[Someone Else]

Not as often as I'd like. =( Sometimes I play with my sister but she's new to it, so we usually play teams against level 4 CPU.

[Mallick]

I get ganged on 24/7 against human players unless I'm Ike (and they still don't realize how many kills I rack up)

when I play anyone else (especially marth/cfalcon) in order to not get grouped up on against 3 other guys, I have to edge hog and gay people with my B up for the entire match.

[Zeypher]

I would play it more if Nintendo would fix the damn random match servers. The Friend servers work fine, but my friends aren't on when I'm on hardly :P

[Folcon]

except for spectator, my with anyone matchs never work. Don't know why.

[Toasty]

I can usually get one, but half the time that I do, it either lags craploads, or something goes wrong and I suddenly lose my connection.

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Apr 28 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

I'd also play more if the CPU opponents in free-for-alls weren't annoying in the way they gang up on you and follow you around. Real human players don't gang up on you. Well, unless they hate you.

QFT.

You could end up almost calling it Team Brawl with Friendly Attack on.

[Zeypher]

I played Brawl for 5 minutes today!
...
Those 5 minutes consisted of me staring at the menu screen...

I really need something to get me back into this game u.u

[Linear]

Zeypher, on May 3 2008, 09:03 PM, said:

I played Brawl for 5 minutes today!
...
Those 5 minutes consisted of me staring at the menu screen...

I really need something to get me back into this game u.u

c: Get someone to fight with and get pwned many times that you have to get revenge?

[Golden Legacy]

*twitching in the corner, head sulking*
Two more weeks until I play Brawl... two more weeks until I play Brawl...

(and 4 final exams in between, but never mind that)

[gsninja]

Aw, poor GL. ^.^ Don't worry, it's only two weeks.

*remembers how tortuous the two weeks before Brawl's release were*

Ok, so it isn't only, but you'll get it soon.

[Gio]

The two weeks before brawl came out sucked for me to. lol

Also I have been playing the game at least once everyday for past few weeks. I am getting real good.

[Someone Else]

Actually, pretty much right after I said I hadn't been playing much lately I started to play Brawl again. XP

Continuing that trend, I'm probably going to play less now that I've admitted that.

[Linear]

>3> I'm always around if any of you guys would like to kick my butt. *Hint*hint*

[Golden Legacy]

She means we're going to have our butts handed to us. Eh Lin?

[gsninja]

Considering that something's wrong with my online connection and I have button lag for about the first minute of the match, I can't do well unless I change channels or...pray for a better connection eventually. :\

[Mallick]

My lag goes through-out the match. And it's not your average button lag, it's crazy button lag.

[Linear]

Golden Legacy, on May 4 2008, 11:59 AM, said:

She means we're going to have our butts handed to us. Eh Lin?

xD Awww...don't think that way~! I'm not that good. >.>

gsninja, on May 4 2008, 12:39 PM, said:

Considering that something's wrong with my online connection and I have button lag for about the first minute of the match, I can't do well unless I change channels or...pray for a better connection eventually. :\

: > You eventually get used to the Command Lag. Let's play sometime! Get out of your freakin' Spectating!!!

[gsninja]

Linear, on May 4 2008, 01:29 PM, said:

xD Awww...don't think that way~! I'm not that good. >.>
: > You eventually get used to the Command Lag. Let's play sometime! Get out of your freakin' Spectating!!!

I can't get used to lag, I really can't. D: My timing and focus get completely thrown off, which is especially dire when you're using someone like Ike. If I can get rid of that button lag, then we can play. :blink: I've been fighting several matches with button lag already and they don't turn out too well.

[Linear]

gsninja, on May 4 2008, 01:48 PM, said:

I can't get used to lag, I really can't. D: My timing and focus get completely thrown off, which is especially dire when you're using someone like Ike. If I can get rid of that button lag, then we can play. :blink: I've been fighting several matches with button lag already and they don't turn out too well.

>.> There will always be lag...especially Command Lag. PPLLAAYYY. ;-;

[gsninja]

Linear, on May 4 2008, 06:19 PM, said:

>.> There will always be lag...especially Command Lag. PPLLAAYYY. ;-;

But there isn't always lag. D: This just started happening yesterday; before, I had no lag whatsoever.

[Someone Else]

You guys actually spectate for fun?

[gsninja]

Wind Dude, on May 4 2008, 07:43 PM, said:

You guys actually spectate for fun?

I spectate when I'm either:

1. Away from the TV while doing something else.

2. Eating and need something to do at the same time.

It's the former 90% of the time.

[Zeypher]

Anonymous, on May 4 2008, 01:45 PM, said:

My lag goes through-out the match. And it's not your average button lag, it's crazy button lag.

U need betr internets.

Is anyone actually trying to get all the challenges?

[Nosferatu]

Zeypher, on May 4 2008, 08:09 PM, said:

Is anyone actually trying to get all the challenges?

I've got all of them done but the boss battle challenges.

[Someone Else]

I beat Event Match 41 last night. Man it was tough, and I was playing on Normal.

Spoiler

I was a little ticked that all I got at the end was a lame "you beat all Event Matches!!!" message. Do I need to beat it on Hard to get anything special?

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on May 4 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

I beat Event Match 41 last night. Man it was tough, and I was playing on Normal.

Spoiler

I was a little ticked that all I got at the end was a lame "you beat all Event Matches!!!" message. Do I need to beat it on Hard to get anything special?

Spoiler

*sigh* Probably not. That would be too nice of Sakurai.

[Mallick]

Zeypher, on May 4 2008, 08:09 PM, said:

U need betr internets.

Is anyone actually trying to get all the challenges?

My connection is flawless.

[gsninja]

Wind Dude, on May 4 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

I beat Event Match 41 last night. Man it was tough, and I was playing on Normal.

Spoiler

I was a little ticked that all I got at the end was a lame "you beat all Event Matches!!!" message. Do I need to beat it on Hard to get anything special?

Sorry, you won't. :\

I beat Boss Battles Intense with six characters now. Also, I'm not bothering completing all the challenges anymore, since I'm too lazy for that.

[Zeypher]

Anonymous, on May 4 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

My connection is flawless.

I blame Bush.

Quote

You guys actually spectate for fun?

I spectate to try and get money, but I always pick the losers.

[Gio]

Who needs money. I have 9999 coins.

[Someone Else]

Eyyy! I have 9999 coins too.

What are they for anyway, besides the Slot Machine?

[Gio]

That and continues.

[Someone Else]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I don't play Classic Mode, All-Star, or other modes that use Continues much.

[Gio]

Yeah I don't really play there much either. I pretty much just stick to playing with my friends. I have gotten a lot better at the game by playing with friends.

[gsninja]

Meh, I don't really consider myself improving unless I'm fighting people on the Internet. There are much higher chances of your real life friends not being as good as the people over the Internet. For me, at least, that holds true.

[Gio]

A lot of my friends are good and they get better by fighting me. which makes me get better when I fight them. they are just as good as I am, I just play the game a bit smarter than all of them.

[Split Infinity]

And it's also hard to get better at any game when there's lag involved.

[Caael]

Have you guys ever got a proper 'smash pro' as an opponent? If you did and won, i hope you rubbed it in their face more than is probably healthy.

[gsninja]

Caael, on May 6 2008, 07:23 AM, said:

Have you guys ever got a proper 'smash pro' as an opponent? If you did and won, i hope you rubbed it in their face more than is probably healthy.

Er, why would I do that? o.o

Yeah, lag sucks. I usually just cancel the match if it gets laggy because I simply can't fight.

[Linear]

Smash pros is such a funny term. They just call out for you to get beat them up (if you could, as quoted by them).

[Nosferatu]

**** I love those people. They think high tier characters always win.
No. They can lose. And if you think they can't, you lose.

****ing retards.

[gsninja]

Thee are no pros at Brawl yet. Those who call themselves pros at it are most likely average at best. :)

[Laharl]

people like you then? XP

[gsninja]

I never called myself pro, and I doubt I ever will, either. :x

[Laharl]

i know but when you said

gsninja, on May 6 2008, 05:26 AM, said:

Meh, I don't really consider myself improving unless I'm fighting people on the Internet. There are much higher chances of your real life friends not being as good as the people over the Internet. For me, at least, that holds true.

if you have seen Yahtzee's review of this, you totally sound like "that guy" XD

[gsninja]

Never seen it. o.o

Anyways, I didn't mean that your friends always suck. I meant that, more likely than not, the people over the Internet are better than your friends because that's just the way it works most of the time. :\

[Laharl]

original review is here

Laharl, on Apr 23 2008, 11:42 PM, said:

somebody who matters gives their opinion

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/v...mash-Bros-Brawl

i'd just like to say

i ****ing called it

"**** Solid Snake, they should let you unlock Bill Murray" XDDDDDD

and this week he responds to all the hatemail he got for that review XD

fanboy lulz

all of you here, with the possible exception of Zephyrlink, manage to avoid sinking to that level

[Mallick]

I can't believe my angry letter made it into his episode...

[Gio]

Laharl, on May 7 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

original review is here
and this week he responds to all the hatemail he got for that review XD

fanboy lulz

all of you here, with the possible exception of Zephylink, manage to avoid sinking to that level

I thought that was hilarious.

[Golden Legacy]

Laharl, on May 7 2008, 05:40 PM, said:

original review is here
and this week he responds to all the hatemail he got for that review XD

fanboy lulz

all of you here, with the possible exception of Zephylink, manage to avoid sinking to that level

I'll admit, the guy's pretty witty and his responses to the letters he received were gold, no doubt. Still, I don't see why you hold him in higher regard than other reviewers - he's a critic himself, a unique take on games and interesting reviews, but still a critic.

[gsninja]

Both his review and hatemail responses were pretty funny. XD He's pretty wrong on most points he brought up, but he was still entertaining.

[Someone Else]

You should elaborate instead of just saying "he's wrong".

[Laharl]

Golden Legacy, on May 7 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

I don't see why you hold him in higher regard than other reviewers - he's a critic himself, a unique take on games and interesting reviews, but still a critic.

you probably never will then :/

i've explained it enough times :/

he tells it as it is, no arse kissing and he's not afraid to point a game's flaws. If disliking reviews for being bias fapfests makes me stupid, ship me off to Retard Island

[Zeypher]

Quote

all of you here, with the possible exception of Zephyrlink, manage to avoid sinking to that level

What the ****?

[Laharl]

Zeypher, on May 8 2008, 12:11 AM, said:

What the ****?

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...p?showuser=4757

http://citizengame.ca/wp-content/images/fanboy.jpg

[Mallick]

I'm on the middle of the fence here. His reviews tell it like it is, most (if not all) of his points are correct, but he does seem to exaggerate a bit.

[gsninja]

Meh, it's the exaggeration that makes him somewhat wrong. He actually does get the right idea, but then he rather...blows them out of proportion for most part. :\

[Zeypher]

Laharl, on May 7 2008, 05:22 PM, said:

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...p?showuser=4757

http://citizengame.ca/wp-content/images/fanboy.jpg

Because I like Nintendo?

[Mallick]

Zeypher, on May 7 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

Because I would like to have sex with Nintendo?

I didn't know it was possible..

[Nosferatu]

I don't care if I'm not a mod, but I'm nowhere near the mood to give a flying ****.
This is the Super Smash Bros. topic. Not the talk about a critic and make fun of Zeypher topic.

If you want to flame Zeypher, PDM can make a topic for it.

[Golden Legacy]

Laharl, on May 7 2008, 07:00 PM, said:

you probably never will then :/

i've explained it enough times :/

he tells it as it is, no arse kissing and he's not afraid to point a game's flaws. If disliking reviews for being bias fapfests makes me stupid, ship me off to Retard Island

It seems more like he and you share the same "harshly criticize when games don't meet your ungodly high expectations". Just because you can point out a game's flaws, doesn't mean that you should focus on them and basically sum up the game's worth to those flaws, and disregard everything else about it.

Anonymous, on May 7 2008, 07:42 PM, said:

I'm on the middle of the fence here. His reviews tell it like it is, most (if not all) of his points are correct, but he does seem to exaggerate a bit.

gsninja, on May 7 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

Meh, it's the exaggeration that makes him somewhat wrong. He actually does get the right idea, but then he rather...blows them out of proportion for most part. :\

That too, of course.

But yes, as Nosferatu said, enough about that, back to Brawl.

[Gio]

So when is the tournament thing going to happen GL?

[Golden Legacy]

Presumably, I was planning on having it in July, after the European release of the game (which comes out there on June 28th). I was thinking about having it coincide with E3 too, just to add a bit more hype and interest in it.

However, that's really far out into the future, and that's not even including the to-be-announced Australian release. I'm honestly considering just having the first tournament sometime in late May/June - just a "practice" one at least, to generate some more interest and see how it would work out, for the NA gamers.

That way, when more people are available to compete once the European/Australian releases have occurred, it would run smoother and have some experience behind it.

[Zeypher]

You can count me in.

[Mallick]

*sigh* reading this poats makes me feel bad four nawt siding with laharl

[gsninja]

Woohoo, I won the first round of the Brawl Central Tourney, 2-0. ^.^ I love fighting in tournaments; it really makes Brawl more fun.

[Laharl]

Zeypher, on May 8 2008, 01:29 AM, said:

Because I like Nintendo?

i think worship is the verb you're looking for.

roughly around 7 weeks til PAL release which i wont be bothering with, i'm not getting a wii for 3 games at the most. especially when they've nerfed my main. They nerfed Talim is Soul Calibur III, something that made me ooze liquid hatred and i dont particularly want to relive the experience

Golden Legacy, on May 8 2008, 03:45 AM, said:

It seems more like he and you share the same "harshly criticize when games don't meet your ungodly high expectations". Just because you can point out a game's flaws, doesn't mean that you should focus on them and basically sum up the game's worth to those flaws, and disregard everything else about it.
That too, of course.

NEWS FLASH GL, CRITICS CRITICIZE THINGS

for the umpteenth time, my approach to gaming is a balance, i'd rather have the games flaws pointed out to me and see if i'd be willing to perservere over some twat try to tell me about the game when it's penis is still in his mouth.

[Golden Legacy]

Laharl, on May 8 2008, 04:13 AM, said:

roughly around 7 weeks til PAL release which i wont be bothering with, i'm not getting a wii for 3 games at the most. especially when they've nerfed my main. They nerfed Talim is Soul Calibur III, something that made me ooze liquid hatred and i dont particularly want to relive the experience

Who was your former main, curious?

Quote

NEWS FLASH GL, CRITICS CRITICIZE THINGS

for the umpteenth time, my approach to gaming is a balance, i'd rather have the games flaws pointed out to me and see if i'd be willing to perservere over some twat try to tell me about the game when it's penis is still in his mouth.

I've noticed that from you, though this is the first time I've actually heard you say it that way. Disregarding the language you used (must you always be so harsh?), I'm just simply stating that you seem to linger on the flaws too much. Obviously, it's important to know about them, but summing up the game's worth and value to just the flaws seems to undermine all the other hard effort and work put into the game by the development team. You, especially, should at least see that, seeing as you have an appreciation for games that I've rarely seen in people.

[Laharl]

Golden Legacy, on May 8 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

Who was your former main, curious?

Link

Golden Legacy, on May 8 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

I've noticed that from you, though this is the first time I've actually heard you say it that way. Disregarding the language you used (must you always be so harsh?), I'm just simply stating that you seem to linger on the flaws too much. Obviously, it's important to know about them, but summing up the game's worth and value to just the flaws seems to undermine all the other hard effort and work put into the game by the development team. You, especially, should at least see that, seeing as you have an appreciation for games that I've rarely seen in people.

depends on the what's flawed, it's fundamentals like Combat and Camera then i'll be a lot less likely to invest in a particular title. I am very aware of genius games that have many flaws (see Killer 7), but seeing as most titles released these days are either direct sequels, remakes or amalgamations of 2 or 3 other games, i'm well within reason to dismiss them. Notice how most of the games i dislikes are fapfests to the average gamer?

[Toasty]

SO ANYWAY SSB. AWESOME SERIES, RIGHT?

Mom still hasn't given the Wii back because she's procrastinating. D:

Anyway, like I've said before, Melee's battle mechanics seem more refined and smooth when compared to Brawl's. When I attack in brawl, it feels like the character is wearing baggy pants of something, for lack of a better metaphor.

And your thoughts are?

[Caael]

Laharl, on May 7 2008, 10:40 PM, said:

original review is here



and this week he responds to all the hatemail he got for that review XD

fanboy lulz

all of you here, with the possible exception of Zephyrlink, manage to avoid sinking to that level

I loved the analogy at the end.

'' The 360 is the good all-rounder that occasionally pisses itself and dies''.

[Golden Legacy]

Australian release at last decided!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6190914.html?...orenews;title;1

So Europe and Australia will be getting Brawl June 26th/27th.

[gsninja]

Well, at least it's only another month. By the way, GL, when're you getting Brawl? In a week at most, I hope? XD

[Ironsight]

Well, if we ever get our wireless internet here fixed and if Wesley changes his mind about getting Brawl, then I might be able to play online some day.

[Golden Legacy]

gsninja, on May 14 2008, 08:22 PM, said:

Well, at least it's only another month. By the way, GL, when're you getting Brawl? In a week at most, I hope? XD

Well, I came back home yesterday with my first year of college over. My younger brother and I have made a pact that we'll play Brawl together for the first time, and that means when he leaves school - which means another week, exactly from today.

Don't worry, I'll be online and get creamed soon enough. :(

[Linear]

Golden Legacy, on May 14 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Well, I came back home yesterday with my first year of college over. My younger brother and I have made a pact that we'll play Brawl together for the first time, and that means when he leaves school - which means another week, exactly from today.

Don't worry, I'll be online and get creamed soon enough. :P

>w> I'm waiting for you... afufufufufufufufufufufuuu...

:3 The sad times of Brawl is when someone insults me... ;.;

[Golden Legacy]

Linear, on May 17 2008, 09:02 PM, said:

>w> I'm waiting for you... afufufufufufufufufufufuuu...

Aww, thanks Lin. :P I'm looking forward to it too!
And no worries, I'm perfectly calm and not anxious at all.


...
*runs to corner, crawls in fetal position, and starts sobbing*

[Toasty]

Don't worry *pat's GL's head* I'd be more than happy to pound you into dust and then get killed by lag! :P

Seriously though. I can't stress how many times lag has killed me. D:

Mom STILL hasn't given back the Wii. I've even searched for it, but I can't find it. I'll bet a lot of money that she forgot where she hid it by now too. D:

[Mallick]

Golden Legacy, on May 17 2008, 09:15 PM, said:

Aww, thanks Lin. :P I'm looking forward to it too!
And no worries, I'm perfectly calm and not anxious at all.


...
*runs to corner, crawls in fetal position, and starts sobbing*

I better be your first online match. I swore to myself I'd take your virginity in one way or another, if you wish to save an ***-reaving in IRL you'll let me take your SSBB online virginity. XP

[Split Infinity]

Sorry, TRT beat you to it.

[Mallick]

He played online against TRT in Brawl?

[Split Infinity]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 29 2007, 02:29 PM, said:

... I feel like I'm slowly losing my moderating virginity.

Golden Legacy, on Jan 29 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

Slowly and slowly...

Golden Legacy, on Jan 29 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

Post by post...

Golden Legacy, on Jan 29 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

Word by word...

[Caael]

Got it today, haven't played it yet because I cba but my little brother went psycho about it and is playing it to death.

[Lemontime]

Quite a good game, I haven't been playing it heaps, (Just got new DS games.. And playing CS..) but so far it's good fun.
I like the adventure mode a lot.. Side-scrolling awesome-win!

[Zeypher]

That will change once you get to the Great Maze.

[Legolastom]

Caael get back on Wrath of Ridley I mean if you have your 360 on and your Wii at the same time then we can chat and play Brawl.

Just gotta go out and get it.

[Someone Else]

Adventure mode sucked. Bad.

[Golden Legacy]

Favorite part of Subspace Emissary were the cut-scenes.
And WD, it definitely is much much better than the lame offering of Melee's.

[Someone Else]

Eh, I still don't get Nintendo's obsession of games with no voice-acting. At least Metroid has it.

[Zeypher]

Certain characters don't need voice overs (like Link).

[Blue]

Ok, so I'm getting out of class around 6:20 Arizona time, anyone up for a game?

[Legolastom]

Zeypher, on Jun 28 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

Certain characters don't need voice overs (like Link).

No but why cant everyone else in the game have it? I mean lots of games with voice acting can have silent protagonists. I mean voice acting just improves a game, this isnt anime.

[Golden Legacy]

Blue, on Jun 28 2008, 05:12 PM, said:

Ok, so I'm getting out of class around 6:20 Arizona time, anyone up for a game?

That's 8:20 NY time, so sure.

And I second WD and Lego on voice acting, but not for Smash Bros. Voice acting would add greater depth to characters and makes them more accessible (see Tales of Symphonia), but for a game like Smash, I think it works better without it since it's meant to have that sort of "charm" for you to imagine.

[Zeypher]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think the idea they were going with Brawl was that the trophies didn't have much personality and their only purpose is to fight...since there weren't even any text dialogues.

[Blue]

Golden Legacy, on Jun 28 2008, 03:41 PM, said:

That's 8:20 NY time, so sure.

And I second WD and Lego on voice acting, but not for Smash Bros. Voice acting would add greater depth to characters and makes them more accessible (see Tales of Symphonia), but for a game like Smash, I think it works better without it since it's meant to have that sort of "charm" for you to imagine.

Alright, I just hope I can play in the living room, my sister loves to hog the tv, for no reasons some times.

[Someone Else]

I'm so bored of this game. What do I do?

[Zeypher]

Delete your save file and play through the whole game again.

Or try and get all the challenges.

[Blue]

Or play online, you silly git.

[Someone Else]

Zeypher, on Jun 28 2008, 04:09 PM, said:

Delete your save file and play through the whole game again.

Does that really sound like a good idea?

Challenges are boring too, all I get is a lame trophy at this point.

[Zeypher]

Wind Dude, on Jun 28 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

Does that really sound like a good idea?

No >.>

Quote

Or play online, you silly git.

Do that.

[Drizzy Drake]

5 word ****ing limit dumbass

[Legolastom]

@WindDude: Play Melee.

[Drizzy Drake]

I'm thinking of selling my Wii. I have like 5 games, and I only play like 2 of them, since the rest are beaten, and I only play them like once a week.

[Blue]

Have I played you at Smash yet Dip?

[Drizzy Drake]

Nope. I haven't played Brawl in over a week, and haven't gone online with my Wii in over a month.

[Blue]

Well, we should play, I'm basicly the same thing.

[Drizzy Drake]

But...but...but, I don't wanna go and get my Wii. It's all the ways upstairs, and I'm downstairs.

[Blue]

I'm at school so shut the hell up and get ready for the beatings. D:<

[Someone Else]

Yeah I guess I'll join in on the fun if I can go on, that is.

[Drizzy Drake]

Blue, on Jun 28 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

I'm at school so shut the hell up and get ready for the beatings. D:<

.....no. SOme other time.

[Blue]

Screw you Dip!
*nut buster*
Alright, so, who's playing tonight?
Not sure if I want to eat food first or not though...

[Drizzy Drake]

HA, you missed. Wait, that would mean I have small ba--yeah, you hit. OWEEEE!!! See, see that. Yeah.

[Blue]

Lol, Dipset fails, miserably. xD

[Lemontime]

I'm very over my Wii, but my parents are reluctant to let me sell it, so I just keep battling on, playing it as much as my attention span allows me..

Smash bros is good though, nice party game... As well as MK, everyone loves MK..

[Blue]

Alright, I'm just going to eat some Lean Pockets then I'll be ready to go.
GL, whats your FC?

[Nosferatu]

Lemontime, on Jun 28 2008, 06:04 PM, said:

As well as MK, everyone loves MK..

I am a living contradiction to that statement. Mortal Kombat is too bland for me.

[Caael]

It's pretty fun actually, things get pretty hectic when you have 4 people playing at once. The only major concerns I have is the unbalanced-ness of some characters, for example Pit and Metaknight are so incredibly broken they make the game not fun at all. Pit is fast, has an amazing recovery, fast attacks, strong attacks; everything essential for a good character. He is so broken in fact, that even my mate who's never played smash before beat me and another mate who have been playing since the N64 with Pit, because it was so easy for him to kill us.

I wouldn't see myself poring through it in single player, but it is quite a fun game.

[Lemontime]

Nosferatu, on Jun 29 2008, 02:45 PM, said:

I am a living contradiction to that statement. Mortal Kombat is too bland for me.

Mario Kart.

[Legolastom]

MK is in a very unstable state at the moment, the epic fail of characters like Baby Daisy and the pure win of characters like funky kong being contained in one game are causing black holes to apear around the universe.

And Caael whats joor FC? The lag against people on WoR is ridiculous.

Also, almost completed single player... its not to bad actually.

But seriously they changed the gameplay enough to make it annoying and not as fun as Melee, but somehow they managed to make it feel repetative.

[Drizzy Drake]

Never mind.

[Caael]

Legolastom, on Jun 29 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

MK is in a very unstable state at the moment, the epic fail of characters like Baby Daisy and the pure win of characters like funky kong being contained in one game are causing black holes to apear around the universe.

And Caael whats joor FC? The lag against people on WoR is ridiculous.

Also, almost completed single player... its not to bad actually.

But seriously they changed the gameplay enough to make it annoying and not as fun as Melee, but somehow they managed to make it feel repetative.

I havent gone online yet, tbh I cant really be bothered because without voice chat, it's noting. I saw your suggestion of using 360 to chat, but the Wii is downstairs and cant be moved.

[Drizzy Drake]

...then move the 360.

[Legolastom]

No wai. But meh I have had a few laughs online, messing about.

Unlocked everyone yet Caael?

[Caael]

Not yet, i've only really played it with mates which was just messing about in 4 player brawl for ages. Havent done the subspace much at all.

[Legolastom]

Well I completed it an unlocked all the characters. "Toon" (Still dont know why they called him that rghh!) Link is PWNsome.

But its really fun calling Lanky a Jew online XD

[Laharl]

My brother got Brawl and have been playing most of the day.

An overwhelming meh is my thoughts

Controls are unresponsive
Camera zooms out too much
There's too much detail in the attacks and it just makes a cluster**** on screen
Final Smashes sucessfully ruin the game completely
Characters are horribly unbalanced; Ike was the only one who wasn't complete ***
A fair chunk of the stages were complete ****

as a melee veteran i found myself disappointed overall but still having fun

[TheEnglishman]

I've seen the adverts on TV. About a year ago this game looked amazing, and I seriously considered getting a Wii. Now I just think that it looks good, but not enough to get a Wii for.

[Legolastom]

*sigh* A year ago we all thought it looked amazing.

[TheEnglishman]

I can still remember how excited I was when the 'Warning: Newcomer approaching' banner popped up, especially when Sonic was announced.

[Legolastom]

I morning Ike was revealed I can still remember it, I woke up went on the dojo and there wasnt an update hmm... they were late before. Checked it every hour and was like "WTF? Where are the updates" when the newcommer banner was there I was just sitting on my chair thinking "Holy... ****".

And I also remember the doom I felt when I realized the "Prophets" rosters were coming true.

[TheEnglishman]

Good times...
Still it's not that the game was bad, just not as good as it was prophised to be.

[Blue]

The bad online ruined it. If Online was good, then It would still be awesome.

[Nosferatu]

Laharl, on Jun 29 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

My brother got Brawl and have been playing most of the day.

An overwhelming meh is my thoughts

Controls are unresponsive
Camera zooms out too much
There's too much detail in the attacks and it just makes a cluster**** on screen
Final Smashes sucessfully ruin the game completely
Characters are horribly unbalanced; Ike was the only one who wasn't complete ***
A fair chunk of the stages were complete ****

as a melee veteran i found myself disappointed overall but still having fun

Agreeing with Yahtzee. Got it.

[Drizzy Drake]

I finally watched a Yahtzee video today, and he's a funny muther****er. The review for Fable was hilarious. But back on topic...

Brawl is ****, or atleast ****ty compared to what it was hyped to be.

[Laharl]

Nosferatu, on Jun 30 2008, 12:09 AM, said:

Agreeing with Yahtzee. Got it.

Heres Yahtzee's review Nos

you'll have to point out the parts where he criticises the controls, and the final smashes, and the character unbalance, and the stages because i cant seem to find them.

If you could go fuck yourself whilst you're doing that, it'd be great :ph34r:

[Drizzy Drake]

Hehhe, you said fuck.

[Nosferatu]

Laharl, on Jun 29 2008, 04:18 PM, said:

Heres Yahtzee's review Nos

you'll have to point out the parts where he criticises the controls, and the final smashes, and the character unbalance, and the stages because i cant seem to find them.

If you could go fuck yourself whilst you're doing that, it'd be great :ph34r:

Yeah, I was being an asshole, dip****. I really don't care about your opinion.

[Laharl]

and i was making you look a twat for being an asshole, dip****. likewise :b

[Nosferatu]

You're trying to make ME look like a twat?
You missed the train a long time ago. I am a twat, so ****ing bite me.

Now, I have things worth my time to do. Perhaps I shall go take a dump.

[Drizzy Drake]

I CAN'T STAND ALL THIS FIGHTING!!!































Fuck Zepher. :ph34r:.

[Laharl]

Nosferatu, on Jun 30 2008, 01:05 AM, said:

Now, I have things worth my time to do. Perhaps I shall go contract cancer.

fixed

please do

congratulations on being the least interesting person to have a discussion/arguement with i have ever encountered. I cant think of any ways you could be anymore more of a pompous dick. Christ, i'd rather talk to Escout

[Nosferatu]

Laharl, on Jun 29 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

fixed

please do

congratulations on being the least interesting person to have a discussion/arguement with i have ever encountered. I cant think of any ways you could be anymore more of a pompous dick. Christ, i'd rather talk to Escout

1. I don't care for arguing. What's the point when in the end nobody gives a ****?
2. Mission accomplished.
3. What's wrong with Escout?

[Drizzy Drake]

*Random post explaining how either Laharl or Nos is an asshole, and the other is right.*

[Laharl]

Nosferatu, on Jun 30 2008, 01:17 AM, said:

1. I don't care for arguing. What's the point when in the end nobody gives a ****?

dont make wiseass comments then if you're not prepared to defend them >_>;;;

[Nosferatu]

Dude, we never even started arguing. All we did was insult. Anyway, seriously, what's wrong with Escout?

[Drizzy Drake]

WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!

Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight.

FALCON PUNCH!!!

[Nosferatu]

You aren't helping Dipsy.

[Someone Else]

How do you find the controls bad Laharl? They feel fine to me when my GC controller isn't being an idiot.

Then I switched over to Nunchuck + Wiimote and everything felt fine. =/

[Drizzy Drake]

Yeah, when playing on the GC controller, the controlles are fine. The Nunchuck + Wiimote controles were horrible though.

@ Nos-GIVE HIM AN UPPERCUT!!!!

[Someone Else]

Dipset, on Jun 29 2008, 05:38 PM, said:

The Nunchuck + Wiimote controles were horrible though.

I though so too at first, but if you give it time and use them, they're actually pretty good. Of course, if you have a GC controller there's no point in Nunchuck + Wiimote. I just use it because my GC controller is crap.

[Nosferatu]

I swear to your god I'm going to inject drugs into you. No death, just un-doing hard work.

[Drizzy Drake]

BODY BLOW!!!

[gsninja]

I stopped playing Brawl for the most part. Due to the plethora of new games I've gotten and am playing, namely FF Tactics A2 and Ninja Gaiden II, I'm just not really paying much attention to Brawl. Not only that, but I'm also starting more breeding projects in Pokemon.

Anyways, ZSS apparently has a new *probably* unescapable combo in which she DSmashes twice, uses Up + B, then repeats over and over until the opponent is at high percentages.

[Drizzy Drake]

It was bound to happen, but I didn't think it would take this long.

[Legolastom]

I agree with everything said on the last two pages. Apart from the "IF Brawl had good online then it would be good" comment.

[Toasty]

Wow. Reading the argument between Nos and Laharl made me feel way cooler than them. :o

I haven't touched SSBB in months, and even the thought of playing it with friends just doesn't seem like enough to get me to play it again. It just seemed like more of the same, I suppose. I made at least a dozen stages, though. Only one or two of them were half-assed.

Melee seems more refined than Brawl too. I don't like how the characters in Brawl start spasing out as you charge up a smash, or any of the extra sound effects that are thrown in. I agree with Laharl in that it seems to cluttered.

Not even close to be worth buying a Wii over, but I suppose if you like fighters and have never played Melee, this is well worth the money.

[Caael]

****ing bull****, how am I supposed to defeat 2 Armanks at the same ****ing time with awful characters? ROB? DK? Come on, that's impossible.

[Nosferatu]

Samus is the answer Caael. Samus is always the answer.

[Laharl]

Laharl, on Jun 29 2008, 08:09 PM, said:

Controls are unresponsive

Wind Dude, on Jun 30 2008, 01:36 AM, said:

How do you find the controls bad Laharl? They feel fine to me when my GC controller isn't being an idiot.

you can read right?

[Legolastom]

Caael, on Jun 30 2008, 08:08 AM, said:

****ing bull****, how am I supposed to defeat 2 Armanks at the same ****ing time with awful characters? ROB? DK? Come on, that's impossible.

Thats so easy >_>

[Blue]

Rob ok sucks, but donkey kong? Power your way through *****!

[gsninja]

Blue, on Jun 30 2008, 11:17 AM, said:

Rob ok sucks, but donkey kong? Power your way through *****!

ROB doesn't suck at all. He's better than most of the roster.

[Caael]

Nah, I beat it. Didnt realise that you could destroy the heads to make the green inside appear.

The Ridley fight was pathetic though, the only reason it was hard was because he was never bloody on screen. I had about 30% at the end of the fight, but only 10 seconds left due to him never being on screen.

[Nyktos]

Toasty, on Jun 30 2008, 02:33 AM, said:

Not even close to be worth buying a Wii over, but I suppose if you like fighters and have never played Melee, this is well worth the money.

In my opinion, Brawl (and the whole series) are more for people who don't like traditional fighters.

Also, what's with all the hate for the Wiimote+Nunchuk controller? I much prefer it to the GC controller (with small modifications).

[Someone Else]

Laharl, on Jun 30 2008, 12:39 AM, said:

you can read right?

Controls never seemed unresponsive to me. Sounds like you have bad reaction time or a bad controller, like me.

[Golden Legacy]

Nyktos, on Jun 30 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

In my opinion, Brawl (and the whole series) are more for people who don't like traditional fighters.

Also, what's with all the hate for the Wiimote+Nunchuk controller? I much prefer it to the GC controller (with small modifications).

Agreed on both points. I'll also add in that the Wiimote NES style is surprisingly streamlined and works well, the only downside being that long use can cramp up the hand.

[Blue]

You never fought me GL, I am sadden.

[Golden Legacy]

You chose to get educated when I wanted to play you, ya selfish @#$%.

[Blue]

Hey, you said you were going to be there when I got back! Your the cake lying bum!
xD

[Linear]

o3o I guess I still have fun since there's a lot of people I can play on wifi. Smiley face.

Note on the Rob comment, he's annoying (in a good way) once you get the general idea of him. x.x *Shudder*

[Blue]

I should give you gold to make me some of those emotiarts. Those are awesome.
I still want to whomp on GL. xD

[Golden Legacy]

Oh you'll womp me all right, I'm not particularly good. Still haven't decided on a control scheme much less a specific character. I rotate constantly, as Lin and Toasty can attest to.

[Blue]

Don't worry I do too. I don't use Yoshi until I'm ready to be more serious. Linny knows, she freaking murder me when I was Mario and Sonic.

[Toasty]

Nyktos, on Jun 30 2008, 03:12 PM, said:

In my opinion, Brawl (and the whole series) are more for people who don't like traditional fighters.

I'd much rather play a SSB game than a traditional fighter. Believe me. I just got bored of Brawl pretty quickly. Seems to happen to me with most games nowadays.

[Blue]

I happen to like Soul Calibur and Capcom vs. Marvel 2

[Linear]

Golden Legacy, on Jun 30 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Oh you'll womp me all right, I'm not particularly good. Still haven't decided on a control scheme much less a specific character. I rotate constantly, as Lin and Toasty can attest to.

Blue, on Jun 30 2008, 07:47 PM, said:

Don't worry I do too. I don't use Yoshi until I'm ready to be more serious. Linny knows, she freaking murder me when I was Mario and Sonic.

o3o; Gosh...I didn't know I had such an effect on you guys? Lol, Blue. Did you know there's some guild on gaia composed of only 35 ~ 40 Gaia Smashers called the Elites (the name is going to be changed)? One for each character, and the others are random. (Meaning they have a variety) O,O They're really scary (the random ones).

Emoticonart...hm... 8D

[Laharl]

Wind Dude, on Jul 1 2008, 12:35 AM, said:

Controls never seemed unresponsive to me. Sounds like you have bad reaction time or a bad controller, like me.

i've played melee for 6 years, so yeah my reaction timer is appauling :/

i played with pads of varying quality, but even with the fully working ones its not as responsive as melee

[My Best Wishes]

I'm thinking about picking this up again since it's finally PAL released. And because it's finally PAL my copy might find other people to actually random against.
We still doing the GSS SSBB comp?

Can people also update the Brawl Code topic as well?

Laharl, on Jun 30 2008, 09:18 AM, said:

Heres Yahtzee's review Nos

you'll have to point out the parts where he criticises the controls, and the final smashes, and the character unbalance, and the stages because i cant seem to find them.

If you could go fuck yourself whilst you're doing that, it'd be great :o

Bad controls - 1:18 to 1:25
Camera, Attacks - 1:25 to about 1:32

I saw that review enough times to notice the similarity to you and Yahztee. As did Nos.

[Laharl]

"even if we had our PhDs in wavebird *****slapping"

hardly a comment on unresponsive controls.

newsflash Captain Literate, i made no denial that Yahtzee comments on the camera and special attacks.

seriously learn to ****ing read before trying to pull a Split

just because i share some his views, it doesnt make my opinion a carbon copy

[Neon]

Finally released in Australia last thursday. gg Nintendo Australia, fail less please.

[gsninja]

Meh, I just suck hard at Brawl now. I took too long of a break from playing it and I just don't do well against others as I used to.

I still wish Sheik's aerial game didn't get nerfed as much as it was. Seriously, her only aerial with any somewhat decent power is her BAir.

[Golden Legacy]

watch, on Jul 1 2008, 04:47 AM, said:

We still doing the GSS SSBB comp?

It's coming, I promise you it is. I just got held up with things at home, but registration should be ready by the end of this week.

[My Best Wishes]

Laharl, on Jul 1 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

"even if we had our PhDs in wavebird *****slapping"

hardly a comment on unresponsive controls.

newsflash Captain Literate, i made no denial that Yahtzee comments on the camera and special attacks.

seriously learn to ****ing read before trying to pull a Split

just because i share some his views, it doesnt make my opinion a carbon copy

Please Laharl, I don't ever need to 'try to pull a Split'
I knew that my post would be met like this, but it was just too good. Next time front up when someone picks you up on something.
By the way, you do know I don't actually have anything on you, your posts against Nos just reminded me so much of someone.

Still can't get on Wi-fi and SSBB is in PAL regions now. Ideas?

[Toasty]

The LAN adapter?

[My Best Wishes]

I can connect fine to the internet as well as play all other games fine online, but Brawl never ever is able to find me someone to battle in random play.
Lan Adapter??

[Toasty]

Oh. I thought your wifi wasn't working.

No no, that happens to me a lot too. It goes to show how much Nintendo's server infrastructure sucks. It doesn't have the horsepower to support all the requests for random matches, so it can take a while sometimes most of the time.

[Laharl]

watch, on Jul 2 2008, 03:55 AM, said:

Please Laharl, I don't ever need to 'try to pull a Split'
I knew that my post would be met like this, but it was just too good. Next time front up when someone picks you up on something.

none of you seem to realise i've had this mindset on gaming for years, long before Zero Punctuation

[Legolastom]

Are you lot seriously trying to get a 1-up on Laharl so much that your arguing with him because he shares one or two views on a game with someone else? >_>

[My Best Wishes]

I'm not trying to get 1-up on anyone, I don't have issues with anyone on this board anymore. Some of Laharls personality just remind me of someone I know.

Finally got some online games. Played about 20 in the last day. Man do I suck.

[Golden Legacy]

So apparently development time was actually limited for Brawl.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/...cle.php?id=4964

[Laharl]

How is 6 years a strict time limit?

Sakurai is just trying to worm his way out of the landfill of shyte he dug for himself

[Caael]

Wtf is up with Subspace, even on the easiest difficulty enemies do like 10% per hit, and if theres about 5 swarming you that you cant get away from (Floow), you're pretty much ****ed.

[Drizzy Drake]

You just suck at Brawl.

[Golden Legacy]

Caael, what difficulty are you playing on?

Laharl, on Jul 4 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

How is 6 years a strict time limit?

When Iwata first mentioned a Smash Bros. game for the "Revolution" (now called Wii) at E3 2005, there was no such game yet. No team, nothing. Sakurai didn't even know that Nintendo was thinking about a new Smash game, that was the first time he had heard about it.

Iwata approached him later that day and asked if he would be willing to resume his role as director. Sakurai agreed, and a studio/team was put together.

Game concept and development began October 2005.

[Laharl]

okay, how is 3 years too strict a time limit?

oh i know, by sitting on your arse all day and then remembering you have to make a game with 10 months left

[Drizzy Drake]

Such hate. You know that leads to the darkside right?

[Golden Legacy]

Game development isn't something that you work on the moment your studio is ready. It's not a "okay, time to make Brawl, everyone GO!"

There's a lot of planning that goes into it, a lot of analysis that plots out the progress of the game's development. The conceptual stage where ideas are being refined and carried out to see if they're viable. For a game as massive as Brawl, it's a huge process to go through, much less actually beginning the programming and debugging.

[Laharl]

with a company as big as nintendo, you'd expect them to have that covered, guess not.

Simply put, the Brawl development was a shambles

[Golden Legacy]

It was under the direction of Sakurai. Remember, Nintendo publishes the game but it's Sakurai and his team that actually created and developed the game.

[TheEnglishman]

Golden Legacy, on Jul 4 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

When Iwata first mentioned a Smash Bros. game for the "Revolution" (now called Wii) at E3 2005, there was no such game yet. No team, nothing. Sakurai didn't even know that Nintendo was thinking about a new Smash game, that was the first time he had heard about it.

Sounds like terrible organisation to me. Announcing a new game without even asking the guy you want to make it is poor.