[Toasty]

Cutscenes are awesome enough, and the levels usually have something interesting in them (like the giant Porky statue thing that chases you). I can't remember where I left off at though.

[Laharl]

PDM, on Mar 12 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

Be more constructive with your posts.

-gsninja

its a lot more constructive than the

HAI GUYZ, WANNA PLAY BRAWL WIV ME?

and

OMG! I UNLOCKED USELESS PIECE OF CRAP #732!

that has been making up the majority of this thread of late

[gsninja]

It's still unconstructive. :| I've noticed the amount of topics asking for battles, but they aren't nearly like the way you describe them, Laharl. For now, keep the battle requests in the Brawl Friend Code topic. This topic should be for discussion only, not battle seeking.

[PDM]

Did I mention Jiggly's rest got nerfed? ):

[Fritzy]

WHo uses Jigglypuff in the first place?

[Laharl]

people who mastered how to use rest >>

[Fritzy]

Just watched some Brawl videos, and DAMN, I never realised how good Link/Toon Link's FS really was. 65% damage.

[Laharl]

here's a question folks, are you invincible whilst doing your FS?

say Link did his and charged at me, what would happen if i throw a bomb-omb at him?

[Fritzy]

Well, when Link charges at you, he does it fairly quickly, so you'd have to have really quick reflexes. Still, that's a good question.

[PDM]

Fritzy, on Mar 11 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

WHo uses Jigglypuff in the first place?

Me.

[Golden Legacy]

laharl the slayer, on Mar 11 2008, 09:49 PM, said:

here's a question folks, are you invincible whilst doing your FS?

say Link did his and charged at me, what would happen if i throw a bomb-omb at him?

Fritzy, on Mar 11 2008, 09:51 PM, said:

Well, when Link charges at you, he does it fairly quickly, so you'd have to have really quick reflexes. Still, that's a good question.

I think laharl's question is better posed if we say, for example, Link uses his FS against some random character, what would happen if a THIRD person threw a bomb at Link?

[Folcon]

some characters are invulnerable while using thier FS. Yoshi is one of them.

[PDM]

Then I imagine Sonic + Diddy are too.

[Folcon]

sonic I think, I don't know about diddy. And I think pickachu is too.

[PDM]

I don't see why the others wouldn't be invulnerable, when their FS is practically the same thing.

[Gio]

I think everybody is invincible during their FS. Now some of the final smashes can be blocked and dodged very easily though.

[gsninja]

I know for a fact that Ike's invincible during his FS.

I'm predicting Ike to be no lower than a middle-high tier character for sure. I'd put him top tier because I'm such an Ike fanboy, but...you never know.

[Gio]

I love Ike to. I find him hard to control though, and only because he is a bit on the slow side.

[pHantOm]

MetaKnight = god for 1 on 1's, like seriously my friend couldnt even lay a hand on me.

A few things disappointed me with brawl, but its all level related.

I dont like how they didnt bring back Foutain of Dreams, and instead failure maps like big blue.

Also not alot of great maps in my opinion, alot of OK levels, but only like 2 that highly impress me.

Pokemon Standium 2 = <3

[Nosferatu]

****. Looks like my bad luck even reaches to spectator mode. Can't bet on the winning team for my life. YES I WON ONE!

[Gio]

Nos i know what you mean I have bet for the losing team 3 times already and i haven't won once.

[gsninja]

Not too long ago, I bet 5 coins on Ike that he would win in a random battle. He won with 3 points and the others had 0 or -1 points. :o

[Toasty]

I won my first bet. XD 28 coins and got back 51.

Anyway, I've got a few stages already made, and they're not just crappy ones either. They're not amazing, but they're pretty good imo.

[Gio]

I have made 5 stages so far and I like one of them a WHOLE lot

[gsninja]

I still haven't made a stage yet. I should do that eventually. :|

[Toasty]

I just finished my third. All of my stages have "lol" in either the name or the comments. I'm going to use that as a watermark of sorts.

.....yeah, that's going to get old fast. :P

[Gio]

Stage builder is fun. I am going to have to make some more though to unlock all the parts.

[Blue]

Gio, I'm surprised you didn't win that match against Ganondorf. o.o

[Gio]

I was to.

It was due a lot to the fact that I had just eaten a burger and fries from McDonalds and my hands were all greasy and I made a lot of mistakes I shouldn't have. I am really ticked at my self about it right now.

[Blue]

Say do you guys know the name of the Golden Sun song? I'm trying to find it on Gamefaqs.

[PDM]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lLtynLsnMY

[Toasty]

I unlocked it an hour or so ago. I just shut off my Wii and TV though.

[Gio]

Blue I tried to look it up on Gamefaqs to and it isn't there.

Toasty next time you turn on your wii look up the name of the song and post it please.

[Laharl]

Battle Theme Medley is what i've got in the OST

[Fritzy]

I finally got the Ultranova glitch to work on Melee. The Ultranova glitch is basically the Black Hole glitch on crack.

[gsninja]

I found out yesterday that the Toon Link glitch still exists in the NA Brawl version. I accidentally did it without trying while attempting to spike Lucario on Spear Pillar.

[Gio]

What glitch are you talking about GSN?

[gsninja]

There's glitch you can perform with Toon Link in which you use his DAir right as you're moving up from his second jump. The momentum from the opposite movements will cancel each other out and Toon Link will hover in the air in his DAir position for two seconds.

[Fritzy]

A nice glitch to try out is the Giant Jigglypuff glitch. Use his FS in the gap on Eldin Bridge, just as the the bridge is about to be rebuilt. If done right, Jigglypuff will stay giant untill KO'd.

[Gio]

I have seen the jigglypuff glitch done on the toon link pirate ship stage to. the video of it is on youtube.

[Someone Else]

If anybody at all get the Isaac Assist Trophy, say so! I want it... =/

[Gio]

I just discovered that I can still beat level 9's on brawl.

[Toasty]

I just discovered that my internet makes me lag. =/ I'm going to have to run some diagnostics or something.

[Golden Legacy]

http://www.smashboar...ad.php?t=151837

Perhaps this will help, give it a read.

[Envy]

Wind Dude, on Mar 12 2008, 10:53 PM, said:

If anybody at all get the Isaac Assist Trophy, say so! I want it... =/

I got it. You have to play 200 Vs. matches to get him. >_<

[Gio]

Yeah I found that out about an hour ago. I still don't have it, but my friend told me. It shouldn't be that hard considering that I hit 100 yesterday.

[gsninja]

I love giving advice sometimes. ^.^ I just had a conversation with a GFAQs user on AIM about how to use Ike effectively. Kinda fun, seeing as I like to rant about games. XD

[Folcon]

I'm finding Pit to be a fairly decent character. My only problem is, when I switch to a different character for a while and switch back, I get the movesets mixed up sometimes. I still sometimes forget that Pit's ^B move is only recovery and not offensive like Link's is. They are my two main characters when I play in matchs and the SSE, followed by Metaknight and Samus at anchor.

[Boomerang]

Aquamarine, on Dec 12 2006, 04:34 PM, said:

@watch: I absolutely love Ness in Melee, but i agree he could be a bit better. Possibly just a bit faster or something. I've never played as him in the 64 game, what is he like there?

~1212

awful, i and all my friends haed him.

no doubt kirby was the best in 64, i was pretty much undefeated, but they wasted him out on mele hes super slow still remain undefeated with shiek on cube, got beaten only once with link. that bein said his A attachs and zeldas up and A atacks were rediculously unbalanced. i remeber having a dream i got totaly pwnd by some amazing guy, but thats fair as he has some crazy and amazing non existant moves. im gettin this lan thing for wiii, im gonna make a leaderboard and competition topic and im gonna win! if theres staking other brawlers read and count on this, ill stake everything i have every match and clean u all out

helll yeah!!
adrenalyn rush, ive been waiting for this game for 3 years now
its like totaly
and utterly.....
there are no words.

BBLAGAGhisghspgsogpsgskjhjsjsg I WANT IT!! ARGG 2 MONTHS"!!!?!?!1111????//!!

-Pwnerang
xxx

[Someone Else]

Does anyone else think that the new Final Smashes makes the game a bit TOO random and less skill involved? x_x

[Mallick]

So do other items? And people play with those on all the time.

[Fritzy]

Not if you are playing against Ness/Lucas. Their FS's are probably the easiest to dodge.

[Nosferatu]

Items: Should not be allowed unless it's a **** around fun match.

FSes: I agree with WD. I've ended up calling bull**** on a few matches just because of those.

[Someone Else]

Mallick, on Mar 13 2008, 04:52 PM, said:

So do other items? And people play with those on all the time.

Yeah but most items don't make 3 KOs in 2 seconds. *cough Power Suit Samus cough*

[Gio]

Yeah a lot of final smashes are pretty cheap. I really do prefer to fight with them off.

[Toasty]

Well, there's skill involved in breaking the FS ball, so it's not ENTIRELY cheap, but matches do seem cheap sometimes when they're on. The same goes for the spicy curry. Not so much for either of the hammers though. They're pretty easy to counter.

In the GSSF tournament which will likely occur, I propose either no items, or no FS balls/Spicy curry's.

[Someone Else]

What about the way the FS Ball floats around the stage? Speaking of which, does the FS Ball have HP? I always end up reaching it first but since I almost always use Link, and he has crappy air attacks, I almost never break it the first time but weaken it, then it floats away and someone else breaks it. =/

[Gio]

Toasty, on Mar 13 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

Well, there's skill involved in breaking the FS ball, so it's not ENTIRELY cheap, but matches do seem cheap sometimes when they're on. The same goes for the spicy curry. Not so much for either of the hammers though. They're pretty easy to counter.

In the GSSF tournament which will likely occur, I propose either no items, or no FS balls/Spicy curry's.

I agree with no items. We should rely totally on skill.

[gsninja]

I agree with no items for the tourney as well. Items are very fun **** in 3-4 player Free-for-Alls, but they're more like liablilites than help in 1v1 matches. I like to rely on the potential of my character alone when in a 1v1 match.

[Golden Legacy]

Just waiting for the European/Australian release folks. Has anyone yet found out if Wi-Fi is region-locked or region-free? i.e. someone from North America can connect to someone in Europe for a Wi-Fi match, that sort of thing?

[Someone Else]

Judging from previous posts I'd say so.

[Folcon]

http://www.smashbros...fi/wi-fi01.html

this makes me agree.

[Golden Legacy]

That's not conclusive though.

But because this form of communication is greatly affected by the distance between you and your opponent, your brawls may not run smoothly if you’re really far apart—like, for instance, if you’re connecting between Japan and America.

Japan and North America are both NTSC, whereas Europe and Australia are both PAL. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but I'm just being wary. Obviously I have many different tournament scenarios and set-ups to consider depending on whether or not this is the case, as well as a secret project in the making.

[gsninja]

I think it's pretty safe to assume that Wi-Fi will connect with anyone anywhere. The question of lag depending on the NTSC and the PAL versions is still up in the air, I guess.

[Gio]

Well if it doesn't work then you can always hold two seperate tournaments.

Whats the secret project? :(

[Golden Legacy]

Oh you know, I just had the idea the other day to set up asagsdgawegcgawegwegdagdgaweg WARNING, YOUR COMPUTER MAY BE INFECTED WITH THE NOSPOILERGO@#$%URSELF VIRUS REBOOT RECOMMENDED URGENT -

[Gio]

LOL.

Is your secret project going to be revealed when we have the brawl tournament, or maybe before or after? When will we know. You have peaked my curiosity.

[Blue]

I just beat my Boss around on Smash. I hope he doesn't fire me. xD

[Gio]

wow blue lol

Btw everyone. they announced later comer assist trophies on the dojo today, and yes that would include Isaac.

[Caael]

Judging by XBL, you'll be able to play people around the world.

[Laharl]

it'd be pretty pointless being wi-fi enabled otherwise >>

[Gio]

Yeah it would be sorta pointless.
I really want to test my ability against people from different regions. I just think it would be cool.

[Golden Legacy]

Fair enough, this will make the tournament set-up that much more exciting. :(

[Blue]

I hate it when people quit out of matches on me. >.>

[gsninja]

I never had someone quit a match on me yet. Everyone went through with the whole match.

[Gio]

Blue, on Mar 14 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

I hate it when people quit out of matches on me. >.>

I think I quit out on you once because my mom asked me to do something, but I am going to guess that, that was justified.

[Toasty]

Golden Legacy, on Mar 13 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

Just waiting for the European/Australian release folks. Has anyone yet found out if Wi-Fi is region-locked or region-free? i.e. someone from North America can connect to someone in Europe for a Wi-Fi match, that sort of thing?

Well, I've recieved two automatically downloded stages from Japan so far, but I don't know if the WiFi for North America runs through NOA's servers only, or if they're routed from there back to Ninty's HQ in Japan.

Who here lives in Japan and has Brawl? *lolj/k*

[Gio]

Hey I just unlocked the Isaac assist trophy.I am currently in training mode trying to use it just to see what it looks like.

[Someone Else]

Take screenies and send them to me. I'll post my friend code... eventually. Shut up I'm lazy, and I don't see an incentive to do so when I'm sure that everybody here is a better fighter than me. Yes, that even includes Toasty.

[Blue]

Well, it was escout who quit on me today. He didn't give me a reason why though. >.>

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Mar 14 2008, 08:47 PM, said:

Take screenies and send them to me. I'll post my friend code... eventually. Shut up I'm lazy, and I don't see an incentive to do so when I'm sure that everybody here is a better fighter than me. Yes, that even includes Toasty.

XD

I dunno, I forwarded some ports for my Wii on our router, and that REALLY helped, but I haven't fought anyone here yet since. Only random matches with people who're bound to be ten times better. I won one match though.


The controls in Brawl just don't seem as refined as they were in melee though. They seem a tad sloppy imo.

[Gio]

to words. Gamecube controller.

[Blink]

Classic has better joysticks.

So six pages later, I return! I can now kick anyone's ass with Toon Link, and clearing event 41 doesn't do a thing. I am pissed, and seek justice! Or, an online match!

FC here: 4468 - 0629 - 4378

My Wii FC is 2018 6294 0816 5849

PM me if you want me to add your FC and I'll be more than happy to. And I don't mind posting this here because you can't be on my Friend List unless I ad you too. ;D

EDIT: Oh, and when you want to fight me? Send my Wii a message. If I'm there, I'll reply, and then we'll start the fight. It works really well, the flashing light on the Wii is like a gauntlet being thrown down. >:(

[pHantOm]

Marth is just as over powered as ever.

GG

[Toasty]

Marth is good, but I don't know about overpowered. I usually use either him, Ike, Link, Fox, or if it's a double damage 3+ players match, Dedede. I'll occasionally use Samus.

Marth and Fox are faster. Marth has his side B blade dance thingy (which is REALLY fast if you time it right), and Fox has a lot of good launching moves. Ike and Link are a bit slow. Ike has a lot of powerful launching moves that can easily send someone flying and do some real damage to boot, while Link's bombs, boomerang, and down A arial can rack up a lot of damage, and make an easy KO. Dedede can easily KO people with a number of moves, if not at least deal a crapload of damage. In a double damage match, an uncharged side smash is pretty much a garunteed KO on average sized stages or smaller. Charging his down B wile falling proves to be pretty effective in party Brawls.

Samus has a good FS, and the missles, bombs, and grabs can deal some damage. She's to slow for what her attacks offer though imo. Zamus doesn't have enough launching/finishing moves either.

Gio, on Mar 14 2008, 09:11 PM, said:

to words. Gamecube controller.

Haven't you read all my posts about why I'm using a GC controller and not a Nunchuck?


My point stands. On any control scheme (I can't say for the classic controller since I don;t have one, but stll....), the controls just seem a little unfluid at times. Moreso with ground attacks than arials, but you have to land sometimes, and even though this game does rely more on arials than melee, you're still using standard smashes/specials about half the time.

But with Ike, you can only really land hits on people if you use arials, aside from his running A side attack, and his side & up B attacks. His standard smashes take way to long to execute. He's still faster than Dedede or Bowser though.

[Gio]

I find Ike hard to use to. And just because he is slow. I am more of a fast character person. except for sonic. I hate sonic.

[gsninja]

Toasty, on Mar 15 2008, 01:41 AM, said:

But with Ike, you can only really land hits on people if you use arials, aside from his running A side attack, and his side & up B attacks. His standard smashes take way to long to execute. He's still faster than Dedede or Bowser though.

Ike can land plenty of hits aside from his aerials. You mentioned his A dash attack, Quick Draw, and Aether, but you failed to mention his AAA combo and his tilts. Heck, even Ike's DSmash isn't really that slow. This is the reason why it's going to be so easy to play mindgames with Ike...most people expect him to be really slow just because of his smashes. They'll think "Oh, he's really slow! This will be easy", then get a face full of BAir. :3

Also, it requires timing and spacing to land smashes. I don't know why some people think that Ike is an easy-to-use character that you can just pick up and play because he requires a lot more practice. :|

[Laharl]

gsninja, on Mar 15 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

This is the reason why it's going to be so easy to play mindgames with Ike...most people expect him to be really slow just because of his smashes. They'll think "Oh, he's really slow! This will be easy", then get a face full of BAir. :3

not so much mindgames, more your playing against retards, people with that mentality deserve every defeat they get

smash bros is probably the most forgiving fighting game when it comes down to character speeds

[Toasty]

And why do you say that?

gsninja, on Mar 15 2008, 07:37 AM, said:

Ike can land plenty of hits aside from his aerials. You mentioned his A dash attack, Quick Draw, and Aether, but you failed to mention his AAA combo and his tilts. Heck, even Ike's DSmash isn't really that slow. This is the reason why it's going to be so easy to play mindgames with Ike...most people expect him to be really slow just because of his smashes. They'll think "Oh, he's really slow! This will be easy", then get a face full of BAir. :3

Also, it requires timing and spacing to land smashes. I don't know why some people think that Ike is an easy-to-use character that you can just pick up and play because he requires a lot more practice. :|

Yeah, I use the B air a lot when I use him. It works wonders when timed right. :(

I don't use standard A attacks very often. I left a few things out to keep my post from being even longer than it was, but his down smash is the only smash that I'm ever able to use without preperation.

[gsninja]

I don't use standard A attacks often myself, but Ike's AAA combo is great. Use it.

[Toasty]

It's weird, because in Melee, ther were only a few characters I liked to use, and I only used one at a time (i.e. I started out maining one, then I switched to another, etc.). In Brawl, the characters seem more balanced somehow, and there's a lot that I like to use.

I'd also like to add Diddy and Ness to the list of characters I use. I think I use Marth, Ike, Fox, and Diddy the most, and in that order. I don't like Pit or Meta Knight. Both of their ^B moves suck as attacks, and Meta Knight is hard for me ti use properly.

[Folcon]

I like Pit. I've used him so much that I've grown used to his move set. I'm not happy about Link though. He fells slower than he did in Melee.

[Toasty]

He doesn't feel much different for me, and since pretty much everything in Brawl is slower, that means that technically, he got faster. That's just my point of view though.

[Gio]

Yeah everything is slower. I can tell mainly because Falco is a lot slower.

[Laharl]

Toasty, on Mar 15 2008, 07:38 PM, said:

And why do you say that?

well in most beat em ups, the slow characters are utterly destroyed by the fast ones, for example i've never lost to Astaroth using Talim in Soul Calibur. but in melee i wreaked havoc with Ganon, despite him being the slowest in the game

[Toasty]

It's even more forgiving in Brawl.

[Blue]

One thing I do have to complain about Marth is that is Shield Breaker turned from a slash to a stab move. He lost some range because of that, but it doesn't hurt him in the long run.

[gsninja]

I prefer the change from a slash to a thrust. The Falchion is a thrusting weapon, after all.

I used Marth for the first time since March 10th today. I want to get used to him some more; I've forgotten how nice it is to play with him.

[Golden Legacy]

It's official: Brawl is now the fastest selling game in Nintendo of America's history.

[Laharl]

gsninja, on Mar 17 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

I prefer the change from a slash to a thrust. The Falchion is a thrusting weapon, after all.

this is a falchion

http://www.levantia.com.au/military/pictures/falchion.jpg

cleary a slashing weapon :/

[gsninja]

Marth's sword isn't nearly anything like that. It's called the Falchion, but it looks nothing like a cutting-only weapon, at least. Also, why would Marth's Falchion's sweetspot be at the tip of the sword if it was a slashing weapon? ^.^

[Laharl]

are you implying that i have not posted a pictre of a falchion? because it doesnt adhere to the word of nintendo?

[gsninja]

Marth's sword is called the Falchion, but you know that it doesn't look like a slashing weapon like the picture you posted. :3 It's called the Falchion, yet it isn't a falchion...y'know? XD

[Nosferatu]

This seems to be everywhere today. Hmm. Maybe we could get some lost characters? They could add the rest of Mewtwo and Roy?

[Toasty]

gsninja, on Mar 17 2008, 01:27 PM, said:

I prefer the change from a slash to a thrust. The Falchion is a thrusting weapon, after all.

I used Marth for the first time since March 10th today. I want to get used to him some more; I've forgotten how nice it is to play with him.

Whatever you do, don't use his down A smash, and only use the down A arial if you know it will connect. Both will leave him vulnerable for too long to be comfortable. His dancing blade move is lightning fast now though. Also, unlike Ike, it's pretty hard to hit with his special if you're charging it in the air in aticipation of attacking somebody.

[pHantOm]

TOON LINK FTW

[Gio]

Nosferatu, on Mar 18 2008, 02:16 AM, said:

This seems to be everywhere today. Hmm. Maybe we could get some lost characters? They could add the rest of Mewtwo and Roy?

Dude I think that is freaking sweet. I really hope that will work.

[Laharl]

Pay moar money for useless features!

something PC gaming's been doing for years!

[Drizzy Drake]

pHantOm, on Mar 18 2008, 05:09 AM, said:

TOON LINK FTW

Ariel vA is some crazy s**t.

[Someone Else]

Haven't played Brawl in a few days. Bully's more fun. =(

[Laharl]

to the gallows with you heathen!! XD

[Someone Else]

I know, right? Curse me and my differing opinions! :(

If I get the TV back I'll play it probably. Don't feel like giving virtual people virtual wedgies and generally giving Jack Thompson a heart attack atm.

For the sake of discussion, does anyone like playing as Snake or is he too non-Nintendo?

[Toasty]

He just doesn't handle as well for me as other characters do. I'm not use to his style. =/

Nothing to do with Nintendo.

[Gio]

Wind Dude, on Mar 18 2008, 08:20 PM, said:

For the sake of discussion, does anyone like playing as Snake or is he too non-Nintendo?

My response to that.

Toasty, on Mar 18 2008, 08:38 PM, said:

He just doesn't handle as well for me as other characters do. I'm not use to his style. =/

Nothing to do with Nintendo.

[Blue]

Snake is fun but I'm just no good with him.

[Gio]

When I use Snake, I always end up killing myself at LEAST once. lol

[Someone Else]

I've heard some people say he's really good if you get used to him. Haven't unlocked him though; that shall be the next thing I do.

[Gio]

just battle on shadow moses ten times. It isn't that hard at all.

[Someone Else]

I know, that's why I said that's what I'd do next. XP

[Laharl]

easy to unlock much?

the main extension of single player game player in melee was unlocking al the characters, something that took months now takes a few hours. LAME

[Gio]

it didn't even come close to months for me. it took two days, and only because of how you had to unlock mewtwo.

[Laharl]

congratulations on having nothing better to do with your time

[Gio]

Because you know what I do with my time....o wait no.

[Caael]

Spend it saying poop and praying to god a lot?

[Laharl]

Gio, on Mar 19 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

Because you know what I do with my time....o wait no.

sounds to me like you plat smash bros games until your eyes bleed

[Gio]

or maybe I am better at unlocking stuff than the average person.

[Laharl]

maybe

but in melee atleast the unlocking came from doing something over and over (ie vs matches or classiic mode)

[pHantOm]

Was all the same, 1 stock matches lol.

[Drizzy Drake]

Still harder than Brawl.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Worst thing here is, my NSTC version of Brawl has arrived already but I still miss the goddaymn Freeloader! The website which I ordered it from said it already got delivered at the 13th but now a week has already passed and I still don't have the ****in' thing! I mean, how long could it possibly take longer for a package from the UK to get delivered here while Brawl (which I ordered in America) is here lying on my desk for 3 days already... O.o

[Drizzy Drake]

Guess you'll have to wait to banana rape us.

[Blue]

Haha, I finally got the Isaac Trophy! Wooo!

[Gio]

laharl the slayer, on Mar 19 2008, 05:00 PM, said:

maybe

but in melee atleast the unlocking came from doing something over and over (ie vs matches or classiic mode)

They make you do stuff like that to unlock levels and music now.

[Someone Else]

Hot damn, the SubSpace Emissary is boring... it feels like a Super Mario Bros. game gone wrong.

[Folcon]

And I'm still working on getting my 100%. I'm at 95% right now.

[Laharl]

Wind Dude, on Mar 21 2008, 01:45 AM, said:

Hot damn, the SubSpace Emissary is boring... it feels like a Super Mario Bros. game gone wrong.

worse than adventure mode on melee?

[Folcon]

its a hell of a lot longer, thats for sure.

[Gio]

I was wondering.

What are prat falls?

I saw it on my records the other day and have been meaning to ask.

[Someone Else]

Laharl, on Mar 20 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

worse than adventure mode on melee?

I couldn't tell you; I never owned a GameCube and so I never played Melee adventure mode. Not even at a friend's house.

For me, the only thing there is for it is quickly unlocking characters and I'm not even sure it's worth it. Going through Group Brawls against the CPU is more fun.

[Toasty]

It's better than adventure mode, but mostly because of the cinematics. It's not that they needed more time to perfect it, it's that they should've taken a different approach.

And WD, even though you've got Brawl now, I'd definately pick up Melee. Even after getting Brawl, Melee's still fun to play (and the attacks/movement is more refined imo).

[Someone Else]

Toasty, on Mar 21 2008, 08:22 AM, said:

It's better than adventure mode, but mostly because of the cinematics. It's not that they needed more time to perfect it, it's that they should've taken a different approach.

I'd agree with that, they didn't do anything wrong with the gameplay per se but there's a few things that were presented wrong.

For one thing, Smash Bros. characters simply aren't meant for a platforming game. Mid air-control is fairly limited when compared to Super Mario Bros. for example and plus recovery moves, it's just not quite right. Stages and enemies are boring and repetitive.

The only redeeming thing here are the cinematics and unlocking things fast. All in all, I'd rather unlock everything the "normal" way.

Subspace Emissary would probably have worked better as a standalone game with it's own rules, rather than Smash Bros. rules if you get what I mean.

[Toasty]

Yeah. I've been holding off on beating the SSE because I don;t want to unlock everyone the cheap and easy way. I want to actually have done something to get them.

[Gio]

I just beat Classic mode on Intense difficulty and it was freaking intense. lol

[PDM]

I'm stuck on the Great Maze after killing MK.

T_T

[My Best Wishes]

Friend Code
1805-2063-4625

I'll post it in the other topic aswell.
And I didn't even need to buy a freeloader ;)
Speaking of which
If you plan on buying a freeloader, DO NOT UPDATE to the latest firmware.

[Gio]

PDM, on Mar 23 2008, 12:01 AM, said:

I'm stuck on the Great Maze after killing MK.

T_T

The great maze pretty much sucks.

[PDM]

>_> Any tips? I've got completely no idea where to go. I think the last person I beat was MK after that mechanical boss. I beat Pit after that, but I think I was supposed to beat him a longggg time ago.

[Gio]

It doesn't really matter what order you beat it in. When you bring up the map up the maze there should be boxes that represent the rooms. in these boxes will be little dots and these dots represent doors. In order to beat the great maze you have to enter EVERY door. Another thing. The boss at the end sucks, ecspecially if you are playing on multiplayer.

[gsninja]

Awesome discovery in Brawl!

http://www.youtube.c...KJ_RitVFIE&NR=1

It's a kind of Super Wavedash that someone recently found in the game. What you do is run and perform your dash attack and, during the very first few frames of the dash attack, you cancel it into the character's Up Smash, which allows the momentum to carry the character a good amount of distance forward. You need to cancel into the Up Smash very quickly, though, as you'll only be able to do it during the very first 1-4 frames of the attack.

I knew Brawl would turn out something like this. People never gave it a chance. BTW, I didn't discover this, but I thought you guys would be interested.

[Drizzy Drake]

WAVEDASH!!!!!!!!

YAY!!!!

[gsninja]

I've been trying to perform it, but it's hard. I've only managed to do it once, but it's such a nice feeling to see your character slide halfway across stages like FD and Battlefield.

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I might be doing it wrong. You need to press the C-stick down for the dash attack and Up + Z for the USmash. Of course, these controls are for the GCN controller.

[Gio]

I find it Impossible to do.

[Someone Else]

Yaaaay I unlocked Lucario.

I don't play much, okay?!

[Toasty]

I haven't really been playing a lot either. I think I've got about 100 hours on it, though half of it is the game just sitting there while I'm waiting for someone to finish watching TV or a movie. =/

[Someone Else]

Toasty, on Mar 24 2008, 09:16 PM, said:

I think I've got about 100 hours on it, though half of it is the game just sitting there while I'm waiting for someone to finish watching TV or a movie. =/

I know what you mean. The same thing has happened to me, is happening to me actually.

What's your guy's favorite stages? I like Battlefield, PictoChat and the WarioWare stage. I like one or two others a lot but they haven't come to mind yet, so I guess I don't like them that much.

[Golden Legacy]

gsninja, on Mar 24 2008, 08:01 PM, said:

Awesome discovery in Brawl!

http://www.youtube.c...KJ_RitVFIE&NR=1

It's a kind of Super Wavedash that someone recently found in the game. What you do is run and perform your dash attack and, during the very first few frames of the dash attack, you cancel it into the character's Up Smash, which allows the momentum to carry the character a good amount of distance forward. You need to cancel into the Up Smash very quickly, though, as you'll only be able to do it during the very first 1-4 frames of the attack.

I knew Brawl would turn out something like this. People never gave it a chance. BTW, I didn't discover this, but I thought you guys would be interested.

I'm so glad! I'm tired of hearing people bash Brawl for being "simpler" and "less competitive" than Melee. All it takes is time for the game's true potential to be fleshed out, and it starts with patience, which leads to discoveries like this.

Good find gsninja.

[gsninja]

Well, look at Melee. It started off just as simplistic and competitive as Brawl was when it first came out because no one ever really got enough time to actually play the game. It took Melee seven years to get where it is now; Brawl's been out for barely two months and we've already discovered a "Super Wavedash". We can only expect more things to be discovered (Maybe more exploits, definitely more combos, etc.) from now on. =D

Also, I experimented with the wavedash, and since the momentum of the slide depends on the distance the dash attack has, only a select few characters can travel large distances, which includes Snake and Sheik. Most characters only travel the amount that you could expect Wavedashing to carry you in Melee. Holy crap, though, Snake can sure gain some movement. ._.

[Nosferatu]

Okay. I'm gonna need to remember that when I use Shiek.

I knew Sonic was good at Target Smash 5 (0:25:50) but I didn't think Mario would be that good either. (0:27:15) You ain't gettin' no link, those are mine. And I realize there are better, but whatever.

Edit: 0:22:86 with Marth.

[PDM]

Link or it didn't happen.

[Someone Else]

I unlocked Isaac. Why does he sound like a kid?

[PDM]

Because he's sure not an adult.

[Someone Else]

He sounds sort of like Pokemon Trainer.

[Caael]

In japanese games, the main character, despite being 18 or 19, will always sound like a 10 year old. Anime too.

[Toasty]

And that is why I hope that GS3 isn't on the Wii. D:

I like Delfino Plaza and Final Destination the most. I also play on New Pork City. Other than those, I use my custom stages.

[Someone Else]

I digress. Isaac in Brawl is still damn sexy. He's a decent AT, too.

I don't like New Pork City much. The camera there is annoying.

[Gio]

Bridge of Elden and Final Destination are the best levels

[Nosferatu]

Final Destination, Battlefield and Pokemon Stadium 2 for straight out battles. WarioWare and Spear Pillar are my favourites for just plain anything. Electroplankton is weird but fun.

[Mallick]

Wind Dude, on Mar 25 2008, 12:50 AM, said:

I don't like New Pork City much. The camera there is annoying.

QFTQFTQFT.

Can anyone answer the following?

Is it possible to save data from an SD card ONTO the console itself? Like, if you saved all your shizza on an SD card but can't use it anymore, can you put it on your Wii instead?

[gsninja]

I have no idea PDM. Maybe. :|

Anyways, I don't like New Pork City myself, partly because of the camera angle. Seriously, the camera doesn't need to be zoomed out that far. XD

Oh, and I was creeped out as well when I first heard Isaac's voice. Then I remembered that Monkey D. Luffy is 17 years old (As is Isaac) and has a high voice...

[Nosferatu]

Interesting fact. You know Ashely's Song and the Japanese version on the WarioWare stage? And you know how some times Japanese lyrics get butchered in translation? This is the VERY definition. These are the actual lyrics.

http://www.animelyrics.com/game/wariowaret...huriinoteem.htm

Edit: Now that I realize it, I've been doing that super wavedash for a while.

[Someone Else]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwFET7PJKE...feature=related

8D

[Blue]

No one is ever online any more. D:

[gsninja]

I still haven't even added you, Blue. =P Then again, that's because we never set up a battle.

By the way, I realized that I love Gray Fox. He's actually a pretty nifty Assist Trophy.

[Blue]

I was wondering why it still said I was waiting to confirm your code. D:

[gsninja]

Blue, on Mar 25 2008, 06:09 PM, said:

I was wondering why it still said I was waiting to confirm your code. D:

Rofl. XD

By the way, I can effectively do the "wavedash" now. Of course, the distance traveled depends on the distance of the dash attack, which is why Snake and Sheik can slide at such long distances.

[Drizzy Drake]

Damn. I just watched the East Coast Vs. West Coast duel from FC3, and it was some top notch Smashing. Ken and Isai were crazy. A 3 second win with Jigglypuff was a preatty good highlight.

[gsninja]

Dipset, on Mar 25 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Damn. I just watched the East Coast Vs. West Coast duel from FC3, and it was some top notch Smashing. Ken and Isai were crazy. A 3 second win with Jigglypuff was a preatty good highlight.

Link nao. O:< That sounds really interesting. I want to see Ken and how he uses Marth in Brawl.

[Someone Else]

Ike's counter is so cheap!

[Toasty]

Well then so is Marth's :P

Marth's counter is the only way I can keep Lin from killing me in the air with Din's Fire.

Mallick, on Mar 25 2008, 07:04 AM, said:

QFTQFTQFT.

Can anyone answer the following?

Is it possible to save data from an SD card ONTO the console itself? Like, if you saved all your shizza on an SD card but can't use it anymore, can you put it on your Wii instead?

Yeah, just go to the data management system on the Wii. All you have to do is go to the save file you want to transfer, select it, and click "copy." It should copy right onto the Wii.

[Someone Else]

Toasty, on Mar 25 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Well then so is Marth's :P

I've only run into trouble with it from Ike but I'm sure Marth's is too. Brawl is probably more balanced than Melee. But that doesn't mean it's balanced.

[Toasty]

It's really easy to counter someone with a hammer. Not so much in Melee from what I remember.

Anyway, I've been working on a technique with Marth. Run, short hop, down smash, and then a number of moves after that. Usually counter if it's a party brawl.

It works really well as a first strike move. I've landed it every time so far without being hit until after I land.

[Drizzy Drake]

gsninja, on Mar 25 2008, 09:36 PM, said:

Link nao. O:< That sounds really interesting. I want to see Ken and how he uses Marth in Brawl.

http://video.google....279764024261011

The smack talk throughout is the funnyest s**t ever.

[Folcon]

Wind Dude, on Mar 25 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwFET7PJKE...feature=related

8D

video has been removed due to term of use violation.

[Someone Else]

Wow, it was working fine yesterday...

Basically it was Ganon at the bottom of the stage running up and down some stairs to reach the top where the other 3 players were (who weren't doing anything) in a custom stage on Stamina with one of those vitality-draining flowers attached. He reached the top and almost made it to the end but then the flower dropped everyone's stamina to 0 and the game ended.

Yeah, you had to see it. =P

[Golden Legacy]

I saw it, it was absolutely hilarious. Kudos to whoever set it up and timed it so well.

[Someone Else]

For some reason, watching Ganon run is really entertaining.

[Blue]

No ones online anymore. I'm so depressed. D:

[Moonear]

Blue, add me.
4940-5184-6175

[Blue]

Never!
Oh alright, if you insist. xD

[Laharl]

HA!

I Played Brawl today!!

at a specialist game store!

i say play, i pissed about on SSE with pit of all characters

i was bored after three minutes :/

possibly because pit sucks so bad

Also; Ike is the official character of weeaboos XD

[Toasty]

Dipset, on Mar 26 2008, 06:47 AM, said:

http://video.google....279764024261011

The smack talk throughout is the funnyest s**t ever.

That's Melee, not Brawl, but w/e. It's pretty interesting. I might be able to KO one of them once, matbe, but I'm pretty sure they'd rape me in a macth. XD

[Drizzy Drake]

I never said it was Brawl. Just noticed that GSNinja did though.

[PDM]

Toasty, on Mar 25 2008, 07:36 PM, said:

Well then so is Marth's :( Marth's counter is the only way I can keep Lin from killing me in the air with Din's Fire.Yeah, just go to the data management system on the Wii. All you have to do is go to the save file you want to transfer, select it, and click "copy." It should copy right onto the Wii.

Thankies Toasty. Annddd, I've unlocked all characters, finally.

Dipset, on Mar 26 2008, 03:58 PM, said:

I never said it was Brawl. Just noticed that GSNinja did though.

I remember watching that a few years ago. A lot of it was awethome.

[Drizzy Drake]

It was awesome. Watching "gangsters" smack talk about Smash.

[Gio]

Toasty, on Mar 26 2008, 06:41 PM, said:

That's Melee, not Brawl, but w/e. It's pretty interesting. I might be able to KO one of them once, matbe, but I'm pretty sure they'd rape me in a macth. XD

I think that if I was playing melee that I could beat a lot of them and judging by some peoples brawl skills here there should be others here that could to. *looks at blue*

[Blue]

GSN is on but he no play. D:

[gsninja]

You wanna battle me? =P I don't know, I feel completely out of it right now. I'll think about it.

Oh, Boss Battles on Intense is so ridiculously amazing. I had a lot of fun doing it.

[Toasty]

Yeah, I've got 94% in the SSE, and I can't seem to figure out what I'm missing on the exterior of the Halberd.

[Blue]

gsninja, on Mar 27 2008, 12:17 AM, said:

You wanna battle me? =P I don't know, I feel completely out of it right now. I'll think about it.

Oh, Boss Battles on Intense is so ridiculously amazing. I had a lot of fun doing it.

I'll play you tomorrow. You seem to sound like one of the better players on the board. No offense to anyone.

[My Best Wishes]

Completed SSE, didn't like the final boss. Was he in a Nintendo game or something??
Unlocked all Stages, and all characters.
Working towards Isaac AT, and GS music, as well as finishing all events.

Has anyone added my code?? All I see are blue boxes with 'awaiting registration'