationship for the past week with this one girl from my school..
Life is good..

Is it a booty call, or are you guys fuck buddies? There's a difference.

[Kuchiyose]

Quote

**** buddies?

Aids sense tingling

[Saturos S.]

Use a condom then. :D

Or I guess you could do 'the test' and check.

[Caael]

No, its not even worth getting the test. They shove a swab up your japeye and its just...eugh.

[Kuchiyose]

Quote

No, its not even worth getting the test. They shove a swab up your japeye and its just...eugh.

ouch, nasty image there XD

[Toasty]

Caael, on Aug 21 2008, 12:33 PM, said:

No, its not even worth getting the test. They shove a swab up your japeye and its just...eugh.

And you know this why?

:D

[kate]

no such thing as casual, no-strings-attached sex with a girl. Enjoy.

[Toasty]

Though I hear that there is such a thing when having sex with men, so you could always try that, Lemon. :D

[Lemontime]

kate, on Aug 22 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

no such thing as casual, no-strings-attached sex with a girl. Enjoy.

You're a girl, you wouldn't understa-.. Oh wait..

Well, yes there is :D

Oh, and we've been like really good friends for like 2 years.. So it's all good..

[Caael]

Toasty, on Aug 22 2008, 01:57 AM, said:

And you know this why?

:D

Our graphics teacher described it in horrible detail on his last day.

[Saturos S.]

Caael, on Aug 22 2008, 12:48 PM, said:

Our graphics teacher described it in horrible detail on his last day.

I'd sue him.

[Caael]

I wouldn't, he was awesome. I swear, he should have gone into stand-up instead of graphics.

[Joek2]

Caael, on Aug 21 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

No, its not even worth getting the test. They shove a swab up your japeye and its just...eugh.

They haven't done that in a while dude. I got tested when I went into Cassidy and Brookeside, they take blood now.

[kate]

lemontime, the fact that she's a good friend makes it worse. I'm only saying this because she'll probably start thinking too much about it in her head, and worrying, and become attached in other ways, then be upset that you're not, then think it's because she's not worth a relationship, then get really bad self esteem. Worst of all is she probably won't tell you any of this because she knows it was supposed to be no-strings-attached. So instead she'll suffer all alone in her own head while you guys continue to have sex and you think it's fantastic but she's in hell.

Or not. I guess there's a first time for everything

[Joek2]

Ya, that does happen alot. Sometimes though, it's JUST a booty call.

[Saturos S.]

And it doesn't count if you pay them. Those are escort girls.

[Joek2]

prolly teh 0nlee thang lenontime iz gnna geet

[Kuchiyose]

NiNj()Rs~

[Toasty]

Lemontime, on Aug 22 2008, 03:16 AM, said:

You're a girl, you wouldn't understa-.. Oh wait..

Well, yes there is :D

Oh, and we've been like really good friends for like 2 years.. So it's all good..

Like Kate said, that makes it worse.

[Lemontime]

Damnit, can't you guys just be jealous and shutup?!

[Toasty]

Why would I be jealouse of someone who's doing something that's going to turn around and bite him in the ass? :D

Besides, I'd rather have a real relationship anyway.

[Lemontime]

Whatever, bible boy >.>

[Toasty]

That's virgin, STD free bible boy to you.

[Caael]

I assume Lemon would use a condom, and you realise every time you have sex you dont automatically get AIDS as you seem to think.

[Split Infinity]

Yeah, the actual odds are incredibly low.

[Toasty]

I'm not stupid, I'm just stating the truth. :D

Seriously though, a condom won't protect you against a good number of STD's. Like genital warts.

[Split Infinity]

No fluid exchange, no STD. You really are stupid...

[Caael]

If they have genital warts, I think you'd notice that and decide against having sex with them anyway.

[Lemontime]

Split's right..
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[kate]

I think an all around wtf is in order

[Joek2]

Lemontime, on Aug 23 2008, 02:27 AM, said:

Damnit, can't you guys just be jealous and shutup?!

Naw, cause I get action almost ever night.

Toasty, on Aug 23 2008, 05:02 AM, said:

That's virgin, STD free bible boy to you.

I'm not a virgin, and I'm STD free. So are most of my friends. It's like saying "DON'T WALK DOWN THE STREET, YOU COULD GET HIT BY A CAR!!!!!"

[Kuchiyose]

If you want love, wear a glove, ja?

[Joek2]

Well, my girl doesn't have an STD, so I ussually don't use a condom, but for other chicks I have.

[Kuchiyose]

Well if you know the person well then, and they don't have STD's then a condom won't be needed to prevent STD's but on the other hand it also used prevents pregnancy but I'm guessing you and your partner are using other methods to prevent pregnancy, if so then have fun basically.

[Joek2]

teh peel

cuming inside a chick without a condom on feels oh soo good.

[Kuchiyose]

Quote

cuming inside a chick without a condom on feels oh soo good.

Too much info Dippy 0_o

[Joek2]

she tuk it up teh @zz 1nce.

edit-pfft, you're 17, don't act like you get scurred about secks talk.

[Kuchiyose]

your fast at responding when it comes to this huh xD

[Joek2]

yup.

PENIS!~!! VAGINAA!! CUMFARTS!!! STUPID FAT FUCKING JEW FACE!!!! sorry, got touretts.

whoever gets the reference gets a cookie.

[Kuchiyose]

Just a cookie?

Your gonna get banned again, so be careful dippy xD

[Saturos S.]

Joek2, on Aug 23 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

she tuk it up teh @zz 1nce.

edit-pfft, you're 17, don't act like you get scurred about secks talk.

Yet the way you tell it, it seems like some thirteen year-old who just learnt about sex is posting it.

[Joek2]

i am 13, remember?

youth semen, duh.,

[kate]

XDDD wow, well done.

Soo my relationship is over. And guess what? He was a total jackass about it. I mean, personally I think there's a certain etiquette to breaking up, and he was just the worst. But whatever, at least he's out of my life.

I would rant more but most of it has to do with my new drawn conclusions as to what men are, and you guys are all men (except wd, nearly forgot) so that wouldn't go so well.

I should date more nerds. They at least appreciate women because they understand how rare it is to get one.

[Nosferatu]

kate, on Aug 23 2008, 03:40 PM, said:

Soo my relationship is over. And guess what? He was a total jackass about it. I mean, personally I think there's a certain etiquette to breaking up, and he was just the worst. But whatever, at least he's out of my life.

I would rant more but most of it has to do with my new drawn conclusions as to what men are, and you guys are all men (except wd, nearly forgot) so that wouldn't go so well.

I should date more nerds. They at least appreciate women because they understand how rare it is to get one.

1. How'd he handle it? I understand it's bad but...
2. Go talk to Sheba for me k thnx. Also WD's a girl?
3. I think that's a ba-zing.

[Someone Else]

Maybe kate should date me seeing how she denies that I am a man XD

[Kuchiyose]

Quote

I should date more nerds. They at least appreciate women because they understand how rare it is to get one.

Quote of the day! lol and you just need to find the right person, at our age is more like trial and error, we get wiser etc etc, so yaa.

[Toasty]

It's not trial and error if you're really smart. <_<

I may have never had a girlfriend before, but I have yet to find anyone who's actually worthwhile to be with that isn't....inaccessible.

So yeah.

Anyway Kate, look at the brightside. You're free to go find someone better than him now. Just get to know them better before becoming bf/gf.

[Caael]

Toasty, at our age it's all about experimentation and finding somebody who fits your personality. If you find yourself going out with a really bubbly person who's to active for you, then obviously their the wrong type. As Kuchi said, it's trial and error.

[Toasty]

Only if you want it to be.

Some people want to get out there and date people, and some people prefer to wait until either a) someone comes along that just clicks with them, or b) they get into college. Whichever comes first.

If you're smart, you'll be able to discern what other people's personalities are like, and so you won't need to go through any trial and error. You'll know before hand. Granted, that's not always possible, but it gets rid of some guess work.

[Lemontime]

BTW I made my last few posts up, nothing happened :S

Saw my ex-gf that moved to a different city today and she went back home tonight, and my lord do I miss her.. I've never felt so separated, this sucks!
So I'm saving for plane tickets, perhaps.. <_<

[Toasty]

Where does she live?

[Lemontime]

Toasty, on Aug 24 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

Where does she live?

10 hours drive away..
In the same city as Split..

[kate]

I'm pretty sure ex was that key word there I was focusing on. You want to buy plane tickets to go visit your ex?

[Golden Legacy]

Cute girl in my Organic Chem class.
Later I'm walking around campus for a bit, and she notices me and comes up to me.
She actually comes over and initiates the conversation, totally caught off-guard. But we introduce ourselves, talk for a bit, and then she invites me to sit down with her for lunch.

Turns out we have a lot in common, both grew up in NYC (both in Flushing, the same area!), and we started to reminisce about a lot of the sights and people back there. We're both the oldest of our siblings, a surprising interest in Eastern European/Middle Eastern politics, same faith and also liberal.

One of the few girls I've met who I feel genuinely interested in talking with, about any subject. Has the substance, open-minded, and also isn't shallow and into her appearance (i.e. no make-up, polish or anything), yet she is still remarkably pretty.

And now we're friends, already sitting together in class and walking together and she's introducing me to her friends.

Damn I love college.


P.S. She's also two years older. <_<

[Caael]

ASK HER OUT

[Kuchiyose]

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I may have never had a girlfriend before, but I have yet to find anyone who's actually worthwhile to be with that isn't....inaccessible.

Same for me and generally I can't be bothered, I'm happy as I am, why spoil it ;)

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Only if you want it to be.

Some people want to get out there and date people, and some people prefer to wait until either a) someone comes along that just clicks with them, or <_< they get into college. Whichever comes first.

If you're smart, you'll be able to discern what other people's personalities are like, and so you won't need to go through any trial and error. You'll know before hand. Granted, that's not always possible, but it gets rid of some guess work.

I've got to be honest i haven't seen many people who actually look at it this way, iv seen more people think this way in this forum then my town xD SO they basically go who they think is pretty, got to be honest image can be deceiving! hence iv actually seen in my town that relation last about 2 weeks since they go on looks and then realizes there got nothing really in common or its just they don't click, I say facepalm xD

GL, you sir have pulled xD

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ASK HER OUT

Too soon! xD

[Lemontime]

kate, on Aug 25 2008, 02:02 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure ex was that key word there I was focusing on. You want to buy plane tickets to go visit your ex?

Yes.
She is really the nicest girl I know in the world, and the most fun to be around..
When we broke up it was cause we never got to see each other, so we were still on good terms..
In the months before she left I hardly saw her, though, and then when she did leave we started talking a lot more on msn and stuff, and when I saw her yesterday it was the most fun I've had with another person in like forever..

[Toasty]

Good clean fun I hope. <_<

Just get a hold of Split and tell him to stalk her. Eventually she'l get so creeped out that she'll come running back to your town, and you'll both live happily ever after.

Split can ust be the 10 ton gorrila in the room.

Golden Legacy, on Aug 24 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

Cute girl in my Organic Chem class.
Later I'm walking around campus for a bit, and she notices me and comes up to me.
She actually comes over and initiates the conversation, totally caught off-guard. But we introduce ourselves, talk for a bit, and then she invites me to sit down with her for lunch.

Turns out we have a lot in common, both grew up in NYC (both in Flushing, the same area!), and we started to reminisce about a lot of the sights and people back there. We're both the oldest of our siblings, a surprising interest in Eastern European/Middle Eastern politics, same faith and also liberal.

One of the few girls I've met who I feel genuinely interested in talking with, about any subject. Has the substance, open-minded, and also isn't shallow and into her appearance (i.e. no make-up, polish or anything), yet she is still remarkably pretty.

And now we're friends, already sitting together in class and walking together and she's introducing me to her friends.

Damn I love college.


P.S. She's also two years older. ;)

What about the other girl you were telling us about some time ago?

Anyway, it seems you've found a good match. Spend some more time with her and get to know her better, I guess.

Seems odd that you're both from the same town and she just suddenly strikes up a conversation with you.

I think she joined the CIA, and the CIA wiped the memory of all her friends and family after they relocated her.

So really, you've actually been friends since childhood. [/conspiracy]

[My Best Wishes]

Lemontime, on Aug 24 2008, 11:23 PM, said:

10 hours drive away..
In the same city as Split..

She gets respect for moving to Victoria over NSW. I'll drive you down next holidays <_<

Just curious GL, you into her as a friend or more then a friend?

[Lemontime]

watch, on Aug 25 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

She gets respect for moving to Victoria over NSW. I'll drive you down next holidays <_<

Just curious GL, you into her as a friend or more then a friend?

She didn't want to, her parents made her..
And yeah, drive me down, won't be weird.. It can be the first official gssf road trip... :S

[Golden Legacy]

Toasty, on Aug 24 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

What about the other girl you were telling us about some time ago?

Anyway, it seems you've found a good match. Spend some more time with her and get to know her better, I guess.

Seems odd that you're both from the same town and she just suddenly strikes up a conversation with you.

I think she joined the CIA, and the CIA wiped the memory of all her friends and family after they relocated her.

So really, you've actually been friends since childhood. [/conspiracy]

Ahh, from my old school, that sort of just fell apart. My fault mostly, should have actually acted, but she was also rather, err, "friendly" with guys and liked to drink quite often.

Which is a bad combination.

The one I talked about just now is definitely a better match, big time. I can't get over how unlike other girls she is, yet is really interesting to talk to at the same time. And also just gives subtle hints that she actually finds me worth her time, as opposed to other ****** who always talk to me as if they were "humoring themselves".

Don't know if that makes sense, but it's something I've had to go through all my life.

watch, on Aug 25 2008, 02:37 AM, said:

She gets respect Just curious GL, you into her as a friend or more then a friend?

Right now, as a really cool person/friend. I think with time I'll start to fall for her, but for now, I'm honestly genuingly just interested in talking with her and finding out a little more.

Which is sure to happen this coming Wednesday, she's asked me to come with her to go over some of our Organic Chem notes - God I love that class now. XD

[Caael]

She wants you to bone her when you go on wednesday.

Just sayin' it how it is <_<

[Kuchiyose]

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She wants you to bone her when you go on wednesday.

Just sayin' it how it is tongue.gif

*Faceplam*

[Caael]

Did you not understand that the '<_<' means i'm joking?

[Kuchiyose]

I know xD you could also be speaking everyones mind too xD

[My Best Wishes]

Lemontime, on Aug 25 2008, 07:47 PM, said:

She didn't want to, her parents made her..
And yeah, drive me down, won't be weird.. It can be the first official gssf road trip... :S

Absolutely, It wouldn't be an akward 10 hours at all. <_<
Well her parents get the respect points then, either way someone made the call and they're legendary.

[Lemontime]

I think they're the opposite of legendary, actually... Cause Melbourne sucks..

[Drizzy Drake]

okay, so this is how you get the ladies.

you go half....half....WHOLE!!!



















Half half WHOLE!!! swirl
















half half whole!!! swirl......hide behind a rock.

[Split Infinity]

What the **** is wrong with you?

[Toasty]

Quit spamming Skidz.

[Drizzy Drake]

Do some research and all will be revealed.

[Someone Else]

Vanessa Hudgens, on Sep 15 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

okay, so this is how you get the ladies.

you go half....half....WHOLE!!!
Half half WHOLE!!! swirl
half half whole!!! swirl......hide behind a rock.

The sad thing is I know exactly what he's talking about.

What's sadder is that to Dipsy sex = relationship =/

[Split Infinity]

And vice versa.

[Blue]

Got my sights on some one. She's a pretty cool person.

[Split Infinity]

And are you ready to aim?