[Aquamarine]

Although this Adventure thingy sounds great, I don't like that it has a story, even if it is as crap as it is. Also, Smash Bros. was all about the multiplayer, and now I'm just afraid they put too much into the single player. But I love that it'll have cutscenes of each character and character development. That's just rocks.

[Nosferatu]

I think they'll do Adventure mode perfectly. Dark Samus is most likely to be a boss in Adventure mode. Ridley has a 50/50 chance, he HAS battle music, but it could also be a level.

Or they could have listened to the PLANET and made him a character.

[Sea of Time]

Adventure mode in SSBM kind of sucked, it still bowed to Classic mode. But I think that SSBB will build on their mistakes, and actually make an in-depth adventure mode that takes longer than ten minutes to beat. Hopefully.

[Viridian Tiger]

Hm... Yes, the Adventure Mode in SSBM wasn't really in-depth, but I did like the Underground Maze level.^^ Hopefully, if they do build upon their mistakes, everyone can have much more fun and probably encounter characters from the games that are based upon the stages. Such as a Mario stage, you encounter characters such as Yoshi, Toads, and so on. It'd be nice if you could also battle them. ^^ I also have no idea where I'm going with this.

[MysticWarrior]

More single player modes is fine as long as they don't sacrifice anything from the multiplayer. SSB will always be a multiplayer game in my eyes.

[Ironsight]

I agree, Multiplayer was definitly were it was at in Melee

[Nosferatu]

They just need to improve the story, and keep the fightin where it was.

Even IGN with it's crappy reviewers will have to give it a 9.5 or up.

[Golden Legacy]

MysticWarrior, on Aug 21 2007, 10:27 PM, said:

More single player modes is fine as long as they don't sacrifice anything from the multiplayer. SSB will always be a multiplayer game in my eyes.

MW! It's been so long, how've you been?

I don't think Sakurai would be foolish enough to detract from the multi-player - I think it's about time a fleshed out single-player mode was introduced, and this looks to be exactly that.

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Aug 21 2007, 01:08 PM, said:

I think they'll do Adventure mode perfectly. Dark Samus is most likely to be a boss in Adventure mode. Ridley has a 50/50 chance, he HAS battle music, but it could also be a level.

Or they could have listened to the PLANET and made him a character.

The area in the planet, you mean. It's all on zebes.

It said Ridley BOSS BATTLE, because it's the music you hear when you fight him in the games. It doesn't make a difference on whether he'll be playable or not. Besides, this is Sakurais's list:

King Dedede(5)
Diddy Kong(4)
Geno(4)
Ike(4)
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3)
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2)
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2)
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)

Aside from the stupid ones, ( so basically from the AC MC and Below, excluding Isaac), they all have decent sized chances, because it's what the public wants.

Sakurai also stated he would like to have more villains in the game, as there was an obvious lack of them last time. Ridley is to Samus like Bowser is to Mario. Would you not include Bowser?

Also, Sakurai also wanted more flying people, so that he could make the aerial combat more prominent. Ridley fits this perfectly, as he is more based around flying than any of the current Smash characters.

Sakurai also would like lots more metroid characters, as in the past 2 games, there was only one, and now it has become one of the most popular franchises Nintendo have. It doesn't make sense to just have 1 and a half characters for it, it needs at the very least, 1 more character. Dark Samus wont do, we cant just have 3 Samuses.

Dont go giving the ' He's too big' arguement, because you will fail. Look at Bowser in Mario 64. He was huge compared to mario. Look at him in melee. He's only about a head bigger than Mario.




And the update isn't working for me, not loading at all. I checked all the different languages, and none are working.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Aug 22 2007, 12:53 AM, said:

The area in the planet, you mean. It's all on zebes.

By "listen to the PLANET" I meant EARTH. People that exist. LISTENING to people.

You know? Real life? It's seperate from the internet.

[Caael]

Diddy will be happy about this



Ooohhhh I get what you mean. Yeah, I know real life. Good friend of mine. Awesome dude, lot more fun than that internet loser. He keeps bringing me back, no matter what I do about it.

[Nosferatu]

.....I am actually wordless. If I had words to describe how dissapointed I am, they'd be accustomed by much more swearing then you have ever seen.

And relating to an earlier post, no I don't care about the size thing. I'd be glad for him to just be in it. Bowser dwarfed Mario in Sunshine, and Ridley dwarfs Samus in Prime. They could easily shrink Ridley a bit. Almost to how big he was compared to Samus in the original Metroid. But you know, the real Ridley, not the original Metroid Ridley.

[My Best Wishes]

They'd be accustomed? You mean joined or something like that?

Hmm hopefully Diddy won't be a clone of anyone (A weak DK)

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Aug 22 2007, 02:40 AM, said:

They'd be accustomed? You mean joined or something like that?

I meant that if I had words to describe what I thought when I saw Diddy's update, there would probably be more swearing then normal words. Bah I don't know what I mean. Just a load of pissed off me.

Maybe I'll post that later when I have words.

No clones please. Captain Falcon was a really annoying clone of Ganon already.

[Caael]

What's wrong with Diddy?

Infact, do you like anything?

[I'm Always BROKE]

:D

[Nosferatu]

I don't mind him. Donkey Kong just happened to be a pain, so I'm not expecting much from Diddy.

I like every character so far but Donkey Kong. Just like I hated Ness in SSBM.

[Caael]

I hate Ness in general. I hate earthbound. I hate it all. Blow up. Die, Earthbound.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Aug 22 2007, 03:03 AM, said:

I hate Ness in general. I hate earthbound. I hate it all. Blow up. Die, Earthbound.

Okay, now I like you.

Aside from the fact you're also a Metroid fan. Which I also like.

[My Best Wishes]

Big whoop. You hated Ness in SSBM. Mind you some fantastic characters were released then, Marth, Roy, Flaco.
Not compared to SSB in which the only worthwhile characters are Ness, Link, Samus and Fox.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Aug 22 2007, 03:41 AM, said:

Big whoop. You hated Ness in SSBM. Mind you some fantastic characters were released then, Marth, Roy, Flaco.
Not compared to SSB in which the only worthwhile characters are Ness, Link, Samus and Fox.

I'm fairly good with Roy, Falco, Fox and Link. Samus I just whoop with.

I like characters with speed, long range and close range attacks. Much more strategic value.

[I'm Always BROKE]

watch, on Aug 22 2007, 12:41 PM, said:

Big whoop. You hated Ness in SSBM. Mind you some fantastic characters were released then, Marth, Roy, Flaco.
Not compared to SSB in which the only worthwhile characters are Ness, Link, Samus and Fox.

In SSB Kirby, Ness and Pikachu where all godly characters... Especially Ness.
Melee nerfed all 3 characters to hell, and thus made them a lot less populair nowadays. And to be honest here: Link, Samus and Luigi are still considered being the worst characters in SSB, and the slowest aswell.

But that's not saying anything, you should play the character you wanna play as, like I do play Donkey Kong in Melee knowing that he BY FAR isn't the best character nor even close to that. He does have nasty combos against fastfallers however.

And I said it before and I'm saying it again: Roy = crap. Crappy aerials, slower and laggier than Marth, much shorter reach than Marth and easy to combo. Falco and Marth are both Top Tier characters though, and should both be nerfed to hell in Brawl... BUWAHAHAH.

Now that Diddy's confirmed, I can't wait to play this game already. ;) Now only add K.Rool as an unlockable, and I'm truely happy.

[Golden Legacy]

Personally, I hope tiers are done away with in Brawl... Smash should be played for fun, not the way the "elite" 1% of players do when they play on one stage, no items, and use the same three characters.

[Caael]

Well said, GL. If Brawl has online, I wont be playing it. Too many people will be strutting around like they own the place, and just thinking they will win every match they play. ****y twats.

[Blue]

If its online I will be playing. I know there will be the twats, but I would like to try to get as good as this game as I can.

[Aquamarine]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 22 2007, 07:50 PM, said:

Personally, I hope tiers are done away with in Brawl... Smash should be played for fun, not the way the "elite" 1% of players do when they play on one stage, no items, and use the same three characters.

I love you, GL. That's exactly what I've been saying for years. These so-called "experts" can **** off and live their meaningless Smash-obsessed lives somewhere else. I hate it when people are all "OMG LIEK FOX IS UBER CAUSE THATS WHAT TH EXPERT SAY!LOL1"

I'll be playing online all the time, but I'll avoid playing with any of the "experts" who think they're so much better than everyone. I'll be playing with the people who are good, but learned to play well through fun and can use more than one character. Like me.

[Caael]

I know.

OMG SHEEK IS LIEK BETTA THAN FOX BCUZ SHE CAN METEOR SPIKE PEOPLXZ BETTA AND SHE HAS TEH UB3R WAVEDASH!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111


I want them all to die, slowly and painfully. Especially one retard who says he thinks anybody who doesn't play competitively as animals.

Who's the animal now?

[My Best Wishes]

Caael, on Aug 23 2007, 04:13 AM, said:

Well said, GL. If Brawl has online, I wont be playing it. Too many people will be strutting around like they own the place, and just thinking they will win every match they play. ****y twats.

Like the 'twats' that play Mario Soccer and have 300 games played in one day.

I wish there would be sort of like a ranking system, but more in how extreme you want to play.
Hopefully they fix Ness's B move.

[Blue]

You know, I have a feeling that Isaac will be in this game, but as a secret character. I mean, come on, they put in Pokemon Trainer, anything is possible.

[Toasty]

I only use fox because I can't seem to land any hits at all unless I have a speedy character. And I like fox more than falco.
I do like to play competitively, since I usually choose Hyrule Temple, no items, and I alwyas use the same character, but I also play for just the fun of it from time to time.

But I very rarely use a different character. I just prefer the ones that bring out the best of my skill, despite the fact the I've seriously lost my edge. ;)

I DEFINATELY hope they make SSBB online capable. I hate haveing to play against CPU's.

[Nosferatu]

Smash Bros is about fun, but items can help someone who sucks beat someone who can actually win. Unless it's just a **** around match, items shouldn't be used. Fighting games are about SKILL, not random luck.

[Blue]

Thats not true, not true at all. Playing fighting games that don't have items, like Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Not only is there skill, but some times you have to get lucky to win a match.

[Nosferatu]

I'll give it to you for that one, but I meant item wise.

There's no honour in bragging you beat someone good at a Melee match if you just won by using a Pokeball or a hammer.

[Tasuki]

I turn off Item when I battle.

[Blue]

Nosferatu, on Aug 22 2007, 11:05 PM, said:

I'll give it to you for that one, but I meant item wise.

There's no honour in bragging you beat someone good at a Melee match if you just won by using a Pokeball or a hammer.

Certain items are indeed extremely cheap, but some add some extra depth. I for one carry skills for item and item-less battles. I say that items always makes Smash Bros. much more fun. Like say some one was about to throw a Bomb-omb at you, if you can time it right you can grab it after its thrown and throw it back. Those kind of moments make me laugh.

[Nosferatu]

I prefer to let the bomb fly past and slaughter them for using it in the first place.

[Blue]

Nosferatu, on Aug 22 2007, 11:14 PM, said:

I prefer to let the bomb fly past and slaughter them for using it in the first place.

That is also fun. My friend does that whenever I try it on him, for he hates the Bomb-omb. xD

[Nosferatu]

Hmm.

New update in a bit, maybe. Hoping for something like a new stage.

[Blue]

I want to see Yoshi's Final Smash. Giant Egg crushes everyone maybe?

[Nosferatu]

You got your wish, eh? Pretty impressive.

[Blue]

Yes, and its better then a Giant Egg. *Super Dragon Yoshi facing Giga Bowser*
"So, who's got the hotter flame?"

[Someone Else]

I remember the Hammer from SSBM. That was just ridiculous.

[Blue]

Well, thing is, I have a way of getting through it. The ground pound can usually neglect the damage and go straight down onto the hammer usually.

[Caael]

I just go onto a high ledge. Cant double jump with the hammer. I just laugh and drop morph bombs on them.

Edit: Update.

Damn, why do they have to ruin my day?
' Heroes always arrive late'

I DONT WANT A GODDAMN AC CHARACTER!!! GRRR!

[Toasty]

When ever I use items, I prefer throwing items. Small throwing items. Especially Bob-Ombs. When I used to use Kirby, and then Roy, I'd hit almost all of my targets when I chucked those things. After a while, I just got a feel for the trajectory, and just by looking at the stage and where I was at, I could hit my target fairly easily. I find it easiest to hit 'em if you run and jump, because then you an have a wider range of trajectories available.

Other than that, Poke' Balls, Home Run Bat, Super Scope, and when I used Kirby, the warp star was another item I got good at using.

What I hate the most about Unlocking Roy, is that I became much better with him then I was with Kirby, but after a while I started sucking. At both of those characters. And I miss being good with Kirby, because he brought out the best of my fighting skills.
But Roy, well, he turned out to be really good with Bob-Ombs.
Still haven't figured out what I'm good with when using Fox.

[Split Infinity]

The website is taking FOREVER to load, can somebody summarise the updates which came after Link: Special Moves?

Post any images and I will attach my Ditto to your face.

[Nosferatu]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/yoshi/yoshi_070823c.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/diddykong/diddykong_070822b.jpg

That's the best I feel like giving for now.

[Split Infinity]

So he goes and hotlinks two images. Why did you even post, you lametard?

[Nosferatu]

Spam King, on Aug 23 2007, 08:29 AM, said:

So he goes and hotlinks two images. Why did you even post, you lametard?

Why not? I need something to do at 8:30 in the morning while a video is loading.

Besides, it's Smash Bros. What else do you need?

[Split Infinity]

If I could load images, I'd have visited the site myself. Is it so hard to make four or five dot points with three word summaries of each update?

What's your smartass answer this time?

[Nosferatu]

I'm tired and I don't give a rat's ass?
Blech. Just because Lord of the Universe here didn't get what he wanted:

Spoiler

- Diddy Kong is playable
- Yoshi's final smash lets him fly and shoot fire balls
- There's an adventure mode update that someone could explain better then me.

[Split Infinity]

I'd thank you, but I can't help feeling that you owe me for your attitude back there.

[Nosferatu]

Here's a cookie.

Wonder what tonight's could be... Come on Metroid stage.

[Caael]

Monday will be something Metroid related/ Ridley. I bet a cookie.

[Golden Legacy]

Wait, is it just me, or did we get two updates today? The Animal Crossing music, and Yoshi's Final Smash?

[Someone Else]

Geez, some of you need to take a forking chill pill. I just don't get the way some of you feel about this game, yeesh.

[Golden Legacy]

^ I'll leave someone else to challenge that statement.

And pretty neat, I like Yoshi's FS. It reminds me of Pikachu's Volt Tackle, the way you can move around and attack, though I wonder how long it will last?

[Someone Else]

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Chill-Pill-Mood-So...1QQcmdZViewItem

I'd buy some for you guys, but I don't trust eBay. ;)

[gsninja]

I doubt I'm the only one who saw this, but did any of you notice the reference to Super Mario World in Yoshi's Final Smash?

Blue Yoshi = Flying power

Red Yoshi = Fireball power

Too bad Yoshi wasn't able to get the ground-pounding power of the Yellow Yoshi...

[TheEnglishman]

Wind Dude, on Aug 23 2007, 06:32 PM, said:

Geez, some of you need to take a forking chill pill. I just don't get the way some of you feel about this game, yeesh.

I'd agree with that. Yes it's entertaining because it's got so many different characters and stages, but I wouldn't say it's something to be so excited about 3 months before it's released.

[Blue]

For all those who are being angry for no reason.
I will break your neck, and poor jelly over your body, and pray to the GODS of jelly, that you burn in a jelly like hell. Now chill out.

[Someone Else]

Blue, on Aug 23 2007, 12:32 PM, said:

For all those who are being angry for no reason.
I will break your neck, and poor jelly over your body, and pray to the GODS of jelly, that you burn in a jelly like hell. Now chill out.

Thank you!

[Blue]

Your welcome. Now we can go back to discussing the sauceomeness that is Yoshi.

[Golden Legacy]

gsninja, on Aug 23 2007, 02:47 PM, said:

I doubt I'm the only one who saw this, but did any of you notice the reference to Super Mario World in Yoshi's Final Smash?

Blue Yoshi = Flying power

Red Yoshi = Fireball power

Too bad Yoshi wasn't able to get the ground-pounding power of the Yellow Yoshi...

I knew it sounded so familiar! I love Super Mario World, I should have noticed that too, thanks. (Remember those colored shells that would give Yoshi all three powers combined?)

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 23 2007, 03:07 PM, said:

I knew it sounded so familiar! I love Super Mario World, I should have noticed that too, thanks. (Remember those colored shells that would give Yoshi all three powers combined?)

You're welcome. n.n And yeah, I do remember those shells.

Tomorrow's Hideo Kojima's birthday, so maybe Snake will be confirmed, or maybe a Metal Gear Solid type stage?

[Blue]

Actually, I noticed off the back, but didn't bother to say anything, hoping everyone would have known that by now. GSNinja is now my favorite for noticing it first.

[Nosferatu]

Well that means this Yoshi's special. He can do whatever he wants.
And I'm willing to take that cookie bet Caael.

Edit: Stumbled upon a picture I'm sure most people would love to actually see.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2495/giantnewcomer3ix9.jpg

[Split Infinity]

That is so not convincing. A little 3D rendering wouldn't have hurt.

[Nosferatu]

Would like to see. It wasn't a hoax thing. I just found in when searching images a while ago.

[Split Infinity]

Ridley is too thin and spiny to look in place on a Smash battlefield.

[Nosferatu]

How'd Pichu get in SSBM then?

No, really. How?

[Blue]

I bet Ridleys FS would be him turning into Metal Ridley or something. :XD

[Split Infinity]

Because Pichu was still a new Pokemon at that point, and people were already playing G/S like crazy.

[Nosferatu]

Blue, on Aug 23 2007, 11:55 PM, said:

I bet Ridleys FS would be him turning into Metal Ridley or something. :XD

That's what we have the metal box for. If it's in there...

Nah. I'd see it more being the plasma beam he fires out of his mouth from Prime. On a bigger scale though. Or he could just go Mecha-Ridley on us.

Spam King, on Aug 23 2007, 11:56 PM, said:

Because Pichu was still a new Pokemon at that point, and people were already playing G/S like crazy.

Yeah point taken. But they MUST have known he'd get his ass handed to him.

[Split Infinity]

Yeah, he's just the same old Pikachu, with the ability to inflict pain on himself. Emo.

[Nosferatu]

Not to mention lighter. They grow up so fast.
Well, there should be an update in a few minutes.

Edit: UPDATE.

Spoiler

Petey Piranha isn't playable, he's a boss. Confirmed now. You save whoever is in the cage you damage the most. What DOES happen to the other?

[Toasty]

I'm happy about this update. It means the adventure mode will have replay value.

[Nosferatu]

Do Smash Bros games need more replay value?

Oh hell yes. You can never have too much replay value.

[Toasty]

^ Well said.

But really, SSBB doesn't need more replay value as a whole, but the adventure mode does.

[Split Infinity]

Wow, I'm totally going to love playing through Adventure mode TWICE! ;)

[My Best Wishes]

Spam King, on Aug 24 2007, 04:52 PM, said:

Ridley is too thin and spiny to look in place on a Smash battlefield.

And Diddy Kong?

Shotgun saving Zelda, I hate Peach.

[Split Infinity]

At least Diddy Kong has some meat on him.

[Caael]

Wind Dude, on Aug 23 2007, 06:32 PM, said:

Geez, some of you need to take a forking chill pill. I just don't get the way some of you feel about this game, yeesh.

Well, not many games get given a daily update for fans to speculate about.

Twat said:

Ridley is too thin and spiny to look in place on a Smash battlefield.

http://spiridow.free.fr/mm/images/samus_ridley.jpg
O NOES he's got arms and legs! That obviously makes him too spindly and thin to be in Smash.

I will prove wrong, with evidence, and then mock those who doubt Ridley.

[My Best Wishes]

Caael you seem really fanboyish with this Ridley thing.

[Toasty]

It's worse than my buttered toast fetish.

Caael, do you sleep with a lifesized (human sized) Ridely doll at night?

[Nosferatu]

Dude, I'm not sure if that would be awesome or not.
I'm just as fanboyish over Ridley as Caael.

I just prefer my Ridley deep fried in plasma beam.

[gsninja]

Meh, I don't really like Ridley. If he makes it into the game, though, I'm not complaining. I'm trying out all the new characters, no matter who they are. :(

[Golden Legacy]

Today's update is sweet. The single-player mode is looking to be dynamic, and who knows how many possibilities there will be to progress? (And yes, I am definitely saving Zelda first... she's just so *pretty* [/zelda fanboy]).

On another note: next week is the much-anticipated release of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption... maybe Sakurai will have that big Metroid update we've been waiting for (i.e. Ridley)?

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 24 2007, 09:39 AM, said:

Today's update is sweet. The single-player mode is looking to be dynamic, and who knows how many possibilities there will be to progress? (And yes, I am [/i]definitely[/i] saving Zelda first... she's just so *pretty* [/zelda fanboy]).

Sorry, I had to laugh a little bit at that. XD

I'm saving Zelda first, as well.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I'm also gonna safe Zelda first. It just doesn't make sense for a Mario villian as Petey Piranha to kidnap Zelda in the first place. >_<; And GOD I'm relieved that Petey Piranha isn't playable! n_n

And I don't like to say this Caael, but this really has hurt Ridley's changes a lot. Not saying that he shouldn't make it, but it seems a little less likely now.

[Blue]

I'll try to damage both of them, if one gets free and the other doesn't, I'll play through again. But yeah, this is a real reason to play the 1 player mode more than once... With each character that is.

[gsninja]

I'm definitely going to free Zelda first, no matter what. =D

Of the confirmed newcomers, the one I want to play with most is Ike. Pokemon Trainer and Zero Suit Samus are to follow.

[Nosferatu]

Here's a nice little topic.

What will Diddy's FS be?
And will Zero Suit Samus HAVE a FS?

[My Best Wishes]

And which characters can we now expect to be just bosses in the Single player?

[Nosferatu]

Well I'd easily say Bowser is out.

I could see Dark Samus, Vaati (sp?), K. Rool (sp?) if he's not a character...and I can't think of many other at the moment.

[My Best Wishes]

I don't play many Nintey franchises apart from Mario and Zelda so my knowedgle is limited...What about the bad guy in LoZ-TP? The one before Ganondwarf?

[Nosferatu]

Oh, uhm....Zant.

Yeah, minus the fact that the bugger is quite insane, he'd make a good boss character.

[My Best Wishes]

He had some really good moves (bloody annoying) but good. He could summon those dark things you have to rip apart or something. Or maybe some boss from some long lost franchise, do the Star Foxe's have bosses?

[Nosferatu]

Andross.

And I was thinking, why not make the boost ball part of Samus' moveset? The dash + A could be just a quick boost in the morphball.

[Golden Legacy]

Yeah, Zant's insane... loved the battle though, only wish it were longer.

And I am absolutely bloody hoping that Vaati is playable. I want him about as much as Caael wants Ridley (well, all right, not quite as much... but still). And I can definitely picture Ganandorf having a unique moveset - in Twilight Princess,

Spoiler

that sword battle against him is mind-blowing, and I can definitely picture him with a sword, and his FS being his beast form

.

[Nosferatu]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 24 2007, 04:28 PM, said:

And I am absolutely bloody hoping that Vaati is playable. I want him about as much as Caael wants Ridley (well, all right, not quite as much... but still). And I can definitely picture Ganandorf having a unique moveset - in Twilight Princess,

Spoiler

that sword battle against him is mind-blowing, and I can definitely picture him with a sword, and his FS being his beast form

.

Yeah, Ganon having his sword for Brawl would be quite sweet. (That's not a spoiler cause he had a sword in OoT so hah. Your's was though.)

On the Samus + Boostball idea, it could also be Down + B, replacing the bombs. Not like they have much strategic value, except for the elitests who have to bomb jump their way back.

[Golden Legacy]

Nosferatu, on Aug 24 2007, 07:30 PM, said:

Yeah, Ganon having his sword for Brawl would be quite sweet. (That's not a spoiler cause he had a sword in OoT so hah. Your's was though.)

Heh, lucky that I remember to go back and edit in those spoiler tags, eh?

It would be sweet if Samus could "charge up" her morph ball bombs, into that huge power bomb that attacks everything in a small vicinity, i.e. the Prime games.

[Nosferatu]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 24 2007, 04:34 PM, said:

It would be sweet if Samus could "charge up" her morph ball bombs, into that huge power bomb that attacks everything in a small vicinity, i.e. the Prime games.

Okay, now that's a MUCH better idea for the bombs.

Boostball or that, and it's still in the open as they haven't said anything about Samus' B moves, except for Side + B and B.

[Golden Legacy]

Hey guys, look at the poll - I think that every week, from now on, a new poll will go up asking what update people liked most for those five days - my idea, my awesomeness :(

[Nosferatu]

Good idea, GL. If there was a points like thing, I'd do it. But instead I'll just go give ya a 5 star.

Edit: And the topic is now quite non-Aqua friendly!

[My Best Wishes]

What's a final smash...

[Toasty]

A final smash is like a super attack of sorts. You can only use it when you get a certain item, and the attack only lasts for a little while. Check the Brawl site for a better description.

[Split Infinity]

HEY!!

The weekly poll was my idea! D:<

[Blue]

Lol, Split was foiled.
I wonder who the next "Challenger" To be shown. I wonder if there is a chance that there can be a Square Enix character, after all, there are Square Enix composures in this game.

[Caael]

If you're gonna go by composers, than the Magical Starsign cast are in. Dont judge a game by it's composers.


Ridley on Tuesday, or at least something metroid related.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Aug 25 2007, 12:32 PM, said:

If you're gonna go by composers, than the Magical Starsign cast are in. Dont judge a game by it's composers.
Ridley on Tuesday, or at least something metroid related.

I vote yes to that idea.

Now, I have an external hard drive to set up.

[Golden Legacy]

Spam King, on Aug 25 2007, 04:04 AM, said:

HEY!!

The weekly poll was my idea! D:<

Oh really? My fault. :(

But man, if you think about it... the cast of Brawl is going to be huge! Go look at the character's page on the site. Right now, the Newcomers and Veterans that have been profiled number a solid 17; that's not counting characters we know are going to be in the roster, including Snake and Meta Knight as Newcomers, and Captain Falcon and Ness, who have both been in the game since the N64 original.

Count those in and that is 21 characters revealed on the site alone so far - not counting the fact that there are still three more months until the release (other newcomers and veteran characters are definitely going to be revealed in those many weeks still to come) and, most importantly, that Melee has only twenty-six characters (including Shiek and clone characters).

And speaking of clones, if we count that Melee had a lot of them (Mario/Dr. Mario, Link/Young Link, Captain Falcon/Ganondorf, Pikachu/Pichu, Fox/Falco) - guess how many unique characters there are? Only 21 - and Brawl has already matched that number in just a few months since the blog has been revealed.

Point being: the roster for Brawl is going to be comparatively much, much larger than originally expected, and that figure's only going to grow as the last months until release wind down.

[Caael]

I can name a lot of characters who should/will make the cut

Ridley
Dedede
Krystal
Olimar ( Woo!)
Simon Belmont ( Doubt it though. Would be cool)
Sonic
Cel Link

Thats 7 of the most popular picks for Brawl. That's 28 added to the number of current characters, and thats only 2 over melee. There will be a lot, lot more characters to come.

Yay!

[Folcon]

Krystal, Krystal. Who the hell is Krystal?

[TheEnglishman]

I think it's a Star Fox character. Not too sure though.

[Split Infinity]

Caael, on Aug 26 2007, 09:43 PM, said:

I can name a lot of characters who should/will make the cut

Ridley
Dedede
Krystal
Olimar ( Woo!)
Simon Belmont ( Doubt it though. Would be cool)
Sonic
Cel Link

I found this for ya: http://powet.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploa...brawl060706.jpg

[Caael]

Dang that rumour! I thought it was true when I first heard it!

[Nosferatu]

Metroid Prime 3 ships tonight. Maybe an update tonight for Ridley, or maybe tomorrow.
And yes I'm counting on it that much.

Edit: DAMNIT! Maybe tomorrow night.

New item is Kirby's. It was in the show, but I can't remember when.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Awesome new item. :rolleyes:

[Toasty]

Yeah. It's kinda like the cracker cannon, in which it fires automatically. I'd like to see how all these new items can be used.

[Caael]

Cool item.

* Hopes for Ridley tomorrow or Wednesday*



http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9316/ridleyslairvj7.png

I win for Ridley stage.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Did you made it yourself? Otherwise, how the hell could Samus ever go from the pink to the blue door without getting hit by the lava? :rolleyes: Can you also DIE in the stage? Cause it seems to me that the lava will pretty much be like the lava in the current Metroid stages, it would only sent you upwards.

[Caael]

You can die, in the description on smashboards, you bounce off the lava once, and if you dont recover, you'll fall through the next time. It's a stage for racking up damage.


Yeah, I made it myself.

[Nosferatu]

Awesome. And I'm going to post this in the Corruption thread, but I HIGHLY advise going here and checking out the songs. Caael, listen to 3:48 on in the Super Metroid boss medley.

The Prime main screen also rocks just as hard.

[gsninja]

Haha, Ridley wasn't in this update. =P

It looks like

Spoiler

Andross is an Assist Trophy.

Fun. =|

[Caael]

I wasn't expecting, I was just thinking if he was going to be revealed at all, it would be today.

[Golden Legacy]

Then again, last Friday was Hideo Kojima's birthday, and people were speculating that Sakurai would post something related to Snake, but didn't. Since he's a Japanese developer, he probably doesn't even know about Corruption, or at the least that it's being released today.

On a good note, another double update today - Andross as Assist Trophy, and some general information about a character's special B moves (Meta Knight is used as the model, so we get to see all of his moves - nice that Sakurai slipped that in).

~3333~

[gsninja]

It definitely is pretty cool that Meta Knight was used. I like his moves, too. =D

EDIT: Unmistakable proof that Ridley's too big to be in Brawl!

http://img512.images...e=ridleypq3.png

[I'm Always BROKE]

Okay, so today we have the Pokémon Trainer's special moves. Squirtle and Ivysaur's look great, but Charizard... having ROCK SMASH? Couldn't they really think of a better move?

[Golden Legacy]

^ Yeah, I was disappointed about Rock Smash. However, keep in mind that each Pokemon has three special moves, and Sakurai only showed us two out of the three for each - meaning that each Pokemon still has another special move that wasn't shown. Personally, I hope Charizard's Up + B ends up being Seismic Toss.

EDIT: rofl, gsninja.

[gsninja]

Charizard definitely could have had something a bit better than Rock Smash, maybe something like Wing Attack or Air Slash. Still, Rock Smash looks fun. =D

[My Best Wishes]

Gliding, yea. Look's like I need a secondary character with wings, unless being physic helps Ness fly.

[Caael]

gsninja, on Aug 28 2007, 06:07 PM, said:

It definitely is pretty cool that Meta Knight was used. I like his moves, too. =D

EDIT: Unmistakable proof that Ridley's too big to be in Brawl!

http://img512.images...e=ridleypq3.png

Unmistakable proof that Bowser's too big to be in Brawl!
http://www.bowsershrine.com/Images/Info/Screens/bowsersunshine.jpg

You just cant use that arguement. It doesnt work.


Besides, this update is just perfect for Ridley. Can you think of somebody more perfect than Ridley for this?

[Nosferatu]

...Tails? (And no, I didn't just go look through my games...)
Ridley does go good with that update. And besides, new attacks were added to his roster in MP3.

And yes Caael, that means you were right about

Spoiler

fighting Ridley a second time and him being Omega Ridley.

Edit: Super Mario Sunshine ftw by the way.

[Folcon]

Gliding cool. It can add a whole new level of stratagy to combat when playing as those characters. Even better, great recovery. Just like Kirby.

[Golden Legacy]

... Hmm. Let's see... Tuesday had an update about Special Moves, and the next day we received an update about the Pokemon Trainer's moves.

So today, we received on update about gliding... to set up for tomorrow...

(anyone see where I'm going with this? *hint hint Caael* :rolleyes:)

[Folcon]

Watch tomorrow's update be some useless item. Or another assist trophy. Or maybe, what one of the poke's in the poke ball item is. Personaly, I think its time for a new stage.

[Nosferatu]

Maybe he'll show us how he designed how the word "Brawl" should look!

[Golden Legacy]

I get it, set yourself up for low expectations, so that you can be pleasantly surprised when tomorrow's update turns out to be "DEH UBER AWES0ME!!!!11oneone".

*optimistic*

[Nosferatu]

I actually wasn't kidding.

But that's a good thought too, GL.

[Split Infinity]

I'm starting to warm to the idea of a Pokemon Trainer, now that it's starting to sink in that you don't actually play as him.

[Ironsight]

If i ever got this game, id probobly play as him, or Samus (or Ridley if he is gonna be included).

[Nosferatu]

Escout was right. End of story. Set up...and no goal.

[Toasty]

The wario ware stage looks pretty cool. I'm curious as to what all of the changes in the stage will be. This is getting closer to what I want to see in a stage. It's layout isn't like all the rest. Sure, it's basic design has four platforms, but they're off to the side, and as the stage changes, differen't platforms appear, or even go away.

[TheEnglishman]

I like the idea. I think it's a bit of a change from the normal stage.

[Golden Legacy]

This idea for a stage is absolutely amazing! Good job Sakurai.

I'm personally curious about what the "rewards" will be if you complete a mini-game, and what happens if you fail... maybe if you lose, you get damage accumulated (i.e. +40%), making it easier for the other players to knock you around... Hmm.

Even so, seriously innovative idea.


EDIT: New poll for this week.

[Caael]

Lolz @ Making other players fail the mini games.

[Nosferatu]

Somebody asked me about online the other week, so here's where I read it:

Quote

Question: Will Super Smash Bros. Brawl be online?

All reports indicate that yes, it will. Brawl has been planned from the beginning to be a flagship title for Nintendo's free Wi-Fi Connection service, and though the feature hasn't yet been 100% confirmed, you can rest soundly in the knowledge that it's an almost surefire guarantee.

[Split Infinity]

Online matches pose an interesting problem: will characters and stages be playable against even if they have not been unlocked?

I assume the characters would simply be removed from all players' rosters.

[My Best Wishes]

Nosferatu, on Sep 1 2007, 12:54 PM, said:

Somebody asked me about online the other week, so here's where I read it:

It had better be. Really, think how much better mainly-multiplayer games would sell if they were online, not having to rely on a person to play with, I'd love it and I'm sure others would as well.

Spam King, on Sep 1 2007, 06:10 PM, said:

Online matches pose an interesting problem: will characters and stages be playable against even if they have not been unlocked?

I assume the characters would simply be removed from all players' rosters.

In Mario Strikers Charged Football playing online you can use any character and any stage, no matter what point you are up to in the game.

[Toasty]

Yeah, but this is SSB. Not all players are available from the beginning.

I'd suggest that you're able to use any character you've unlocked. Personally, I'm not willing to not use the sole character I'll end up using just so it won't spoil it for someone else. Heck, I'd rather it be that way so I'd be able to see what other characters are out there before I even unlock them.

Basically, you should be able to use any character available to you, but you should only be able to use the stages that are available to all the players.

This way, there'd be a possibility for future updates (like new maps or characeters) without interfereing with game compatibility between two people.

[My Best Wishes]

I found this to be assuring.
http://au.wii.ign.co.../809868p20.html
I'm talking about the Wi-Fi part.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Sep 1 2007, 07:17 AM, said:

I found this to be assuring.
http://au.wii.ign.co.../809868p20.html
I'm talking about the Wi-Fi part.

That's where I copied and pasted the thing from my last post from.

[My Best Wishes]

Now i feel pretty stupid.

[gsninja]

Meh, the Warioware stage looks alright. My favorite update this past week has to be the Pokemon Trainer's Pokemons' Special moves. They look cool. =D

[I'm Always BROKE]

Except for Rock Smash...

...

I want K.Rool playable.

[Toasty]

Yeah, that was pretty ghey. I would've rather had that be Fire Blast. Blast Burn would be his FS. Maybe solar beam for Ivysor and hydro pump for squirtle?

[gsninja]

Mr.T, on Sep 2 2007, 04:09 AM, said:

Yeah, that was pretty ghey. I would've rather had that be Fire Blast. Blast Burn would be his FS. Maybe solar beam for Ivysaur and hydro pump for squirtle?

Spell Ivysaur right. =P

How awesome would it be if Rayquaza was a Pokeball release? He could use something like Outrage or Dragon Claw as his move.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Mr.T, on Sep 2 2007, 01:09 PM, said:

Yeah, that was pretty ghey. I would've rather had that be Fire Blast. Blast Burn would be his FS. Maybe solar beam for Ivysor and hydro pump for squirtle?

I think Dragon Claw or Wing Attack or something would be a lot better for his Forward B. But nooooo... They'd have to go with... Rock Smash. >_>;

[Caael]

Charizard for Ridley clone.

[I'm Always BROKE]

No wai! Ridley will be the Charizard clone. =P Now I'm not all that skeptical about Rock Smash anymore, I'd LOVE to see Ridley imitading that! XD

Nah kidding there, the 2 are similair, but I think Ridley will have way more tail based moves than Charizard and not breathe flames but rather spew fire balls.

[Caael]

I was joking.

Ridley is too unique to have a clone. Who else has a tail stomp?

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Sep 2 2007, 02:51 PM, said:

I was joking.

Ridley is too unique to have a clone. Who else has a tail stomp?

And I don't think Charizard can fire bombs out of his tail.

Or smack your face with the back of his hand.

[Toasty]

I'm almost certain we'll see Rayquaza and Kyogre as pokeballs. Probably even some of the DP Ledgendaries. I'd bet rayquaza would use extreme speed and fly around a part of the stage really fast, and whoever was hit would take damage and fly off in some direction.

But I really hope that Brawl ends up using the Havok physics engine. It'll make the interactions between characters and objects more....realistic. Like you won't have one character's foot going all the way through another's stomach. Or one box falling through another and just pushing it aside. Boxes will land on top of eachother and stack, or fall off an edge if less than half of it's base is on the ground. That'd be pretty cool.

[My Best Wishes]

Go Pit. The guy seriously looks good. I might have to reconsider Ness as my character.
Those visuals looks great.

[Toasty]

DEWD. Those visuals are awesome.

All the 360 and PS3 fanboys can argue all they want about the Wii having poor graphics, but if it can render visuals as stunning as those in MP:3 and SSBB, who cares if it isn't high def? You don't need high definition to have awesome visuals. And really, I can live without HD. I have a 1080p capable TV, and though I'd love to put it to good use, I've been able to live with standard def movies and visuals for quite some time. And I'll continue to. But I can't wait to play SSBB on widescreen. :D

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Sep 3 2007, 06:30 AM, said:

And I don't think Charizard can fire bombs out of his tail.

Or smack your face with the back of his hand.

That's meta Ridley, and neither is he ***/woman.

Ridley is too cool for you.


The opening videos open up loads of possibilities. I posted an idea for Ridley and Samus' opening video:

'Samus is walking through the Tallon overworld, scanning the area, and then Ridley jumps down onto her. Battle commences, Samus runs around him, while he's pelting her with fireballs. She charges a missile, for which he realises, and flies up into the air. Samus fires, and Ridley dodges, and lunges for her with his claws. Suddenly, something in Samus' helmet beeps, and she runs for her ship. Ridley doesn't know whats going on, so he trudges after her.

What the beeping was, was a new mission for her, on Earth where a big explosion had caused part of the earth to disintergrate away. She took off straight away, Ridley following her, in his custom ship built for him.'


Dude.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Sep 3 2007, 04:15 AM, said:

That's meta Ridley, and neither is he ***/woman.

Meh. It's all the same dead corpse to me. And I said the second one because of a really annoying attack from MP3.

That new Pit video looks pretty cool. Pit looks to be a good character.

[I'm Always BROKE]

So did Mewtwo and Bowser remember? You can't judge characters on trailers andscreenshots, but atleast I agree that Pit's a very cool character atleast. I won't use him though, cause so far he's the most hyped of all characters and will be used... A LOT! I have my Diddy, so I will use him. :o

[gsninja]

I'll be so depressed without Sheik. ;_; I need Sheik, since she's the character I use most, and my best. Still, I'm gonna use Ike, as I've decided to make him another one of my main characters. =D

[Caael]

I'm gonna main Simon Belmont if he's in, or w/e Castlevania rep they might put in.

[Golden Legacy]

Mr.T, on Sep 3 2007, 04:42 AM, said:

DEWD. Those visuals are awesome.

All the 360 and PS3 fanboys can argue all they want about the Wii having poor graphics, but if it can render visuals as stunning as those in MP:3 and SSBB, who cares if it isn't high def? You don't need high definition to have awesome visuals. And really, I can live without HD. I have a 1080p capable TV, and though I'd love to put it to good use, I've been able to live with standard def movies and visuals for quite some time. And I'll continue to. But I can't wait to play SSBB on widescreen. :o

Dude, this is CG - admittedly good CG, but you can't use that to say the Wii can pour out graphics on par with PS3/360.

Though Brawl, Galaxy, and Corruption are definitely raising the standards for the Wii.

[Nosferatu]

gsninja, on Sep 3 2007, 11:40 AM, said:

I'll be so depressed without Sheik. ;_; I need Sheik, since she's the character I use most, and my best. Still, I'm gonna use Ike, as I've decided to make him another one of my main characters. =D

Hey GSN, Shiek was confirmed in an interview. Gannondorf also.

[Caael]

Except Shiek isnt in. You've been ready phoney interviews. All Zelda rep in Brawl is TP. Shiek isn't TP. She's not in.

[I'm Always BROKE]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/diddykong/diddykong_070904c-l.jpg
<3

[gsninja]

I want to try out Diddy's Peanut Pop Gun. It was great in DK64, and it's probably just as cool now. ^.^

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Sep 4 2007, 01:49 AM, said:

Except Shiek isnt in. You've been ready phoney interviews. All Zelda rep in Brawl is TP. Shiek isn't TP. She's not in.

Then tell us, please, what's Zelda's Down B?

[Caael]

Tell us, please, do you really think New Zelda would turn into a like 10 year old shiek? I bet it's something based on light arrows

[I'm Always BROKE]

Let's HOPE so. I don't want Sheik to return. >_>

[gsninja]

DiddyKong, on Sep 4 2007, 03:01 PM, said:

Let's HOPE so. I don't want Sheik to return. >_>

...I don't like you anymore. ;_;

I almost expected Diddy's special moves to be on those exact buttons (B = Peanut Popgun, Up + B = Rocketbarrel Boost). Then again, what else would you expect from Diddy?

[Toasty]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 3 2007, 02:44 PM, said:

Dude, this is CG - admittedly good CG, but you can't use that to say the Wii can pour out graphics on par with PS3/360.

Though Brawl, Galaxy, and Corruption are definitely raising the standards for the Wii.

Well what I meant, was that you don't have to have an overpowered machine to get good graphics.

But, even then, take a look at Snake. He's a human, and he looks pretty realistic to me. On par with some 360 games I'd say. Or even diddy's fur. IMO, his fur doesn't look fake.

[Nosferatu]

Mr.T, on Sep 4 2007, 08:05 PM, said:

Well what I meant, was that you don't have to have an overpowered machine to get good graphics.

But, even then, take a look at Snake. He's a human, and he looks pretty realistic to me. On par with some 360 games I'd say. Or even diddy's fur. IMO, his fur doesn't look fake.

It's only the fan boys of the PS3 (a dieing breed) and the 360 saying these things. They can't accept that their console might be rivaled. They just hate Brawl cause it looks good, which doesn't even make sense.

But it's all fair game in Console War II.

[Caael]

To kill of PS3 fanboys, just put Sora in Brawl. They'll all buy a Wii, just to see their precious sora in Brawl, and get absorbed into all the games and forget about PS3. Flawless plan.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Sep 4 2007, 11:58 PM, said:

To kill of PS3 fanboys, just put Sora in Brawl. They'll all buy a Wii, just to see their precious sora in Brawl, and get absorbed into all the games and forget about PS3. Flawless plan.

Eh.

Meta-Knight's confirmation (FINALLY). Now that was fairly worth staying up to wait for.

[My Best Wishes]

Maybe so but he barely said anything about him. He's been in screens since the start of development so he's been a given.

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Sep 5 2007, 08:06 AM, said:

Eh.

Meta-Knight's confirmation (FINALLY). Now that was fairly worth staying up to wait for.

You do realise I was joking, right?


Now SB ca stop their beeyatching

[Golden Legacy]

Still upset that Ridley hasn't been confirmed yet? :o

[Someone Else]

He's tooo beeeeeeg to be in SSBB. D:

*makes a spoiler so he doesn't upset Aqua*

Spoiler

I heard a rumor that Cel-shaded Link will replace Young Link. Any confirmation?

[gsninja]

I can't say whether I'm excited or not about the Meta Knight update. I mean...it was pretty much to be expected, so it wasn't surprising at all. =|

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Sep 5 2007, 02:05 PM, said:

He's tooo beeeeeeg to be in SSBB. D:

...You and Caael had this arguement. Get off it. How about Bowser in Super Mario Sunshine?

You lost. Christ.

[Someone Else]

That wasn't me arguing before. That was my opinion. Christ.

[Folcon]

I eagerly await Snake's move set. The box just has to be in it. Or maybe it will be an item.

[Toasty]

Nonononono. The box is his shield. As it wears out, it gets cheese and urine stains. Once it's entirely covered with stains it crumbles, leaving a very dizzy snake to try and catch his breath after inhaling urine and cheese for like, 3 or 4 seconds.

His FS will rain mines down from the sky, and then after they land, they explode. For some reason, this makes him really old, turning him into the Solid Snake you saw in MG4.

[Folcon]

We will see. Hopefully Snake will be showing up soon. And we need more assist trophies and pokes.

[Nosferatu]

FLUDD eh? Now that's a great update. Pokemon Stadium 2 looks good too.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I don't like that FLUDD now takes up a move for Mario... Sure, it adds some difference in there, another water user besides Squirtle but I still don't like it. Luckly the Mario Tornado is still there, hopefully it'll get boosted in power a bit.

[My Best Wishes]

Maybe Luigi will have his Vacum and be less of a clone now.
Like the new stage, but still wanting another Hyrule Castle in the orginal SSB.

[Golden Legacy]

Great double update today. The flying stage for Pokemon Stadium looks fun, wonder how the electric stage will be?

Also, glad for the slight change in Mario's special moveset - F.L.U.D.D. (God that's annoying to type) is really unique (though no damage?) - nice that the Mario tornado was made a normal move.

[Echo_djinn]

Oh no, what will Peach do when Mario gets her all wet? :o

Mario's new move will add some nice stategic play when using him. If he keeps his cape I'll be satisfied.

[Caael]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 5 2007, 09:18 PM, said:

Still upset that Ridley hasn't been confirmed yet? :o

It's because he's going to be a hidden character. Brawl hits US shelves December 3rd and might come out in Japan before that. There's got to be at least a couple weeks (maybe more like a couple months) for manufacturing and printing discs, which means the game has to be totally done by then. And before that, the game has to finish undergoing localization, which is going to come after all the tweaking and balancing and bugtesting that would inevitably accompany adding a character or whatever. If you think they're still making character roster changes at this late in the game you're out of your mind.


On another note, I made this:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9835/ridleydojo1copyrp6.png

Obviously not finished, but i'm getting there.