[Envy]

It will certainly sell well and will stay in the top ten of the Wii's life as well.

I mean look at the Wii right now, the only really exciting game on it is Super Mario Galaxy. Lets not forget that Super Smash Bros. Brawl has to be the most hyped game coming right now.\

EDIT: I guess you could say TP is exciting as well. I forgot to say it because I played the GCN version. XD

[gsninja]

Skidzorz, on Jan 8 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

I think he has a VERRRRY tiny chance of being in. It just is. It's sad, but it is. That's what PSP's are for.

You're totally forgetting Sakurai's poll.

http://smashboards.c...ead.php?t=71872

Isaac got as many votes as Lucas. If Lucas can get in, why not Isaac? Golden Sun still has a fanbase of a decent size and is regarded as one of the best RPGs on the GBA. Isaac has bigger chances than you think.

[Drizzy Drake]

Wasn't GS voted the best game on GBA period on soem gaming website? Ya but Lucas was insted of Ness am I right?

[Mallick]

does that change anything...?

[Drizzy Drake]

Yes, yes it does. Oh well. If you wanna play with Issac, get a PSP, that's all I use my PSP for nowadays. Mods, music and movies. But the mods/emulators/roms alone were worth the price.

Wait, am I allowed to talk about that here???

[Toasty]

Nope. But why would you even buy a PSP? With the iPod Touch and iPhone, and the fact that there's only a few decent games for it, it's pretty much a waste of money. And we have GBA's/DS's for GS and GS2. As for the emulator's, you can get them on a PC, or use a flashcart for a DS. Enough about that, though.

Isaac has a pretty decent chance of being in there since he got a lot of votes in the poll's, and it's obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten about the GS series since they use official art from the games in some of the pages on their website. On top of that, Camelot want's to make a GS3.

But, all that doesn't mean that he's DEFINATELY going to be in their. I say 50/50 chances.

[Drizzy Drake]

I got a PSP for 100$

And ya the "official" games do suck, but if you put a PS1 emulator and a GBA emulator, it's worth the 100$ to play any PS1 and GBA game, portably. Plus where the hell do you get flashcarts?

[gsninja]

I meant to say this for a bit, but it looks like my hopes were true and that Ike's time frame issue got resolved. At the Jump Fiesta in Japan, Ike's issue was fixed and he was apparently as fast as Roy. This is really good news, especially for me.

[Eugine]

So um, anyone has gameplay footage?

[gsninja]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8WdNMNFrf8M

This is the only footage that's been posted, but it's rather bad quality. Anyways, there has been other info posted on the Smash board about it. For example, Sothe has been confirmed to be an AT.

[Envy]

Why would I want a PSP? I can play Golden Sun on my DS.

50/50 chance, Dude of Wind? Nah, I'd say it's more of in the 60%-80% range.

EDIT: Everytime I hear new AT's have been discovered and Isaac isn't one of them it makes me happy and more hopeful! ^_^

[Golden Legacy]

Source: Smashboards.com, YouTube


Subspace Emissary Videos

Subspace Emissary Trailer
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YLF3z3TIJuY

Subspace Emissary: Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong
http://www.gametrail...ayer/26643.html
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=L1Kr4Nct7OE
Awesome new SE video. We get an idea of how Subspace storylines will play out. Cut scenes are amazing, and gameplay is much like you'd expect. Sweet.

Subspace Emissary: Pit and Mario
http://www.gametrail...ayer/26652.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MMRjY-Grcx4
Another SE vid, this time showing Pit battle through his part of Adventure mode, and picking up Mario along the way!

Subspace Emissary: Kirby and Peach
http://www.gametrail...ayer/26662.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9vmElR_QtSQ
Kirby and Peach are shown riding on a Warp Star. Then the Halberd shows up and the two of them run accross it's length. No enemies though.... Then we see an Arwing (!) doing battle with the Halberd... just watch XD

Subspace Emissary: The Beginning - Part 1
http://www.gametrail...ayer/26689.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_7f_oamhxHs

Subspace Emissary: The Beginning - Part 2
http://www.gametrail...ayer/26687.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KaMCPPAEX54 (thanks C.Olimar788)

Subspace Emissary: DK, Diddy, and Bowser
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=L7dXIWFXrsY
More footage of DK and Diddy's adventure. They get their bananas and Bowser shows up to foil their celebration.

Subspace Emissary: Beginning
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=G9COeW9Wmxs
Same as the previous video expect there's footage of Zelda and Mario at the end.


5 Part E-4-All Trip Blog
manofonetitle and his friends record their E-4-All experience in this funny 5-part video series. Brawl footage in parts 3 and 4.
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eWs-hcWyBCM
Part 2 : http://www.youtube.c...h?v=v2wpHNvnHJs
Part 3 : http://www.youtube.c...h?v=tTv4PnMiZwM
Part 4 : http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jQVK6g1icT8
Part 5 : http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IV-SILc7Lq4


1v1 Matches

Battlefield

Mario vs. Samus (Samus Zero Laser and ZSS shown)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ggioN_moUJc

http://www.gamepro.c....cfm?vid=116720
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fRXFMVTaztw
Starts out on Smashville, some Metaknight vs Mario action. Quickly turns to Battlefield with Link and Pit duking it out. First look at Pit and Link's arrows.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mByTv1MOGj0
Link vs. Ike. Link uses his Final Smash!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UYCTTVZQ-k0
Bowser vs Metaknight. Lyn AT seems deadly!!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=83DAiT081m0
Gold Bowser and Dark Link. Giga Bowser shown.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DsiBDV9Xu9c
Peach vs Samus on Battlefield. Apparently you can do Samus' Final Smash up in the air.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UHGK3NTVTj0
Pikachu vs Peach. No final smashes but a lot of dash dancing.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UV7Gz2VGCek
Peach vs Samus. Peach FS.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ols7ASPclbs
Diddy vs Sonic on Battlefield. Money match.


Delfino Plaza

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_af8A8irD6Y
Pit vs Bowser on Delfino. Giga Bowser.


Bridge of Eldin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ErIfmtm6lo0
Mario vs Link. Finally we see Mario's Final Smash in action!

http://youtube.com/w....e=user&search=
Fox vs Ike. Really short, but we see King Bulblin.

http://www.zentendo.....php?newsId=415 (HD Downloads)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eJ15BBSQV_k
Pit vs Link on Battlefield and Sonic vs Link on Bridge of Eldin.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UjCvWyomKFQ
Metaknight and Fox. Metaknight's Final Smash shown! Your percentage appears above you if you stand still.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=zftgmSgRxpI
Mario vs Diddy on Bridge of Eldin. Mario FS, Saki AT.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=orEnMK31yJs
Peach vs Sonic on Bridge of Eldin. Sonic doesn't know what he's doing, yet manages to get a FS off somehow.


Norfair

IGN: Pit vs Yoshi on Norfair
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=D8I_kzfCauo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D533pueDHLc
Sonic vs Ike. We get a good look at how the Norfair stage operates. Sonic turns into Super Sonic, and Ike's recovery seems to be very vertical.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=MyaiQCHbAfk
Mario vs. Samus. Dr. Wright AT, Mario's FS, Sudden Death

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-Oax5bKOprY
Sonic vs Fox on Norfair.


Lylat Cruise

Sonic vs. Link (Super Sonic shown)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xevted1Xu-4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0HIucdW2j4
Fox vs Link. Link lands some smashes which seem very strong. Fox grabs some spicy curry, hilarity ensues.

http://video.google.....12671314226194
Metaknight vs Sonic on Battlefield, and Peach vs Ike on Lylat Cruise. We see Metaknight and Peach's final smashes.

Pokemon Stadium 2

MTV coverage: Wiimote (Super Sonic shown as well)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eCDzGqKnD_k

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vNjm3PEFJDY
Link vs Fox. Wind Stage, Excitebike AT, Fox's Landmaster Final Smash!!! Needs moar barrel roll.


Castle Siege

MTV Coverage: Classic controller
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l7oKuZmstpY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoF97-3C-Rc
Metaknight vs Pikachu. Nothing really much happens at all here. Camera work is shaky.


Yoshi's Island

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=TL-I-pAGjLw
Diddy vs Yoshi. Diddy's tail combo.


Halberd

http://youtube.com/watch?v=29OjNh-tzrA
Link vs Samus. Samus nails Link with a Zero Laser for a KO.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=on4ziwU2nTM
Sonic vs. Metaknight. Bonsly appears as a Pokeball. Not one Smash Ball appears!


Skyworld

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dGdrxsikX4A
Pit vs Dark Link. Pretty neat costume for Link. The player sucked in this one though.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=o3uOB1hhZl8
Samus vs Fox on Skyworld. Fox player doesn't know what he's doing, Samus hits him with a Zero Laser.


Smashville

IGN: Sonic vs Link on Smashville
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iyQVtB_owHA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8bnZtU5c8Qw
Peach vs Metaknight. Not much happens. Annoying girl screaming in the background.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=47p2cRGqOrQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wxzIeovBtEs
Mario vs Bowser (2 parts). Bowser really tries to get the smash ball, and Mario seems oblivious to it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=brFvqPbE6SI
Metaknight vs Diddy Kong. MK shows off his combo-ing ability.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8bnZtU5c8Qw
Metaknight vs Peach. I think Peach pulls out a bomb from the ground.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Z0rLLk7U3B8
Samus and Sonic. Samus turns into Zamus.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mo64aIfCFxU
Gold Bowser vs Dark Pit on Smashville.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PcsJb8z6S20
Pikachu owning Sonic on Smashville. Pretty funny. Lightning item makes Pikachu HUGE!

http://ie.youtube.co...h?v=p2_DZqpXxic
Metaknight vs Samus. Saki and Resetti ATs appear.


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Free-for-All Matches

Battlefield

http://www.gamepro.c....s/139928.shtml
Alternate Youtube link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zfxo4ThurUw
Fox, DK, Metaknight and Bowser.

http://www.youtube.c...lhwdvf_U14&NR=1
Ike, Mario, Metaknight and Fox. Fox gets on his tank and falls off the stage XD. Ike shows off that power by killing people left and right, then murders using his Final Smash. This guy can't be as bad as they say...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3Wgefh4tXyw
Diddy Kong, Pit, Metaknight, and Fox. Booth babes still being annoying. Diddy Kong shows his power with his Final Smash. Fox's Wolf costume and victory theme plainly seen and heard.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=f5m2VHKDrB0
Bowser, Diddy Kong, Sonic and Diddy Kong. 3 Smash Balls and Final Smashes in this one, Giga Bowser and 2 Rocketbarrel Barrages.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mR1W_t2_QSU
2 Links, Metaknight and Sonic. Old-school Battlefield music by the creator. Another Super Sonic (I guess Sonic is just good at getting those smash balls

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_RSPe_qlDMU
Battlefield: Pikachu, Mario, Samus & Link

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pnDmnd3QOCU
Battlefield: Meta Knight, Mario, Ike, Pit. MK performs his final smash

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=rjttTrCF-kY
This is a crazy one. Ike, Link, Peach and Diddy on Battlefield. Watch at 2:55 for some really crazy action. Nice finish also. Might want to turn your volume down though.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=QAWsGQQYThg
Kinda similar to the last one with Link's FS. Link, Ike, Samus and Pikachu on Battlefield. They really don't want to let Samus use her FS.

http://vids.myspace.....deoid=21134688
Link, Mario, Pit and Fox on Battlefield. Fox FS.

http://www.gamersrep....icks-video-01/
Fox, Metaknight, Pit and Diddy on Battlefield. Diddy FS, Gardevoir, Spicy Curry.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vJC2S7ioOwU
Ike, Sonic, DK and Samus. Decent use of DK's Final Smash.

http://ie.youtube.co...h?v=7gnCC_aJ2Us
3 Metaknight and Sonic. Sonic's FS.


Delfino Plaza

IGN: 4-Player on Delfino Plaza
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=G4lvbMpUVU4

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=HuZsxnQiCyo
Peach, Metaknight, Yoshi and Fox. There's a girl's head in the way XD. Golden Hammer looks insane.

http://www.youtube.c...=2UNOL28vUkg
Sonic, Pikachu, Pit and Metaknight. Pit does his FS, but only after the booth babes yell at at the guy to do so. Also, Bonsly (Pokemon) can be seen at the beginning of the video.

http://eforall.gamep....cfm?vid=116920
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S8hwJ2Usri4
Booth babes battle it out. You can finally attach faces to that horrible screeching! Anyway, they use Peach, Link, Fox and Black Wing Pit.

http://eforall.gamep....cfm?vId=116940
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qpEph2Q3ISc
Booth babes go at it. Pit, Peach, Metaknight and Pikachu. Pit gets off a Final Smash.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=NOh57KLox2I
2 Metaknight, Ike and Pikachu. A Metaknight misses his FS, Sudden Death between Ike and a Meta.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KptxO7Eae0k
2 Links, Metaknight and Fox. A Nintendog blocks the screen for a while! Booth babe: "Who's dog is that?!? LOL!"

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bO-Quc5hVXE
4 booth babes, all using Peach. Yay? One of them gets off a FS, amusing commentary by the creator.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=aXpKJTOURdM
Delfino Plaza: Pikachu, Meta Knight, Samus, Sonic

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=aaxoWA_DIek
Delfino Plaza: Link, Peach, Samus, Pit

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EFuprCopHQY
Delfino Plaza: Ike, Pikachu, Sonic, Meta Knight

http://video.aol.com....all/3549344183
Short video of Pikachu, Sonic, Pit and Metaknight on Delfino Plaza. Pit gets off a FS.


Bridge of Eldin

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Dy1nynXoosc
Link vs Ike vs Yoshi vs Link. You can see the missing part of he bridge come back.

http://eforall.gamep....cfm?vId=117000
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z_XYgqvsovc
More booth babes. They're really much more bearable when they don't open their mouths. Samus, Link and double Peach action (that sounded dirty...)

http://www.joystiq.c....rom-the-floor/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NqULzfw9BzE
Mario, Samus, 2 Peach. Superspicy curry. Only 20 secs of footage, rest is from other E4All games.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t18ojQrx-go
Peach, Link, Fox and Metaknight. Fox performs his final smash.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t18ojQrx-go
Peach, Metaknight, Fox and Samus. Fox's landmaster takes out a bunch of people and actually does a barrel-roll!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XS9M75xhkYE
Albino DK, Samus, Link, and Sonic. Lyn shows up here, still as powerful. Cameraman is a Sonic fan, becomes very happy when Super Sonic shows up. 3-way Sudden Death. Listen half-way for another booth girl line.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uoHZvSU5mVc
Mario, Bowser, Pikachu, and Link. Lakitu AT shown. Giga Bowser shown! Volt Tackle shown! Sudden Death!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=06LdhNF_gnA
Bridge of Eldin: Meta Knight, Peach, Link, Ike

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=C2ZWquyZaf8
Sonic, Samus, Yoshi, and Meta Knight at the Bridge of Eldin. Yoshi's FS owns, Sudden Death


Norfair

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3IoPLwXlqNI
Mario, Sonic, Bowser, and DK. Metroid Theme plays with wicked guitar riffs! Mario pwns with his Final Smash all across the stage!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=l2edSEGk9B8
Norfair: Pikachu, Diddy Kong, Meta Knight, Sonic

http://www.gamersrep....all-expo-2007/
Pit, Peach, Yoshi and Sonic on Delfino. Metroid AT, Yoshi FS.
Also, Bowser, Sonic, Mario and DK on Norfair. Great battle. Mario's FS.

Lylat Cruise

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KcHn7WSM1hE
Link, Link, Metaknight, and Mario. Nothing new here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LcstSatAhYs
DK, Mario, Pikachu and Pit. Pit gets off his final smash, not much else happens. Nice music in the background, lol.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mjWGe22oNSk
Lylat Cruise: Pit, Fox, Pikachu, Yoshi


Yoshi's Island
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_AGUqAd6yi8
Metaknight, Metaknight, Pikachu, and Mario. New song on stage, but in original format by creator of video. Volt Tackle shown.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1BOtMayVuVg
Link, Ike, Sonic and Samus. Very nice match. Samus sweeps the stage with her Zero Laser and then a 4 WAY SUDDEN DEATH!!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=1BOtMayVuVg
Ike, Link, Sonic and Samus on Lylat Cruise. Samus FS, Sudden Death.

* http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XYbejaG1j2I
Diddy, Ike, Bowser and Metaknight. Diddy's FS.


Pokemon Stadium 2

http://www.gametrail...ayer/26667.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4OFxkXTHPQ
HD Video!! DK, Diddy, Sonic and Samus. Sonic goes Super (again), and we get a clear view of the Pokemon in the background. Diddy gets caught in Torchic's attack and gets a whopping 60% damage!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mBSaUL_tXTs
Link, Metaknight, Pit, Pikachu(?). Camera is far from the screen so you can't see very much. One of the booth babes gets off a Triforce Slash and ends up winning. -.-

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PMKh5FAouoo
Diddy Kong, Link, Yoshi and Metaknight. Link's Final Smash. Creator's comments state that you can get a free FS when you're playing poorly.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ud4UQtclNTo
Pokemon Stadium 2: Pit, Meta Knight, Sonic and Bowser. Bowser performs his final smash

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ce-IBse-rFg
Ike, Mario, Fox and Sonic on Pokemon Stadium 2. Also Pikachu, Fox, Pit and Sonic on Battlefield. Fox FS.

http://it.youtube.co...h?v=VBxH-VhV6Vs
Fox, Metaknight, Diddy and Link. Crowd can be heard chanting "Starfox!" at 0:50.

http://it.youtube.co....eature=related
Peach, Bowser, Metaknight and Samus. Bowser and Metaknight Final Smashes!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iurdP1wBDqs
Metaknight, 2 Yoshis and Fox. Yoshi FS.


Castle Siege

IGN: Castle Siege Brawl: All 3 Levels (Yoshi, Mario, Metaknight and Diddy Kong)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=evajWSPy7SA

Albino DK, Yoshi, Metaknight and Sonic
http://www.gametrail....es/116759.html

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=sJHbNwIKY5Q
Link, Ike, Pikachu, and Samus. Statues seen crumbling down. Triforce Slash shown.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JfRcH9MERGA
4 Sonics. Are people getting bored? Anyway, 2 Super Sonics and the Shadow costume can be seen.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=OZ4Dx331JDE
DK, Link, Pikachu and Yoshi. Crumbling statues, and Yoshi deals out punishment with his Final Smash.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=sUiuvCgNdBc
Link, Metaknight, Samus and Sonic. Another Super Sonic, Spicy Curry and what looks like Samurai Goroh AT.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=1ZjBNfJXw5U
Castle Siege: Pit, Sonic, Link and someone else. Assist Trophy Resetti is shown and Entei is a Pokeball Pokemon

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vFlk7QvDPmo
Castle Siege: Samus, Bowser, Pit, Meta Knight

http://www.gameriot.....sh-Bros-Brawl/
Shaky camera work. Link, Samus, Ike and Pikachu on Castle Siege. Then Sonic, Mario, Ike and Metaknight on Battlefield.


Yoshi's Island

Diddy's Rocketbarrel Barrage (Features the end-of-match screen, listen for Metaknight's voice)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=TLwVd7QESSc

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Iinjo21m3Jw
Pit, Metaknight, Ike and Mario. Lots of people get the smash ball, but somehow no one manages to get their FS off. Though Metaknight tries and misses somehow.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iO_MjeQipww
Diddy (pink costume), Bowser, Yoshi and Samus on Yoshi's Island. Giga Bowser.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XYbejaG1j2I
Ike, Bowser, Metaknight, and Diddy.


Halberd

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=m491-eyQApY
Ike, Pit, Metaknight and Fox on Halberd. Meta's FS.

IGN: Halberd (2 videos)
http://media.wii.ign...545/vids_1.html
Youtube for Part 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-O3Wy5UECAk
Youtube for Part 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5c9Ls4uprEE (Thanks to cyberdemon for both)

Skyworld

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uw4C9pbbW0M
4 Peaches battle it out and in the end... Daisy is the winner! XD One of them gets off her final smash in mid-air.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=azjiLKD9-3g
Skyworld: DK, Link, Ike, Samus

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=K0YBp03s61s
Sonic, Mario, Ike and Samus on Skyworld. Sonic FS and a pretty nice ending.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=uk3YA_miO3E
4 Bowser FFA!!! Madness!!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YU3N0KZEQvM
Bowser, Samus, and 2 Ikes on Skyworld. Gigabowser.


Smashville

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=U8PqbN2WM7M
Samus, Pikachu, Sonic and Pit. Sonic FS, Electrode returns, booth babes annoying as ever. Watch till the very end for a great line from one of them...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=VT3RRINW_yA
Mario, Peach, Metaknight, and Fox. Nothing new here.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=4HfXE_XRC_M
Smashville: Sonic, Pikachu, Peach, Ike

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KPWo-ardDj8
Mario, Ike, Pikachu and Dark Link on Smashville.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iybwRDTGXwc
Pikachu, Bowser, Pit and Peach on Smashville. Pit's FS.

[gsninja]

Good one, GL. Now I know where to look if I want to keep re-watching all the gameplay videos. They're even categorized. =D

EDIT: For that free-for-all video with Ike destroying everyone, he definitely doesn't looks as bad as people say. However, the people who went to E 4 All did say Ike paused for a split second before he attacked. It was actually a bit evident in a couple videos. Still, Ike's strength is monstrous.

[Envy]

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/images/pikmin/pikmin.jpg

Captain Olimar is in!

And remember that icon theory and how there was that icon spot that everybody thought Pikmin would fit into? Well Pikmin has icon #22.

Although the alphabetical part has pretty much been deconfirmed, up to the DS icon everything gos smoothly, and Golden Sun can possibly fit into that spot! ^_^

[Linear]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!!
CAPTAIN OLIMAR!!!

GET READY TO BE ***** SLAPPED BY MY PIKMIN!!! >=D

Lol. X_X;;;

*Still waiting for a Zelda...5 months and counting*

[Caael]

Well this was unexpected. At long last, a character, and an awesome one at that. I'm glad he's in.

[Mallick]

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

OH GOD TEARS ARE COMING FROM MY EYES

[Laharl]

its interesting, i'll give it that. hopefully this'll open the floodgates for my character revelations

*demands to see Ganondorf*

[I'm Always BROKE]

****ing awesome update! ^_^ We where long due for a new character update, and this makes up for it even though I never played Pikmin. Hopefully some new veterans will be accounced next. So far, this week is full of nice updates, can't wait to see Friday's update!

[TheEnglishman]

I've never been a wild Pikmin fan, but it's nice to get a new character. Seeing the poll posted earlier reminded me that I wanted the Black Knight in.

[gsninja]

I really wasn't surpried by Olimar. O.o As time passed, he just seemed to have a more plausible chance of being in, in my opinion. Still, I laughed when I saw Olimar.

[Folcon]

I can't beleave he got in. But, it gives a new aspect of game play to try, or something like that.

[Golden Legacy]

About time we got a new character! It'll be interesting to see how he plays/

Ahh, I bet the Smash boards have exploded with this news after a 2 and half month hiatus of characters, lol.

[Blue]

v.v Why would you do this to me Jesus? Was it all the sinning?

[Toasty]

HOW IN GOD'S NAME DID OLIMAR GET IN THERE?

If he can get into Brawl, then there's no doubt that Isaac can too. Seriously. He seemed one of the less likely candidates to me.

[Eugine]

Don't even know who Olimar is x.x

It will suck really bad if he was chosen over Isaac/Felix.

[Drizzy Drake]

He's the Pikmin dude.

[gsninja]

I don't understand what's so surprising about Olimar making the cut. He was requested even more than Isaac was.

[Drizzy Drake]

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa????(Ala Moe from Simpsons)

[Eugine]

He was? Got a list gsninja?

[Drizzy Drake]

That's what I was wondering. ANd don't say said lsit is from Smashboards casue everybdoy there are ubernerds/retards.

[gsninja]

Well, the only list I have is from the Smashboards. Anyways, it's from Sakurai's poll; Olimar got 3 votes whiloe Isaac got 2. Aside from the Smash boards, though, Olimar was still requested more than Isaac, including at GameFAQs, although not much more. Still, something great happened: once Olimar got confirmed, there have been at least three times as many Isaac topics at the Brawl boards in GFAQs. XD

http://smashboards.c...ead.php?t=71872

[Drizzy Drake]

Olimar 3 votes and Issac 2, so only like, 10 people voted, I don't get that voting system???

EDIT-Sorry my internet is messed(like I have stated before) and I cna't view Smashboards ATM, could somebdoy please try and explain the poll/voting system, because 2 and 3 votes sound like almsot nothing.

[Moonear]

Wow,he looks like a fun character to use. This week has been full of good updates. Someone want to change the poll?

[Golden Legacy]

Polls are done weekly, so after the Friday update.

Seriously though, today's update made my heart skip when I saw the "Warning! Challenger Approaching!" sign... in a good way. -_- I'm curious to see how Pikmin and Olimar (shall we say P&O?) will fight, especially since it says "Without Pikmin, Olimar can’t even do a Smash Attack."

If Sakurai keeps up with the usual trend, tomorrow's update should be the special moves.

[Mallick]

OK when we all have brawl, who wants to do Olimar vs. Olimar with me?!

[Drizzy Drake]

No, no, no, and more NO. Ha. I probably will play as him once and then jsut forget about him. What character will be the "WTF" character this game. First it was Ness, then Mr. G&W. Now who do we all think will be Mr. WTF.

[Envy]

Captain Olimar gives me hope for Isaac's inclusion.

Not necessarily because he's Olimar, but because there's still an icon (other than the one for Mr. Game & Watch) that we don't know the franchise for.

I was worried that Pikmin would be the one that would fit into that icon and would be the last one.

On the other hand, I'm a Captain Olimar supporter. I'm glad he made it. -_-

[Linear]

x_x Heh, it'll be quite fun just seeing characters being attacked by Pikmin. I bet he can plant seeds to get more Pikmin in case they're all gone.

[Mallick]

Skidzorz, on Jan 9 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

No, no, no, and more NO. Ha. I probably will play as him once and then jsut forget about him. What character will be the "WTF" character this game. First it was Ness, then Mr. G&W. Now who do we all think will be Mr. WTF.

And here I thought it was Olimar..

[Moonear]

Ness is awesome, don't diss him. Jiggly puff was more of a WTF? character. And Ryu better get confirmed as at least an assist trophy.

[Toasty]

He meant in the N64 version, Ness was the Mr. WTF. G&W was the Mr. WTF for Melee.

[Envy]

Mallick, on Jan 9 2008, 09:14 PM, said:

And here I thought it was Olimar..

He's far from a "WTF?" character... Most people knew he had great chances of making it in.

A true WTF character is Mr. Game & Watch. I have to wonder if Brawl will even have a WTF character, people have analyzed so many characters with even the slightest bit of a possibility, meaning that what Sakurai intended to be the the WTF character, may not be so much to us since we've looked so far into who can make it.

Seriously, don't be surprised.

Even some people thought Pokemon Trainer had a chance.

[Folcon]

Today's update is Snake's FS. I guess its alright. I think I was expecting more though, I just don't know what.

[gsninja]

I think it's quite clever. I always adored those very occasional first-person views within the otherwise third-person view of the game. It's rather neat, considering you can aim pretty well with Snake's Final Smash.

[TheEnglishman]

Today's update isn't as surprising as the one for Soul Calibur IV...

[Envy]

Expecting more, as in another character? :P

Olimar may be it before the Japanese release, but you never know.

[Golden Legacy]

January's proving to be great for updates, but I can't help but feel as though there should be a "megaton" coming soon. Olimar was definitely a great revelation and finally ended a 2+ month drought of characters, but I'm still expecting something to raise the hype around Brawl to, say, when Sonic was revealed - that was absolutely huge, but it's really subsided now.

EDIT: New move for Zelda revealed!
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/560...80110143829.jpg

[Envy]

The fact that Sonic was announced never really excited me. That could be because I don't like him. :P

The new "move" looks like a Final Smash to me.

[gsninja]

Envy, on Jan 10 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

The new "move" looks like a Final Smash to me.

That's what I thought, too. No B move changes the camera angle like that. Nifty find, though.

[Drizzy Drake]

Dude of Wind, on Jan 10 2008, 12:46 AM, said:

He meant in the N64 version, Ness was the Mr. WTF. G&W was the Mr. WTF for Melee.

Ya. They were both the characters where you were you just surprised to see them. Jigglypuff was just blaaaah.

[Envy]

gsninja, on Jan 10 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

That's what I thought, too. No B move changes the camera angle like that. Nifty find, though.

It turns out that it IS her FS, and that also according to the card, Sheik is returning.

Sheik confirmed. She was a character that I really didn't know whether she'd return or not.

[gsninja]

I'm so happy that my main is confirmed! I was really hoping for Sheik to return and I always knew she would.

So, I decided to play Melee last night. I haven't played it since the last school year, so it's been at least seven months, literally. Honestly, when you're trying to play Super Smash Bros. like Jump! Ultimate Stars, it's really confusing. I have to play more if I want to get accustomed to the SSB series again.

[Drizzy Drake]

I don't get how Sheik is returning. She hasn't been in a Zelda game in 10 years, but I guess that didn't stop Pit. Meh, I probably won't play as her.

[Envy]

Yeah, Sheik is a weird one. Practically every other character in the game have relevance to their series, but Sheik really doesn't.

However she was in Melee, and there really is no reason to take her out.

[Drizzy Drake]

How many confirmed chars. are there?

[gsninja]

24. The speculated amount is between 35 and 40. You can always check here:

www.smashbros.com

[Drizzy Drake]

24. Wow. They will have to give a new character every 3 days, unless they jsut don't reveal them all.

[Golden Legacy]

Envy, on Jan 10 2008, 03:41 PM, said:

The fact that Sonic was announced never really excited me. That could be because I don't like him. :P

The new "move" looks like a Final Smash to me.

gsninja, on Jan 10 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

That's what I thought, too. No B move changes the camera angle like that. Nifty find, though.

Envy, on Jan 10 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

It turns out that it IS her FS, and that also according to the card, Sheik is returning.

Sheik confirmed. She was a character that I really didn't know whether she'd return or not.

Yeah, it's her Final Smash, should have realized from the angle and the glow (it's subtle, but it's there).

Just curious though, by Sheik being confirmed, does that mean as a stand-alone character or as Zelda's Down+B transformation?

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 10 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

Just curious though, by Sheik being confirmed, does that mean as a stand-alone character or as Zelda's Down+B transformation?

It's more than likely the Down + B transformation, which is what I'm hoping for. We won't know until it's confirmed, though. Plus, I'm really looking forward to Sheik's new model.

[Golden Legacy]

Hmm. Purist Zelda fans like me won't be too happy about that. It's Zelda's Twilight Princess model - not only was Sheik non-existent in TP, they would either have to have a Twilight Princess character transform into an Ocarina of Time character (?), or they would have to redesign Sheik and "imagine her" in a TP setting.

EDIT: Never mind, I got pwned.
http://brawlcentral.com/

[Drizzy Drake]

I can't view that, how so did you get pwned??

[Nosferatu]

He got pwned as Shiek is confirmed as Down-B, and Zelda's FS is the Light Arrow.

[Drizzy Drake]

So it's basically TP model, but OoT moves??

[Eugine]

I can't wait to get my hands on Zelda/Sheik ^_~

[Nosferatu]

Skidzorz, on Jan 10 2008, 05:32 PM, said:

So it's basically TP model, but OoT moves??

We'll see.

And this was posted a while ago, and seems to make some sense. Considering that Olimar was listed after DeDeDe, and was announced after DeDede. It's the most realistic list I've seen so far.

http://www.thewiieff...wl-roster-leak/

It's old but it does appear to be taking shape.

[Folcon]

Interesting to see Megaman on that list, even if its at the bottem. Although that leaves the question of which Megaman would be used. Original, X, BN, etc. Maybe each would be a different skin. But that would make the selection of moves difficult, unless he had a temporary copy ability like Kirby.

[Drizzy Drake]

Maybe each B move would be one from each "series".

[Toasty]

That list seems fairly likely as it was posted before Olimar was confirmed, and Olimar was the next guy on the list of newcomers. If this is true, then I'm overjoyed that Isaac's in, but I have NO idea why Mewtwo or the AC Villager is in there. Mewtwo sucked, and the only way that I can see the Villager attacking, is maybe with his fists or farm tools or something. Probably grapple with a fishing pole. Dunno.

But the list also fits the speculated character count.

[gsninja]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=32159

According to this link, Megaman won't be in Brawl. Then again, this was on December 22nd, so things might have changed in the following weeks. Still, I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Eugine]

Do you know if Nintendo can have 'expansions' for Brawl after it's released? Like, buy new characters?
Imo, most likely Brawl will be the only SSB for the Wii, so having downloadable content will be really great. Plus, they would be able to include stuff they weren't able to because of time.

[Nosferatu]

Well, I for one heard of a demo thing coming. Can't remember if that was a rumour or not.

There is a chance as new channels are added through downloading, so there isn't much stopping them from just putting small blocks of info in to the Wii to add things in to a game.

[Envy]

Nosferatu, on Jan 10 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

We'll see.

And this was posted a while ago, and seems to make some sense. Considering that Olimar was listed after DeDeDe, and was announced after DeDede. It's the most realistic list I've seen so far.

http://www.thewiieff...wl-roster-leak/

It's old but it does appear to be taking shape.

That list is a fake. The creator of it came out and said so.

It's a shame too, I would have been so happy with it. :P

[Nosferatu]

Envy, on Jan 10 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

That list is a fake. The creator of it came out and said so.

It's a shame too, I would have been so happy with it. :P

Oh well. But it does seem to have some truth in it. Even if by accident.

[Linear]

.eugine, on Jan 10 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

I can't wait to get my hands on Zelda/Sheik ^_~

>_> What was that? You have to get through me first. D: <
:3 Lol. I'm joking.

Seeing that Zelda info made me so happy inside. @w@

[Nosferatu]

So, Olimar's B moves. Not too impressive, but Olimar still looks like the WTF character to me.

I guess he's also the new Jigglypuff. If you can master him, you might be able to kick some serious ass.

[Caael]

And yet he's weak at first appearance. He looks awesome to use, and as Pikmin games are one of my favourite game series, i'll use him a lot.

[Mallick]

I'll probably use him in my GSSF games.

[Toasty]

Envy, on Jan 10 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

That list is a fake. The creator of it came out and said so.

It's a shame too, I would have been so happy with it. :wub:

If you're talking about the guy the posted on that blog, I doubt it. He didn't even bother to prove it. If you're talking about someone else, then I'm a bit dissapointed.

I might try Olimar out. But his moveset sounds VERY strangely familiar to something I read on *shudder* smashboards.

[gsninja]

BIG news.

http://www.brawlcentral.com/index.php

Read it for yourself. The final version of Brawl will be played in Japan, so the guys at Brawl Central will be taking screenshots and stuff. This means we're going to know the starting roster and all sorts of stuff.

[ZephyrAnalea]

Thanks for the news ninja! Put Piers and Mewtwo in the starting roster and I'll be one happy little girl.

[Nosferatu]

Oh sweet. Come oooon Olimar for start.

Edit: I was just reading their SSE section and why does this sound like a certain boss from an old Megaman game?

Quote

- Zero Suit Samus seems to appear first, and then puts on her Power Suit. During a stage as her, she will fight a flying boss that fires missile and has a skull in the middle of it.

[Golden Legacy]

RUMOR: The North American release for Brawl has been pushed back until March, according to a few retail outlets.

At any rate, good stuff we've been hearing! Next ten days are going to explode with information as the Japanese release approaches. I wonder how Famitsu will rate it?

[Drizzy Drake]

They rate out of 40 right?

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 12 2008, 05:25 PM, said:

RUMOR: The North American release for Brawl has been pushed back until March, according to a few retail outlets.

That's all been confirmed to be fake, I believe. I called my local GameStop store and they said they're going to start selling Brawl on 2/10. Those other outlets are incorrect.

[Drizzy Drake]

gsninja, on Jan 12 2008, 08:39 PM, said:

That's all been confirmed to be fake, I believe. I called my local GameStop store and they said they're going to start selling Brawl on 2/10. Those other outlets are incorrect.

YIPPPPEEEEE. What is Snakes final smash. I can't view the sites.

[Envy]

We have some new information from the Whobby Demo in Japan:

# Meta Knight: No strong attacks. He's the kind of character that relies on multiple hits. FS is very strong and has a wide hitbox. Not much use for gliding. Taunt: Flaps his wings and does a "warp" or some sort.
# Diddy Kong: He's very fast and can 'put hurt on you."
# According to someone to who asked a Nintendo rep there: Brawl is confirmed to be released on the 24th. (Japan)
# Pokemon Trainer disappears on certain stages. he was not present on Delfino Plaza.
# New Pokemon: Shaymin
# UNCONFIRMED: Pokemon trainer's starting appearance is him running to a stop and taunting.
# Item Selection is ON. Smash Balls can be turned off.
# King Dedede has a pink costume.
# Dedede is a heavy, slow, powerful character. He has 4 mid-air jumps (5 total jumps). His Waddle Dee throwing attack is weak. His Up Special has good knockback.
# Dedede's starting appearance is the Waddle Dee Shrine seen on the Dojo.
# Pokemon Trainer and King Dedede Playable! They appear as "Dedede" and "P. Trainer"

More news will probably appear, you can keep up with it at Brawl Central.

Oops, gsninja beat me to it. Oh well, it turns out it wasn't the full version, just another demo. This time King Dedede and Pokemon Trainer are playable.

[gsninja]

Yeah, too bad it wasn't the full version of the game like they first claimed it was. Oh well, it was nice to learn of some of the updates.

[Toasty]

Awesome. I like today's update. They had something a lot like this in Kirby Air-Ride. This'll make unlocking everything in the game a bit easier.

[Drizzy Drake]

What is the update?

Because like I said I can't view the site.

[Toasty]

It's a board that sho's you what you've unlocked, and shows you how to unlock a few other things. All the squares start out blank, but if you unlock something, then that square and the two to the left and right of it will be revealed, with the center one being unlocked, and the other two telling you what to do to unlock them.

[Drizzy Drake]

That is awsome. I can see why Kiry Air-Ride would have it, seeing as Hal makes both games. And with that, you will be able to get everything, that is definetly cool.

[Toasty]

Well technically, Hal Labs isn't makeing SSBB. One of the heads of Hal Labs and his team (Sora Ltd.) are makeing it. But yeah, it was awesome in Air-Ride, so it's going to be a good addition.

[Drizzy Drake]

This will be nice, seeing as it took me forever to get all the stages, but then I jsut GameFaqs`d it.

[gsninja]

Brawl Central just opened up its very own forums for the first time at around 12:30 PM PST. Already, leaks are spreading there too. XD

Y'know, after researching info about Geno, I think he would actually be quite a nifty addition to Brawl. Having a puppet-like character as playable would be rather amusing. =P

[Toasty]

I joined. I think you all will know who I am. :)

[Mallick]

Lame update.

[Eugine]

Wow, GL was right. Brawl is delayed.
http://kotaku.com/344840/super-smash-bros-...icially-delayed

[TheEnglishman]

A month isn't a bad delay. I'm sure even the most ravenous Nintendo fan is willing to wait.

[Caael]

The most ravenous nintendo fan is probably getting his torch and pitchfork as we speak...

Doesnt affect us PAL gamers, we wont get it for months anyway.

[gsninja]

Just found out about the delay myself when I woke up. It made my day a little worse. D: Well, March 9th is better than the date some other retailers put up, which was March 31st.

I like this stage. I never played any Pikmin games, though, so I can't really relate to it. Still pretty cool.

[Toasty]

I like the stage, as it's different. 'Nuff said.

I'm dissapointed with the delay though. Regardless, I still have it pre-ordered, so I'm not worried about anything.

[My Best Wishes]

For the previous update (with the challanges), has he mentioned where you get the golden hammers?

Delayed again = Homo.
Anyone willing to be a cynic and say that this isn't the final delay?

[Nosferatu]

I'd be totally willing, but I'm not THAT pessimistic.
At least it isn't named Super Smash Bros Forever.

Cookie to whoever gets the joke.

[Mallick]

Nosferatu, on Jan 15 2008, 05:45 PM, said:

I'd be totally willing, but I'm not THAT pessimistic.
At least it isn't named Super Smash Bros Forever.

Cookie to whoever gets the joke.

XD


I CAN HAV SSBB PLZ?

[Golden Legacy]

Speaking from a financial viewpoint, the delay for SSBB makes some sense - remember that companies measure their profits in the fiscal calendar, which is different from the regular one - that is, net profits and revenues are calculated not for January to December, but for March to April of next year (for this specific case, the next fiscal year is from March 31st 2008 to April 1st 2009).

Releasing Brawl in March allows sales to pick up for the previous fiscal year and to have a good end-of-year bottom line in terms of profits, as well as giving a good jump-start for the following one as well.

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 15 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

Releasing Brawl in March allows sales to pick up for the previous fiscal year and to have a good end-of-year bottom line in terms of profits, as well as giving a good jump-start for the following one as well.

Wow, I was thinking of that, too. I guess that stock project I did in Economics actually did something else besides give me 100 points...XD

Anyways, I was assuming something along those lines myself. That, and Sakurai may just want to have us end up with even more excitement and hype than before. I mean, let's face it: even though our hype-o-meters plummeted for the time being, they're going to be filled in epic proportions again in a couple weeks, proportions even higher than before this delay..

[Toasty]

That actually makes sense.

Nosferatu, on Jan 15 2008, 05:45 PM, said:

I'd be totally willing, but I'm not THAT pessimistic.
At least it isn't named Super Smash Bros Forever.

Cookie to whoever gets the joke.

Duke Nukem?

[Folcon]

I woner how much Nintendo stock costs right now. I might buy some before Brawl comes out and see how much it goes up after release.

[Linear]

BLLAAHHH!!! MARCH!!!
*Weeps*
Oh well. At least I found this.

CONFIRMATION!!! AHAHAHAHHAA!!! x___x''
*Drools* x.x Sexy.

http://i17.tinypic.com/6t5wvgj.jpg

[gsninja]

I know, I totally spazzed out when I first saw that picture! My main now has direct proof of her inclusion, still as Zelda's Down + B move. =D Hopefully, it's not some extremely good yet fake Photoshopping. =|

[Linear]

gsninja, on Jan 15 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

I know, I totally spazzed out when I first saw that picture! My main now has direct proof of her inclusion, still as Zelda's Down + B move. =D Hopefully, it's not some extremely good yet fake Photoshopping. =|

Check the difference out, then:
http://i3.tinypic.com/6l8kawi.jpg

Notice that Sheik now has more bandages and wrappings and the color of her gauntlets/gloves are. I'd say more, but yeah...there. Just decided to add more details to fit. Whoo... ~

[gsninja]

Yeah, I already noticed the differences. Her wraps are a bit different, her clothes are noticeably darker, and she's sexier.

>.>

Still, I like to be wary.

[Nosferatu]

It's not too hard to guess what the update is.

Well, apparently it looks like there was a version of Shiek being made for TP, but never made it in.

[Blue]

Hell yea! I knew Shiek was going to be in it the entire time!

[gsninja]

I KNEW MY MAIN WOULD MAKE IT! <3

Honestly, this is the best update by far. This will also definitely put an end to all the gender debates just by looking at the pictures. Not only does she have a badass ponytail, she just looks spectacular overall. Plus, Link's reaction is priceless.

[Nosferatu]

gsninja, on Jan 15 2008, 11:16 PM, said:

Plus, Link's reaction is priceless.

Okay, good. I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines.

[Toasty]

LOL.

Anyway, some nintendo fanboys at my highschool say that Zelda changes gender when becomeing Sheik, and I was like "Wtf? Are you high?" And they're like "but look at those pecs!" and I was like "dude.....thats not a guy." And they still think she's a he.

[EDIT] Remember this?

So far, it's been right. Shiek was the next on the list for veterans, and Shiek was the next one to be announced. Normally I'd say don;t get your hopes up, but seriously. The odds of it being right twice in a row were pretty slim, if you consider it a fake.

[Nosferatu]

You've got a point. And I was looking through Brawl Central's forums yesterday, and someone found that the same actress who is doing the voice for Knuckle Joe and ZSS, is also doing some voicing for Krystal. It's on IDBM somewhere.

If Krystal (or Jiggly) is announced next, we might just be getting somewhere.

[My Best Wishes]

My computer doesn't seem to display today's update on the american site, wierd.
Eh, Shiek was never one of my best characters.

[gsninja]

On the American site, you had to go to Characters to view Sheik before she appeared on the front page.

Anyways, Krystal is almost surely confirmed by now. There have been pretty good bits of evidence, although I can't remember what they are.

[Golden Legacy]

The voice actor for Krystal reportedly said that she was doing some voice work for the game, though whether it'll be as an Assist Trophy or Playable Character is still not certain.

At any rate, WONDERFUL update! I love how Sheik's model has been updated to fit the Twilight Princess theme more, she looks absolutely sleek and amazing.

With this update, there is now a subtle change; notice the chart in Sheik's profile that details her special moves and final smash? Well, if you go to the characters page on the site, this chart is there for ALL the other characters too! Definitely worth checking out.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm not too excited but that's probably because I never used Sheik much.

[Folcon]

gsninja, on Jan 16 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

Anyways, Krystal is almost surely confirmed by now. There have been pretty good bits of evidence, although I can't remember what they are.

who is Krystal?

[Caael]

http://www.gametrail...ayer/29714.html

You guys might like this, lots of gameplay footage.

[gsninja]

escout, on Jan 16 2008, 10:52 AM, said:

who is Krystal?

Krystal is a character from the Star Fox series.She uses a staff, which is cool considering no one else in Brawl does.

Nice footage there, Caael.

[Golden Legacy]

Earth Dude, on Jan 16 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

http://www.gametrail...ayer/29714.html

You guys might like this, lots of gameplay footage.

Good find Caael.

Also, Brawl has received a perfect score of 40/40 from the Japanese gaming magazine, Famitsu.

[Drizzy Drake]

And that's rare. They are srict with ratings. Only 6 games, well 7 now, have gotten a 40/40.

[Envy]

I'm not too worried about Famitsu's rating. All that matters to me is my opinion. XD

I mean a lot of people said Metroid Prime was great, but I never liked it.

I'm still under the impression that Brawl will disappoint... At least a little bit.

[Drizzy Drake]

Famitzu gave it a PERFECT rating, that's good dude. Ha. What I'm saying is, if they say it's good, I tend to believe them. I thought it was good anyway, but this jsut helps bakc it up, plus the game footage :P.

[Blue]

Envy, on Jan 16 2008, 04:30 PM, said:

I'm not too worried about Famitsu's rating. All that matters to me is my opinion. XD

I mean a lot of people said Metroid Prime was great, but I never liked it.

I'm still under the impression that Brawl will disappoint... At least a little bit.

You realize your probably going to hell for saying that right? XD just kidding.

[gsninja]

Isn't Famistsu supposed to be rather rigorous at the least when it comes to rating games? Giving Brawl a 40/40 means that it really is at least a good game, most likely a spectacular game.

[Drizzy Drake]

They give harsh and strict ratings. So 40/40 is a great game in their eyes. 7 games in the history of Famitsu has gotten a 40/40 rating. FFX was one of them I believe

[Linear]

x.x Well, that brought some life back into me...now to see some updates about them and what not. The blank pages must be filled!

[Blue]

So what do you guys think tonights update will be? Maybe we'll see the Final Smash for Zelda/Shiek, since it looks like its the same move

[gsninja]

It doesn't look like the same move, it IS the same move. The image of Sheik using a Light Arrow is so freakin' cool.

[Blue]

gsninja, on Jan 16 2008, 08:18 PM, said:

It doesn't look like the same move, it IS the same move. The image of Sheik using a Light Arrow is so freakin' cool.

Yeah, thats basicly what I meant. :P

[Toasty]

Someone on Smash boards called this one a while ago. Olimar's FS is his spaceship.

[Nosferatu]

Alright. Revive!

Well, it would appear something has changed on the Brawl site. They added the B moves and Final Smash at the bottom of each character I believe. Zero Suit Samus' FS appears to be called "Power Suit Samus". So I'm assuming she transforms back into normal Samus.

[gsninja]

Anyone see the new Whobby updates on Brawl Central?

"Ike just owned some Charizard."

I lol'd. XD So far, both Whobby updates have had one report in which it says something about Ike's power.

[Nosferatu]

Here we go. Some good info on character numbers. It's from Brawl Central, just thought I'd post it here though.

Quote

My translator gave me a summary of that the image says. Here's what he had to say:

The top paragraph simply says that compared to Melee's 25 character roster, this time around Brawl will have 48 characters, nearly twice as much as Melee.

The next paragraph talks about Snake being included in the game and how it's sort of a crossover in fighting from a different series and not just Nintendo. But it mentions he was in a similar crossover fighting game a while ago called Dream Mix. Then it mentions Sonic and how he's also in a Nintendo/Mario game (Olympics). And Lucas is mentioned as he was going to be in Melee, but because the game didnt come out for the GBA in time, he wasn't in Melee.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3058/brawl48dj8.jpg

We're not even sure if this image is real of rake, but that's what the text says. Supposedly, this image is from Oita Godo-Shinbun, a Japanese newspaper.

Edit: I would also like to bring this back up, as it has 42 characters.

Things are starting to get a bit close together, hmm?

[gsninja]

Meh, I don't really trust Brawl Central's translations much. They're always awkward and, for some part, incorrect. Who knows, though?

Anyways, according to those translations, Ness isn't coming back.

[Drizzy Drake]

I know it wasn't confirmed, but didn't everybody assume as much because Lucas came in.

[gsninja]

Skidzorz, on Jan 19 2008, 01:35 PM, said:

I know it wasn't confirmed, but didn't everybody assume as much because Lucas came in.

Well, somewhat. Ness could have a different moveset if he comes back, for all we know. Still, it's true that most did assume that Lucas is Ness' replacement.

[Nosferatu]

gsninja, on Jan 19 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

Well, somewhat. Ness could have a different moveset if he comes back, for all we know. Still, it's true that most did assume that Lucas is Ness' replacement.

Personally, I think Lucas did replace Ness. Why would Ness need a different moveset if he was the character who originally had it? That's my arguement.

Edit: I know this might be a BIT much to ask, but could a mod update the poll?

[My Best Wishes]

Why would they replace Ness though? What does Lucas have that Ness doesn't, isn't Ness the main character in Earthbound or whatever? I won't be happy seeing as he's my favourite character.

[Drizzy Drake]

I think Lucas was main character for Eathbound 3. It's like replacing Roy/Marth for Ike. New game in the series.

[Nosferatu]

I would like to state a nice find here.

In the section that shows which characters can only wear them. Sure the images could be photoshoped, but go watch the video on the official site. Jigglypuff, Ness and Lucario (I need to Google what Pokemon that is...) confirmed.


Edit: Ah. Stop. We've got a problem Houston..

http://boards.ign.co...13/157631792/p1

[Toasty]

HOLY FRIKKIN' CRAP. Some guy on those forums joined last october and has a frikkin' ELEVEN THOUSAND POSTS. W. T. F.

Anyway, nice find. I'd rather have Lucario in there than Mewtwo, but who knows.

[Nosferatu]

Wait. Just de-confirmed myself. I thought we might have a problem as the IGN version I downloaded got RID of those signs. Only the Japanese site kept the symbols.

****ing go Japan!

Link reposted.

[Toasty]

If that's true though, that Lucario got in, then it deconfirms this:

http://www.thewiieff...wl-roster-leak/

Which means Isaac isn't almost confirmed anymore.

[Nosferatu]

Quite. I've never even heard of people wanting Lucario in so Isaac should be in by my opinion.

[Toasty]

I agree. But Lucario would fit in way better than Mewtwo, so hopefully Mewtwo is axed. I'd still rather have Isaac in than anybody else. I just hope they don't make him crappy.

[Golden Legacy]

Wait, I'm sorry, how do those images/video confirm Lucario, Ness, and Jigglypuff?

EDIT: Never mind, I figured out why. Wow... and to think that it would be that subtle to find... nice job to the person who found this.

[Nosferatu]

Light Arrow looks kinda easy to dodge...

Anyway, what B moves with Ness have now? We all know Ness IS the original, so he should keep his moveset... But Lucas has it... Hmm.

[Drizzy Drake]

They could Luigify his moves.

[Envy]

Dude of Wind, on Jan 20 2008, 10:58 PM, said:

If that's true though, that Lucario got in, then it deconfirms this:

http://www.thewiieff...wl-roster-leak/

Which means Isaac isn't almost confirmed anymore.

That roster was deconfirmed a long time ago. The person who made it said it was fake. I don't understand why everybody was still believing it. :(

[Golden Legacy]

Skidzorz, on Jan 21 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

They could Luigify his moves.

I've never understood what that term meant. Someone explain?

Envy, on Jan 21 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

That roster was deconfirmed a long time ago. The person who made it said it was fake. I don't understand why everybody was still believing it. :(

It's because it's thus far matched the Dojo perfectly. Remember the character drought after King Dedede was revealed? The next newcomer that was revealed was Olimar - same on the list. Remember the last veteran (the Ice Climbers) were revealed in September of last year? The next veteran that Sakurai confirmed was Sheik - again, same as on the list.

It's unfortunate that it's fake, because it's very well-done and a great selection of characters.

[Drizzy Drake]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 21 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

I've never understood what that term meant. Someone explain?

Well Luigi has basically the same moves as Mario, with minor differences, and that is what the term means. Like give Ness a similar moveset to Lucas, but also a little different. SO not a clone, but not a fully original moveset.

[Folcon]

I hope tomorrow's update is acctualy something new and interesting, and not just info on someone's FS. I want a new character or interseting stage. Or some more music tracks and videos.

[Toasty]

Envy, on Jan 21 2008, 01:51 PM, said:

That roster was deconfirmed a long time ago. The person who made it said it was fake. I don't understand why everybody was still believing it. :(

This is from the site that posted the Brawl roster leak:

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http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9787/fa...zi6.png

It’s fake and I am the creator of it. Sorry to have gotten your hopes up.

If you go to that picture, you'll find that this is the adress in the URL box:

http://boards.gamefa...p?modid=6051199

Go to it, and you get an error message.

Of course, GameFaqs might've deleted the content on that page because it was intended to misslead, or the guy is good at photoshopping. Honestly, it wouldn't take long for me to photoshop the image he posted. An hour and a half tops.

However, the video and images posted on that other site pretty much deconfirm the roster leak, but I'm still intrigued on how it predicted two characters in a row, and in the right order.

[Drizzy Drake]

Do we know Lucario's moveset yet?

[d0tS]

I don't think so, since the only way he's been confirmed was on a "mistake". I personally think they did it on purpose to create hype, etc.

[Nosferatu]

A Pokeball character.

Come on Sakurai. Don't dodge the topic.

[Laharl]

Someone in Japan got brawl early, early leaked list of unlockable characters is early (gogo babalfish):

Spoiler

Snake (metal gear)
Sonic (sonic)
C. Falcon (F-ZERO)
Luigi (Luigi's Mansion)
Purine (Pokemon)
GANONDOROFU (Zelda)
Mr game and watch (game watch)
FARUKO (star fox)
UTSU ƒ… Mi (Pokemon)
Ness (MOTHER)
Mars (Fire)
Bowser Jr. (Mario)
Black shadow (F-ZERO)
KURURU (Donkey Kong)
Crystal (star fox)
Luke Rio (Pokemon)
ORIMA & Pikmin (Pikmin)
Hawks circle (village rainy castle)

source: http://game13.2ch.ne...com/1200975721/

^____________^

[Nosferatu]

laharl the slayer, on Jan 21 2008, 11:38 PM, said:

Spoiler

Snake (metal gear)
Sonic (sonic)
C. Falcon (F-ZERO)
Luigi (Luigi's Mansion)
Purine (Pokemon)
GANONDOROFU (Zelda)
Mr game and watch (game watch)
FARUKO (star fox)
UTSU ƒ… Mi (Pokemon)
Ness (MOTHER)
Mars (Fire)
Bowser Jr. (Mario)
Black shadow (F-ZERO)
KURURU (Donkey Kong)
Crystal (star fox)
Luke Rio (Pokemon)
ORIMA & Pikmin (Pikmin)
Hawks circle (village rainy castle)

Spoiler

What is Utsu?

And why is Lucario not in there?

[Laharl]

i believe it is not a complete list as said person hasnt unlocked everything yet

and regarding

Spoiler

utsu

i have no idea what it is in english

[Toasty]

That list made absolutely no sense to me a all.

[Laharl]

i shall attempt to translate

Spoiler

Snake (metal gear)
Sonic (sonic)
C. Falcon (F-ZERO)
Luigi (Luigi's Mansion)
Purine (Pokemon) - Jigglypuff
GANONDOROFU (Zelda) - Ganondorf
Mr game and watch (game watch)
FARUKO (star fox) - Falco
UTSU ƒ… Mi (Pokemon) - Mewtwo (????)
Ness (MOTHER)
Mars (Fire) - Marth
Bowser Jr. (Mario)
Black shadow (F-ZERO)
KURURU (Donkey Kong) - King K. Rool
Crystal (star fox)
Luke Rio (Pokemon) - Lucario
ORIMA & Pikmin - Captain Olimar & Pikmin
Hawks circle (village rainy castle)

not looking good fir Isaac, maybe he'll be an assist trophy or just a regular trophy

EDIT TIME

Spoiler

Hawks circle (village rainy castle)

is actually

Spoiler

Takamaru, the protagonist of the Japan-Only Famicom Disk System title, Nazo no Murasame-jō.

http://usuarios.lycos.es/geng/Smash/Newcom...Takamaru001.jpg

he looks cool despite the fact i've never heard of him XD

also its looking pretty certain that

Spoiler

UTSU ƒ… Mi

is

Spoiler

Mewtwo (myutsu)

[Golden Legacy]

... And on what basis are we saying this "leak" is true?

[Laharl]

um....because its from the actual game?

it is quite perplexing how you can pray and pray for a leak then shoot it down the moment it appears.

les put it this way, the site i heard it from , the poster only bothers posting things of this magnititude and he's not been wrong yet

[Caael]

But a lot of japanese nerds are going to want attention, saying they have a leaked Brawl copy. I doubt it's even possible to have a game leaked, they've probably only just started shipping.

[Laharl]

Did someone video of the game being played?

admittedly that character roster isnt there, but people do have the game

[Caael]

That could easily have been from that tech demo they had in Japan or something. No proof of that video being filmed in somebody's house.

[Laharl]

http://www13.atwiki.jp/sumaburax/

japanese smash bros/nintendo wiki has the same information in hiragana

the game is released a week tomorrow in Japan , is it really that to believe that someone could have a copy? or are you just in denial because your precious Isaac and Ridley arent there?

i've made my case, we'll see for sure next week

[Drizzy Drake]

Because guaranteed that somebody will try to unlock every character, and then post it first on the net.

[Laharl]

exactly, someone will hammer til their eyes bleed and unlock the majority of stuff within 24 hours

i know i would XD

[TheEnglishman]

Getting back to the update, I think it's an interesting idea. Suddenly switching to a different character can make the matches interesting.

[Drizzy Drake]

Wait, what is this new update?

[TheEnglishman]

I mean the one about Manaphy.
http://www.smashbros...n_us/index.html

[Drizzy Drake]

COuld you copy/paste, cause I can't view that site.

[TheEnglishman]

Quote

It’s Manaphy! This Pokémon also appeared in a movie.

This Manaphy is quite different from the other Pokémon that appear in this game. So much so that you’ll think, is this even possible?! Or words to that effect.



It appears from the Poké Ball!



Heart Swaaaaaaaaap!



.........

Nothing happened...? No. That is not so.

Why, Zelda and DK have switched bodies! Wait... You mean, I’m her, and she’s me?!



AAAUUUGGGHHH!

You have to fight as your opponent for a while! They say it’s good to know your enemy.

But you haven’t really swapped places, so if you jump off the edge, it counts as a self-destruct for you. And your damage meter remains as it was.



After a certain amount of time, you go back to normal.
Phew. Good.

Things always seem to end well in this game, don’t they?

It looks strange without the images.

[Laharl]

its beyond pointless, quite why you'd want to leave the character your good with to control one you're not so good with is beyond me

[Drizzy Drake]

It changes the pace of the game. That will be fun.

[Laharl]

fun in multiplayer maybe

not so fun in events and 1 player modes on the harder difficulties

[Drizzy Drake]

Well ya. But it is just a pokeball right, so just don't pick up the pokeballs.

Or, run away.

[Laharl]

i dont think you can run away, probably comes out as often as Mew and the like

[TheEnglishman]

When I said it would be interesting, I meant in multiplayer. It wouldn't be convient during other times, but you'd just have to hope you don't get it.

[Drizzy Drake]

I mean, when you swap bodies, jsut run away from the guy untill it changes back. And it would have to be atleast a little more often than Mew.

[Laharl]

"running away" doesnt help much against lvl 9 opponents

[Drizzy Drake]

laharl the slayer, on Jan 22 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

"running away" doesnt help much against lvl 9 opponents

It did in Terminia Bay. Stand on one paltform, then jump under the main platform and you get to the other paltform. It works every time. They jsut keep moving back and forth untill you switch back.

[Caael]

laharl the slayer, on Jan 22 2008, 08:03 PM, said:

http://www13.atwiki.jp/sumaburax/

japanese smash bros/nintendo wiki has the same information in hiragana

the game is released a week tomorrow in Japan , is it really that to believe that someone could have a copy? or are you just in denial because your precious Isaac and Ridley arent there?

i've made my case, we'll see for sure next week

I dont give a damn about Brawl, i'd much rather play Halo or COD4 than Brawl. So many people claim to have leaked copies of games before they're released and turns out that when the game is released, all the stuff they said is wrong.

[Drizzy Drake]

Somebody is PMSing.

*Cough*Caeel*Cough*.

[Laharl]

Earth Dude, on Jan 22 2008, 09:05 PM, said:

I dont give a damn about Brawl, i'd much rather play Halo or COD4 than Brawl. So many people claim to have leaked copies of games before they're released and turns out that when the game is released, all the stuff they said is wrong.

you post an awful lot in the brawl thread for someone "who doesnt give a damn" :b

[Caael]

I used to post loads about half a year ago, but i've posted like 4 times this year.

[Golden Legacy]

Did no one see the additional update today? There's an interview between Iwata and Sakurai, it gives some good perspective into the creation of Brawl. It even identifies the game company that contributed staff to the project. (100 people on a project is inasne).

[Drizzy Drake]

In my Nintendo Power that I just got it revealed some of the new Pokemon. Celebi is like Mew was, but Mew also comes back. Piplup, Munchlaz, and Deoxys join as Pokemon that do damage.

[Laharl]

Skid reads Nintendo Power, his opinion is void XP

I knew about the interview, i just didnt care about it, Sakurai's a ****

[Drizzy Drake]

I read Nintendo Power so my opinion is void? WTF.

[Toasty]

It makes you a fanboy. :ph34r:

http://us.wii.com/iw.../vol1_page1.jsp

^For anyone who wants to read the interview. The link on the Brawl site doesn't take you to it directly.