[gsninja]

I agree, this double update definitely was a good one. I was starting to get disappointed when I read that Mario's Down+ B was F.L.U.D.D., not because it isn't a cool move (I think it's very cool), but I thought Mario Tornado was going to be taken out. I felt relieved once I read it wasn't. ^.^;;

The Flying Stage in Pokemon Stadium 2 looks fantastic. Can't wait to try that one out.

[Caael]

Does nobody love my picture? ;^;

[Toasty]

Once you're finished with the picture, make sure the date that's in the picture is set to one of the days (recent ones) that didn't have a double update. Then send it to IGN under an alias, and say that it was only on the brawl site for like, two minutes or something. Just enough time for a screen capture.

After that, sit back and watch what kind of comotion it causes. :o


As for mario's new move, it would be REALLY useful if someone's comming back from being thrown off the stage. It wouldn't do any damage, but depending on it's power, it could be a really good finishing move.

And I'd think that if Luigi had the vacuum, when he used it, it'd pull everything (even items) within his reach towards him. That would be pretty useful for keeping other's from getting items, especially ones like the smash ball thingy, and in turn, allowing you to use them.

Basically, itd be a lot like kirby's B move, except with wider reach, and it would actually suck things in. Or maybe it would and you could then use them as projectiles.

But that reminds me of one of the few GOOD moves that Mr. Game and Watch had. It was like a bucket that you could catch projectiles in, and then you could use it as a fairly powerful attack. The other was his hammer thing. It usually averaged a power of 6, with quite a few 5's and 7's, many 8's, and the few, but powerful 9's and 10's.

And about that hammer thing, I read somewhere that if you played as a green MG&W on hyrule temple, and you got a 10 with the hammer within the first few seconds, bob-ombs would rain from the sky. Far fetch'd but as anyone besides me tried this? And if so, did it work?

[Nosferatu]

Mr.T, on Sep 6 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

Once you're finished with the picture, make sure the date that's in the picture is set to one of the days (recent ones) that didn't have a double update. Then send it to IGN under an alias, and say that it was only on the brawl site for like, two minutes or something. Just enough time for a screen capture.

After that, sit back and watch what kind of comotion it causes. :o

T, I like how you think. Here's a giant cookie.

And I've always wanted F.L.U.D.D. to be with Mario. I liked Sunshine a lot, so F.L.U.D.D. deserves the appearence.

Edit: I like the new music thing, and also the new Pokemon Stadium song.
I'm crankin' Ridley's music all the way to the top for a Metroid level.

[My Best Wishes]

Triple update, looks like a first.
I like the music addition, but the choose your own songs reminds me of NFSU.

[gsninja]

Heh, looks like a first. The My Music addition seems pretty fun. I think it's a good idea that you get to choose the chance a certain song will be played on a stage. =D

The Pokemon Stadium/Evolution song seems to be a remix of the songs played inside the Gyms. Nice.

[Caael]

Damn, no mention of transferring songs on SD cardsa to the wii.

[TheEnglishman]

I thought it would be the music from a Gym battle, not the Gym music itself. I got mixed up.

[Caael]

'The part at the end is that THAT song. Y’know...

"What?
Samus is evolving!"

...Yeah, that one.'

C'mon, who didn't laugh at that? Soulless people, thats who.

[I'm Always BROKE]

It made me grin, but nothing more but that's still saying pretty much. Still don't like F.L.U.D.D. though.

[Caael]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6691/finalfinalridleydojojj2.png

OMG RIDLEY CONFIRMEDD

[Folcon]

Nice!!

[Caael]

: D I r roxorz

[Folcon]

yes you do, now go RP, please.

[Caael]

But I dont wanna

[TheEnglishman]

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/public/style_images/gssv3/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />Caael, on Sep 7 2007, 07:45 PM, said:

OMG RIDLEY CONFIRMEDD

Talk about dedication. Maybe Nintendo execs have looked at that and gone 'Hey that's a good idea!'

[Nosferatu]

Send it to IGN. Now. They'll love it.

[Caael]

Me111, on Sep 7 2007, 09:48 PM, said:

Talk about dedication. Maybe Nintendo execs have looked at that and gone 'Hey that's a good idea!'

I'll post what I said about a page back

Brawl hits US shelves December 3rd and might come out in Japan before that. There's got to be at least a couple weeks (maybe more like a couple months) for manufacturing and printing discs, which means the game has to be totally done by then. And before that, the game has to finish undergoing localization, which is going to come after all the tweaking and balancing and bugtesting that would inevitably accompany adding a character or whatever. If you think they're still making character roster changes at this late in the game you're out of your mind.

@ Nos

I'll do what toasty said, send it to gamespot, telling them they posted it on the same day as metaknight ( hence the date), but didn't keep it up for long, but luckily I managed to get a screenshot of it.

They'll believe it. Tell them Masterchief is the new protagonist of Mario Galaxies and they'll probably send you a certificate.

[Nosferatu]

Link us when they post it. It should be fun for a laugh.

[Caael]

I'll do it in the morning. Well, later on in the morning, 20 past 1 in the morning isn't healthy when I was up at 7 yesterday.

I'll send it to IGN and gamespot, and post both of their reactions.

[Toasty]

The sooner you do, the better. The longer you wait to send the picture, the less likely they'll be to believe it.

But first, a few changes. Take out the fire breath. It just doesn't seem quite like what's his name to say that. And 2, put a period at the end. a professional site doesn't make grammar mistakes. Or at least, very very few.

But yes, this is the first tripple update. I'm pretty happy with it too.

[TheEnglishman]

Caael, on Sep 8 2007, 01:03 AM, said:

I'll post what I said about a page back

Brawl hits US shelves December 3rd and might come out in Japan before that. There's got to be at least a couple weeks (maybe more like a couple months) for manufacturing and printing discs, which means the game has to be totally done by then. And before that, the game has to finish undergoing localization, which is going to come after all the tweaking and balancing and bugtesting that would inevitably accompany adding a character or whatever. If you think they're still making character roster changes at this late in the game you're out of your mind.

It was a joke.

[Caael]

Still, people ignored when I said it the first time.

[Mallick]

Caael, that is an amazing job on the Ridley page.

[Caael]

Thanks, I hope you were being serious.

[gsninja]

Change the font of the text. Second of all, it might just be me, but it's a bit too obvious that you're adding Ridley to previous screenshots. I dunno if people are going to believe it. Nice try, though.

[Caael]

Grrr...

The text is verdana on the site, and it's the right size.

There are no other Ridely renders, those are the only two. I searched for about 5 hours last week, so dont make comments on that.

I know people wont believe it, because there are only two models to work with, and four screenshots, so ideally, I would need 5 models, which I dont have.

I know the grammar isn't right in places, stfu. I'm not king Grammar, I dont take pride in being able to perfectly construct sentances. The only reason I made this was because I was bored and had nothing else to do!


God!

[gsninja]

Heh, I was just stating what I thought. There's no need to tell me to "STFU". :wacko: I didn't say you did a bad job, though. It was pretty good work, it's just that the lack of models to use probably made it too difficult to make it believable.

No update today, so I'm disappointed. D= I want Sakurai to surprise us with a character not so many would expect (Like Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, etc.). I'm still not giving up hope for Isaac, or any other GS representative, to get into Brawl.

[Caael]

Sorry, I was in a bad mood.


It's the weekend, we dont get updates on sat or sun.

[gsninja]

Caael, on Sep 8 2007, 12:29 PM, said:

Sorry, I was in a bad mood.
It's the weekend, we dont get updates on sat or sun.

Oh, right. XD

By the way, I just want to get some opinions on something. In an Isaac fan club I created on GameFAQs, a couple members posted possible movesets and GS stages that I thought were quite interesting and thought out well, so I want to know what you guys think. Here's one of the movesets:

Entrance: A stalagmite shoots up from the ground then breaks open, revealing Isaac.

Final Smash: Grand Gaia
Isaac places his feet apart and lifts his hands (his whole body is glowing golden) over his head. A golden beam shoots out of the bottom of the stage, going through all obstacles to him, then widens to cover most of the screen, with rocks coming up with the beam. 10 damage per second to anyone touched by it, with the rocks doing 15% each. It lasts 5 seconds. The beam has no knock-back, but the rocks do (up).

Final Smash: Odyssey
The Gaia Blade splits into two glowing blue swords, and Isaac dashes forward. If he comes into contact with anyone he stabs them with both blades, dealing 5% with each and holding them in place. He then lets go of them and raises his arm, now glowing and crackling with golden energy. The energy converges in his hand, and forms a massive golden sword, which Isaac then uses to attack the enemy 5 times, dealing 15% with each strike. On the last strike Isaac smashes down with the sword, shattering both the blue blades and the golden sword, which then reform into the Gaia Blade. This last strike is the only one with knockback.

B: Ragnarok
Isaac raises his sword as if in preparation to stab down diagonally at about the angle of this slash: \. This is a charge-up move, like Roy's Flare Blade, or Marth’s Shield Breaker (you can't store it). As you charge, Isaac's sword is slowly enveloped in a golden light. Once you release it (fully charged), Isaac stabs down diagonally, and at the same time a giant golden energy-ish sword flies down from the sky and crashes down in front of him at the same angle as his sword. If the giant sword hits ground, it sinks into it in a shower of sparks. Otherwise, it keeps going until it goes offscreen. If not fully charged, Isaac just stabs with his sword. From no charge to fully charged takes a tiny bit longer than Marth’s Shield Breaker. Sword deals 5-15%, giant sword deals 15-20%, but large knockback.
B>: Stone Spire
5 large, conical rocks appear in front of Isaac, who then waves his hand in a kind of “Go my minions!” motion, causing the rocks to jet forward a ways. They spread apart as they travel, so this attack does much more damage when used up close. If used in the air, Isaac shoots them down diagonally. 5% per rock.
B^: Retreat
Isaac flashes golden, and morphs into a ball of light. Then it shoots upward (you can control the angle a bit) a ways, leaving a trail of shining lights. Any enemy hit by the ball takes 5%
Bv: Quake Sphere
Isaac sticks his sword into the ground, and the ground around him starts to shake. Similar to DK’s Bv, you can repeatedly press B to keep it going. It has a wider radius than DK’s Bv, and does more damage, but the shakes are farther apart time-wise. If used in the air, Isaac slashes downward, creating a golden shockwave that travels a bit past the sword and knocks opponents downward. 5% per shake. 10% for shockwave.

A: Isaac slashes horizontally with his sword 3%
AA: Isaac swipes with his sword horizontally the other way.. 3%
AAA: Flint: Isaac grabs his sword with both hands and smashes down with it. 6%
A>: Isaac leans forward and slashes horizontally. 8%
A>>: Echo: Isaac leaps forward (about 5 feet) and does a downward slash (kind of like his regular attack in Golden Sun). 15% You can press A again to make Isaac do a backflip slash, returning to his original position. 10%
A^: Isaac slashes in an arc over his head. 7%
A^^: Isaac swings his sword in a tall arc over his head, then swings it back in the opposite direction. 9% per hit.
Av: Isaac kicks forward with one foot. 5%
Avv: Vine: Isaac places his palms on the ground, and several thick, green vines erupt from it and scythe around him. 16%
runA: Geode: Isaac stops, and raises his golden glowing hand. A semi-large chunk of rock rises from the ground behind him, to fly over his head and smash down in front of him. This all happens in about 1 second. 9%

airA: Isaac slashes downward, then upward. 3% per hit
airA>: Isaac spins his sword in front of him. 6%
airA<: Isaac kicks behind him. 6%
airA^: Isaac stabs upward. 6%
airAv: Isaac stabs downward. 9%

Z: Isaac grabs the enemy with a psynergy hand.
Z>: Force: The hand zooms forward, still holding the enemy. It travels 10 feet, plowing through any other enemy. At the end of 10 feet the hand dumps the enemy on the ground. 10% if hit by hand, 5% to grabbed enemy.
Z<: Isaac's hands glow golden as the hand casually tosses the enemy behind him. As the enemy falls towards the ground, a stalagmite shoots up and hits them. 14%
Z^: The hand throws the enemy skyward. 15%
Zv: The hand throws the enemy to the ground, then curls into a fist and pounds them once. 12%

Taunt: Isaac spins the Gaia Blade, then slams it into the ground.

[Caael]

I would actually have Ragnarok as his Up B, so he could rise up, and bring the sword down diagonally. Otherwise, pretty good.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Pretty good? No, that was awesome! Really like that moveset gsninja. :wacko: Isaac is on my wanted character list again.

[Echo_djinn]

It's sweet but I still have my doubts if anything related too GS will show up in SSBB. We can only hope right?

[gsninja]

Echo_djinn, on Sep 8 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

It's sweet but I still have my doubts if anything related too GS will show up in SSBB. We can only hope right?

Very true. I want Isaac in Brawl more than anything, except for Golden Sun III. =P I have my doubts too, but I'm still going to keep pushing it.

For some reason, I really want to use F.L.U.D.D. It just looks so fun to use.

[Caael]

New character suggestion: Simon Belmont?

[Toasty]

Yeah, don't know who he is.

As for the moveset, the FS's are underpowered. I'd say 20%-25% at least for every hit with the huge sword thingy. Also, I wouldn't use retreat for the ^B move. Other than that, it looks pretty solid.

[Ironsight]

Must be some British guy us Americans have never heard about.
The poll still thinks i already voted btw

[Caael]

IDIOTS!

Simon Belmont? Castlevania? The main hero?


Man, you guys all suck for not knowing who Simon Belmont is.

[Toasty]

Yeah...never played that game.

And the poll says that I've already voted as well.

[Blue]

Caael, on Sep 8 2007, 10:20 PM, said:

IDIOTS!

Simon Belmont? Castlevania? The main hero?
Man, you guys all suck for not knowing who Simon Belmont is.

Don't worry, I knew who you were talking about.

[Ironsight]

I have Castle Vania, I just never played it. So no, i dont know who the hell you are talking about

[Caael]

At least somebody did

* glares at the rest*


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/RamenJunkie/SimonBelmont.gif

That is Simon Belmont. If you dont remember him, he will hunt you down and kill you.

[gsninja]

Eh, the poll says you still voted? I'll try to fix it tomorrow, since I'm going to bed right now.

[Ironsight]

Thats either Simon Belemont, or the definition of a transvestite

[Toasty]

He looks like he's about to rape my ass across the continent.

It's probably the whip.

[Ironsight]

Simon:

Spoiler

Mr.T has been a bery bad boy! Mr.T needs to be punished!

Toasty: *Screams*
Simon:

Spoiler

Hold still, me not finished yet

Toasty: *Still screaming*

[Toasty]

:wacko:

....

That's so disturbing that it actually feels like I've been anally raped. And it doesn't feel good.

SO ANYWAY. I'm a little dissapointed with the pokemon stadium music. I'd much rather have the battle themes, as they're MUCH more fitting. After all, it is a fighting game.

[Ironsight]

Im gonna wait until everyones on, and them im gonna take off the spoiler tags *evil luagh*

[TheEnglishman]

Caael, on Sep 9 2007, 06:20 AM, said:

IDIOTS!

Simon Belmont? Castlevania? The main hero?
Man, you guys all suck for not knowing who Simon Belmont is.

I knew and I haven't even played Castlevania. He whips Dracula.
I think that wouldn't be a bad idea but Castlevania has been on other systems as well.

[Caael]

That is why Sakurai is including 3rd party characters. I still doubt it will happen, but it would be cool.

[TheEnglishman]

Isn't Snake still the only 3rd party character?

[Mallick]

Mr.T, on Sep 9 2007, 12:13 AM, said:

:blink:

....

That's so disturbing that it actually feels like I've been anally raped. And it doesn't feel good.

SO ANYWAY. I'm a little dissapointed with the pokemon stadium music. I'd much rather have the battle themes, as they're MUCH more fitting. After all, it is a fighting game.

Like this?
http://files.filefront.com/pokemanwav/;851...;/fileinfo.html

[gsninja]

Ok, so I made up my own "B" moveset for Isaac:

B: Ragnarok

Isaac holds up his sword, then creates a sword made of Psynergy above him. Isaac then swings his sword forward, making Ragnarok come crashing down. Isaac can charge this move. The damage and size of Ragnarok depend on how long Isaac charges for. Damage ranges from 8-21%.

Left/Right + B: Flint

Isaac jumps forward, then swings his sword at the enemy, emitting a yellow light for a brief second as he makes contact. Damage ranges from 13-16%.

Up + B: Teleport

Isaac raises his right hand and, in a split second, teleports in the direction you wish. If an enemy is in Isaac's way while he teleports, Isaac will unleash a blinding slash at the enemy mid-flight for about 5-6% damage.

Down + B: Quake Sphere

Isaac thrusts his sword into the ground, making the area around him shake and making small rocks fly upward as Quake Sphere takes effect. Keep holding the B button to have Isaac continue the attack. Quake Sphere has a slightly larger area of effect as Venusaur's Earthquake from SSBM, but damage is slightly lower.

FINAL SMASH: Judgment

Isaay points his sword, which starts glowing with a golden color, up in the air. He releases four golden orbs of light upwards, representing the four Djinn needed to summon Judgment. the orbs come high in the sky to form Judgment. Like the GS games, Judgment will point his lion hand down, form that familiar blue sphere of energy, and fire it right down at the stage. The sphere will go through all platforms that are passable, then create a massive explosion that covers pretty much the whole stage. Anyone hit by the sphere before it explodes takes 5% damage. The explosion causes 40-45% damage with medium-large knockback.

I never really knew who Simon Belmont was. I've heard his name before, but his name was all I knew of him.

[Folcon]

Me111, on Sep 9 2007, 11:01 AM, said:

Isn't Snake still the only 3rd party character?

That has been anounced so far, yes.

[Toasty]

@gsninja: The B charge needs more power, but other than that it's a really good set.

[Caael]

His up B should be Carry, where two hands lift him up, and you can direct them in 180 degrees whereever you want for 3 seconds

[gsninja]

I was actually thinking about Carry. I just decided on Teleport because, well...he teleports! =D Carry would add more diversity, though.

[Caael]

...


DAMMIT

[TheEnglishman]

Lyn as an assist trophy... I can't say I saw that coming. Good to see their adding so much FE stuff.

[Caael]

Sakurai you *******. I wanted Lyn playable almost as much as Simon and Ridley!

[TheEnglishman]

Well at least she's in it. Better to have her in some way rather than none at all.

[Caael]

I'd rather have her not in at all, because even with AR, you still cant play as her.

[Blue]

I like how they tell you to be a cheap ass and to hold some one down while she slices them. xD

[Caael]

Bloody Sakurai...

[gsninja]

Me111, on Sep 11 2007, 08:45 AM, said:

Lyn as an assist trophy... I can't say I saw that coming. Good to see they're adding so much FE stuff.

I didn't really see it coming either. Having FE stuff is good, but having Golden Sun representation is 100 times better. =D Lyn looks fun as an Assist Trophy, at least.

[Toasty]

Just wait Caael. Ridley'll be an assist trophy, Dark Samus will be playable, and absolutely nothing pretaining to Castlevania will be in brawl. =P

I was a little surprised. I had pretty much forgotten about the discussion of which FE characters would be in brawl, so it wasn't like I was even thinking about it.

[Ironsight]

what? Only one person voted for Meta-Knight?!

[Toasty]

Probably because most/all of us already knew he was gonna be in.

[Ironsight]

oh

i think the pokemon stadium is the best arena in the game, besides that besieged castle

[Folcon]

About time we go some more FE representaion. Hmm, if GS goes get some rep, then maybe that will prove there will be another game. After all, if they go through the trouble to make a sprit, why not go on and make a game? There should be another Kid Icerous game coming out, right? Pit's in Brawl, so, there should be a new game for him, right, please tell me I'm right.

[Nosferatu]

escout, on Sep 11 2007, 06:15 PM, said:

About time we go some more FE representaion. Hmm, if GS goes get some rep, then maybe that will prove there will be another game. After all, if they go through the trouble to make a sprit, why not go on and make a game? There should be another Kid Icerous game coming out, right? Pit's in Brawl, so, there should be a new game for him, right, please tell me I'm right.

Wrong.

I can't say I expected Lyn to make the cut. The moment I saw "Lyn" and "assist trophy" on the same page, I just said "Oooo. That's gonna hurt."

[Golden Legacy]

^ To be fair, Ike was the better FE choice. Important character in two games, better international recognition, advertising the upcoming FE: Radiant Dawn, etc.

I'd much rather Sothe was in the game, as a dual-bladed character has the potential for a much more unique feel, as well as again exposing Radiant Dawn.

[Toasty]

Dual wielding? Just grab a sword user and pick up a light saber. :blink:

[Caael]

gsninja, on Sep 11 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

I didn't really see it coming either. Having FE stuff is good, but having Golden Sun representation is 100 times better. =D Lyn looks fun as an Assist Trophy, at least.

Get ****ed

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 11 2007, 07:08 PM, said:

I'd much rather Sothe was in the game, as a dual-bladed character has the potential for a much more unique feel, as well as again exposing Radiant Dawn.

Sothe could be a unique character in the game. However, I don't think he's too popular yet, since he was so useless in Path of Radiance. That's just pure conjecture, though.

[Folcon]

What do you mean useless, he picked locks for free, unlike Volke. Although, I think Volke is stronger, depending on how you level them up.

[Golden Legacy]

No, it's true though - Sothe played an extremely limited role (if any) in PoR, and it was possible that he could never even be recruited by the player. However, my argument against gsninja's is that neither Marth or Roy were even known to the non-Japanese market until Melee; not to mention, Radiant Dawn is being released in November, a full month from Brawl's release.

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 12 2007, 03:44 PM, said:

However, my argument against gsninja's is that neither Marth or Roy were even known to the non-Japanese market until Melee; not to mention, Radiant Dawn is being released in November, a full month from Brawl's release.

Mm, that's true. At least Sothe is known to the non-Japanese market. Plus, he might gain some more fame just for the fact that he actually has at least a little bit of use now in Radiant Dawn.

[Blue]

Heh, Halbred level. Laser cannon of doom anyone? Good thing Yoshi has a good Meteor Smash, that will be good for knocking people into it.
I think I'm going to laugh manaicly now.

[Ironsight]

any idea on what Meta-Knight's Final Smash will be?

[Blue]

Maybe he can eat that Lolipop thing and become invincible and if he touches you, it sends you flying.

[Ironsight]

it was announced already, huh?

[Toasty]

Metaknight's FS: He opens a can of kung-fu whoopass on everyone. AT THE SAME TIME. Yeah, he's THAT fast.

I'm pretty happy with this update. The stage's layout isn't exactly origional, but at least it's got a few other things going for it.

[Blue]

No, hence the Maybe. But it would be awesome though.

[Ironsight]

oh good, i was afraid i was gonna sound like a total noob. Perhaps he would do something involving his ship, like orbital bombardment from that Halo RTS

[Mallick]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 12 2007, 03:44 PM, said:

No, it's true though - Sothe played an extremely limited role (if any) in PoR, and it was possible that he could never even be recruited by the player. However, my argument against gsninja's is that neither Marth or Roy were even known to the non-Japanese market until Melee; not to mention, Radiant Dawn is being released in November, a full month from Brawl's release.

Roy wasn't a stranger to north america..

[gsninja]

I thought Roy was just as well-known as Marth in North America. Which means he wasn't really known at all.

Now THIS newest update is definitely going to put a twist to the game. It's going to be so fun customizing characters for battles. XD

[Caael]

Ridley mode makes everybody fly and breathe fire

[Nosferatu]

I want Phoenix Wright in Brawl.

I like the new options though. Full Metal Mario!

[Toasty]

Heh.

I'd probably prefer lightning-heavy mode. Stamina's fun too. =P

[Blue]

Lol, it would be funny if you did Bunny with lightning mode. No one is going to know whats going on.

[Folcon]

Poison mushroom tiny melee. looks cool to see these tiny characters lifting crates and weapons a hundred times their size.

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Sep 14 2007, 12:41 AM, said:

I want Phoenix Wright in Brawl.

I like the new options though. Full Metal Mario!

Assist trophy. I'll write some descriptions for Elite Beat Agents, Derk Stiles and Phoenix Wright as ATs.

EBA: They will appear, and the character closest will start waving their arms in the air in time to the song. They cant move or defend themselves like this. Lasts 20 seconds

Derek: Healing touch. He draws a star on the screen, and everybody but the summoner is slowed down drastically. It will gradually return to normal

Phoenix: He will shout ' HOLD IT!!' and time will freeze, for everybody but the summoner. Lasts 10 seconds.

[gsninja]

Well, it looks like the Ice Climbers are confirmed. This will put an end to all the statements that the Ice Climbers would get kicked.

[Caael]

Yess, some original characters haven't been kicked. Just get rid of Pichu, Dr. Mario and Luigify Luigi ( with Poltergust), Ganondorf ( with sword) and Falco ( with better moves in general)

[Eugine]

And Link. So that I may play with another character.

[Nickelback]

Caael, on Sep 14 2007, 04:38 PM, said:

Assist trophy. I'll write some descriptions for Elite Beat Agents, Derk Stiles and Phoenix Wright as ATs.

EBA: They will appear, and the character closest will start waving their arms in the air in time to the song. They cant move or defend themselves like this. Lasts 20 seconds

Derek: Healing touch. He draws a star on the screen, and everybody but the summoner is slowed down drastically. It will gradually return to normal

Phoenix: He will shout ' HOLD IT!!' and time will freeze, for everybody but the summoner. Lasts 10 seconds.

Wouldn't most of those games, EBA mostly, be too recent? I mean most characters in SSBM were taken from N64 games. Young Link, Shiek. It seems SSB is always one generaion behind.

Ice Climbers, gay.

[Folcon]

Just saw the smash update. Ice Climbers, as Tim Allen would say, "Ohh, No!" Wish I could find a good clip on you tube, but no luck.

[Golden Legacy]

I don't see why it's a bad thing... as far as unique characters go, the Ice Climbers are definitely somewhere on top. A little variation, plus some Melee nostalgia, isn't a bad thing, nor a bad update to the end the week with either.

[Nosferatu]

Whoo! My human missle targets are back! Nana gets to die first yet again!

[gsninja]

Haha, human missile targets?

I never really used the Ice Climbers. I'm glad to see them back nonetheless, though. The details on their suits and hammers are splendid.

[Caael]

Nickelback, on Sep 15 2007, 12:48 AM, said:

Wouldn't most of those games, EBA mostly, be too recent? I mean most characters in SSBM were taken from N64 games. Young Link, Shiek. It seems SSB is always one generaion behind.

Ice Climbers, gay.

That's because there was no zelda game inbetween Melee and OoT, so they had no other renders to use.

[Nosferatu]

gsninja, on Sep 15 2007, 02:53 PM, said:

Haha, human missile targets?

Samus' missles. They're small and are SO fun to kill!

[Blue]

*eye twitch* Must... Kill... Ice Climbers...
Annoying little sh***s

[Nickelback]

Caael, on Sep 16 2007, 08:23 AM, said:

That's because there was no zelda game inbetween Melee and OoT, so they had no other renders to use.

Majoria's Mask.

[Nosferatu]

Nickelback, on Sep 15 2007, 10:28 PM, said:

Majoria's Mask.

Majora's Mask.

And it was almost (or was I don't know) the exact same render. So technically it doesn't count as a different one.

And I share your pain Blue. I share your pain.

[Toasty]

Caael, on Sep 13 2007, 11:38 PM, said:

Phoenix: He will shout ' HOLD IT!!' and time will freeze, for everybody but the summoner. Lasts 10 seconds.

Nah, he'd yell "OBJECTION!" and then everyone but the summoner would get knocked back from the shockwave of the yell. =P

Anyway, this update surprised me a bit. Wasn;t quite expecting the Ice Climbers to return. However, like GL said, they WERE origional, and more origional characters means happier customers. Clones = worst choice ever.

[Caael]

But HOLD IT is a delicious pun...

Nickelback, on Sep 16 2007, 06:28 AM, said:

Majoria's Mask.

It's the same renders from OoT, so it doesn't count.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Today's update is wonderful! Diddy's hat moves! =D

And I still don't want Sheik in Brawl. Give me Sigurd!

[Blue]

Golden Hammer? Jeez, as if the original wasn't enough. DX

[gsninja]

The original was lethal enough, now there's one that's more powerful, faster, and allows you to float in midair? I'm not going to envy anyone who faces that thing...which will eventually be everyone. =P

[Toasty]

I think I'll have fun with this one. =D

[gsninja]

The Golden Hammer does look like a really fun weapon. I just want to see myself float in midair with it the moment I lay my hands on the item.

[Ironsight]

Battle Ship Halbred looks cool. Its gonna be fun lookinga t everything while holding an opponent in front of that LaZ0R

[Caael]

I want the squeaky hammer!

[Caael]

BRAWL IS ONLINE!



YAYAYAYAYAYAY

[Nosferatu]

New update is made of pure win. Finally the announcement about online play. I know my vote for this week's poll change.

Edit: I love you Sakurai. You though of bloody everything. Sakurai has leveled up! New rank: God.

[Blue]

Heh, I saw it coming, but I'm still excited about the update.

[My Best Wishes]

I'm really glad it's confirmed.
Friend mode looks so much better then random mode though, I'll really have to raid these and other random forums for FC.
GSS Brawl Championships anyone?

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Sep 18 2007, 08:03 AM, said:

New update is made of pure win. Finally the announcement about online play. I know my vote for this week's poll change.

Edit: I love you Sakurai. You though of bloody everything. Sakurai has leveled up! New rank: God.

That rank belongs to Ridley

[gsninja]

Ridley's too big to be in Brawl. *runs*

Anyways, I expected Brawl to be online, but this update was still great because it confirms 100% that Brawl is going to be online. And no, I'm probably not going to take part in a GSS Brawl Championship if it happens. =|

[Nickelback]

Come on GSN, lead by example and all that being a Mod.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Sep 18 2007, 07:22 AM, said:

That rank belongs to Ridley

No. No. No no no no. NO.

Now the biggest question. How's he going to follow up on that update?

[Ironsight]

SPARTAN-117 for Brawl

[Golden Legacy]

Nosferatu, on Sep 18 2007, 06:48 PM, said:

No. No. No no no no. NO.

Now the biggest question. How's he going to follow up on that update?

Sonic in Brawl would do it, I think.

DarkSword, on Sep 19 2007, 12:05 AM, said:

SPARTAN-117 for Brawl

^ ROFL. I can so imagine what you would put for your taunt:

Taunt Right: "Tonight, we dine in hell!"
Taunt Up: "If there arrows darken the sky, we will fight in the shade!"
Taunt Left: "FOR SPARTA!!!"
Taunt Dow: "AAAAARGH!!"

:)

[Someone Else]

SPARTAN-117 is Master Chief from Halo. =/

[gsninja]

You know what would be even better than putting Sonic in Brawl? Putting Isaac in Brawl. As long as that happens, I don't care about anything else. =D

[Ironsight]

You forgot:

AWOOH! AWOOH! AWOOH!

[Caael]

gsninja, on Sep 18 2007, 10:38 PM, said:

Ridley's too big to be in Brawl. *runs*

Anyways, I expected Brawl to be online, but this update was still great because it confirms 100% that Brawl is going to be online. And no, I'm probably not going to take part in a GSS Brawl Championship if it happens. =|

http://ssbm.detstar.com/screengallery/samus_ridley.jpg
HEEZ HUGE OMG

[Blue]

Ridley would be fun for Smash Bros. So now I want to not hear any more bickering about it, from both sides, else I will, in real life, lauch you out of a cannon.

[Golden Legacy]

Wind Dude, on Sep 19 2007, 01:04 AM, said:

SPARTAN-117 is Master Chief from Halo. =/

Go figure.

DarkSword, on Sep 19 2007, 01:05 AM, said:

You forgot:

AWOOH! AWOOH! AWOOH!

^ lol, even better.

Today's update is great! Single player mode is really something that has me so excited now...

[Folcon]

I can agree with the GL. I just wish they hadn't revealed how to beat some of the foes they showed. Let us figure out the weakspots.

[Caael]

Your choice to check the site. You should know by now that there will be spoilers.

[gsninja]

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/public/style_images/gssv3/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />Caael, on Sep 18 2007, 11:54 PM, said:

HEEZ HUGE OMG

You do know I was joking, right? XD

I agree with GL, single player mode has me really excited too.

[Toasty]

Man, now I want this game more than I ever wanted it before. IT'S MOTHER FREAKING AWESOME.

[Nosferatu]

This is more of an uplate then an update. Get it? Uplate? Cause we get to stay uplate for it? Ahahahahah no.

[Blue]

Failure. Well, the special moves was worth it. Its cool to see him have some nice toys.

[I'm Always BROKE]

So we get Snake before Ness and C.Falcon... :) Can't say that I don't like the update, cause character updates are always awesome but I'd rather have the other 2 characters before him.

[Caael]

Well at least we're getting hidden characters now. Ridley next.

[Blue]

Hidden? You don't think Nintendo would do something as show us hidden characters right? Oh no Caael, these are all characters you can use right off the bat.

[Caael]

Sakurai has already said that Snake was hidden.

[Blue]

Doesn't say anything about it now. I think if it was something like that it would be carried to his profile

[Folcon]

Here's my idea for a character for Brawl, Ryu/Ken, from Street Fighter.

Move sets are the same, but Ryu is a little stronger, while Ken is a little faster.

a- punch
left/right a- heavy punch
up a- upper cut
down a- low kick

Smash left/right- roundhouse kick
Smash up- that mid air spin kick whose name I can't remember
Smash down- I don't got one

B speacel move:

Standard B- Hadoken fireball - chargeable
left/right B- Longer range, but lower attack Hadoken fireball
up B- Sharyoken(sp?) - that high powered upper cut
down B- a counter guard, kinda like what Roy and Marth have, when hit durring move, counters with Hadoken.

What do you think?

[Blue]

Final Smash for Ryu: Becomes Evil Ryu and his attacks are more powerful and his specials change to more powerful versions.
Standard B - Shinkuu Hadouken - Giant beam of energy
left/right B - Multiple Hadouken - Fires tons of Hadoukens
Up B - Shin Shoryuken - (must be up close for full effect) Punches person once with left hand, then punches them with right, then jumps up and Shoryuken with massive damage
Down B - Raging Demon - If person hits Ryu, he grabs them and the imediate area goes dark and he wails on them.

[Caael]

Simon Belmont:

Normal

A- Whips forwards
AAA- Whips forwards and spins the whip arounds 3 times
^A- Overhead kick
vA- Spins the whip around his body
Smash A: Whips forwards with great power, leaving a trail of fire. If you hold down A, you can spin the whip like Sheik ( that's where they got her move from)
Smash up A: Spins the whip overhead leaving a trail of fire
Down smash: Slam kick that smacks the ground down

Aerial

All his aerials just whip in the direction you pressed

Special

B: Knife. Throws 2 knives straight forwards. Low damage, but fast and accurate. Basically fox laserx2
B^: Griffon Wing. Does a massive uppercut leaving flames behind him.
B>: Holy Water. Throws a pot in the ground and blue flames travel along the ground slowly forwards.
Bv: Bible. Simon throws a bible which circles the place he threw it at, expanding the radius.

Final Smash: Grand Cross. A golden cross stands behind him, and smaller golden crosses circle him in white light, which engulfs the screen, sending crosses everywhere.




I win at internetz

[Mallick]

escout, on Sep 21 2007, 12:22 PM, said:

Here's my idea for a character for Brawl, Ryu/Ken, from Street Fighter.

Move sets are the same, but Ryu is a little stronger, while Ken is a little faster.

a- punch
left/right a- heavy punch
up a- upper cut
down a- low kick

Smash left/right- roundhouse kick
Smash up- that mid air spin kick whose name I can't remember
Smash down- I don't got one

B speacel move:

Standard B- Hadoken fireball - chargeable
left/right B- Longer range, but lower attack Hadoken fireball
up B- Sharyoken(sp?) - that high powered upper cut
down B- a counter guard, kinda like what Roy and Marth have, when hit durring move, counters with Hadoken.

What do you think?

nope. © chuck norris

[Folcon]

dude, fudge Chuck Norris. He was never on a Nintendo consule, at lest that I know of.

[Caael]

Chuck Norris wasn't the sole inventor of the roundhouse kick you know so stfu.

[Folcon]

But he still has no place in Brawl. Ryu or Ken, now they desserve a place in the smash roster.

[Caael]

My top 5 picks for Brawl, in order:

Ridley
Simon
Isaac
Olimar
An FE girl

[Mallick]

Caael, on Sep 21 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

Chuck Norris wasn't the sole inventor of the roundhouse kick you know so stfu.

Roundhouse kick™ is © copyright Chuck Norris 1950

[Toasty]

Lol.

I don't like snake's Recovery move though. It sucks.

[Caael]

Snake looks pretty interesting. Hope his FS is Metal Gear Rex

[Toasty]

I'll bet you all of my money that it is. I mean, why wouldn't it be?

[Golden Legacy]

On a side note, if you go to the characters page, there are now twenty that have been revealed - and Melee only had 25 characters. If Sakurai's revealing this many months before the game releases, the final count must be huge. Any takes?

(Oh, and the music in this game is phenomenal - that MGS orchestrated theme has to be one of the best music compositions I've ever heard)

[Caael]

Sakurai says the smallest amount of characters will be 40, and the largest will be 50

[TheEnglishman]

Quite a lot of choice there. However there's always going to be characters who you won't want to play as.

[Toasty]

Like the Ice Climbers. :P
But even though there'll be people who I won't play as, there's bound to be a big handful of them that I will play as. I mean, there's going to be nearly twice as many characters in brawl as there were in melee, so there's bound to be a few that I'll want to play as.

[Someone Else]

I played Smash at a friend's birthday this weekend. Ohmigod it's fun.

Bye.

[Toasty]

Melee or N64? Or did he get a hold of a japanese copy of brawl through some illegal channel or something?

[Someone Else]

Melee. Maybe I'll get the N64 version on a ROM no matter how immoral someone might think it is.

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 23 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

On a side note, if you go to the characters page, there are now twenty that have been revealed - and Melee only had 25 characters. If Sakurai's revealing this many months before the game releases, the final count must be huge. Any takes?

(Oh, and the music in this game is phenomenal - that MGS orchestrated theme has to be one of the best music compositions I've ever heard)

I think the smallest amount of characters in Brawl will be around 37, most likely higher. Brawl is certainly going to lay out quite the selection of characters. Also, I agree that the MGS4 orchestrated theme is excellent.

I'm hoping that, because it's my birthday tomorrow, a Golden Sun related update will be in order tomorrow. =D

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Sep 23 2007, 05:23 PM, said:

Melee. Maybe I'll get the N64 version on a ROM no matter how immoral someone might think it is.

Go WD! High 5!

Anyway yeah. First one I played was Melee, then I played the N64 one later. Melee wins.

[Toasty]

OH SH- TINGLE'S IN ONE OF THE TROPHY ROOM BACKGROUNDS.

@Nos:I played the n64 version first and REALLY liked it, but I only played it a few times because I never actually owned it. Which sucked. But then I got a gamcube and melee, which didn't suck.

[Caael]

Played melee yesterday and my first reaction was ' Eurgh'

I haven't played it in over a year, so the controls just vanished from my head. Dont plan to start playing again, as i'm waiting for Brawl.

[Toasty]

I never seem to forget the controls on any game. Even the ones I rarely play. But it's nice to see that the trophies back.

[Caael]

Eugh, what a waste of update. They could have given Diddy his guitar from 64, so he and DK could jam together, but NO. They made it CRAP. Grr.

[gsninja]

Caael, I agree with you. Diddy Kong's Final Smash could have been a lot better. I mean, he already uses his Peanut Popgun and Rocketbarrels as special moves, a combination of the two moves for the Final Smash is hardly good enough.

[Toasty]

It's starting to feel like they rushed the game a bit. Even though they spent a LONG time on SSBB, they still could have used more time. I've yet to se more than one decently thought up stage (layout mostly), and some of these FS's are starting to look a little too....plain.

[Ironsight]

Yeah, i agree. They seem to be less imaginative now, as if they had hurried up.

[gsninja]

The two updates we've gotten so far this week have pretty much failed in my opinion. The Trophies...I already knew they were going to be in, so it was a really dumb update for me. Diddy's Final Smash is really bland and is similar to Yoshi's, making it even more unoriginal.

[Golden Legacy]

I'm just going to say this again, for the record; we should be grateful that we even have a daily updated blog about Brawl. That said, there are always going to be some great updates and some lesser ones. If Sakurai just gave us the updates we all want to know about, right away, then we'd have nothing to look forward to, and nothing to surprise us with, right? It's better to spread it out and build up the hype gradually, rather than give an all-out brawl of updates (get it, BRAWL? HAHAHA LOL ROFL LMAO ... :P).

[gsninja]

Golden Legacy, on Sep 25 2007, 08:24 PM, said:

I'm just going to say this again, for the record; we should be grateful that we even have a daily updated blog about Brawl. That said, there are always going to be some great updates and some lesser ones. If Sakurai just gave us the updates we all want to know about, right away, then we'd have nothing to look forward to, and nothing to surprise us with, right? It's better to spread it out and build up the hype gradually, rather than give an all-out brawl of updates (get it, BRAWL? HAHAHA LOL ROFL LMAO ... :P).

>.>;;

It's not like I'm not grateful for the fact that we're even getting updates in the first place. I really appreciate that fact. However, I just don't like Diddy's Final Smash.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I don't care much about Diddy's rather unimagintive Final Smash, cause I won't play serious matches with items at all. :P Sure I'm gonna try them all out in 1P and Training Mode, but Final Smash updates aren't as high in my books. I still hate Donkey Kong's though, the Bongo games are clearly the worst in the series... So it doesn't please me to have them represented.

Also, did you guys heard about this interview with the creator of Animal Crossing?? From what it looks like, it seems that we have the generic AC human character playable in Brawl using stuff from AC like the fishing rod and axe. Here is the interview:

"Katsuya Eguchi, director of the Animal Crossing games, has been interviewed in the latest issue of Famitsu. In it he discusses the upcoming Animal Crossing game on the Wii, although one of the questions ties into Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

FAMITSU: Have you been approached to contribute Animal Forest elements for the new Smash Bros. game?

KATSUYA EGUCHI: Yes, and there is quite a funny story to it. A few months after E3 2006, (Masahiro Sakurai) contacted me and asked if I'd like to develop possible Animal Forest ideas for Smash Bros. Originally, we settled on just a quick, simple Animal Forest item, but with the success of Wild World and the Animal Forest film, he asked if I'd be up for designing additional elements. [Laughs] Fast forward a few months and I had stage and character concepts created. Sakurai chose his favorite of the stage concepts, slightly tweaked it to his liking, and we together decided on the final Animal Forest character, which is a very fun character to play. With both the stage and character I utilized ideas from the games. For example, if you play the stage at night, the sky will be dark. If you play in the winter, expect to see snow, and leaves in the autumn time. And yes, trees will be decorated on Christmas! It's really something else. I worked very hard on this one little stage! [Laughs] The Animal Crossing character is very much like the one in the games. You know, he will use his axe, fishing rod, bug catching net, and everything else from the games."

Opinions?

[Caael]

Damn it all to hell. **** AC in Brawl, a stage, item and resetti is enough. I dont want some *** generic character.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm not desperate to play as the AC guy. He's pretty lifeless and comes from a game which got dull, quickly.

[Caael]

I'll just use him as the opponent in training, so I beat the crap out of him.

[Folcon]

But he is only an assist trophy.

[Caael]

The AC char, not Resetti.

[Nosferatu]

Quote

FAMITSU: Have you been approached to contribute Animal Forest elements for the new Smash Bros. game?

KATSUYA EGUCHI: Yes, and there is quite a funny story to it. A few months after E3 2006, (Masahiro Sakurai) contacted me and asked if I'd like to develop possible Animal Forest ideas for Smash Bros. Originally, we settled on just a quick, simple Animal Forest item, but with the success of Wild World and the Animal Forest film, he asked if I'd be up for designing additional elements. [Laughs] Fast forward a few months and I had stage and character concepts created. Sakurai chose his favorite of the stage concepts, slightly tweaked it to his liking, and we together decided on the final Animal Forest character, which is a very fun character to play. With both the stage and character I utilized ideas from the games. For example, if you play the stage at night, the sky will be dark. If you play in the winter, expect to see snow, and leaves in the autumn time. And yes, trees will be decorated on Christmas! It's really something else. I worked very hard on this one little stage! [Laughs] The Animal Crossing character is very much like the one in the games. You know, he will use his axe, fishing rod, bug catching net, and everything else from the games.

Well ain't that an interesting little tidbit.

[Caael]

Here's a thought: What if Captain Olimar was in the game? Pikmin 3 has been announced, and I reckon he'd be a pretty cool and original character if included. Thoughts?

[Blue]

Eh, I don't know. What does he do really besides control Pikmin?

[Caael]

But he could potentially have an awesome moveset.

Vali from Smashboards said:

The Actual Moveset

Finally, onto Olimar's actual moves. That's a lot of information to get down before you can even get onto this stuff, if Sakurai ever finds this moveset and thinks "Wow, that's such an excellent idea!" he'll put it in manual. I hope.

A moves

A - Right fisted punch - 2%, loooooooow knockback
AA - Left fisted punch - 2% loooooooooow knockback
AAA - Olimar's special Rocket Punch™®...maybe not...Olimar sticks out both his fists in a double fisted punch of glory - 4% med-low knockback
Dash A - Rush Boots, you slide at 1.5 times your running speed for a short distance, semi-bad wind-down lag though - 8% medium knockback
A -> tilt - Headbutt - 10%, medium knockback
A^ tilt - Rising headbutt - 9% medium knockback
Av - Pik-a-grab, grabs a Pikmin and sweeps out the opponents feet. Knockback, speed and damage vary on the Pikmin sweeping with, ranging from 6%->10%, low -> med-high knockback.

A -> Smash - Swing-a-pik, for every 3 pikmin, Olimar grabs a random pikmin by the flower (so cruel) and swings them forward. Damage is 10% + the damage of each pikmin, knockback and speed again depends on the type of Pikmin and the number. If no pikmin are near, Olimar hits for 10%.

A^ Smash - Soar-a-pik, for every 5 pikmin, Olimar grabs a random pikmin by the flower and swings them in an arc upwards. 10% + pikmin damage, speed and knockback variable. If no pikmin are near, Olimar hits for 10%.

Av Smash - Kik-a-pik, All the pikmin around him kick (both sides, so it wouldn't be 15 pikmin on 1 side kicking) for their base damage with good knockback, if no pikmin are currently following Olimar, he does a 360 floor sweep for 8% with low-med knockback.

Nair - Spins around - 2% each hit with low knockback, last one has medium knockback
Bair - Donkey kick - 5% good knockback
Uair - Somersault kick (he's had zero g training after all) - 6% medium knockback
Dair - Mid-air headbutt (kinda like a reverse of his Uair and instead of kicking them, thwacks them with his helmet) - 5%, meteor
Fair - Your standard kick - 5% medium knockback

B moves

These are probably going to be a bit more indepth.

B - Ye olde "Whistle" - Olimar uses this to command his little buddies. Tapping B will make a short shrill whistle noise which is the go ahead for the pikmin to change the order in which they are standing, meaning you can select which pikmin are closest to you at any given time by taps of B. The default formation is Purple -> White -> Red -> Blue -> Yellow and will change as such so the front goes to the back (ie. W->R->B->Y->P is the next formation). Formations are there to give you greater control over which Pikmin you are throwing and with practice will become second nature, even in the heat of a battle, and like everything would just take practice getting used to managing them.

Holding down B will make all pikmin in 4 body-lengths of Olimar will attempt to make their way back to his side. While holding down B (so after 1/2 -> 3/4 of a second), Olimar is forced to continue to whistle for the remainder of 2 seconds and is unable to move or attack during this time.

B -> - Hurl-a-Pik - Throws a pikmin, how hard depends on how far you tilt the control stick. They follow a set trajectory of the classic arc, and will also go different distances depending on their weight. Holding the control stick full tilt and throwing a purple pikmin will yield roughly the same result as throwing a yellow pikmin at under half tilt.

B^ - Dolphin Rocket - Olimar's rocket is also his recovery move! Upon using this move Olimar is instant in his rocket which moves on a shaky trajectory diagonally upwards. You can also control this a little, such as veer it in a direction. Any surrounding pikmin which are falling relatively near to Olimar are taken up in the Onions around the S.S. Dolphin. Upon moving for 1.5 seconds or so, the dolphin explodes out of habit sending 3 randomly generated parts upwards, diagonally down to the right and diagonally down to the left. These parts are parts which you collect from Olimar's ship in Pikmin 1 and all do 5% damage except the secret safe which does 8% and the Massage Machine and the Space Float (with lower chances of appear) which do a healthy 10%.

Bv - Pick-a-Pik - Probably the most complicated one of all that will take some time to explain. Pick-a-Pik works as sectioned areas of each stage where each section has a 60% common chance and 40% uncommon chance of plucking 2 different kinds of Pikmin. Battlefield for example might be split into 5 different sections, the 3 different platforms and the main floor split in half. On these sections 2 types of Pikmin can be plucked (skilled Olimar's will know which Pikmin to get where on each stage) in those 2 percentages but the rarer Pikmin (white and purple) can only ever occur as 40% uncommon chances, so a purple/white or white/purple combination won't happen, but a red/blue could.

To actually pick the Pikmin, Olimar must hold down and press B at which point it will take 2 seconds to pick a Leaf Pikmin form that area. Subsequent presses of B (while still holding down) will yield Pikmin at 1 second delays. The first 2 Pikmin to be picked will be Leaf Pikmin, the next 3 will be Bud Pikmin and all subsequent Pikmin will be Flower Pikmin, up to the maximum of 15 Pikmin. If you start picking with 0 Pikmin, it's possible to pick up to 10 Flower Pikmin.

Grab moves

A (while holding) - Sly dig - 3%
Forward - Bum's rush, 1-3 Pikmin by Olimar grab the opponent and do the Bum's rush on him : (6-9% high knockback), no Pikmin and Olimar weakly attempts it himself resulting in 3% damage and low knockback

Back - Pik-a-Swing, 1-3 Pikmin grab the opponent's feet and swing him backwards for 5-8% damage and med-high knockback, if no Pikmin, Olimar attempts to do it by himself for 3% damage and low-med knockback.

Down - Pik-a-pounce, Olimar throws the opponent to the floor, 1-6 Pikmin + Olimar jump on one end of the floored opponent for half their totaled base damage + 3% and med-high knockback depending on Pikmin weights. If no Pikmin, Olimar once again foolishly attempts it by himself and doesn't get very far, 3% damage and very low knockback.

Up - Pik-a-Punch, Olimar releases the opponent and uppercuts them at the same time as 1-5 Pikmin. Damage and knockback depends on Pikmin's strength. If no Pikmin, Olimar does it by himself for 3% damage and low knockback.

Final Smash Move

Pikmin Bomb Squad!

The S.S. Dolphin flies in from the top left of the screen over the battlefield and exits again to the top right, pausing only to fire the Nova Blaster down on Olimer's position. Any enemies caught in the dazzling beam are stunned as if their shield was broken. Any yellow pikmin bathed in the light acquire bomb rocks with a minimum of 3. If 3 yellow pikmin aren't present, 3 random pikmin caught in the light will be transformed into yellow bomb pikmin and if 3 pikmin aren't present (if any), then any pikmin caught in the light will be transformed and up to 3 bomb pikmin appear to a maximum of 3 in total. However, if 15 pikmin of that Olimer are present on the battlefield but none caught in the beam, the bomb pikmin will not appear.

Yellow bomb pikmin are able to be thrown as far as regular yellow pikmin and if they land on an opponent after being thrown will automatically explode for 15% damage and high knockback and the pikmin will automatically be star-ko'd. A yellow bomb pikmin will give chase to any opponents they land near like regular pikmin, but instead will self-detonate (star-ko'ing itself) and do 10% damage and med-high knockback. If the opponent attempts to evade the pikmin and succeeds (so the pikmin cannot follow), he will attempt to throw the bomb rock at the opponent with a good degree of precision for 7% damage and med knockback but unfortunately not a star-ko .

Taunt

All the pikmin by Olimar's side line up facing the screen and do the leaf-mexican-wave from the good ending of Pikmin 1, speed varies on how many pikmin are in the line as to always be the same amount of time for the taunt. If no pikmin are by Olimar's side, he looks left, then right (as if looking for the pikmin) and then bows his head (in realisation that he's all alone *tear*).

Kirby Hat

Kirby dons the entire spacesuit with a small (non-spherical) helmet over the top third of his head. Kirby's B move now plucks and throws pikmin. Holding B will pluck the pikmin from the ground at the same rate as Olimar does but Kirby is not adept at throwing the pikmin. Upon tapping B Kirby throws the pikmin horizontally for less distance than Olimar as they spin through the air. Like Olimar's pikmin they well give chase and attack nearby opponents but due to their spinning in the air will bounce off of any enemies they are thrown at for their base damage rather than landing on them.

It's not exactly orthodox, but nothing about an Olimar moveset really could be and the way the controls are set up at the moment (B for whistle, side B to throw pikmin, down B to pluck) at least make sense and such things as the whistle will feel natural for Pikmin players. Thus making one which would also make sense for Kirby's B would be practically impossible.

I think that about wraps it up for the my Olimar moveset. Thanks for taking the time to read it.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=b_slmbAtWe0

^ Awesome Pikmin advert, well worth checking out.

If anyone is unfamiliar with Pikmin and the gameplay behind it, check out this music video of Pikmin clips from Pikmin 2. While it's not exactly a tutorial video or anything you might be able to at least pick up some gameplay mechanics and how **** awesome Pikmin is.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DRmY9EYmj9U

[Envy]

I can't wait for this game...

I really hope Isaac is a playable character. I don't really care who else makes it in. No joke!

[Toasty]

So why are you so innactive? Joined in July and you've only got one post?

[Envy]

Mr. T, check my introduction topic for an explanation...

So tonight's update was crazy. Lucas is confirmed.

I really hope that doesn't mean that Ness was actually replaced.

[Mallick]

So toasty, why do you spam so much? join april 06 and have higher post count than me

[Nosferatu]

And a million voices just screamed yay.

[Caael]

a billion will scream Yay when it's Ridley there.

[Golden Legacy]

Envy, on Oct 1 2007, 03:24 AM, said:

Mr. T, check my introduction topic for an explanation...

So tonight's update was crazy. Lucas is confirmed.

I really hope that doesn't mean that Ness was actually replaced.

It probably does though. Just Sakurai's comment ("Is it possible he can surpass even Ness?!") suggests that Lucas is stepping up in his place. Not to mention also that Earthbound isn't a big enough series to have two characters (and from the screenshots, it looks as though they'll play similarly enough).

Still, fantastic update, and what a way to start off the week (and last week's relatively lackluster updates).

[Toasty]

Piers, on Oct 1 2007, 12:28 AM, said:

So toasty, why do you spam so much? join april 06 and have higher post count than me

If you look through my posts in my profile, you'll find that the vast majority of my spammy posts are made in the common room. Very, very few of the posts that actually count are spam.

Anyway.....

I'd prefer to have Ness come back rather than have a new guy replace him, but I guess they felt it was time for a change. The new guy is from the newest Earthbound game though, so I guess it makes sense.

[Mallick]

let me try to find one... oh wait,

Mr.T, on Sep 30 2007, 03:42 PM, said:

So why are you so innactive? Joined in July and you've only got one post?

[gsninja]

Envy, on Sep 30 2007, 03:23 PM, said:

I can't wait for this game...

I really hope Isaac is a playable character. I don't really care who else makes it in. No joke!

*high five*

Anyways, the Snake/MGS videos were pretty cool, especially the first one with snake battling Mario.

[Caael]

Bubble sheilds are back then.

[Toasty]

Piers, on Oct 1 2007, 11:55 PM, said:

let me try to find one... oh wait,

I said "few," not "none." And don't be a hippocrit, that was spam too.

I hate Snake's voice. When it goes deep it's all crackley and stuff.

I'm curious to see if there'll be any other "hidden" parts to the MGS stage like there are in the FE stage.

[gsninja]

Snake's Japanese voice actor sounds better. >.>

Anyways, this update made me laugh. I think I'm going to have fun with this Assist Trophy when SSBB comes out.

[Sea of Time]

Well the Snake video was cool I guess. I haven't been blown away by anything about this game yet, and I've been blown away by games on other consoles.

[Toasty]

Fox's FS is good enough for me, but it seems like it should've been something besides the Landmaster tank.

[Ironsight]

I thought Fox's FS was the reflector. If my dad's computor didnt suck so much, I would go and double check

[Caael]

I'm losing interest in the game now. Used to be the only game I ever wanted, I would give up food for it, but now i'm just...meh. It's still cool, but i've moved on. Yes, this does mean I wont rant at you about Ridley anymore. Rejoice.