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#2801   Laharl 

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    Posted 30 January 2008 - 06:41 PM

    somebody needs to go pro :b

    lol at isaac milk carton

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      Posted 30 January 2008 - 06:43 PM

      The roster is a bit dissapointing to me also ;_;
      I honestly can't believe they chose Marth rather than Roy ^_^

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        Posted 30 January 2008 - 07:02 PM

        Roy was slow, and wasn't that much more powerfull than Marth. Ike looks like he will be like Roy, but better.

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          Posted 30 January 2008 - 08:55 PM

          I've thought about it, and I like the roster. Sure, it could have been better, I agree 100%. I am disappointed by the fact of no Isaac/K.Rool/Krystal. The only problems I have is with all the StarFox reps having the same FS, and WW Link not having his own moveset using weapons from WW. But other then the Starfox reps FS, the clones aren't as bad as in Melee, Ganondorf and Luigi are both altered, Fox/Falco/Wolf seem to have similar moves, but with different animations, which I'm ok with. Lucario isn't a clone of Mewtwo, as Mewtwo is not in the game, so whatever. As for the hated ROB, he has his own moves and I don't see why people hate him. Probably because he wasn't Geno or Ridley =\

          As for the people who wanted character that had a chance, like Isaac/K.Rool/Krystal, for some reason I still have faith that Nintendo will provide downloadable content in the future.

          Yes, I am a Nintendo fanboy, and I can;t help it so leave me alone =\

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            Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:07 PM

            It's good that someone is keeping perspective. Again, if we look at it differently, we really have an amazing roster if you imagine that all the newcomers were unveiled yesterday. Who would've imagine Pikmin/Olimar coming to life as Sakurai managed, or that we'd get a Pokemon Trainer? And Sonic, Snake, Wario, Pit, Metaknight, etc.

            The roster definitely had potential to do more, and in that sense it disappoints. There's no doubt. But considering everything else this game has to offer (I swear I'd buy it just for the beautifully orchestrated music tracks alone), it's certainly not going to destroy how fun this game will be.

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              Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:22 PM

              Yeah, the music is great, and alot of the stages look interesting. People don't like the final roster now because the Dojo spoiled them, if we were right now finding out about everyone people would be LOVING Sonic/Snake and everybody else...=\

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                Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:35 PM

                That's true ^^. I guess the Dojo's intention was the create even more hype for Brawl before it was released.

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                  Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:37 PM

                  And unfortunately detracting from it. We've been spoiled, no other way to put it. Luckily, I'd say the majority of the gaming population don't frequent the site, and I'm absolutely certain the roster will be more than satisfying to that majority. It's only us that have been clinging to every revelation, big and small, from the Dojo that has caused the hype to dilute it.

                  But there's no denying that Brawl will be amazing. We'll finally get to play the efforts of easily the largest game development team ever.

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                    Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:40 PM

                    GL, you type way too fast x3. I was editing my post lol.

                    And yeah, I admit in the end it reduced the expectations for people who weren't pleased with what was offered.

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                      Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:45 PM

                      Heh.

                      And hopefully, if this ends up true, it'll definitely help (scroll down to post 305).

                      EDIT: Ignore that one, try this better link.
                      http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...p;postcount=338

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                        Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:13 AM

                        View PostGolden Legacy, on Jan 30 2008, 07:45 PM, said:

                        Heh.

                        And hopefully, if this ends up true, it'll definitely help (scroll down to post 305).

                        EDIT: Ignore that one, try this better link.
                        http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...p;postcount=338

                        That is ****ing awesome.

                        And I thought I'd just post something from tonight's update before I head off. (Exam tomorrow morning.)

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                        January 31st, 2008. Super Smash Bros. Brawl has officially gone on sale in Japan. Is everybody having fun with it?

                        However, Smash won’t come out in North America for a bit and sadly, Europe has an even longer wait until the game releases.

                        For the past eight months or so, Smash Dojo has served as a source of basic information for the game, but with the release of Brawl, the Dojo will take on a new role.

                        From here on out, the Dojo will begin to introduce the hidden characters, hidden stages, and additional features in Brawl that have gone unmentioned until now. I’d like to continue to add on to the Dojo so that players of Brawl can come back to this website following it’s completion and view Smash Dojo as a sort of guide for the game.

                        I plan on continuing updates for another two months, so please continue to enjoy the site.

                        Just remember, I’ll be posting information on hidden characters and other in-game secrets, so you should take caution when viewing the site if you want to save those surprises for later.


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                          Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:42 AM

                          Yay, ZS at the match start!

                          And i'm surprised he's still updating, probably a compromise for the roster ^_^

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                            Posted 31 January 2008 - 04:25 AM

                            i'm thinking ZSS will be like Zelda/Shiek is melee, as in you could press something as you select Zelda to start the match as Shiek

                            he's probably contiuing the updates to try and win some favour back :/

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                              Posted 31 January 2008 - 09:12 AM

                              How can he gain any favor by showing the characters? We already know them all.

                              It's a shame that it's like a repeat of Melee's roster... It just asks for more. It just feels incomplete, and I really don't think that Sakurai got all of it done that he wanted too. ^_^

                              BTW, I'm pretty sure that it has been confirmed that if you hold R or something ZSS will be playable from the start of the match.

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                                Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:33 PM

                                Spoiler


                                Fix'd

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                                  Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:12 PM

                                  So the FAQs are already coming, eh? Dear God, why is this game two months away (four for me, until I finish first year of college).

                                  Oh, and please remember to spoiler tag stuff like this.

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                                    Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:15 PM

                                    Oh the nerds have to get this stuff out. Still it's impressive that they need less than 24 hours.

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                                      Posted 31 January 2008 - 06:51 PM

                                      Apparently Isaac's an AT.

                                      http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/BassoonForLife/up254372.jpg

                                      This translated apparently confirms that, and he's also an unlockable AT. That's very weird.

                                      Anyways... I want to see PICTURES! I want to know what Isaac looks like in full 3D. Hopefully Sakurai put a lot of work into his model, because he knows he was requested.

                                      There's also another rumor which I don't if it's true... but I'll post the link to it anyways.

                                      About Geno...

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                                        Posted 31 January 2008 - 07:11 PM

                                        He's an AT? What do you think his power will be? Ragnarok?

                                        What's that thing about Geno?

                                        And what is the first thing everybody is going to do when they get the game?

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                                          Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:00 PM

                                          Interesting find there, Envy, both about Isaac being an AT and the Geno rumor.

                                          Skidz, first thing I'm doing when I get Brawl is play a 1 on 1 duel with my younger brother, he with Metaknight and myself with Pit.

                                          Oh, and just for kicks:

                                          http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2537/denialdu7.jpg

                                          lol.

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                                            Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:11 PM

                                            Lol. XD

                                            View PostEnvy, on Jan 31 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

                                            Apparently Isaac's an AT.

                                            http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/BassoonForLife/up254372.jpg

                                            This translated apparently confirms that, and he's also an unlockable AT. That's very weird.

                                            Anyways... I want to see PICTURES! I want to know what Isaac looks like in full 3D. Hopefully Sakurai put a lot of work into his model, because he knows he was requested.

                                            There's also another rumor which I don't if it's true... but I'll post the link to it anyways.

                                            About Geno...

                                            This isn't a dream, right? There's GS representation in Brawl? =D

                                            Now I can partially forgive the fact that Lucario replaced Mewtwo.

                                            Anyways, that's a really interesting piece on Geno.

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                                              Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:34 PM

                                              View Postgsninja, on Jan 31 2008, 08:11 PM, said:

                                              Now I can partially forgive the fact that Lucario replaced Mewtwo.

                                              He's on acceptance, GL.

                                              Yeah, I was wondering about that random box. They just had two empty spots as "random" boxes in Melee.

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                                                Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:37 PM

                                                Meh, sucks that Isaac's only an AT, but at least there's some GS rep in there. Also, since he's in as an AT, there'll probably be other trophies relating to GS.

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                                                  Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:18 PM

                                                  First thing i plan to do is start the SSE and start unlocking characters as soon as possable. Then I'll start maining the one's i like and take on all challengers.

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                                                    Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:42 PM

                                                    I'm stating out by having a FFA with my bros.

                                                    I will be using Diddy first.

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                                                      Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:29 AM

                                                      Here's hoping we get some new (competent) members because of Issac's AT.

                                                      I'm trying to choose between Samus, Meta-Knight and Lucario as my main. It'll probably depend on how the latter two play.

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                                                        Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:39 AM

                                                        Awesome, now on the dojo it's telling you how to unlock hidden characters. Plus Ness was reavealed.

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                                                          Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:03 AM

                                                          The banner's pretty fancy too.

                                                          It looks as though Ness is to Lucas as Roy is to Marth. Ness's moves (according to the Dojo)0 are a bit slower, but are more powerful. However, Ness has PK Flash (I'm guessing this is the same as PK Pulse from SSBM, but I don't know), while Lucas has PK Freeze instead. Also, Ness has a yoyo and Lucas doesn't. Lucas has a snake thingy that can grab ledges and Ness doesn't. Also, I don't know about Ness, but Lucas's back arial is supposed to me a meteor smash. But even their PK Fire's are different. Lucas's PK Fire travels in a straight line and explodes, while Ness's doesn't fo straight (I think) and scores multiple hits instead of explodeing.

                                                          So it looks as if Lucas is a Luigified version of Ness.

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                                                            Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:30 AM

                                                            *to the tune of under the sea outro*

                                                            Ess ess bee bee!
                                                            Ess ess bee bee!
                                                            When all the far cry
                                                            Wish sakurai'd die
                                                            It makes me hehe!
                                                            What do they got? A lot of tears
                                                            Even though it's nearly here after two years!
                                                            There's a few clones
                                                            but the roster is own,
                                                            ESS ESS BEE BEE!
                                                            All the bishes
                                                            Waiting for shipments
                                                            Ess ess bee bee!
                                                            They won't admit it
                                                            But they P/O'd it
                                                            Ess ess bee bee!
                                                            Visit the dojo
                                                            hoping for geno
                                                            ESS!
                                                            ESS!
                                                            BEE!
                                                            BEEEEEE!

                                                            That sucked.

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                                                              Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:58 AM

                                                              ice sogn there. You should try to make soem mnoey off it.

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                                                                Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:42 PM

                                                                I hadn't heard about the Issac AT. At least there's some GS in there.

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                                                                  Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:23 PM

                                                                  http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_Q1kKJO_vto

                                                                  WW Link's FS, which is exactly like Link's.


                                                                  Also, Nos, I pretty much accepted the roster once it was revealed, just not...Lucario. >.>;;

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                                                                    Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:27 PM

                                                                    I'm actually not going to buy this game because i'm so dissapointed with it.

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                                                                      Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:34 PM

                                                                      http://youtube.com/watch?v=FeeIYr5wW78

                                                                      That shows that Toon Link has the EXACT same moveset as Link, except the bomerang is different.

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                                                                        Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:07 PM

                                                                        To be honest, clones don't bother me. They didn't in Melee and they don't now. I just wouldn't use the characters.
                                                                        Just out of interest, am I the only one who looks encouraged by what I've seen? I know I'm not exactly an expert Smash Bros player and can't pick out the apparent problems that all you guys see, but it looks pretty and I'm happy with that.

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                                                                          Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:17 PM

                                                                          View PostCaael, on Feb 1 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

                                                                          I'm actually not going to buy this game because i'm so dissapointed with it.

                                                                          *sigh* I seriously don't know what's up with your gaming taste. Yes, the roster is not perfect, but guess what? Melee's was absolutely horrible if you think about it. It's not going to stop Brawl from being one of the best games of this generation, it already has the highest production values possible for a Nintendo (or any other) title.

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                                                                            Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:28 PM

                                                                            Well it's not that it's bad, theres just games higher on my list. Seriously, about 20 games that come before Brawl.

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                                                                              Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:48 PM

                                                                              I can name MAYBE 5 games I'd rather buy at the moment before Brawl, but 20. That says bad game to me.

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                                                                                Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:53 PM

                                                                                Yeah, I've seriously given up on wondering where that logic is coming from. First it was Super Mario Galaxy, game of the year nominee/candidate that's been universally praised as one of the most innovative designs in decades, and now Brawl, a game brimming with content and refinement the likes of which aren't see in 99% of other games?

                                                                                But this isn't the topic to debate it. Say what you will, any of you, but if you own a Wii and happen to not get Brawl, then you're missing out. Easy as that.

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                                                                                  Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:55 PM

                                                                                  I know numerous people who hate the SSB series btw ^^. Smash is universally loved, but there are people who dislike it.

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                                                                                    Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:59 PM

                                                                                    View Post.eugine, on Feb 1 2008, 06:55 PM, said:

                                                                                    I know numerous people who hate the SSB series btw ^^. Smash is universally loved, but there are people who dislike it.

                                                                                    Well, of course they are. These are people who've presumably tried playing it and just don't like it. I get annoyed at people, however, who make judgments about it before they've even played the game.

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                                                                                      View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 1 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

                                                                                      *sigh* I seriously don't know what's up with your gaming taste. Yes, the roster is not perfect, but guess what? Melee's was absolutely horrible if you think about it. It's not going to stop Brawl from being one of the best games of this generation, it already has the highest production values possible for a Nintendo (or any other) title.


                                                                                      Now if there will only be enough Wiis to go around. Or something along those lines as a comment about how Nintendo can't make enough Wiis to meet the demand.

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                                                                                        Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

                                                                                        I got my Wii, so I'm not complaining.

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                                                                                          View PostCaael, on Feb 1 2008, 09:27 PM, said:

                                                                                          I'm actually not going to buy this game because i'm so dissapointed with it.


                                                                                          dude, you're a step away from the DMC4 boycotters



                                                                                          twould seem the Wii shortage is not limited to the PAL regions.......

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                                                                                            Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:05 PM

                                                                                            Why are some people boycotting DMC4?

                                                                                            Ya, this game is in NO way a dissapoinment, we've jsut been spoiled. If they gave us NOTHING, and jsut a week ago gave us EVERYTHNIG, we would be flipping out.

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                                                                                              Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:06 PM

                                                                                              Nah I was just pissed off then because I had lost like 4 matches in a row. But really, I dont think it lived up to anybody's expectations. It's not a bad game, i'd still play it if I had it, but I do have games higher on my list like the Orange Box and Burnout Paradise.

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                                                                                                Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:08 PM

                                                                                                I guess even Nintendo were surprised the Wii sold well.
                                                                                                As for Brawl's disappointed fans, I guess it's from the website taking the spoils away. Without that, all the new features and characters are likely to have a bigger impact.

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                                                                                                  Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:08 PM

                                                                                                  You'd rather have BURNOUT!!! than SSBB?


                                                                                                  Wow.



                                                                                                  But ya, what's up with this whoel DMC4 thing?

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                                                                                                    Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:09 PM

                                                                                                    View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 1 2008, 07:04 PM, said:

                                                                                                    dude, you're a step away from the DMC4 boycotters
                                                                                                    twould seem the Wii shortage is not limited to the PAL regions.......

                                                                                                    Why is DMC4 being boycotted?

                                                                                                    View PostSkidzorz, on Feb 1 2008, 07:05 PM, said:

                                                                                                    Ya, this game is in NO way a dissapoinment, we've jsut been spoiled. If they gave us NOTHING, and jsut a week ago gave us EVERYTHNIG, we would be flipping out.

                                                                                                    Indeed. or not even that - if just Sonic alone had been revealed last week, the hype for Brawl would be insurmountable.

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                                                                                                    Nah I was just pissed off then because I had lost like 4 matches in a row. But really, I dont think it lived up to anybody's expectations. It's not a bad game, i'd still play it if I had it, but I do have games higher on my list like the Orange Box and Burnout Paradise.

                                                                                                    Wha- dude, you realize that you haven't played it yet?

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                                                                                                      View PostSkidzorz, on Feb 1 2008, 11:08 PM, said:

                                                                                                      You'd rather have BURNOUT!!! than SSBB?

                                                                                                      Hey Burnout looks good. Nice and shiny.
                                                                                                      I'd probably want Brawl more, but that comes from a lack of interest in the racing genre.

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                                                                                                        View PostSkidzorz, on Feb 1 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

                                                                                                        Why are some people boycotting DMC4?


                                                                                                        because DMC 4 is being released on PS3 and 360, some of the hardcore sony freaks are boycotting DMC 4 in protest. the logic for this cannot be comprehended. retards

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                                                                                                          Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:12 PM

                                                                                                          All things considered, yes I am being a bit bias, but if Sakurai made false promises, you'd be annoyed too.

                                                                                                          @ Skidz: I enjoyed the burnout Paradise demo more than i've enjoyed any other racing game before. Seriously, it's basically free roaming a gargantuan city in a car doing what ever you want; race people online just by dropping into their city; look for secret areas. It has an incredible amount of depth for a car game.

                                                                                                          @ Laharl: Really? I thought it would be based off the demo, which wasn't too great. But i've never played a DMC so I have nothign to compare it with.

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                                                                                                            Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:13 PM

                                                                                                            @ Larhal-That is the stupidist thing I have ever heard of. Jesus, why does there have to be some weirdo's for EVERY game ever released.

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                                                                                                              Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:25 PM

                                                                                                              View PostCaael, on Feb 1 2008, 07:12 PM, said:

                                                                                                              All things considered, yes I am being a bit bias, but if Sakurai made false promises, you'd be annoyed too.

                                                                                                              Sakurai never "promised" anything. There's a popular rumor around that Sakurai promised that there would be no clones - this is confirmed false. There is no record of Sakurai ever saying that. He said something else (along the lines of that there would be fewer clones than Melee) but never outright that there wouldn't be any.

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                                                                                                                Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:25 PM

                                                                                                                Despite the fact that the roster didn't live up to a lot of people's expectations, everything else in the game will make up for it. Not only that, there's still Ike, Sonic, Snake, PT, and a bunch of other characters that will be fun. If you hate the roster now, you will more than likely not care about it much once the game comes out.

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                                                                                                                  Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                  I have sadi it once, and will say it again, I love what this game turned out to be. Sure, they could have included soem more thnigs, and left out others, btu all in all, I can see this game being in the top 10 best selling Wii games. Maybe even top 5.

                                                                                                                  I do, though, doubt it will stay in the top 10 best seeling every month for it's entire run like Melee did.

                                                                                                                  There was only FIVE monthes where it wasn't in the top 10 best seeling games for that month.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:48 PM

                                                                                                                    Wait, what? Young Link isn't cel-shaded? D:

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                                                                                                                      Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                      Check the video I psoted. I can't view it anymore because I'm back on my computer, but if he's not cell-shaded in the video, then he's not cell-shaded.

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                                                                                                                        Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:56 PM

                                                                                                                        Yeah, I was referring to your video. Limits in the graphic's engine I guess.

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                                                                                                                          Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:59 PM

                                                                                                                          View PostSkidzorz, on Feb 1 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

                                                                                                                          You'd rather have BURNOUT!!! than SSBB?


                                                                                                                          Burnout looks awesome. If I had a 360, it'd be right below Brawl and AW:DoR.



                                                                                                                          But honestly Caael, if you weren't looking at any of the updates, you'd be VERY pleased with Brawl. I'm actually dissapointed that I looked at the updates. Because of that, I think it's safe to say that Aqua will enjoy this game more than anyone else here. ^_^

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                                                                                                                            Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:40 PM

                                                                                                                            I've seen Lucario video footage on Youtube, and he is basically a Luigified version on Mewtwo, except even more different. He has a few same moves, but his B^ is definetly different. From what I saw, and my eyes might have been decieving, the B^ move sent him flying to the nearest opponent. He also seems alot faster, and less clunky. So all in all, Lucario>>>Mewtwo. Not in coolness, but his character in SSBB.

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                                                                                                                            View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 1 2008, 04:17 PM, said:

                                                                                                                            *sigh* I seriously don't know what's up with your gaming taste.

                                                                                                                            I kno Im new but this thought came into my head when I read this lol...

                                                                                                                            in soviet russia, caael forces his opinions on you!!

                                                                                                                            lol sry..

                                                                                                                            And on the topic of clone characters :: Why evan make them at all?? just to make the roster look bigger??? Why doesnt he make the different costumes into different characters to! Then it will look evan bigger!

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                                                                                                                              Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:36 AM

                                                                                                                              It's spelled even, not evan, and you only need one questionmark. ^_^ [/grammar nazi]

                                                                                                                              Because they're different characters, and a different moveset wouldn't fit well. Plus, people asked for more representation of some franchises, such as StarFox or Earthbound.

                                                                                                                              And not all characters that look like clones are true clones. It's not like Captain Falcon and Ganondorf from Melee who's only difference is their strength/speed. Lucas and Ness have quite a few differences.

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                                                                                                                                Posted 02 February 2008 - 01:22 AM

                                                                                                                                This is my bragging post as I am currently watching a live stream of Brawl from Japan.

                                                                                                                                Snake is fairly slow and doesn't jump very high. He needs to use the Up+B to get to higher places.

                                                                                                                                Edit: Some pictures from the stream coming.

                                                                                                                                Crazy Bowser Costume

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                                                                                                                                  Posted 02 February 2008 - 02:10 AM

                                                                                                                                  Would you care to show us where this live stream was found?

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                                                                                                                                    Posted 02 February 2008 - 02:18 AM

                                                                                                                                    Use this. It'll tell you how to set it up.
                                                                                                                                    http://smashboards.c...ad.php?t=139534
                                                                                                                                    (You don't have to watch in Winamp. I'm using WMP.)

                                                                                                                                    The two I'm watching are "せち営放送" and "Ricky ch".

                                                                                                                                    Since it IS being streamed from Japan, it will have some lag problems. Remember it IS the video, not your computer. If it dies, just reload it from Peercast.

                                                                                                                                    Edit: Ricky ch appears to have been ended.

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                                                                                                                                      Posted 02 February 2008 - 03:08 AM

                                                                                                                                      Alright, after watching ALOT of videos, Diddy and Wolf are my auto mains, and I will also play with Olimar/Sonic/PT alot, along with my mains from melee (Luigi/Ganondorf)

                                                                                                                                      Bah, I'm just one of those guys who tries to be good with everyone, I can't do it 35 times though, so I'm aiming for like 8. :D

                                                                                                                                      Also I saw someone say they have 20 games they would but before Brawl, eh?????

                                                                                                                                      I know this won't mean all that much, I have already put myself out there and admitted to be a diehard nintendo fanboy, but I can't believe there are 20 games you would get before Brawl ><

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                                                                                                                                        Posted 02 February 2008 - 03:17 AM

                                                                                                                                        Dude, I'm watching even #42. I honestly don't get it's theme, but it's you versus Snake, Mario, and Sonic. And Mario's giant.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT] DUDE! I found SSE footage!

                                                                                                                                        Basically, it's a giant map with some floating continents, and the map is covered in green flags. There's a round blackish purple orb in the background.

                                                                                                                                        Right now the guy is doing a level on normal with Ganondorf and Marth. It appears to be some sort of temple labrynth.

                                                                                                                                        http://localhost:7144/pls/8E7E57380AAE48B4....117.80.73:7144

                                                                                                                                        That's the live video stream

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 2] DANG. Rob's recovery is INSANE. He just used his FS!

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 3] Toon link has a dark costume. It's black skin with white hair and red eyes.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 4] Ice Climber's FS not only shoots an iceberg through the stage, but anyone who touches the stage or iceberg takes damage (except the ice climbers).

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 5] New match just started, Bowser, Peach, Olimar, Lucario.

                                                                                                                                        Holy crap, the gooey bomb is like, a nuke or something. XD Bowser got the FS ball, and then got K.O.'d

                                                                                                                                        The laser gun from SSBM is back, and it looks about the same.

                                                                                                                                        That one magnet crab thingy from Ruby/Saphire is in as a pokeball, he uses stomp or earthquake. I can't tell which.

                                                                                                                                        Olimar's FS is pretty good, but wow. The scenery on Final Destination is AMAZING.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 6] LUCARIO JUST GOT AN FS BALL! He flies a ways above the stage and uses hyperbeam, and it can be directed. It did 25% damage in a split second, but the guy using him could only land one hit on olimar.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 7] DANG. Dedede is a tank! He K.O.'d Ike at 60% with a tackle. DEDEDE GOT AN FS BALL......wow. that was ghey. He just kinda sings and dances in one spot, and somehow people go flying off the stage....Ike's FS was epic though.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 8] He's just in his friends list atm. I jotted down his Wii Code. XD

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 9] New match, Kirby vs. Pikachu. Pikachu has a new move (throws the enemy onto his back and shocks him repeatedly), but it looks like Kirbay's moves are all still the same.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 10] I switched feeds. This guy just started a multiman brawl and got KO'd the second the match started. XD He was using Jiggly.

                                                                                                                                        D: Now he's just looking at his messages on his Wii....

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 11] Diddy vs. Lucairo is on antoher feed. Diddy's recover is pretty good, but Rob's still beats it. OMFG. Lucario has the freaking shadow ball as a move. D: It's different this time thoguh, it goes straight instead of jumping around, and it's blue.

                                                                                                                                        And as someone somewhere once said, Diddy can really put the hurt on you. XD He'll probably end up in the High Tier or better on Smashboards or something, but I could care less. He's awesome.

                                                                                                                                        Lucario's really good as well. He's got some hard hitting moves. The shadow ball is one of them.

                                                                                                                                        Diddy's peanut gun isn't very powerful. I'm not sure if it has rapid fire though, but I'd guess that it does.

                                                                                                                                        Oooo...Lucario won with two lives left. But the batle was pretty epic.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 12] I got some more Brawl codes. 3 complete ones so far. New match is starting too. He's using G&W. It's G&W vs. Luigi in a mario outfit. Hmm....I wasn't paying close attentiion, but I think Ganondorf just joined mid-match.

                                                                                                                                        G&W Got a FS ball. His squid form lasts for a good while, but the attacks are weak. You can jump, but his tentacles move by themselves doing only about 10% or 15% per hit. Luigi has the same moves, and he also won the match.

                                                                                                                                        However, I misstated something earlier. The gooey bomb has a fairly small explosion, I'm not sure what item causes the big one.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 13] New match, Falcon, Ice Climbers, Falco, Dedede. Dedede got the golden hammer! It moves a LOT faster than the regular hammer, but I don't know how strong it is since he got K.O.'d

                                                                                                                                        OMG! The landmaster tank owns!! If someone jumps on top of it, you can jump and it will push them so far up, that they get star K.O.'d. The landmaster shoots large "energy missles" that are actually fairly easy to dodge. But the jumping thing is....wow. All you have to do is push everyone off to one side of the stage and jump when they try to jump over you. It'll K.O. 'em.

                                                                                                                                        Dedede's FS is alright I guess. He summoons a bunch of Waddle Dee's that run around really fast knock people back whom they run into. K.O.'s people pretty easy actually.

                                                                                                                                        XD Falco got a squeaky golden hammer.

                                                                                                                                        New item: Metal crates can be thrown like the head of a broken hamer can be in Melee. They do a lot of damage.

                                                                                                                                        [EDIT 14] Just got two more Brawl Codes. That's 5 so far.

                                                                                                                                        Lucario has a black and white costume. The white replaces the blue, and the black stays the same.

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                                                                                                                                          Posted 02 February 2008 - 04:05 AM

                                                                                                                                          Well, T is happy I posted that info.

                                                                                                                                          Snake looks pretty deadly if you can master him, and R.O.B.'s Up+B IS insane. I've seen all the FSes, and Ganon's is wayover powered. R.O.B's, you can just sit on the edge and until the FS stops, they ain't coming back up.

                                                                                                                                          EDIT: OH YES! SHADOW IS AN AT!
                                                                                                                                          He uses Chaos Control to slow down everyone but the user.

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 02 February 2008 - 04:32 AM

                                                                                                                                            So THAT'S what that was. I didn't notice someone used an AT, just that time slowed down. I haven't gotten to see Ganondorf's FS, bt I caught the tail end of Captain Falcon's.

                                                                                                                                            And Diddy's Up+B is just as good as ROB's when fully charged. Also, Dedede's rocket hammer is POWERFUL.

                                                                                                                                            [EDIT] OHMIGOSH IT'S PIT!

                                                                                                                                            Pit appears to be really good for coin battles. He's got a move that hit's many multiple times in a row, and it sends craploads of coins flying. Also, pits black costume is awesome.

                                                                                                                                            [EDIT 2] Man, I'm tired. I can barely keep my eyes open....See you all later I guess.

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                                                                                                                                              Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:03 AM

                                                                                                                                              View PostNosferatu, on Feb 2 2008, 10:05 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                              EDIT: OH YES! SHADOW IS AN AT!
                                                                                                                                              He uses Chaos Control to slow down everyone but the user.

                                                                                                                                              Man I hope there's some other sonic characters involved as AT's.

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                                                                                                                                                Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                View PostNosferatu, on Feb 2 2008, 10:05 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                EDIT: OH YES! SHADOW IS AN AT!
                                                                                                                                                He uses Chaos Control to slow down everyone but the user.


                                                                                                                                                D:

                                                                                                                                                that sucks. seriously. Sakurai is reluctant to put actual nintendo characters in it but throws cameos to sega ******s left right and centre

                                                                                                                                                what a **** load of ****

                                                                                                                                                death to the emohog

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                                                                                                                                                  Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Isn't this the only other Sega cameo apart from Sonic?

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                                                                                                                                                    Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                    one too many

                                                                                                                                                    if that prick is there, others are likely to appear :/

                                                                                                                                                    next we'll be hearing Raiden is an AT

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                                                                                                                                                      Posted 02 February 2008 - 11:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                      View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 2 2008, 10:18 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                      one too many

                                                                                                                                                      if that prick is there, others are likely to appear :/

                                                                                                                                                      next we'll be hearing Raiden is an AT


                                                                                                                                                      Who would want Raiden, give me Subzero.

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                                                                                                                                                        Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Subzero could fatallity people. :D. OHKO's.

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                                                                                                                                                          Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Exactly. Or maybe Guro. He would make a cool AT.

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                                                                                                                                                            Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                            View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 2 2008, 07:18 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                            one too many

                                                                                                                                                            if that prick is there, others are likely to appear :/

                                                                                                                                                            next we'll be hearing Raiden is an AT

                                                                                                                                                            It's allright Larharl. Calm down. It'll all be okay.

                                                                                                                                                            One month and 9 days to go. Woot. Sucks to be PAL.

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                                                                                                                                                              Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Is canada pal, or are you not from canada?

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                                                                                                                                                                Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                View PostCaael, on Feb 2 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                Is canada pal, or are you not from canada?

                                                                                                                                                                No, I'm not PAL. I'm just saying it sucks for people that are PAL as they get Brawl June 1st.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  According to sales figures in Japan, Brawl sold out more than 80% of its initial shipment, about 500,000 copies, in its first day. A great start, for sure.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    So it looks like 3 sets of japanese parents bought a SSBB cartidge for each of their kids?

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                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 03 February 2008 - 02:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      View PostNosferatu, on Feb 3 2008, 12:34 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                      No, I'm not PAL. I'm just saying it sucks for people that are PAL as they get Brawl June 1st.

                                                                                                                                                                      Oh well. I guess it would give me time to go out and buy a Wii.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 03 February 2008 - 02:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        The live footage is awesome. You even get Japanese commentary that you don;t even understand! On one of the live feeds, there's even a guy that occasionally yells something in the background, and it's always the same thing! It's awesome!

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                                                                                                                                                                          View Postescout, on Feb 2 2008, 05:39 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                          Who would want Raiden, give me Subzero.


                                                                                                                                                                          wrong Raiden, think MGS 2,

                                                                                                                                                                          the PAL release isnt as bad as i was expecting, was expecting to wait til atleast September to see it over here

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                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Yeah. I was honestly thinking MGS2. I can't see Snake being in Brawl without him being an AT. Or Sonic being in Brawl without Tales being an AT...

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                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Watching the final smash montage on GT, DK's FS is crap!!

                                                                                                                                                                              Zeldas/Shiek is a 1HKO if it hits you and makes the screechy baseball bat sound



                                                                                                                                                                              Forget what I said before, i'm excited about the game again now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 3 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                wrong Raiden, think MGS 2,

                                                                                                                                                                                the PAL release isnt as bad as i was expecting, was expecting to wait til atleast September to see it over here


                                                                                                                                                                                I know, it was a joke. Althoug, Subzero would still be a cool addtion....and no, that pun was not intended.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  SOme FS's are cheaper than others. For example, Link's is a OHKO, but only hits one person, but Ganondorf's is also basically a OHKO, but can hit multiple people.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    DK has the worst FSDK has the worst FS

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      The bongo drums one? Ya, that kind of sucks. Dedede's(sp?) final smash looks preatty bad too though.


                                                                                                                                                                                      And I know I've already said it, but Lucario actually looks good. He is fast, he isn't clunky liek Mewtwo was, and his B^ move looks really good. I'm thinking of maining him, well, and Link of course.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Also, in the link that I posted with Toon Link Vs. Ganondorf, what is that huge explosion about halfway through? Is it an item or what?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 03 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Peach has the worst FS. XD


                                                                                                                                                                                        Link's isn't a 1hko. It just does an assload of damage.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Zamus' 1hko'd Pit, but he's a lightweight.

                                                                                                                                                                                        GANONDORF's IS OP!!!11oneoneoneoneone

                                                                                                                                                                                        ROB's pwns.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Where are you watching the FS PDM? I would like to see Zelda FS x3.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 03 February 2008 - 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            http://youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 03 February 2008 - 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Nice. Some are great, some are terrible.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 03 February 2008 - 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I really like Zelda/Sheik's Final Smash for some reason. =P

                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, looks like Brawl Central showed new Kirby hats. I love the way Kirby looks with his Ganondorf costume.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah =)
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I like Marth and Link/Toon Link FS also.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Snake's FS is also cool kinda.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 03 February 2008 - 06:36 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Forget what I said before, i'm excited about the game again now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Next time he posts I bet he won't want the game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've narrowed my main down to Meta-Knight or Lucario. With Shiek as secondary and Samus third.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Link definetly, and Lucario, aslong as the video foottage does him justice. I will definetly play as others, just to see what they are like, but from what I am seeing, Lucario and Link definetly. 10$ says by the end of February there will already be a Tier liast up made by some Japnese "Pros".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 03 February 2008 - 07:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Link, Pit and Ike are going to be my mains. When I unlock Marth, I may switch out Ike for him, depending on which is better for me. But I'll still play as all the characters to familierize myself with thier move sets so I can counter them. It's how I pwn aganst Roy and Marth so well in Melee, I play as them so much, I know how to play against them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://youtube.com/watch?v=LTnJVNYCW6g

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why would they have this in?

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I mean I am happy with it but like, GS won't have it's own stage with no playable characters...?

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Then again Animal Crossing got a stage...hm

                                                                                                                                                                                                          And I'll be maining the first 4 in my sig, and using the other 4 alot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            If I ever get this game, then MetaKNightand Samus will be my mains. I still have to decide on the last guy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostBlitz Ace, on Feb 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://youtube.com/watch?v=LTnJVNYCW6g

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Why would they have this in?

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I mean I am happy with it but like, GS won't have it's own stage with no playable characters...?

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Then again Animal Crossing got a stage...hm

                                                                                                                                                                                                              And I'll be maining the first 4 in my sig, and using the other 4 alot.


                                                                                                                                                                                                              That is pretty good music though

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Honestly, the music in the youtube video sounds like something from a GBA game. :( It could've been done better imo. Still, it's nice to see some more representation. Also, keep in mind that this DOESN'T confirm a stage, it only confirms that you can have this song played on a stage (or any stage, actually, at least I think you can do that).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ladies and gentlemen, there is GS music in Brawl.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LTnJVNYCW6g

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's basically a remix of many songs from the games put together to make an aweosme soundtrack.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View Postgsninja, on Feb 3 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ladies and gentlemen, there is GS music in Brawl.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LTnJVNYCW6g

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's basically a remix of many songs from the games put together to make an aweosme soundtrack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This would kick ass as a DDR or Guitar Hero song.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      View Postgsninja, on Feb 3 2008, 08:03 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ladies and gentlemen, there is GS music in Brawl.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LTnJVNYCW6g

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's basically a remix of many songs from the games put together to make an aweosme soundtrack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Are you sure those songs are in Brawl?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sick remixes! Though, are those the only two songs there? Surely there would be more (anyone else feeling the "Venus Lighthouse" theme and "Saturos' Battle" theme?)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This is totally worth returning to the forums over. Definitely the most (and best) recognition GS has had in years!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, it's GS music in Brawl. I saw the links somewhere on GameFAQs, but this soundtrack is legit GS music for Brawl.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It needs a DDR. Seriously. Or to be in a GH game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 03 February 2008 - 11:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've heard that Brawl has 300+ songs. Not surprising there's a Golden Sun one in there after all. :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 03 February 2008 - 11:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So I'm guessing this is fake after all...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.maj.com/gallery/JoeMeas/Rifles/supersecretphoto.jpg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm disappointed. This could've been an awesome game. :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 03 February 2008 - 11:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    yes it would, Leo would pwn all though and you know it. Megaman would be in fourth, with God in second and Marth and Duke tied for third.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 04 February 2008 - 12:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Leo would pwn all with these moves alone:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm surprised no one mentioned Jesus.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As for the songs, they're good but I prefered the originals. I would have wanted Saturos more as well.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not highly impressed with the remixes (one of the things I love about Brawl is the music.) I was just excited to see some representation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Also, the rumored number of music clips is 314, I've seen that number alot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://youtube.com/watch?v=BIkjOJs8ipo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This is what goes through my head whenever someone says "Golden Sun."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Or this

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 04 February 2008 - 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              YYAAA GOLDEN SUN IN BRAWL WITH MUSIC YAAAAA WOOOOOT[/GSFanboyScream]

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.youtube.c...I&feature=bz302
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                At some point someone has probably posted this before but it makes me happy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Still, why use the music for the final boss of Sonic Adventure 2 for the Green Hill Zone. It doesn't really fit it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                EDIT: Apparently you can change the songs if you want to. Is that true?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:20 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  These are all pictures of Isaac, who uses Move to push other people around. Honestly, I think that Move is a really good choice for his AT performance, despite it being a simple field Psynergy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nice, he looks great in 3D. I guess the Master Hand won't be returning to Brawl though. :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah =)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Looks cool. Now I'll like to see a video of it x3

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Only thing is, I never imagined the Move hand to be that huge, but I guess for the sake of gameplay they made it so. After all, it would be too easy to dodge if it were tiny...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MASTER HAND MUST RETURN. :(.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Nah way. I'd take Isaac as an AT over Master Hand any day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well ya, but still, Master Hand would've been an AMAZING AT. Make him a little less rare than Mew, and it could work.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Port Town Aero Dive looks like an awesome fun-tastic stage even though I absolutely hate moving stages. So it must be good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Mario Kart stage looks fun, but too similar to the CF stage in Mellee

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View Postihatekraden, on Feb 4 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Port Town Aero Dive looks like an awesome fun-tastic stage even though I absolutely hate moving stages. So it must be good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I remember racing on that stage in F-Zero GX for GameCube. Absolutely, insanely difficult, but it was a great game all around and I'm glad to see it represented in Brawl. I hope there's a Mute City remix too, that's a great song.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As for Isaac, his model is done remarkably well and I'm just happy to seem him visualized in 3D. While Move may not have been my first choice for Psynergy, it probably is the best "representation" of it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also, this is a very recommended read.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Could you explain what exactly Move does.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And about the Master hand, I can see him still being the final boss in Classic Mode.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pushes things.. have you never played Golden Sun?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 4 2008, 02:53 PM, said:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I kind of just glanced through that, but I remember reading that Brawl would be the last Smash Bros. game. Or at least the last Smash Bros. game Sakurai would make, in which case, nevermind. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Isaac's AT looks a bit crap, then again so do the rest of them, do you know what else pushes things? Mr. Saturn and you know how much the sucked

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well it might not do the EXACT thing that it does in GS. I doubt you aim it around and move characters very slowly to the left or the right, inch by inch.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostWind Dude, on Feb 4 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I kind of just glanced through that, but I remember reading that Brawl would be the last Smash Bros. game. Or at least the last Smash Bros. game Sakurai would make, in which case, nevermind. <_<

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For reference, Sakurai said the same thing about Melee.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  lmao WD. Funny as usual.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I really love the GS music btw!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View Post.eugine, on Feb 4 2008, 03:54 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    lmao WD. Funny as usual.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I said something funny?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And I didn't know that, GL.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'd rather Isaac use Ragnarök or a Djinn like Flint or something, but at least he's in it somewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So there IS hope. Well, we will probably have to wait for the NEXT Nintendo system, if history repeats itself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostSkidzorz, on Feb 4 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So there IS hope. Well, we will probably have to wait for the NEXT Nintendo system, if history repeats itself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And that's a whole topic in itself, I have to wonder how Nintendo's next console will be backwards compatible to Wii games. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:58 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Or at least the last Smash Bros. game Sakurai would make, in which case, nevermind. <_<
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I found that funny =)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 04 February 2008 - 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh yaaaaaaaa. Wow, that shall be a pickle. I can't really see them donig the motion sensing for TWO consoles, but you never know. If they do do backword combatability, they could make it so that only the Wii games use the Nunchuck and crap, but the new games that are only for that system, will use the controller that they make for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 04 February 2008 - 06:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This is not the topic to discuss this (if anyone wants to make a "Next-Next Gen Console" topic, go right ahead), but I can already lend credit to the idea that the next Nintendo console will be an evolution of Wii, not a revolution.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That said, the link I provided earlier provides a great explanation of why we can expect our top choices for Brawl, including Ridley, Isaac, and Krystal, to be in Smash 4.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 04 February 2008 - 06:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The fact that Isaac's in the game is all it takes to make me completely and utterly content with Brawl. It's all I ever wanted to see in the game. ^.^

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Also, that's a very interesting topic, GL. Hopefully, Isaac can be playable in the next SSB, if it'll be made.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 04 February 2008 - 06:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think that this little bit(AT and music) is proof enoguh that there will be a GS3.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 04 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just reposting this link, it really is worth the read.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 04 February 2008 - 09:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The words, "this is the last SSB game" never were said.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What was said was, "We treated this game as it would be the last in the Smash Bros series - just as we did with melee."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      or something along the lines of that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 04 February 2008 - 09:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I was looking for the page where I got my idea that it was the last SSB game in the series, but I never did find it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 04 February 2008 - 10:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So awesome.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And Move is the attack because it's unique and highly recognizable to Golden Sun. It basically acts like Master Hand swiping his hand across the course it looks like, pushing off everything on ground/hand level. Awesome awesome.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And I'm glad his model looks so good! Most assist trophies, well...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assis...4_071214b-l.jpg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Polycounts = fail. ;_;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So yes, Isaac is blocky, but for his first 2d to 3d transition, and given the constraints on assist trophies, he looks great!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 05 February 2008 - 12:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I want to cry. I've been listening to the soundtracks that are in Brawl and they bring back such a sense of nostalgia that they make me want the game A LOT more now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&...ons&page=13

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Here are the soundtracks, starting from #1 on page 13 and going all the way to #231 on page 1.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I really wish I had my laptop right now, because my Dad's computer sucks. I can't listen to music or watch movies, so I really have no idea what your talking about. Is the track that Doom Dragon theme? Or Dullahan? Both were awesome.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostWind Dude, on Feb 4 2008, 01:32 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Only thing is, I never imagined the Move hand to be that huge, but I guess for the sake of gameplay they made it so. After all, it would be too easy to dodge if it were tiny...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, the hand was about as tall as Isaac was in the GS games, but this is still a bit big....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm dissapointed with the psyenergy they chose to use, but they did a great job on makeing Isaac 3D. =D

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Whai no Ragnarok?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well Master Hand is a boss again. Final Destination looks pretty cool, but they overused space a bit. Still looks good though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This basically means that we won't get downloadable content. Well, we may, but if we do we won't get Issac, because they wont have him as an AT, and a character.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Anybody expecting downloadable content is setting the bar waaaaaay too high. No games so far have had downloadable content on Wii, why would smash be different? ( Correct me if wrong)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, the PS3 and the 360 are doing it, so why can't we expect it from the WII. I mean, you can download games(Virtual Console), so why not content?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Because the Wii is crap.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But really, it's gonna happen at some point, I just doubt it will start with Smash. And even if they did, they're not going to have it right after the release. Give it a few months and maybe, but not so close after release.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I was thinking more so in a few monthes, or maybe a year.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I sincerely doubt we'll get downloadable content. It's not that it necessarily conflicts with Nintendo's philosophy or that the Wii is incapable (both can be argued, however), it's simply that the Brawl project has been absolutely immense - 2.5 times Melee's development with an entire studio of 100+ game developers dedicated solely to Brawl's development. This game is already more complete with content than we can imagine, and adding downloadable content would somehow seem to "undermine" all that effort.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Besides, Brawl will (and already has) sold well, and will last certainly for many years to come.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A good start would be like XBLA, where you can download small games that aren't quite big enough games to be sold individually. The crossbow training would be a great example, if only it didnt come with the zapper, because that's kinda hard to download from the internet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Edit: I agree with GL, it's like when you say ' a bit more, a bit more, oh wait too much'

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I assume XBLA is X-Box Live Arcade, am I right?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @ GL-But it wouldn't really undermine all that work. It would be a great way to keep the game gonig for an even longer time than it normally would. Like, every month, they coem out with something new. Not nessecarily big, but just a new addition. Maybe one month some music, the next month, an event, and then once in a while, a stage or a character.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes you are right. I use acronyms and shorthand a lot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I dont think it really needs downloadable content. It's not neccessary, it doesnt add much to it and it's a lot of wasted efforts if only a few games will be compatible.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We all know people will make mods of the game though, and will make there own characters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That only really happens on PC versions of games, it's really difficult to mod a console game. Adding your own character is near impossible, even on a PC

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ahh, alright then. What about the modded PSP SSB. It was acutally a very well made game, and with over 100 characters. And how about the modded Guitar Hero? Well, I guess Guitar Hero wouldn't be THAT hard, but still.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            PC games are installed in a general directory, like C:/Program Files/Video Game. It's easy to open that directory and edit game files using a 3rd party program. You can even edit some stuff in notepad. This appealed to a lot of gamers and now many games actually have dedicated modding tools shipped with the game. Oblivion, Crysis, Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Nights 2, just to name a couple, have their own toolsets to mod the respective game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Consoles don't have that except The Forge in Halo 3, Stage Creator in Brawl, and the Map editor in Advance Wars, but those don't count. (it's not really modding) Other than that you actually have to hack your consoles and software to customize your games, and it's not easy to do without specific instructions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And the only reason it works with the PSP is because you can download games onto it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think it's convenience, since it's so easy to put all kinds of crap on a PSP.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The only thing that Brawl will have that could be considered downloadable will be stages people make and submit to where ever it is they would go and Ninty randomly selects one and sends it out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/va.../various10.html

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    XD Forgot about this:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    With a feature like that, won’t I be able to play this game forever?!


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Rofl. Nice find PDM. XD

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Downloadable content wouldn't be all that bad, but after a while, the game would just be overbloated with crap. It's like takeing a really nice bike, and drenching it in tassles and bells, and whole bunch of other stuff. After a while, it just looks like a pile fo crap, and might not even be of any use (until it was stripped of the crap).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'd still like to see downloadable content, but NOT once a month, that's way too often. I'd suggest once every two or three months. 4 or 5 years with 4 to 6 additions per year still seems like a bit much though. I'd really like to see the possibility of some custom stages being turned into real stages, and then being put up as downloadable content. That'd be pretty awesome.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And the PSP's only redeeming factor, is that you can do stuff like what Skidz mentioned. It's easy to make games that can be played on it thanks to the emulators available, and the way it's OS works.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As for the update, I'd like to point out the light processing once again. Notice how the positions of the shadows on the stage change with the scenery.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Takeing =/= taking, Mr. Nazi.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          o.o OoOoOoOo... :3 Golden Sun music in the SSBB OST. It's really catchy. Anyone else hear it yet?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ._. Then again, anyone even have the OST? (Besides listening to it on youtube or streaming it)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 06 February 2008 - 01:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've found a torrent. Very slow though. I think there is 1 seed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 06 February 2008 - 02:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Drop your upload rate, and use a port greater than 55000. I usually drop mine to 5kbps when it's slow, and I always use port 57000 or 57001.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 06 February 2008 - 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                there' a torrent at torent reactor (i think) that has like 30 seeds, should have it downloaded this evening, this OST is going to be awesome ^__^

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As tempting as it is, I myself will wait until I get the game to listen to the music tracks. The music is definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to most about Brawl (and in video games in general), and I'd like to be pleasantly surprised when I first hear those tracks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Still, from what's already been shown on the Dojo, the music in this game may very well be the best original soundtrack of any game ever.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I forget, does brawl come with a second disc that has the soundtrack on it. For some reason I'm thinking it does, but I may be thinking of a different game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 6 2008, 05:39 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As tempting as it is, I myself will wait until I get the game to listen to the music tracks. The music is definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to most about Brawl (and in video games in general), and I'd like to be pleasantly surprised when I first hear those tracks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Still, from what's already been shown on the Dojo, the music in this game may very well be the best original soundtrack of any game ever.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      i think you may be right

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      the track list is just amazing


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Long list. Where is GS?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:36 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          R11 Battle Theme Medley - Golden Sun


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          it would be there, it is pretty tricky to find though

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i think the final fantasy OSTs may have met there match

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh thanks. You really think so? I mean ya, that's a ****LOAD of songs, but if they jsut picked like, 40 of the best ones, it wouldn't match the FF soundtrack.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              that's a crap load of tracks from some of the best composers in the business

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              at worst its a "best of" collecton for series like Zelda and F-Zero that happen to be on the same OST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              epic win n my book

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 06 February 2008 - 01:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I am in no way denying it's greatness.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 February 2008 - 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View Postescout, on Feb 6 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I forget, does brawl come with a second disc that has the soundtrack on it. For some reason I'm thinking it does, but I may be thinking of a different game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Brawl is a dual-layered DVD disk, the first Wii game to be so.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 06 February 2008 - 03:09 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As tempting as it is, I myself will wait until I get the game to listen to the music tracks. The music is definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to most about Brawl (and in video games in general), and I'd like to be pleasantly surprised when I first hear those tracks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You will be pleasantly surprised, trust me. I heard all the soundtracks and they make me want the game even more than before. I don't want to listen to them too much, though, since they'll lose their epicness (For lack of a better word) if I do. =|

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah. I think I know too much about Brawl without even playing the game x3. I'm gonna take a break from reading new info...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 06 February 2008 - 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's an impressive list. I would have liked the gym battle theme for pokemon or the music for the Doomsday Zone from Sonic and Knuckles. Still it's a great list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 06 February 2008 - 05:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          What about What I'm Made Of from Sonic Heroes? That's an ass load better then the Sonic Heroes theme. Plus it would make lots of sense to be in Brawl.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 06 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            To whoever downloaded the OST, is this song [link here] on the Brawl OST? I have no idea what place it would have, but I think if they found somewhere to put it in, it will be awesome =)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think they will have to up the tempo a bit though...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Eugine, just do a Ctrl+F/Find "Snake Eater" on this page and you'll be able to see if it's in the list or not without spoiling any other songs. ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Cest ici. ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 February 2008 - 09:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah Blink. I see two Snake Eater listings but I don't really know what songs they are ;)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That's why I wanted someone with the OST to help me out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Well Eugine, you could always look up those songs on Youtube. It's not the second one, and this is the first one: (song spoilers?)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So, that should answer the question.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 07 February 2008 - 12:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So just to clarify, there are two remixed songs from Golden Sun (the Doom Dragon theme and Felix's battle theme?)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Also, could someone please link me to the Felix battle theme (as I can't seem to find it), I'd appreciate it, thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Felix + Doom = Remix

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's all it is, one song.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 07 February 2008 - 01:26 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Brawl is a dual-layered DVD disk, the first Wii game to be so.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not surprised. It's got a crapload of content, and it's save file alone will take up 128 blocks, or something like that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What about What I'm Made Of from Sonic Heroes? That's an ass load better then the Sonic Heroes theme. Plus it would make lots of sense to be in Brawl.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's from the final boss in the game isn't it? I never made it that far, but I'm sure it's better than 'SONIC HEROOOOOOOOOOOES!'

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                torrent has finished and i now own an epic 312 track ost

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                a warning that torrent i linked doesnt have the artist and i've just spent a good 5 hours putting them in

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                awesome ost so far ^__^


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